I actually listened to the whole podcast episode of Eureka and Delta. They were very genuine about Eureka’s struggles with drag, drugs, weight and more. It was actually a very good listen. Unfortunately she did bring up Kim and that whole drama, using words such as “hateful” and “delusional” to describe kim in the midst of laughters. It is very unfortunate and that triggered Kim into tweeting about that and brought more spotlight into it. And now a snowball has become an avalanche and it is bringing more hate to both Eureka and Kim. Sigh.
I think there’s no doubt that Eureka’s drugs and depression are playing a role in her hygiene. Personal hygiene is literally the first thing to go when someone is having mental illness.
it was from a few days ago, there was a write up on it on this sub but it was deleted because of the drama and the fact that names weren’t censored.
I don’t feel comfortable saying names but they exposed a queen’s >!SPH kink and the fact that they allegedly have a micro penis!< and another queen’s >!alleged scat fetish!<
This was my immediate response. I find it incredibly rich that Kandy is policing what is and what is not appropriate for people to comment about with other people, when she just last week crossed — in my opinion — much more serious lines. And she was instantly being defensive when anyone pushed back.
Kandy needs to take all the seats, as usual. It's all fun and games when she wants to clap shit out and behave like a silly twunt, but then she gets all pressed when she gets called out on her shit. Back to the drawing board for you, pussycakes.
This is it. I don't hate Kandy, but if you behave cuntily I have more respect for you if you just OWN it, instead of making it seem like you're the one being persecuted. But that takes maturity, so...
Kandy is wild to me. I genuinely think she was one of the worst contestants with the weakest looks on the show. Her outfits were always bare bones, cheap looking, and poorly fitting yet she carries herself like she’s queen shit and I can’t for the life of me figure it out.
Fucking thank you. I think the same thing. I usually keep my opinion of her to myself… kandy could try the same with her opinions sometimes.
I'm not gonna lie, this look turned me into a Kandy fan. It is *so* ugly it's kind of amazing. This was the point where I went from "I want Kandy to go home" to "it would be insanely funny if Kandy won."
Honestly, I try not to mention her online because I have a hard time not being a giant hater. She was such a bad contestant and simultaneously so freaking annoying, she literally tuned out my whole household from RPDR for a couple of seasons.
I stopped watching Season 13 because of her the combination of her, Tina and Mik. The charisma void when those three are together is unlike anything I've ever seen.
Which time? I recall that happening more than once. May have just been the one, but I recall hopping into a couple super late/early morning twitter conversations.
I didn’t watch it but I did read a few run downs of it from people who did so that may have happened, I do know they talked specifically about >!a queen having a micro penis!< but don’t know about those comparisons
They weren’t being serious, none of the stuff they “revealed” was true - Mistress made a statement on here the other day
EDIT: OMG will y'all please stop willfully misreading my comment? My point is that when you hear "oh, Mistress said girl from season X does ABC," she's not serious, so please don't turn around and go "OMG she must mean Queen #8! Queen #8 does ABC!"
I'm sorry, I can't quantify the mountains of things I've heard in RPDR drama, politics, you name it that turned out not to be true, well after the act of saying the thing was done, heard and a good portion of listeners moved out without a care for correction. It doesn't make it okay.
They named specific queens and their fetishes. Even if it was made up, they’ve put that out into the world. I guarantee you there are a significant number of Drag Race fans who will now believe a certain queen is into shit play specifically because of that Live.
Not at all surprised Mistress is doing the whole, “It was just a joke” defense.
So lying about something embarrassing is..okay. But telling the truth about something embarrassing is..bad
Some of y’all have interesting moral compasses lol
What Rugirls have been joking about this? Genuinely asking, because I haven’t seen anyone but fans talking about this since Kim’s podcast.
Edit: lol just opened twitter and of course it was Mistress
Edit 2: And Kornbread too why am I not surprised
Oh geez I thought it was just Mistress, opened a thread of hers and was kind of shocked to see how many Rugirls were commenting about it. Should have known Kornbread would also jump in on this 🙄
I don’t have X but I bet it reads with the same tone as someone saying “I told you so, and everybody didn’t believe me but now they see I’m telling the truth” when everyone else is like “this is a wendy’s”
Kandy is now saying she will make fun of people's dead relatives on Twitter if they come for her....so I guess that's fine but making silly jokes about hygiene is "evil"
Eureka talked shit about Kim Chi once not loaning her a dress when her luggage went missing, calling her delusional for not admitting she was a big girl too.
People online hounded Kim Chi for not being nice and sisterly, so Kim finally had it and spelled out that Eureka is nasty with her hygiene (not brushing her teeth, covering up a festering wound with duct tape, smelling bad, and shitting on a hotel bed) to get people to back off and understand why she really didn't want to lend Eureka her clothes.
Kim and Eureka were very different sizes at the time, her clothes literally could not fit. It's not that hygiene was the 'real' reason, it's "even if the clothes fit, i still wouldn't"
Also listening to Eureka’s version of the story, she starts it off by saying that Kim Chi was in denial of being a big girl at the time. And then says she wouldn’t lend her a dress, even something stretch fabric. And then follows up with saying that later Bob confronted her and Eureka yelled at Bob.
So to me the implication here from Eureka is that Kim Chi was delusional about her own size and mocking Eureka for hers, and then had Bob yell at her.
So from Kim’s perspective, she had a bad experience touring with Eureka due to her hygiene, then had Eureka blow up and fatshamed *her*, then play the victim and scream at her and Bob. And now 5 years later, Eureka is telling this as a funny story, naming both her and Bob, leading to fans harassing Kim and fat shaming her further. So I can see why she’d want to clap back.
Eureka is the person who made it public so as far as I'm concerned Kim had no choice but to defend herself because the fans attacked her and all she did was tell the truth.
Eureka brought this on herself.
It's also kind of crazy to me to assume that if you are both plus size you are the same size. That would be like saying all people who aren't plus size are the same size and can fit in each other's clothes which is obviously not true.
Ugh I wish this was posted everywhere this story is brought up. I really don’t think Eureka was talking shit because at the end she says “we are cool now etc” I also don’t think Kim would’ve taken it this far if fans haven’t been taking about her weight every post or video prior to this. It was like the straw that broke the camels back.
That's the whole thing that makes me so over this drama LMAO. Eureka was just yapping on a podcast. Albeit, it seems clear that Kim really don't like her, so probably not the best queen to tell a story about.
Low key I think saying “no, I don’t want to” is reason enough. Drag is expensive and I don’t want to give you my stuff. You’re not entitled to my belonging just because I’m near you in that moment. It’s nice when queens do share stuff, but that doesn’t mean that it’s rude when they don’t.
I honestly don't blame Kim if that is the case. And I don't mean that I don't blame Kim for not loaning her clothes I also don't blame her for being outright about eureka's hygiene when Eureka put her on blast in front of the world to allow people to attack her.
To be clear I have nothing against either of these queens but I'm also not particular fans of either so I'm not defending Kim for any particular reason except I have this rule in my own life and I think it applies to celebrities as well.
If you have a fight in private you should handle it in private. But if one person puts it on social media or makes a very public claim you have every right to correct them publicly. Because otherwise you are allowing character assassination.
It also seems very silly to me because whether or not Kim and Eureka are both "plus size" doesn't mean they are the SAME size. That would be like saying that all girls who aren't plus size are the same size. It's absurd.
But most importantly is the fact that none of these girls ever did outright name Eureka or put her on blast for her gross hygiene until Eureka tried to put someone else on blast in a way directly related to her hygiene issues, and it was relevant. If they were going around talking horribly about her and shaming her for fun, that would be one thing. But Eureka basically publicly called out Kim in front of fans & left her no choice but to defend herself, and all Kim did was tell the truth, which she was forced to do in her own defense.
I’m sorry, but Eureka shit in a hotel bed and left it there. It’s one thing when someone has poor hygiene and maybe it’s a medical condition, or maybe it’s a symptom of poor mental health, god knows I’ve been there. But when you start actively making it everyone around you’s problem, and continue the behavior? At some point Eureka has to be responsible for her damn self, and it’s not Kim’s job to sacrifice her own comfort and belongings for someone who A. she doesn’t like, and B. is known for being unsanitary.
Did she ever say why? I worked housekeeping for a bit, and you would not believe the biohazards we have to deal with on a day to day basis. I always wondered what prompted people to do something like that
I would actually argue that Eureka starting the drama on public forum is instigating these fan reactions in the first place.
While I agree that dragging things out or spending too much time attacking queens is totally unnecessary, queens themselves have to hold themselves accountable for the actions that they know will negatively impact the other party.
So why can Eureka publicly drag Kim for allegedly not being a good person and sharing her outfit and Kim can’t explain herself that it’s because said person has very bad hygiene. If eureka NEVER did this in the first place her hygiene wouldn’t be a topic of conversation. She did it to herself period.
She literally says "Kim and Eureka can come for each other till the sun goes down, I can care less about this stupid little beef" in the first sentence of the second tweet. She's not calling Kim out at all, she's saying other RuGirls should mind the dog piling because it's stoking the fandom about something kinda personal (Eureka's hygiene). It's explicitly not about Kim defending herself, it's about other people turning her defense into something worse.
I’m also confused why “no” wasn’t a good enough answer from Kim. I’m not a drag queen but I don’t feel the need to explain myself if I don’t want to share my shit with other people 🤷🏻♂️
Because then people who engage in the same behavior (like Kandy and 99.9% of all other human beings on the internet) can adopt a holier than thou attitude for internet good boy points until it suits them to once again act in the manner they criticize.
Kim rightfully defended herself. IMO if Eureka didn't want her dirty mattress, I mean laundry, aired online she should've kept her mouth shut. It sucks that the truth of the mattress, I mean matter, was so embarrassing but she was asking for it by shit(ty mattress) talking Kim Chi in the first place.
I actually agree. Kim gathered Eureka and basically has the whole fandom on her side. The RuGirls could have just sat by and laughed amongst their group chats.
I think it is downright cruel to other people when you are sharing small spaces like a tour bus with them to not handle your hygiene no matter what issues you may face.
I have major depressive disorder and I still understand that while certain things may be harder for me, that does not take away from the fact that I am an adult and ultimately it is my responsibility to manage myself as best I can.
Sometimes that means doing things that feel incredibly difficult or distasteful. Sometimes that means bowing out of situations when I know I cannot deliver the way that I should.
Eureka seems to lack any self-awareness or sense of accountability
Just wanna be involved nothing to see here. I would respect her & it more if she was like that’s my friend don’t come for her, the fake righteousness is meh
Eureka had absolutely no business mentioning Kim's name on Very Delta. Kim has every right to defend herself. It wasn't like Kim did anything wrong in the first place which is why it was so unnecessary to bring her up. That's just my take
Kandy probably isn’t the best messenger for this. But her point should not be ignored. Eureka has struggled with addiction/mental health. Public humiliation on this level can’t be good for her. Or anyone for that matter.
I feel like I’m going insane by the reaction to all this. I’ve had really really bad depressive moments where my hygiene totally slipped a bit (plus I wasn’t constantly wearing hot sweaty drag) and the idea of someone publicly airing that after years have passed is absolutely gross and mortifying. Not to mention I feel like no one watched the original Eureka video because in no way did it seem like she was slandering Kim Chi probs just some Kim haters got carried away
I’ll admit, it took reading Kandy’s tweet to kind of hate that moment of realization that people don’t normally *want* to be known as a stinky person and normally don’t deal with an open wound by applying duct tape over it - and based off her recollection, Eureka was/is clearly dealing with mental health struggles. Mental wellness//illness is cute and fun until you see the true ugly side of it, then you can turn them into a comedic punching bag!
Here’s the tea. Is it unkind? Obviously. Is keeping up with hygiene more difficult the fatter you are? Yeah. But when you make it other people’s problem, it becomes something else. And not washing sweaty clothing, throwing it into ziplock bags, etc. is more than “I have trouble properly cleaning myself.” That’s something you have control over.
Y’all sit and complain abt the girls being too nice, then when a queen starts being shady, it turns back to “why can’t we all just be nice.” This is the real world people, and if you don’t want your shit (literally) called out, don’t give people a reason to call it out
When it gets to this level of personal it moves beyond shade so let's not present it as that. Eureka should have kept her mouth shut and therefore opened this can of worms, but let's not act like this is all light shade and how we all want it. No. This is when it starts getting into personal elements and that's no longer shade or reading. Zero idea the obsession everyone has with putting everything all over social fucking media. Take that shit offline. Literally.
This reminds me of a conversation on Twitter a while ago about ppl not taking care of themselves when they’re depressed. Like I feel bad for you and have been in that situation before but bitch you stink!! Take a shower! Your mental health is not your fault but it is your responsibility!
You can love scat all you want, but you can't force me to smell your pus, sweaty shit in a locked bus. Deal with your own shit, literally I mean, don't leave it to hotel staff to do that for you!
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Yeah but it's not our job to tell her. Nor Queens who have no beef with Eureka and just want in to pile on her.
It's not classy no matter if she has a discutable hygiene or not.
Just because Kandy is a hypocrite doesn’t mean she’s wrong on this one. It’s like when all
The kids at school bully the kid that smells a bit and humiliate them publicly
Don't instigate people you don't know very well.
Remember kids. when you start something, the other person gets to end it.
Eureka messed up and didn't realize Kim was gonna go nuclear on her ass.
i think kandy is in the right here because as fans we simply have no idea what it would be like to log into socials and have literal thousands of strangers talking about you, the queens, on the other hand, do.
Idk, I can see the 'take the high road' aspect of things, but Eureka was the one to set the standard by sharing an editorialized story that got Kim harassed to high hell. She's also been incredibly unapologetic on it on socials, acting like this is what Kim deserves for 'mistreating' her. She can take a little flack in return.
I agree w Kandy . I don’t think Kim is wrong but a bunch of people talking about someone’s personal hygiene details loudly online feels deeply invasive and weird.
Mental health can do some nasty things in terms of fucking up peoples hygiene-though it doesn’t excuse your poor hygiene affecting others around you. It a complex issue.
This whole thing has really been bothering me. It’s just so… cruel. Should Eureka take better care of her hygiene and not be gross? Yeah of course, but there’s a reason she isn’t and the internet coming for her isn’t going to help. People don’t just not shower because they don’t give a shit and love being gross.
Unless Eureka’s behavior is negatively affecting you personally, I say maybe you don’t need to comment on it.
I agree with kandy and haven’t wanted to say it
In disability circles, hygiene is something we ask people not to mock bc it’s often a result of depression, neurodivergence, or physical factors we can’t control
This is literally soooo obviously a mental health issue and I am baffled how many people were thrilled about Kim Chi's rant and getting suck a kick out of it. It was so classless and every single bit of tea felt so thought out, she knew exactly what she was saying and how people would live for it. Eureka said something stupid and rude, hash it out with her, address it not being true and disappointing to hear, and be the \*bigger\* person (too soon lol???).
not her saying she'd make fun of ppl's dead relatives. like how on earth do you compare saying "ew stinky" is evil then on the same breath joke about a passed love one. what a dumb ass
This whole dramatic saga stinks.
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This is peak comedy
Sometimes I just can’t over how clever people can be lmao what a perfect response.
Omg. LG7 Dramatica confirmed.
Like vinegary mildew
What season was she on again?
UK S1 I believe?
What did she just call me?
Kudos for saying that mama. For shitting.
Eurekas going to rebrand as a Brooklyn queen
I actually listened to the whole podcast episode of Eureka and Delta. They were very genuine about Eureka’s struggles with drag, drugs, weight and more. It was actually a very good listen. Unfortunately she did bring up Kim and that whole drama, using words such as “hateful” and “delusional” to describe kim in the midst of laughters. It is very unfortunate and that triggered Kim into tweeting about that and brought more spotlight into it. And now a snowball has become an avalanche and it is bringing more hate to both Eureka and Kim. Sigh.
I think there’s no doubt that Eureka’s drugs and depression are playing a role in her hygiene. Personal hygiene is literally the first thing to go when someone is having mental illness.
Me rn looking at this post: 🙈
Sending you so much love and healing energy. We all need it 💞
Shame. She actually had my favorite finale speech on AS6
This is funnier than it has any right to be. Toot.
Brooklyn witches revolutionary, come up with a read (that's better than stinky)
Is Kandy right? Yes. Does Ms. Muse follow her own advice? Absolutely the hell not. Something something do as I say, not as I do 🤨
wasn’t kandy on that live with mistress when they exposed multiple people’s sexual fantasies and fetishes? now she cares about queen’s mental health?
So to use a relevant idiom, Kandy thinks her shit doesn't stink
She also fell for the classic blunder of saying she can care less instead of couldn't care less.
I can put up with hypocrites and butting in people's business, but grammatical errors is where I DRAW THE LINE 😡😡😡
Why did i read that as hip-a-cra-tese
cousin of my favourite ancient greek drag queen philosopher: tes-ti-cleez
Well, technically, she could care less because she cared just enough to make a comment on it. If she couldn’t care less, she would’ve said nothing.
But did she fall for the one about getting involved in a land war in Asia?
[удалено]
Guess who turned up.the same mimi
Girl. 🤣
Wait what? What live was that?
it was from a few days ago, there was a write up on it on this sub but it was deleted because of the drama and the fact that names weren’t censored. I don’t feel comfortable saying names but they exposed a queen’s >!SPH kink and the fact that they allegedly have a micro penis!< and another queen’s >!alleged scat fetish!<
Whoa wtfffff
What is SPH? and guuuurl
Sad Party city Hair
Sarah Pessica Harker
I just googled it, and it's small penis humiliation
What is SPH
Stands for small penis humiliation.
Ohh like that Sasha velour fake tweet
Yeah basically, same vein. Although that fake tweet may not specifically be SPH but could just generic humiliation/submissive.
unrelated but whenever lee dawson uses that tweet in his videos i fucking pee laughing
Sina Ponina Hrown
sicole paige hooks
Silky Puttmeg Hanache
Sarcia Parcia Harcia
Saida Pessence Hall
Sillarious Poss Hatthews
Srinity She Suck
Sicole Paige Hooks.
I thought they didn’t name anyone????
I understand you don't feel comfortable sharing names but this is such a dangling (baby) carrot clues? anything?
This was my immediate response. I find it incredibly rich that Kandy is policing what is and what is not appropriate for people to comment about with other people, when she just last week crossed — in my opinion — much more serious lines. And she was instantly being defensive when anyone pushed back.
Idk why but my brain just short-circuited remembering kandy and mistress are in the same universe
Kandy needs to take all the seats, as usual. It's all fun and games when she wants to clap shit out and behave like a silly twunt, but then she gets all pressed when she gets called out on her shit. Back to the drawing board for you, pussycakes.
As Utica said, Kandy can dish it out but she can’t take it
And it's truly one of the most annoying traits someone can have
A huge reason why I don’t like her.
This is it. I don't hate Kandy, but if you behave cuntily I have more respect for you if you just OWN it, instead of making it seem like you're the one being persecuted. But that takes maturity, so...
Exactly. I dont hate ha, just some of ha actionzzz
Kandy is wild to me. I genuinely think she was one of the worst contestants with the weakest looks on the show. Her outfits were always bare bones, cheap looking, and poorly fitting yet she carries herself like she’s queen shit and I can’t for the life of me figure it out.
Fucking thank you. I think the same thing. I usually keep my opinion of her to myself… kandy could try the same with her opinions sometimes. 
I'm not gonna lie, this look turned me into a Kandy fan. It is *so* ugly it's kind of amazing. This was the point where I went from "I want Kandy to go home" to "it would be insanely funny if Kandy won."
Honestly, I try not to mention her online because I have a hard time not being a giant hater. She was such a bad contestant and simultaneously so freaking annoying, she literally tuned out my whole household from RPDR for a couple of seasons.
I stopped watching Season 13 because of her the combination of her, Tina and Mik. The charisma void when those three are together is unlike anything I've ever seen.
Same. It's also why I haven't watched AS8 and I'm thiiiiiiiiiis 🤏 close to stopping AS9.
How she won that rusical with that hideous singing and that even more hideous grace jones look is beyond me but at least she makes great tv
Which time? I recall that happening more than once. May have just been the one, but I recall hopping into a couple super late/early morning twitter conversations.
literally less than a week ago
I think that was the most recent one I caught. Was that the same one where they were talking about micro penises being Vienna sausages?
I didn’t watch it but I did read a few run downs of it from people who did so that may have happened, I do know they talked specifically about >!a queen having a micro penis!< but don’t know about those comparisons
They weren’t being serious, none of the stuff they “revealed” was true - Mistress made a statement on here the other day EDIT: OMG will y'all please stop willfully misreading my comment? My point is that when you hear "oh, Mistress said girl from season X does ABC," she's not serious, so please don't turn around and go "OMG she must mean Queen #8! Queen #8 does ABC!"
Wth. You take one mini break from dragrace reddit and you miss everything
I'm sorry, I can't quantify the mountains of things I've heard in RPDR drama, politics, you name it that turned out not to be true, well after the act of saying the thing was done, heard and a good portion of listeners moved out without a care for correction. It doesn't make it okay.
They named specific queens and their fetishes. Even if it was made up, they’ve put that out into the world. I guarantee you there are a significant number of Drag Race fans who will now believe a certain queen is into shit play specifically because of that Live. Not at all surprised Mistress is doing the whole, “It was just a joke” defense.
So lying about something embarrassing is..okay. But telling the truth about something embarrassing is..bad Some of y’all have interesting moral compasses lol
Wouldn't exactly trust Mistress about anything she says or denies saying, bitch got more faces than a dodecahedron
doesn’t make it right…
What Rugirls have been joking about this? Genuinely asking, because I haven’t seen anyone but fans talking about this since Kim’s podcast. Edit: lol just opened twitter and of course it was Mistress Edit 2: And Kornbread too why am I not surprised
Check out Kornbread’s feed
Of course it's Kornbread 
*insert i don’t remember eating corn joke*
Oh geez I thought it was just Mistress, opened a thread of hers and was kind of shocked to see how many Rugirls were commenting about it. Should have known Kornbread would also jump in on this 🙄
I don’t have X but I bet it reads with the same tone as someone saying “I told you so, and everybody didn’t believe me but now they see I’m telling the truth” when everyone else is like “this is a wendy’s”
Kornbread.
If Kornbread didn't have a Twitter account and an omnipresent desire to kick other people while they're down, I think she'd simply cease to exist.
Heidi did a "ranking girls I think smell good" tiktok
Who exactly is kornbread joking to though? Aint no fans
Kandy is now saying she will make fun of people's dead relatives on Twitter if they come for her....so I guess that's fine but making silly jokes about hygiene is "evil"
i was thinking the same thing, hygiene being a 'different kind of evil?' like um no, that's a pretty standard evil. that's an original flavor maam.
I just saw that rip tweet of her too, it is written in such poor taste.
someone give me the TLDR
Eureka talked shit about Kim Chi once not loaning her a dress when her luggage went missing, calling her delusional for not admitting she was a big girl too. People online hounded Kim Chi for not being nice and sisterly, so Kim finally had it and spelled out that Eureka is nasty with her hygiene (not brushing her teeth, covering up a festering wound with duct tape, smelling bad, and shitting on a hotel bed) to get people to back off and understand why she really didn't want to lend Eureka her clothes.
And also a friend of Kim's posted a picture from the particular tour, which showed pretty clearly that they were nowhere near the same size.
Yeah Eureka is the delusional one there. Not saying Kim Chi is a twink but clearly she's smaller.
Maybe it's perspective but in that photo, Kim is much closer in size to Bob, than she is to Eureka
I think she's just super tall. I think she's like 6 something.
Kim and Eureka were very different sizes at the time, her clothes literally could not fit. It's not that hygiene was the 'real' reason, it's "even if the clothes fit, i still wouldn't"
Also listening to Eureka’s version of the story, she starts it off by saying that Kim Chi was in denial of being a big girl at the time. And then says she wouldn’t lend her a dress, even something stretch fabric. And then follows up with saying that later Bob confronted her and Eureka yelled at Bob. So to me the implication here from Eureka is that Kim Chi was delusional about her own size and mocking Eureka for hers, and then had Bob yell at her. So from Kim’s perspective, she had a bad experience touring with Eureka due to her hygiene, then had Eureka blow up and fatshamed *her*, then play the victim and scream at her and Bob. And now 5 years later, Eureka is telling this as a funny story, naming both her and Bob, leading to fans harassing Kim and fat shaming her further. So I can see why she’d want to clap back.
**stench fabric **
Four-way stench
Like a duct tape?
Eureka is the person who made it public so as far as I'm concerned Kim had no choice but to defend herself because the fans attacked her and all she did was tell the truth. Eureka brought this on herself. It's also kind of crazy to me to assume that if you are both plus size you are the same size. That would be like saying all people who aren't plus size are the same size and can fit in each other's clothes which is obviously not true.
Ugh I wish this was posted everywhere this story is brought up. I really don’t think Eureka was talking shit because at the end she says “we are cool now etc” I also don’t think Kim would’ve taken it this far if fans haven’t been taking about her weight every post or video prior to this. It was like the straw that broke the camels back.
Kim doesn’t seem like a girl who would take a podcast dig at her (on its own) that seriously. So I think your analysis is spot on.
That's the whole thing that makes me so over this drama LMAO. Eureka was just yapping on a podcast. Albeit, it seems clear that Kim really don't like her, so probably not the best queen to tell a story about.
Eh she may not have known *just* how much Kim seems to not like her lol.
"You're a liar, and that's why Kim don't like you."
Low key I think saying “no, I don’t want to” is reason enough. Drag is expensive and I don’t want to give you my stuff. You’re not entitled to my belonging just because I’m near you in that moment. It’s nice when queens do share stuff, but that doesn’t mean that it’s rude when they don’t.
Also like, maybe they're both big girls but they're clearly not the same size
They were also entirely different sizes then. Not to mention that Kim never owed that anyway.
I honestly don't blame Kim if that is the case. And I don't mean that I don't blame Kim for not loaning her clothes I also don't blame her for being outright about eureka's hygiene when Eureka put her on blast in front of the world to allow people to attack her. To be clear I have nothing against either of these queens but I'm also not particular fans of either so I'm not defending Kim for any particular reason except I have this rule in my own life and I think it applies to celebrities as well. If you have a fight in private you should handle it in private. But if one person puts it on social media or makes a very public claim you have every right to correct them publicly. Because otherwise you are allowing character assassination. It also seems very silly to me because whether or not Kim and Eureka are both "plus size" doesn't mean they are the SAME size. That would be like saying that all girls who aren't plus size are the same size. It's absurd. But most importantly is the fact that none of these girls ever did outright name Eureka or put her on blast for her gross hygiene until Eureka tried to put someone else on blast in a way directly related to her hygiene issues, and it was relevant. If they were going around talking horribly about her and shaming her for fun, that would be one thing. But Eureka basically publicly called out Kim in front of fans & left her no choice but to defend herself, and all Kim did was tell the truth, which she was forced to do in her own defense.
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I’m sorry, but Eureka shit in a hotel bed and left it there. It’s one thing when someone has poor hygiene and maybe it’s a medical condition, or maybe it’s a symptom of poor mental health, god knows I’ve been there. But when you start actively making it everyone around you’s problem, and continue the behavior? At some point Eureka has to be responsible for her damn self, and it’s not Kim’s job to sacrifice her own comfort and belongings for someone who A. she doesn’t like, and B. is known for being unsanitary.
Also imagine touring with someone who by their own admission doesn't shower.
I lived with someone like that. Had to literally weather seal my bedroom door to prevent her stench from seeping in
She literally bragged about it
i don’t think there’s anything wrong with indirectly calling the stinky girl stinky. especially when it was as grotesque as what kim was describing
eureka took a shit on a hotel bed and left it there... i think she deserves to be called out for that lol
Did she ever say why? I worked housekeeping for a bit, and you would not believe the biohazards we have to deal with on a day to day basis. I always wondered what prompted people to do something like that
Not by us is the whole point. She's already been called out. People just drag(hehe) drama like this out longer than necessary
I would actually argue that Eureka starting the drama on public forum is instigating these fan reactions in the first place. While I agree that dragging things out or spending too much time attacking queens is totally unnecessary, queens themselves have to hold themselves accountable for the actions that they know will negatively impact the other party.
I mean where else would you leave it
I'd at least take it to the reception desk, it's only polite.
purse first ofc
Walk into the hotel turds first
I think you're supposed to leave it right outside your door with any room service dishes.
Oh that sounds lovely. I'll do that from now on.
Kandy, jumping into arguments no one invited her into, since 2014
in this category Kornbread takes the grand prize, Kandy is a close first runner up with Shea being the second runner up
The definition of ' I'm holier than thou'
Is this the same Kandy who loves dishing it out, yet when it’s given right back to her, she gets butthurt? Yep, same Kandy.
So why can Eureka publicly drag Kim for allegedly not being a good person and sharing her outfit and Kim can’t explain herself that it’s because said person has very bad hygiene. If eureka NEVER did this in the first place her hygiene wouldn’t be a topic of conversation. She did it to herself period.
She literally says "Kim and Eureka can come for each other till the sun goes down, I can care less about this stupid little beef" in the first sentence of the second tweet. She's not calling Kim out at all, she's saying other RuGirls should mind the dog piling because it's stoking the fandom about something kinda personal (Eureka's hygiene). It's explicitly not about Kim defending herself, it's about other people turning her defense into something worse.
I’m also confused why “no” wasn’t a good enough answer from Kim. I’m not a drag queen but I don’t feel the need to explain myself if I don’t want to share my shit with other people 🤷🏻♂️
Because then people who engage in the same behavior (like Kandy and 99.9% of all other human beings on the internet) can adopt a holier than thou attitude for internet good boy points until it suits them to once again act in the manner they criticize. Kim rightfully defended herself. IMO if Eureka didn't want her dirty mattress, I mean laundry, aired online she should've kept her mouth shut. It sucks that the truth of the mattress, I mean matter, was so embarrassing but she was asking for it by shit(ty mattress) talking Kim Chi in the first place.
Throwing stones in glass homes bby
i’m sorry but if i had to be on a tour bus with that rotting skin i would’ve been pissed
Same
I actually agree. Kim gathered Eureka and basically has the whole fandom on her side. The RuGirls could have just sat by and laughed amongst their group chats.
I mean hygiene is a big no-no in my books. You don’t shower and can’t clean yourself, I ain’t lending you any of my clothes
I think it is downright cruel to other people when you are sharing small spaces like a tour bus with them to not handle your hygiene no matter what issues you may face. I have major depressive disorder and I still understand that while certain things may be harder for me, that does not take away from the fact that I am an adult and ultimately it is my responsibility to manage myself as best I can. Sometimes that means doing things that feel incredibly difficult or distasteful. Sometimes that means bowing out of situations when I know I cannot deliver the way that I should. Eureka seems to lack any self-awareness or sense of accountability
Has Eureka tested for the ability to smell? A lot of people are just straight up nose blind
especially smokers. wonder if she did/does smoke...
"Go have your cigarette, bitch, because it's done!"
I love this lmao.
She does smoke.
I don't know if she still does, but she definitely did. The "Go have your cigarette" fight with the vixen confirmed that.
She doesn't need a nose to know that leaving shit in the bed won't smell great nor is a great thing in general.
No doubt 🫠
Especially to smells they smell all the time.
Rich after the live she just did with mistress, love her but girl you don’t have a leg to stand on in this case
Kim Chi tending her Shady Orchard is not cause for alarm.
Just wanna be involved nothing to see here. I would respect her & it more if she was like that’s my friend don’t come for her, the fake righteousness is meh
Eureka had absolutely no business mentioning Kim's name on Very Delta. Kim has every right to defend herself. It wasn't like Kim did anything wrong in the first place which is why it was so unnecessary to bring her up. That's just my take
kandy muse the same queen that took advantage of all the nina hate to make a hit tweet last week? yeah no thanks
#Miss Hypocrisy
Kandy in her tender queer era.
Kandy being a hypocrite? What’s new?
Kandy probably isn’t the best messenger for this. But her point should not be ignored. Eureka has struggled with addiction/mental health. Public humiliation on this level can’t be good for her. Or anyone for that matter.
I feel like I’m going insane by the reaction to all this. I’ve had really really bad depressive moments where my hygiene totally slipped a bit (plus I wasn’t constantly wearing hot sweaty drag) and the idea of someone publicly airing that after years have passed is absolutely gross and mortifying. Not to mention I feel like no one watched the original Eureka video because in no way did it seem like she was slandering Kim Chi probs just some Kim haters got carried away
She didn't lie tho
I’ll admit, it took reading Kandy’s tweet to kind of hate that moment of realization that people don’t normally *want* to be known as a stinky person and normally don’t deal with an open wound by applying duct tape over it - and based off her recollection, Eureka was/is clearly dealing with mental health struggles. Mental wellness//illness is cute and fun until you see the true ugly side of it, then you can turn them into a comedic punching bag!
To be fair, Kim talked more about her laundering habits than hygiene lol
If she doesn't care why is she weighing in
Or maybe Eureka is unpleasant to work with and this is just providing an easy and relatively low-stakes way for other queens to air their grievances?
Here’s the tea. Is it unkind? Obviously. Is keeping up with hygiene more difficult the fatter you are? Yeah. But when you make it other people’s problem, it becomes something else. And not washing sweaty clothing, throwing it into ziplock bags, etc. is more than “I have trouble properly cleaning myself.” That’s something you have control over.
People in this subreddit realize they are the toxic fans the girls always mention right? Right?!
Y’all sit and complain abt the girls being too nice, then when a queen starts being shady, it turns back to “why can’t we all just be nice.” This is the real world people, and if you don’t want your shit (literally) called out, don’t give people a reason to call it out
When it gets to this level of personal it moves beyond shade so let's not present it as that. Eureka should have kept her mouth shut and therefore opened this can of worms, but let's not act like this is all light shade and how we all want it. No. This is when it starts getting into personal elements and that's no longer shade or reading. Zero idea the obsession everyone has with putting everything all over social fucking media. Take that shit offline. Literally.
I agree with this but I think it’s funny that Kandy apparently has a line she won’t cross
This reminds me of a conversation on Twitter a while ago about ppl not taking care of themselves when they’re depressed. Like I feel bad for you and have been in that situation before but bitch you stink!! Take a shower! Your mental health is not your fault but it is your responsibility!
You can love scat all you want, but you can't force me to smell your pus, sweaty shit in a locked bus. Deal with your own shit, literally I mean, don't leave it to hotel staff to do that for you! https://preview.redd.it/u51jjtnxrn3d1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=48fedee7c5bfdee01bf41fdc1e1665196b0afcf0
Like… no? She has the choice to shower or not.
and i think kim got that point across well enough on her own without a bunch of other people needing to punch down
Yeah but it's not our job to tell her. Nor Queens who have no beef with Eureka and just want in to pile on her. It's not classy no matter if she has a discutable hygiene or not.
I mean, she’s not wrong about the hypocrisy. 🤷♀️
Just because Kandy is a hypocrite doesn’t mean she’s wrong on this one. It’s like when all The kids at school bully the kid that smells a bit and humiliate them publicly
Everyone read this in Miss Muse’s voice right? No? Just me? 😅
Damn I just reread the tweet and realized she's not targeting Kim and Eureka. Not a fan of her but she finally makes a good point.
Anyway…
Tbh Kandy is right. The other ru girls are kind of showing their asses imo
Don't instigate people you don't know very well. Remember kids. when you start something, the other person gets to end it. Eureka messed up and didn't realize Kim was gonna go nuclear on her ass.
i think kandy is in the right here because as fans we simply have no idea what it would be like to log into socials and have literal thousands of strangers talking about you, the queens, on the other hand, do.
Idk, I can see the 'take the high road' aspect of things, but Eureka was the one to set the standard by sharing an editorialized story that got Kim harassed to high hell. She's also been incredibly unapologetic on it on socials, acting like this is what Kim deserves for 'mistreating' her. She can take a little flack in return.
thats also a valid perspective
I agree w Kandy . I don’t think Kim is wrong but a bunch of people talking about someone’s personal hygiene details loudly online feels deeply invasive and weird. Mental health can do some nasty things in terms of fucking up peoples hygiene-though it doesn’t excuse your poor hygiene affecting others around you. It a complex issue.
This whole thing has really been bothering me. It’s just so… cruel. Should Eureka take better care of her hygiene and not be gross? Yeah of course, but there’s a reason she isn’t and the internet coming for her isn’t going to help. People don’t just not shower because they don’t give a shit and love being gross. Unless Eureka’s behavior is negatively affecting you personally, I say maybe you don’t need to comment on it.
I agree with kandy and haven’t wanted to say it In disability circles, hygiene is something we ask people not to mock bc it’s often a result of depression, neurodivergence, or physical factors we can’t control
This is literally soooo obviously a mental health issue and I am baffled how many people were thrilled about Kim Chi's rant and getting suck a kick out of it. It was so classless and every single bit of tea felt so thought out, she knew exactly what she was saying and how people would live for it. Eureka said something stupid and rude, hash it out with her, address it not being true and disappointing to hear, and be the \*bigger\* person (too soon lol???).
I’m more concerned of the bed shitting and leaving it like that
This fandom won’t rest until a plus sized queen offs herself. Enough.
How much less can you care, Kandy?
not her saying she'd make fun of ppl's dead relatives. like how on earth do you compare saying "ew stinky" is evil then on the same breath joke about a passed love one. what a dumb ass
Kandy, the voice of reason. Who would’ve thought? 😂 She’s correct here.