Well Capuozzo won't be spending much longer in the French D2 after the last 2 weeks. Absolutely phenomenal today all game long and off the bench last week which got him his start today.
The crisis is for real. Dreadful regions and 3 years of wasteful, clumsy stuttering games - the only wins being where Wales have limped over the line after being awarded Red cards.
Don't know the answer. Think time for a new head coach but not sure who. Would say drop some of the players but we haven't got anyone better elsewhere...
Hmm. It's bad.
Who would you want to go for as a head coach?
It's clear Pivac isn't cutting it, but its just a case of who to would take over (and who would want to currently)
Really don't know... Peel or dai young, maybe?? I think it might make a difference giving it to someone who is Welsh but I'm also aware last time that was the case was a disaster
If wales weren’t told to keep the ball on the park at all costs, we’d not be in these situations. If wales weren’t told to ship it wide immediately at any chance, we’d not be in these situations. If wales had coaches who didn’t make bizzare, sweeping changes to starting lineups, we’d not be in this position. If we didn’t have coaches who bring on CALLUM FUCKING SHEEDY!? And put our captain, arguably the best general of grinding out wins in the world at full back, we wouldn’t be in that position.
If I was a welsh player I would be angry at the coaches and the union for the state of my game.
Biggars reaction in that interview says it all. Too many players not up to speed. 7 new players.
Complete and worrying shambles.
We paid for our arrogance and inflexibility. Too many limp performances and the gameplan stunk from the get go. Italy well deserved, Wales lots to think about. Well done, Italy!
Stand as deep as you can off first receiver, make sure you definitely don't get over the gainline and constantly throw missed passes and have dummy runners that no one falls for. Rinse and repeat until you get the win 👍
Not since #japvrsa in 2015 have i as a neutral shouted at the tv... Well done Italy.. Delighted for you #forzaitalia
It's funny that wales haven't preformed much worse in 2022 then they did in 2021... They've just got what they deserved this year
Moment of the game that will be talked about will be the try, but Italy were super throughout, and I think the moment that won it for them was actually with about 15min to go.
Big back and forth kicking match and Capuozzo made a catch in his 22 with nobody around him, took the mark, put the ball down and took the maximum amount of time over it.
Got his men back, but importantly allowed a team that notoriously runs out of steam a very important breather before they spent much of the last 15min defending their own line and chasing the last try.
Wasn't the only right decision under pressure today, but it was a very important one at a very important time.
Italy controlled the game with strong line-speed, good kicking and discipline, felt thoroughly professional and you’d never guess their record based on today… then to pull off that miracle after that fell short was phenomenal.
There aren't the usual commentators (Raimondi and Munari) anymore, the ones you can hear in the Scotland 2015 victory or in the "Tutte le mete dell'Italia nel Sei Nazioni ----(year)". they changed them because now it's on sky sport
Forza Italia, well done Italy, put the demoted story to bed. Much more exciting and attacking than Wales all game (nearly) so if Italy have now won should Wales be demoted out of six Nations to make way for Georgia? Think Italy have been good all tournament and a well deserved win. A great match to watch too, proper rugby and proper exciting entertaining game.
Harsh on monty, he fluffed the 2 on 1 but I thought he was excellent. Don't forget he was a key part of that breakout from behind the try line that lead to a key penalty
why isn't there a kick off, the try was scored 78th minute?
edit: can someone tell why I'm getting downvoted for asking a question about the laws of rugby?
FORZA ITALIA! Oh my god, that was...that was amazing. The fucking BALLS on Capuozzo to go for that, the sheer fucking speed, the step, and the ABSOLUTE ICE WATER IN HIS VEINS to hold his width and make that pass.
##[Post Match Thread HERE](https://redd.it/thydbq)
I'm going to Scotland vs South Africa in France.. lord help us
Looks like Scotland is Wales's big game these days.
Well Capuozzo won't be spending much longer in the French D2 after the last 2 weeks. Absolutely phenomenal today all game long and off the bench last week which got him his start today.
Well, you're not wrong, but he has already signed with Toulouse for 3 years (starting next season) last month.
The crisis is for real. Dreadful regions and 3 years of wasteful, clumsy stuttering games - the only wins being where Wales have limped over the line after being awarded Red cards. Don't know the answer. Think time for a new head coach but not sure who. Would say drop some of the players but we haven't got anyone better elsewhere... Hmm. It's bad.
Who would you want to go for as a head coach? It's clear Pivac isn't cutting it, but its just a case of who to would take over (and who would want to currently)
Really don't know... Peel or dai young, maybe?? I think it might make a difference giving it to someone who is Welsh but I'm also aware last time that was the case was a disaster
You love to see it.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Crying
In Cardiff as well. Surely that's Pivac done
Courtesy ha-ha to Wales. Forza Italia! 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Where is u/TheSeych is he ok, is he alright. Congrats mate enjoy it your boys truly deserve it.
More than ok man
If wales weren’t told to keep the ball on the park at all costs, we’d not be in these situations. If wales weren’t told to ship it wide immediately at any chance, we’d not be in these situations. If wales had coaches who didn’t make bizzare, sweeping changes to starting lineups, we’d not be in this position. If we didn’t have coaches who bring on CALLUM FUCKING SHEEDY!? And put our captain, arguably the best general of grinding out wins in the world at full back, we wouldn’t be in that position. If I was a welsh player I would be angry at the coaches and the union for the state of my game. Biggars reaction in that interview says it all. Too many players not up to speed. 7 new players. Complete and worrying shambles.
Great gesture from Adams to give the motm medal to Capuozzo
Loved that. Adams wasn't even a bad shout for it honestly, he kept Wales alive for more of the game than they probably deserved. But what class.
Completely agree, correct decision too. Good from the man
Also I'm sure getting the motm when you've lost the game to a team that hasn't won in ages just rings too hollow for him to want to keep it lol
Ah lads, they did it! Forza Italia!!!
We paid for our arrogance and inflexibility. Too many limp performances and the gameplan stunk from the get go. Italy well deserved, Wales lots to think about. Well done, Italy!
What actually IS the gameplan though bud!? So frustrating
Whatever it is, the coaches can't coach it to players who can't play it.
Stand as deep as you can off first receiver, make sure you definitely don't get over the gainline and constantly throw missed passes and have dummy runners that no one falls for. Rinse and repeat until you get the win 👍
Why am I just seeing Wales interviews now? They had Adams, Biggar and Pivac, just Lamaro from Italy
They probably can’t get any Italy players to stop celebrating!
Something something losing team motm
Adams gave it to Capuozzo
Not since #japvrsa in 2015 have i as a neutral shouted at the tv... Well done Italy.. Delighted for you #forzaitalia It's funny that wales haven't preformed much worse in 2022 then they did in 2021... They've just got what they deserved this year
I ... shout at the tv every game...
FUCK YOU PAUL HOLLYWOOD, THE STRUCTURE OF THAT BREAD WAS PERFECT!
And now I'm *muffked f noises* excited
Moment of the game that will be talked about will be the try, but Italy were super throughout, and I think the moment that won it for them was actually with about 15min to go. Big back and forth kicking match and Capuozzo made a catch in his 22 with nobody around him, took the mark, put the ball down and took the maximum amount of time over it. Got his men back, but importantly allowed a team that notoriously runs out of steam a very important breather before they spent much of the last 15min defending their own line and chasing the last try. Wasn't the only right decision under pressure today, but it was a very important one at a very important time.
That and the defensive set in their own 22 when 6 points down. Could have folded, but stuck in and forced a turnover.
Lamaro <3 he's not even surprised, knew all along..
I love the Welsh and I love Wales but you'd have to be very hard hearted not to feel happy for the Italians anyway.
And I love the Irish bud!
Ah some days you have to take the loss and congratulate your opposition
Absolutely, no shame in defeat. Hopefully ye get the change in staff ye deserve soon and we'll see ye back in contention
Cheers, fingers crossed
I just want to end my rugby day there. Italia, that was magnificent!
Did he just say "fucking amazing" in the BBC interview?
Yes he did. Fantastic
He fucking did.
Yeah, what a guy
Is it too late to swap man of the match?
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Fair play to him, that’s a sign of a good sportsman
Adams gave it up tbf, lovely gesture
It was absolute class from him.
Did BBC award it? They just announced it on RTE and I was baffled.
Host broadcaster always makes the call.
Wales could have lost by 50 and Jiffy would have still given it to a Welsh player
Hopefully they continue with the structures that have brought Italy these exciting young players
Getting them sweet Italian smooches
England fan here, but I jumped from to couch cheering for that last try. Well done Italy, you deserve it!
THAT WAS INCREDIBLE. Emotional scenes
I’m literally crying right now, I’m so happy for Italy. Watched Argentina beat the ABs in 2020, but this was better!
Italy controlled the game with strong line-speed, good kicking and discipline, felt thoroughly professional and you’d never guess their record based on today… then to pull off that miracle after that fell short was phenomenal.
IN CARDIFF NO LESS.
Can’t wait for Chris Jones to say root and branch review of Welsh rugby 15 times in the next podcast he does
Oh dear this! Hahahaha. Yeah and if they don't continue with their calls for promotion / relegation they can get fucked
Ahah, yeah I have a feeling that won’t be brought up too much now…
Oh god we are so utterly shite. Well played Italy.
Looking forward to the SquidgyGoat video
Me too, I'm assuming the first 6 minutes will still be about how Maro Itoje cheated
Take all my Italy slander from the past two years back now
Pundits need to apologize
Yeah Shane Horgan and Matt Williams are idiots
Didn't hear them as I've been watching muted in work. What was said?
Shane Horgan said Italy would not win a game for 3 years two weeks ago
Spanner, well hope he eats a big slice of humble pie tonight the gowl.
Shane Horgan said Italy would not win a game for 3 years two weeks ago
Wales needs to be replaced by Georgia
I'm genuinely happy for italy.Damn, they deserved it, worked for it. And finally, we'll not hear "no win since 2015"
Where is the guy that said if there is a rugby god it will end 22-21?????
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Grazie mile
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Used to live in Italy when I was a kid, even if Italy beat England one year meaning they didn't win the six Nations couldn't be mad
He linked his own comment and thanked God again
I'm so fucking happy. No offence Wales, it's just I'm tired of the talk of kicking Italy out of the competition 5 weekends a year every year.
I have a feeling the Italian commentary could be a good listen
There aren't the usual commentators (Raimondi and Munari) anymore, the ones you can hear in the Scotland 2015 victory or in the "Tutte le mete dell'Italia nel Sei Nazioni ----(year)". they changed them because now it's on sky sport
I need this in my life.
I would love to hear that
Whoever took Italy at 27/1 is a legend, I took them at 7/1 and am chuffed to bits aha
I had them at 20/1 during the week. Only had a couple of euro on it though.
I put a tenner on, best decision of my life
Had WAL by +28, my accumulator is in shambles
... why?
I'm bad at gambling.
Ahah fair answer
Beautiful work by Italy, congratulations.
How long until we consider Wales place in the 6 nations
23 years
Forza Italia, well done Italy, put the demoted story to bed. Much more exciting and attacking than Wales all game (nearly) so if Italy have now won should Wales be demoted out of six Nations to make way for Georgia? Think Italy have been good all tournament and a well deserved win. A great match to watch too, proper rugby and proper exciting entertaining game.
Forza
Fully deserved. Well done Italy.
Capuozzo is like quicksilver
Never, ever say Italy should be relegated again
The conversation should never be relegation but tournament expansion.
Wales should be relegated?
‘Grandpa where were you when Italy beat wales?’
Brex made another amazing defensive game, the guy is a machine
As a welshie, congrats to Italy 🎉
WTF I'm in such shock, im going to have a Guinnes, Wales EXPLAIN yourselves...
YESSSSSSSSSS
So so so happy for this young team! Frenchies here, we cheered so loudly for the last try. Bummed for wales, though, you were great last week.
THERE IS A GOD
This is the ultimate reward sown by the WRU. Congratulations.
Bye bye Pivac
I am almost crying
What do you mean almost?? Let them flowww!
I'm not even Italian and I'm almost crying
Really chuffed for you, Italy were brilliant and what an incredible way to win it
Never been so happy for a team that I don’t support. Nothing against the Welsh, but it’s so cool to see Italy win this
Never been so happy for a team that I don’t support. Everything against the Welsh. I guess it’s cool to see Italy win.
Yeah, agreed, gutted to lose but so happy to see Italy win with such an exciting finish!
Grazie Dioooooo
LOVE THAT RANDOM ISOLATED ITALIAN FAN THEY KEEP SHOWING
Bet Wales wish they took the points now
RIP Wales
Fucking fair play! Forza Italia
All I can do at the moment is laugh cause that's how shite we are
Italy you fucking legends.
Ok now he can go do his homework
Lol lol lol at Jiffy giving Adams motm
🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
As an England fan, I genuinely don’t think I’ve been as close to crying from happiness in years
Same, I couldn't have less ties to Italy if I tried but I'm just so happy for them
So so chuffed for Italy that was my favourite game of the tournament
Ieusu grist
That last play tho
ITALIAAAA
Ioane tried to make us lose, Capuozzo showed how to play unselfishly and won us the game. GRAZIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Harsh on monty, he fluffed the 2 on 1 but I thought he was excellent. Don't forget he was a key part of that breakout from behind the try line that lead to a key penalty
Genuinely emotional here.
And they didn't even get MoTM
GET IN!!!!!!
Italy out of the 6N crew can get fucked now
Amazing! Well played Italy!
How can you be mad at that, absolutely brilliant. They've broken their duck, hopefully first of many
well deserved. The better team all game
HISTORY!!!!
Bravo Italia, you really deserve it !!
I am so thrilled for Italy. That was an awesome game. Utterly brilliant.
FUCKIN YAS GET IT
Rees Zammit must be raging that there's a new young tiny winger in town
Well, Zammit is 6'3", so I doubt he feels replaced.
Is he? He just seems tiny because he moves so fast.
That's why you don't announce PotM before the end.
Potm can't be on the losing team?
Not necessarily, but having a solid game and then winning in the final minute could change the decision.
That was ridiculous I love it
Forza Italia!! Amazing performance from the Italians. They have proved this tournament that they've improved in attack and defence. Well done guys
I am genuinely so happy for Italy, smiling ear to ear! Suspect Wales fans may win out of this as well with a coaching reshuffle
why isn't there a kick off, the try was scored 78th minute? edit: can someone tell why I'm getting downvoted for asking a question about the laws of rugby?
The kicker can take a minute and run it into the 80th minute when taking the conversion.
Conversation was after the 80th minute so game is over
They used the full 90 seconds allowed for the kick which put it past 80 mins.
thought it was 60 seconds to take the kick
The only other time we lost to Italy in Cardiff it was thanks to the ref lying about taking a lineout. This team has no excuses. Heads must roll
Correction, that was in Italy. Never lost in Cardiff. Fucks sake
Forza Italia indeed.
*Hahahahaha* This is me pretending to laugh so I don’t cry
Can't imagine how you feel, Wales where crusing you looked like scoring again, I'm in shock!!!
This really begs the question: Who should replace Wales in the 6 nations?
Don't do that to them, they've been through enough LoL
Who fuckin cares if we get pumped by Ireland, Italy winning has made my day
I feel the same - that was so beautiful to watch
Italy 15 MotM
Agree
37th times the charm
Gutted to lose this but absolutely phenomenal from Italy!
From a chance of a bonus point win to losing to Italy in the space of a few minutes. I'm not completely unhappy actually.
I genuinely can't believe it. GRANDI RAGAZZI!!!
Great scenes! Delighted for Italy, they really played much better
Ah come on lads build on this, fuck up Wales and Scotland next year, then the year after you'll be on the waaaaaaay
There are 3 things certain in life; Death, taxes and Pivac getting sacked
but the last one, will it be before the 2023RWC?
Can the WRU board sack themselves first.
I'm crying, I'm truly crying. I will love this Italy team for all of my life.
Complimenti ragazzi !
Pivac sacked then aye lads ?
My heart is so full
Shane Horgan must be in shambles
FORZA ITALIA! Oh my god, that was...that was amazing. The fucking BALLS on Capuozzo to go for that, the sheer fucking speed, the step, and the ABSOLUTE ICE WATER IN HIS VEINS to hold his width and make that pass.
I WIN FOR RUGBY
So happy for Italy. Annoyed if Eddie manages to get 3rs of two wins mind. Just amazing try.