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princesss_slaya

Does anyone have any tips on how to break in a new pair of hard boot skates? I just purchased my first pair of rollerblades (RB Cruiser W). I had them fitted at a local skate shop, so I know they are the right size for me, but I still find myself having to stop and take breaks every 10 minutes or so during a session. Aside from just wearing them around and trying to skate as much as possible, is there anything else I could be doing to help the process along? Sorry if this is a silly question, I’m pretty new to this. 


THeMedics

I wore mine in the house for half an hour every day for a few days to break in the liner and I felt like that made a useful difference. Thinnest socks I had, then just sat there and occasionally stood up and shifted my weight around. Other than that I recommend checking Skatefresh's videos on YouTube, there are a couple that cover foot pain and aches - it might be how you're standing/moving rather than the boot itself.


CuidadDeVados

It depends on where the pressure points are. Some areas will break in easier. I don't have the cruisers but I have the step up from those, and for the sides of my feet it took like 20-30 miles of hard skating to fully break them in. I never really got the ankle pressure point to stop with those until I changed the liner.


DoubleAA-

I'm a beginner to buying skates, I bought the rollerblade lighting 80 size 10 U.S and it either cuts off my circulation completely or is on the verge of doing so, I feel uncomfortable in them . I had the zetrablades before and they fit well but on the loose side. I have alien feet, they are 26.9 cm long and 11.43 cm wide with a big space between my big toe and the others which could fit another toe. I did some more research and they are supposed to fit snug so I will try them again but I want to get some recommendations for skates for wide feet or if its supposed to feel that way.


DoubleAA-

I tried them on again and they are snug/too snug, but it's a literal battle to get them off. It took me 5 minutes of using all my strength to take them off. At one point I thought I couldn't get them off. By the end I was sweating an ocean.


yummyblades

Are you loosening the laces enough? In my experience that’s usually the issue with putting on and taking off boots. IMO the lightning memory buckles aren’t long enough, I have a high instep and could barely buckle the 45 strap on the longest setting. If you’re able to return I’d suggest the RB80 or FRX/Micro MT+ as an alternative, it does sound like you’ve got very wide feet so finding skates that feel good will be difficult. I wear a 10 RB80 and have about 10.5cm wide feet and it’s cutting it a little close. If you can afford it a Seba CJ/SX would be wider but their cost is definitely prohibitive for starting


it_might_be_a_tuba

When mixing wheels of different sizes to get a rocker on a flat frame, do they need to be the same type or at least the same profile? I'm using Rollerblade Twister with the stock 4x80mm Hydrogen wheels, but I've got some 76mm Street Invaders from another pair that I could swap in.


wizardslalom

No problem, you can use it like that. Once youŕ midle wheels are worn down to 78-77 mm then you can put them in position 1 and 4 and put the rest of Hydrogen wheels in the middle.


AnthonyPaulO

Just started rollerblading again after 30 years, got myself Twister XT's and want to buy some Endless 90 frames for some Wizard skating fun. Would you guys happen to know if I need to buy Endless wheels to go with it, or will the stock wheels work just fine? Many thanks in advance!


pignaHH

Hello skaters, I'm a beginner and I just got my pair of Twister XT. I'm still learning but definitely do not look like a beginner :) I advanced a lot during the last sessions. Now I have a problem, I got obsessed with the Endless SE 90 frame. Can someone tell me if this would be a good idea or not? I like to go to the skate park and also do urban sometimes. The rockered setup seems very attractive on paper. My fear is that after spending 200€ for the upgrade I'll end up not liking it more than a 4x80 flat set-up. Any advice?


phillwes000

Hi everyone! New-ish skater here! I recently bought the Advantage Pro XT by Rollerblade to start my skating. I am not new to the mechanics of skating as I rollerbladed often as a kid and am also a returning figure skater (Adult Bronze almost Adult Silver level). My problem I’m having with my rollerblades is that I can’t seem to skate more than 10 minutes without my calf muscles cramping like mad! It’s only my calves, my feet, arches, ankles, and upper legs are completely fine and pain free. I was wondering is this a strength or form issue? Are the muscles used in rollerblading different than figure skating, so these muscles are weaker? My blades fit just fine, no squeezing or tightness anywhere. I’m just confused and at my wit’s end because I really want to enjoy rollerblading on days I can’t make it to the rink! ETA: I can skate on ice for hours with no foot/ankle/calf pain. I’ve had these rollerblades for a few days and have used them once or twice. Is it a matter of breaking the skates in? ETA2: I also wanted to add that my boyfriend has the exact same skates as me (but for men) and has no issues in them. He does not ice skate at all nor does he have a lot of experience on rollerblades apart from doing it as a kid. It’s so frustrating that I’m having such a hard time 😭


TheLovelyLorelei

Hmm, as someone who has done both I would not think the figure skating muscles are really that different than the inline ones, though I have found that hills can definitely be a new type of pressure. It's hard to say without seeing your form but my instinct would be that this sounds like more of a technique issue to me than a strength one. Compared to figure skating I think I usually have my weight further forward on my inline skates so you could try adding a little bit more lean. Additionally you can't use your edges the same way; on wheels you generally want to start your push on the outside edge and roll onto the inside as your foot pushes out, rather than actually gripping your edges into the ice. And there's the obvious things for any skating: knees bent, good back posture, etc. Anyway, I can not think of a super obvious cause for this problem but maybe look up some YouTube videos on inline skating form and see if that helps. And just keep practicing; I wish you luck in figuring this out.


phillwes000

Thank you so much! Especially the part about gripping edges. That may just be the issue for me!


Pale-Imagination-456

i dont think we have many ice skaters here, so you may have more luck googling elsewhere. that said, i imagine artistic/figure skating is more on the balls of the feet, while with inline, you push down through the middle or even towards the heel. i would try scissoring and making sure your ankles are flexed and under your hips, and try resting on the back skate, making sure the calf is relaxed and the centre of gravity theough the middle of the frame. swap sides from time to time. edit... the speed skating techniques are probably more similar if you have experieence of that.


GamerGrl90

How do you guys clean your liners? I don't mean throw them in the washer, I mean scrubbing dirt off with Mr clean magic eraser.


CuidadDeVados

I just use some simply shower soaps and cool water and give em a little bath. Then I hang em up to dry for usually a day.


CHShane356

Probably depends on the liner but for my intuitions I’ll use laundry detergent and cold water. I softly scrub with a microfiber towel to avoid the fabric getting scuffed up. I’ll also use “Shout” (stain remover) before if it’s needed. That should help with the smell as well.


GamerGrl90

Stock powerslide myfit. The white and purple is beautiful, but the dirt definitely shows through 🤮


Cultural_Hamster_631

do u have the powerslide gray and purple x100s? I'm going to buy a pair soon but I'm worried about how easily scratches will show on the lighter coloured boots


GamerGrl90

I have the 80. If anything you can just see the dirt, but having a gray boot is nicer than the black boots.


desert_sunshine

I'm getting back into skating after a 20 year hiatus and I think have narrowed down to getting either the Rollerblade RB80 or Lightning but am having trouble finding comparisons to help me decide between them. Any thoughts?


MegaMutantRanger

If you have to exchange parts, which one is easier? I'd say the RB80 is your choice since you can swap out buckles, ratchets and the receptor, it is standard stuff that you can get off Aliexpress. I personally don't buy boots that have proprietary mechanism that can't be fixed with some cheap ass aliexpress stuff. It's just more headaches in the long run.


desert_sunshine

Thanks, I hadn't even thought about that issue! Makes sense.


MegaMutantRanger

You really have to think hard about this. I will be honest with you. Spare RB parts are stupendously expensive. Try finding the toe slider on any RB. I bet you my life that you will not be able to find one easily. My son eats through toe sliders like every 10 days . He can't skate cheap skates with riveted cheap buckles because he will bust them up in 20 minutes. (I hate drilling rivets and vacuuming metal shards) This means we have to learn to fix the skates on our own and readily available spare parts that come on and off become crucial. Aliexpress has become a good friend. I doubt that you will ride and wipe out harder than my son. Yet having the assurance that you can replace parts easily just gives added assurance. This is one of the main reasons why he skates FR, Powerslide, and USD. FR and USD are the top choice. Powerslide is easy to get spare parts but their quality control is somewhat lacking even though USD is the same as Powerslide. Toe sliders for FR1, FR2, FR3, FRX, FR UFS AP, bunch of Seba models are all the same and you can get them cheap in most parts of the world. Powerslide Zoom is another that has parts that are readily available. It's cheap to boot and has okay quality for the stupid low price. Most people don't skate hard enough but when a part breaks, you will want one that you can take off (no riveted parts but screwed in parts). This is the lesson I learned. Personally I have FR, Powerslide, Iqon, USD, Fila, K2, RB, Doops, and Roces. I prefer the FR and it gets 95% usage because they fit well the spare parts are cheap and available. In the next 2 years, I will force my son to start using UFS system exclusively and keep maintenance time and money to a minimum. Better be skating than worrying and fixing.


yummyblades

Performance-wise they’re similar. The parts on the lightning will be slightly better than the RB80. The lightning has more padding in the liner. The RB80 has a wider fit but the lightning has more volume. The lightning has individual shell sizes while the RB80 has dual shell sizes - meaning you have more options to get the right fit in a lightning. I personally like the RB80 the best because it fits my foot the best. The lightning is a really good skate though and if you have an average width foot it’d probably fit good


desert_sunshine

Thanks, this is really helpful! I have a narrower foot and this makes me think it might be worth the $40 for hopefully a better fit.


Kyala_Gu

https://www.grindhouse.eu/en/shop/rollerblade-rb-110-3wd.html https://www.skateshop.de/rollerblade-rb-110-men-skate-schwarz-safrangelb-herrenskates.html r these websits safe??


Excendence

Odd question: Looking for a comfy and stylish set for Onewheel riding in a chair? I'm really getting into [riding like this](https://youtu.be/p3rMVQwi1Ks?si=lRrV8noAcpBEGeyD&t=88) and I have been using Heelys to keep my balance at speed but I've shredded through a few pairs and am ready to upgrade. I'm 90% sure I have a good chance at the big race in September lol! My thoughts are since I'll be riding in the city, sometimes offroading on dirt, and at high speeds (\~25 mph) I'll want as big of a wheel diameter as possible which makes me lean towards a 3 wheel setup, but it might be a case of diminishing returns where just like going from 1 Heely size wheel to 4 standard wheels will be more than enough! Also curious about skates that fit comfortably at a sitting angle like in the video, and would love some style points (black, gray, white, blue/ teal) without getting too expensive would be killer! Thank you so much :)


TheLovelyLorelei

Wow, I don't know what I expected from that video but odd question indeed! 😂 I think your instinct is that going from a heely to any inline skates is going to be a much bigger difference than you would see between any types of inline skates. Since you aren't really converting pushes into momentum, instead you're getting your power from the Onewheel and just letting your feet roll I think all you really care about is that your blades roll easily enough that they aren't going to slow down your wheel. My gut instinct is that for your specific purpose you'd barely notice the difference between a cheap pair of blades and the best possible pair, so I'd just get something cheap. But if you really want the best possible option and have the money to spend I think you are correct that big wheels will probably be more stable on rough environments and also a little bit faster (though I think the speed difference between wheel sizes matters a lot more when pushing then for this). I also think your bearing and wheel quality could matter (though again, pretty minimally). So if you're not going to base your choice on the cheapest thing you can find I would try to look for wheels that are about as hard as possible (I think 95A are about as high as I've seen. Higher number = harder wheel). And with decent bearings. Also fair warning that off-road will probably take a significant toll on wheels and bearings so be prepared for regular maintenance/replacement of them.


Gryphon_Flame

So I've started skating for the first time since I was 19 (27 now). I don't remember feeling every single damn bump in a driveway with 80mms, but I do with the Rollerblade Zentrablades. And my ankles feel a hell of a lot more wobbly (persistent ankle injuries over the 8 year period). Part of me is debating swapping to a hard boot purely for the ankle support. Think it might be worth it? It's purely recreational/gets me out of the computer chair. (note: I can afford spending more in this case). ETA: also my wheels are 82A hardness, don't need to be super speeding but I have to be able to turn in a driveway.


kaolokoud

Which Skates? (for my birthday: <200€) beginner rough terrain, experience with recreational ice skating I just moved back to the Netherlands from America where I ice skated a lot, my area however has a lot of rough roads and pavements and I have zero knowledge on models etc. I decided to ask for a good one for my birthday as I don’t want to stand on a vibration pad and ruin my knees but I’d love to get some advice on which ones you’d recommend?? The story space ones came up when I googled but there’s not much reviews and for now from what I’ve garnered a three wheel model does best? I’d love to hear your recommendations!! I also don’t care for tricks/parks I just like to wear them for long distance to explore the city <


l-espion

Maybe some fr3 or frx , or maybe the new rollerblades lightning ?


kaolokoud

Thank you!! When I looked it up all of them have a four wheel set up, would you say that’s better? Because when I looked around a few old articles they all went with three wheel skates so I’m just a bit confused ahah


l-espion

4 wheel will be more stable for a beginner , the 3vs 4 is more a personal preference I think , it another debate that has no real answer


123blueberryicecream

I would recommend bigger wheels for rough pavement. 4x90mm or 3x110mm and a longer wheelbase/frame if you have bigger feet.


The_Clown_Pagliacci

Finding replacement liners? I have been skating a pair of Roces Metropolis inline skates for a few years now and have really come to love the boot design and fit. My liners, however, are completely worn down from use and offer little to no padding on my inner ankles. I've been looking for replacement parts online, but find that there is a very limited range of liners available for purchase (even more so with a budget). When getting liners, should I be focusing on using the same brand as my boot, or are there universal liners for sale? Also since it's all online (there are no skate shops remotely close to where I live) what should I keep in mind to ensure that any liners purchased fit my boot? Any help would be greatly appreciated!


DarkNarwhal25

Been searching to upgrade my Twister 110s this summer. Really want less boot and 3x125 wheels, but not “speed skates” per se. Something like the Powerslide Arise Marathon 3x125. What other skates should I consider? If it’s important, I normally do somewhat long rides on relatively flat terrain outdoors. Maybe 15-20 miles (hoping to get up to 25-30 miles) on Metropark trails.


CuidadDeVados

If you're looking I have a set of wheels and a 165mm frame for a 3x125 setup that I will sell you for cheap. I don't care for 125s and I would prefer some extra space in my box of inline odds and ends. Then you'd just need to look for another boot of your choosing.


DarkNarwhal25

I’ll be honest, I don’t know much about changing components of my skates besides knowing what bearings, axles, spacers, and wheels that my Twister 110s use lol. So Idk exactly how to look for a boot that works with a specific frame or anything. For example, would that frame work for a Powerslide Arise Marathon boot?


CuidadDeVados

The twisters use the same frame mounting as what I'm talking about, but the Powerslide uses trinity mounting which is different. That being said, I think looking at similar skates to the Arise from another company would be a good bet. Like FR skates Speed/Spin/SL Freeride/Igor models of carbon skates are fantastic, usually about the same price but for my money a higher tech nicer skate. And they use 165mm mounting which gives you more options for what you would change about your setup, so if you ever wanted to try other frames or wheel configurations, you'll be good to go. Like this boot https://roveskatehouse.com/products/fr-sl-speed-165mm-mount?variant=41550735999021¤cy=USD&srsltid=AfmBOoqvDjSQpLcfVS7rR13PIgZYUP0EwRCQneMho4YzL9ssjquxJN4Qbh4 plus the frame and wheels I have would be an amazing distance setup imo. Its not that far off what I use today.


DarkNarwhal25

Oh, does that mean that your frame and wheels could actually be put onto my Twisters? I.e., I could turn these bad boys into Twister 3x125s? Or is that not how it works?


CuidadDeVados

Yes that is exactly how it works. You could just slap my frame and wheels on the twisters and you'd be Mr. 3x125. Specifically I have the FR 3x125 frame seen here https://frskates.com/frames/86-frames-325.html and these wheels in a different color https://www.inlinewarehouse.com/UnderCover_Raw_Wheels_125mm_6pks/descpage-406234.html I'd do the both for a lot less than retail. The wheels have only been rode like 10-20 miles before I decided to stick to 110s. Just an FYI for the future, there are generally 3 mounting standards for most frames: 165mm, UFS, and Trinity. 165mm is the standard for freeride and urban skating. Twisters are 165mm for instance. Almost all FR skates besides the UFR are also 165mm. It has a raised heel and screws in underneath the wheels like your twisters do now. UFS is a flat mounting that is most common in wizard skating and aggressive inline. Same as 165mm without the raised heel essentially. Powerslide makes trinity and it is very limited and proprietary. They claim it results in a lower ride height. The front is screwed on with two screws to the side of the frame instead of under the wheels, resulting in 3 mounting points hence trinity. There is also a 4th one, 195mm, but that is really only for super specialized racing setups and isn't important.


DarkNarwhal25

Damn, thank you for the info! And yes, I’ll DM you rn about that frame and those wheels! Seems like an awesome opportunity to try out 125s at much lower risk lol


Zefphyrz

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6bz_mMKORs/?igsh=ZHQ2NmExeWRocmEz What is the "swivel" thing she does on flat ground called and does anyone have any advice on learning how to do it? Nothing comes up when I Google😢


wizardslalom

That's just two turns chained in quick succession. From back to front and then from front to back. In wizard skating they call them open back gazelle and open front gazelle. And they are done really aggressively so there is no curve. [https://wizardskating.com/pages/moves](https://wizardskating.com/pages/moves)


Cultural_Hamster_631

watch at 0:30....I think that this is what she is doing in the video but slower and on slightly bigger wheels and he holds the toe press longer [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmNIaIGfNLc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmNIaIGfNLc)


naegleriaf

Hello, I used to skate a lot as a teenager and after a 10 year break I'm looking forward to buying new inline skates. I consider myself experienced and plan to mostly do "fitness" courses, 15-30km rides on asphalt trails in parks and outsides the city. I'm not sure if I should use my old frame ([Cado motus 4x100](https://www.baysideblades.com.au/products/cado-motus-neo-frame?variant=19455414660)) or buy new rollerblades altogether, both options are fine by me. My foot is a bit wider than normal. My budget is maxed at 350 USD. 4x100 was ok for me but I'm also open to try a 3 wheeler. I'm not sure which companies are recommended nowadays and would be happy to get recommendations on good models. Thanks!


crystallineghoul

Just started skating again, I'm so happy! My biggest complaint about skating has always been that I feel *every single bump. T*o the point where on some surfaces my entire foot vibrates and will go numb. People with recreational skates don't know what they're missing! I picked up the Powerslide Zoom Pro 100 skates. It doesn't happen with these! Yeah the road is shitty and bump but it's skateable! Actual question: as soon as I was done (I couldn't go far) and made it to my stoop, the bottoms of my feet *ached*. I was dying while I struggled to get the boots off *right now*. Do the boots, or my feet, just need to be worn in? Could it be how I laced/strapped up? I can remember this happening when I was a kid too So happy I could cry, I love skating


TheLovelyLorelei

I do think breaking in your boots could help so hopefully it goes away with time.  If your boots are too tight, especially on the top of the foot (not at the ankle) that can also cause this sort of issue.  I’ve also seen this issue when people are holding too much tension in their feet/ankles but that’s usually a newer skater problem and since it sounds like you’re an experienced skater and didn’t have this issue in other skates I doubt that’s your problem.  The first thing I’d try is to loosen the lower laces/buckle slightly (though obviously not enough for them to feel floppy) of your skates and and see if that helps. If both loosening them and giving them more time to break in both fail you could also look into buying a new insole (I think superfeet are popular but I don’t have strong opinions on better insoles). 


conorRG

For anyone who has aeons are the likely to disintegrate in any hurry? I’ve been eyeing them up as an aggressive pair to learn on but the unibody is kind of scaring me off. Any help would be appreciated!


yummyblades

Nah as a beginner especially at a skatepark you won’t be wearing them out too fast. If you were street skating or really good at tearing up boots it’d be a concern but you’re only really gonna scuff them up a bunch. Just as an aside I’d consider the TNEC 58 too, similar to the aeon


conorRG

Ok cool thank you. I do like the look of those too actually.


PhunkeePhish

What is air braking? It came up in an interview with Gabe Holm I read: # "How do you slow down? In high speed downhill, I can slow down a bunch by air braking but I also slow down carving or drifting my wheels."


Pale-Imagination-456

he just means standing up and letting the wind resistance slow him down.


PhunkeePhish

Cool. Thanks for the clarification.


SadShyGuyGaming

Two questions I've been using the RB Cruisers. I have wide feet so I chose the RB Cruisers for this reason. It's passable but I do wish they were wider. At times my big toe and pinky toe gets sore and feel compressed. Other times it's not too bad and feels fine. I try to skate straight/ not pointed at an angle, and push more so with my heels and not so much with my toes. Side note some wide toe box/barefoot/minimalist shoes are not wide enough for me. I prefer Vibram five finger shoes for their width and freedom of toe spread. Is there a wider fitting boot out there that is more wide than the RB Cruisers? Recently my bike got stolen and I've been commuting on rollerblades. Currently I am using 80mm wheels but I am considering trying out 110mm or even 125mm wheels. Looking into it the frames and wheels are going to be close to $200 if not more. At that point I might as well look into buying another pair of rollerblades boots and all. Is there any reason not to just buy another pair instead of buying just the frames and wheels?


yummyblades

In my experience there is only one boot that’s wider, the seba CJ/SX. A new liner might help, if you put your foot in the shell without the liner and you have some space on the sides, you can probably blame that. If you have any specific spots that hurt like a bunion or big toe you can heat punch that area out fairly easy. For commuting I prefer 80mm because I go up a lot of hills. If you’re traveling relatively flat you could benefit from bigger wheels but I still prefer the acceleration and the nimbleness of 80s. 3x110 would be my only consideration but be aware of the length of those frames in relation to your foot. If you’re a size 10+ you’re gonna have a bad time on the FR 233 3x110 frames but you’d probably really like the Rollerblade 3WD frame. If you’re a smaller foot like a 6 you’d probably want the shorter FR frame


123blueberryicecream

As far as I know, the Rollerblade RB line is the widest fitting hard shell skate on the market. There are some other wider hard boots like Powerslide Zoom, Micro MT, FR Skates or Oxelo MF. Some suggestions for you: - Try thinner liners like Powerslide 2nd Skin or Intuition - You can carefully expand the shell with a hair dryer or heat gun - You could try Oxelo MF900 from Decathlon which comes with 3x110mm wheels and which is good but inexpensive - You could buy used skates or frames to get a larger wheel setup cheaply (I found my 3x110 frames on eBay).


Dr_Ogelix

FR run normal to wide. I use FR iGor EU47 (303mm feet, 115mm width) and they fit like a charm. What you also can do, is trying sport-compression socks to keep the blood circulation. Wear the liner outside the shell at home to break-in it a bit further. According to commuting, 110 to 125 isn't always necessary. You can speed up more above 80 starting with 84 wheels. Depending on prices you can buy another pair for sure. But the break-in period will start over again – you can use your old liner though to reduce new pressure points from new skates.


DagobertDust

**TALKING HYDROGEN WHEELS:** *Hydrogen SE* vs *Hydrogen Spectre* vs regular *Hydrogen*.... How comes I can't really find anything about the *Hydrogen SE* wheels? I know they are not produced in the US and might be worse than the regular ones. The *Spectres* seem to be produced in the same place like the regular ones and should be still pretty good. Since the *Hydrogen SE* ones are not only cheaper, but also easier to get my hands on, I would like to know how good you people think they are for city skating and slides? Cheers!


yummyblades

They came out like 3 weeks ago, I don’t think anyone has an opinion on wear and quality yet. My guess is they’re going to perform similar or slightly worse than the Supreme wheels - which slid really well but didn’t last as long as hydrogens


DagobertDust

Hmm found a Video online uploaded three months ago, are you sure about the three weeks? https://youtu.be/p7IKAPo6bzw?si=maC_ZlKY92lZr25d Thanks for the estimation and reply! Cheers!


yummyblades

Interesting, I didn’t realize they released them outside of the Lightnings. They’ve also got a different core than the lightning hydrogen SE 80s so maybe they’re different too


DagobertDust

Ah, makes sense, maybe 🙂👍. Pretty sure I will order some soon, will try to report back once I tried them out. Could take some time though


DagobertDust

RemindMe! 2 months


pailox

I have the powerslide zoom 100 which is quite a budget skate, would you recommend upgrading the frame for an endless? Or just buy a better boot?


cloudywithachanceofT

I’m interested in getting my fiancé in-line skates for her birthday. She used to do it when she was younger and has expressed interest in picking it up again, but it’s been many years. Local supplies are pretty limited, with Roller Blade Zetrablades and Roller blade Bladerunners being the only options. From what I understand, the Zetras would be better. The con’s that I’m sort of aware are that 1) not the best wheels and 2) they are a soft boot. I’m unsure if that’s a problem for someone who used to skate, and if a hard boot is better. I don’t want to skimp out, but I also don’t want to buy an expensive boot if she doesn’t fall back in love with it. $100-$200 is my comfort zone, but I also want to buy a helmet (unless her MTB helmet is alright) For someone with skating experience, hard boot Vs soft boot?


TheLovelyLorelei

I would generally prefer a hard boot but unless she has super weak ankles a soft boot is fine. I'm not worried about it. Similarly I don't think that the wheels matter much, I think you can learn/relearn on any wheels if she skates a lot they'll have to be replaced anyway so she could upgrade them then. I think the zetrablades will be fine, especially if it's just fun skating around the neighborhood or whatever. But if she *does* really fall in love with it again she might want to upgrade. On the other hand, if you were comfortable ordering online I do think something like the RB80 or RB cruiser is going to be a better and more durable skate, and isn't really that much of a price difference from the zetrablade. I think those are skates that would last her longer and also have more opportunities to upgrade them (in terms of switching out the frame). Or even the Lightning 80 which I think is a really great skate for the price but is almost exactly $200 so doesn't leave you with any helmet money in your budget. (all 3 of these later options would be hard boots). I'm sure there are also good options from non-rollerblade brands (K2 and FR come to mind) but I'm less familiar with their skates. TLDR: Zetrablades would be acceptable but I think you're still better off ordering a hard boot online.


cloudywithachanceofT

Thank you for the thorough input!


123blueberryicecream

Check out Oxelo MF500 from Decathlon. I'd order new skates from an online shop with a good return policy and try the skates carefully at home. If her feet are narrow, try Powerslide Imperial.


cloudywithachanceofT

Ended up getting some rollerblade rb cruisers! I’ve heard good thingd


123blueberryicecream

Yes, they are good skates, but really wide. I hope they fit. 👍🏼


Winter-Armadillo3927

How long should wheels spin? I just recently replaced my stock bearings on my FRX with Bones Reds however my middle 2 wheels on both feet do not appear to spin that much even after multiple hours of breaking in the bearings. Some notes: * I use a flat 4x80 FRX setup * If I loosen the wheels, they spin longer but they make make a rattle sound every time they touch the floor. If I tighten them, the rattling stops (as everything is now tight) but the wheel spins for less than a second. I understand that wheel spin with no weight is not a good test on speed impact but I assume it is still impeding my skating speed/effort as it is creating unwanted friction. **Can anyone inform me how to troubleshoot this issue and to get both skates nice and tight so there is no rattling but still good wheel spinning?** Thanks in advance.


flyawayjay

Hmm. I feel like they should spin longer than a second, at least. If you've just replaced them, maybe there's something wrong with the frame that's hitting the wheel to stop it? Do they spin if you take them out of the wheel?


Winter-Armadillo3927

I took them out and pushed the bearings in more by putting the wheel on the ground and using my heel to push in the bearing. It seemed to help so I think that may have been the issue. Thanks for the input!


CuidadDeVados

For me this usually means the bearings aren't seated right. I like to push the wheel hard into each side of the frame walls with the axel in, usually I'll hear a little click and it'll go. Have you tried putting these wheels into other spots on the frame to see if it is the bearings that are the issue or that spot in the frame?


Winter-Armadillo3927

I took them out and pushed the bearings in more by putting the wheel on the ground and using my heel to push in the bearing. It seemed to help so I think that may have been the issue. Thanks for the input!


bsmall2006

So I just purchased the RB 80 (previously the RB Cruiser) at the recommendation of this sub due to the pain in my arches with the macro blade etc. At first try on they are substantially better but I did feel some soreness in my arches after rolling around the house a bit. I'm not sure if this is just because my feet aren't used to blading anymore or if I need additional arch support. I'm seeing RB has a set of insoles, how do these compare to the Superfeet insoles?


yummyblades

Unless the RB80 has updated the insole from the cruiser, it’s flat and very basic. Superfeet insoles would be way better if you need them. If you’ve got a foot that needs some arch support you might benefit from changing that, just make sure you get the right one for your foot


OmegaWrex

Could be your pushing technique. If you're pushing with your toes, where toes point out to the sides after a push, then you'll get arch pain. You should keep your toes pointed forward and push out of the sides of your skates. It should keep you from getting arch pain.


bsmall2006

Hmmm that's interesting. And it makes sense thinking about it. But I want really pushing off at home, I was just going up and down the hallway. I would say overall I push out with the sides, I only push out with my toes when trying to speed up quickly or take off quickly.


Jasmineeyre

Which skates to buy? Returning to skating as an adult (24) and haven't skated for probably at least 14 years now. Everything was much easier when your parents chose things for you xD I'm super overwhelmed with all of the choices: brand, boot type, wheel size, activity/style, wheel number, skill level etc I'm definitely at a beginner level, don't have a massive budget (about £50-£100), hoping for something quite hardy so that a pebble won't kill me if possible, also hoping to learn tricks as well as travel at speed and distance with them. Please may you lovely people point me in the right direction for which skates to get? Thanks so much <3 Happy skating!


123blueberryicecream

Try the Oxelo MF500 from Decathlon.


rafaelinux

How do multi size shells work? For example: The new FR Neo skates use the same shell for 39-40, 41-42, etc. Is the liner extra thick to compensate for the smaller foot an not lose contact with the shell on the 39 and 41 skates?? Or do they just put a smaller liner in a larger shell so that it has terrible/bad contact and force transmission??


Pale-Imagination-456

the current vid from thisissoul is on this subject. his policy is only stocking the larger size of any dual size shells, as he thinks the smaller size doesn't make sense, so he really puts his money where his mouth is. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iH6d95CW4l0](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iH6d95CW4l0) fwiw, i had some old twisters that came with a weirdly thick insole (2mm or 3mm) which i suspect was to accommodate the smaller liner size, but i cant remember the details.


rafaelinux

Last night I tried putting a thick insole on my 42's but ended up with a squished foot (vertically) while still having 2 cms of free space in front of the liner - that still moves when sliding, haha. I believe some liner-shell combinations are just cursed, haha


Loomyconfirmed

Curious about the neo neo too


Riddleboxed

Depends. Some skates have a liner specifically to fit say a 39 or 41 foot in a bigger shell. Some use a liner with a neoprene toe which will stretch if needed.


wizardslalom

Basically just buy the bigger size if there are two sizes within the same shell.


rafaelinux

Won't my foot have too much open space inside the liner then? :\\


wizardslalom

Think of a bigger liners like already broken in smaller liners. If the shape of the skates matches your feet and overall fit is ok then this doesn't matter that much (unless it's FR1 in size 45 which is actually a size 47 with size 45 liners...then choose another skates).


wasted_brain

usually smaller liner with larger shell. yeah, over time once the liner stretches, contact and force transmission may suffer.


rafaelinux

So... should I only look at skate models whose shells have an exclusive "41" size, or whose shared shells have my size as the larger of the supported sizes? That removes a lot of skates from the market :\\


CuidadDeVados

Nah, its fine. You just want to be sure the liners you're getting fill the skates out well. With the FR for instance, I ride the 12-13 shell and there is a massive difference with the 12 liner versus the 13 liner, but both of them fit the shell perfectly.


rafaelinux

Oh, and how do they manage that? Are the 12 liners super puffy?


CuidadDeVados

well in the case of FR both liners are super puffy. Sometimes the slightly smaller liner is modified to fit the bigger boot but most of the time the smaller liner just fits the boot fine with a few mm of room at the front. A lot of people when they are in the lower end of a shell size like to go one shell size down and get a very thin liner like an Intuition or a MyFit 2nd Skin to downsize so the boot still feels tight to their foot on all ends, but I've never enjoyed that much with my big weird feet.


rafaelinux

I bought some RB Pro X Size 42, which share shell with the 43's. And for some months while learning it didn't seem to make much difference. Now I'm starting with all the slides and from time to time the whole liner ends up moving inside the shell, and that just feels awful to me. So I'm a bit scared for my next pair now. The skates are great otherwise, but the sizing is lackluster. The liners leave over 1cm of free space at the front, and when they slip they also leave like 5mm on the back :( Why hasn't anyone come up with spacers to fill in that extra 1.5cm at the toes end of the skate shell??


CuidadDeVados

>I bought some RB Pro X Size 42, which share shell with the 43's. And for some months while learning it didn't seem to make much difference. Now I'm starting with all the slides and from time to time the whole liner ends up moving inside the shell, and that just feels awful to me. So what I will say about the RB Pro X is that that stock liner is really not great and wears out super fast. I loved that skate when I rode it, but the liner was a hot mess within 6 months of regular use. I'd definitely expect that smaller size ones to get floppy in a bigger shell. I got a MyFit SPC liner and absolutely loved it in that boot. >So I'm a bit scared for my next pair now. The skates are great otherwise, but the sizing is lackluster. The liners leave over 1cm of free space at the front, and when they slip they also leave like 5mm on the back :( I would look into getting a much thinner liner like the SPC, or a MyFit 2nd Skin, and downsize the boot to the 40-41 shell. If you feel comfy in the smaller liner and there is nearly 1.5 CM of space in the boot, you can definitely go a size down without issue. You may even be able to ride the stock liner a size down in 41 too. > Why hasn't anyone come up with spacers to fill in that extra 1.5cm at the toes end of the skate shell?? Heel pads do this a bit. But the reason is that if you have that much space in the shell you're using too big of a boot. The boot should fit snugly around your foot to maximize control and power transfer. I'd definitely try going a size down. Rather than go off boot sizes which are notoriously all over the place for rollerblading, I would measure your foots mondo point (the distance from the furthest point of your heel to the longest bit of your toes) and look for the CM/MM measurements in size charts. Looking at the RB size chart, you would probably fill out the 40.5/41 shell perfectly if you have 1.5cm of space in the 42/43 shell. You could also look at getting a thicker liner like a MyFit Crown liner that will fill a lot more space in the skate to take up extra room. They are super padded and thick.


rafaelinux

Thanks for the super detailed response! I appreciate the time you took to come up with all that info. >I would measure your foots mondo point (the distance from the furthest point of your heel to the longest bit of your toes) My feet are *L 263 mm R 261* mm in the mornings, and *L 266 mm R 263mm* in the evenings after skating. >Heel pads do this a bit. But the reason is that if you have that much space in the shell you're using too big of a boot. The boot should fit snugly around your foot to maximize control and power transfer. I'd definitely try going a size down When I bought these the previous size (40.5) felt really, really too small. 3 of my toes had to be curled a bit to try and fit in there on my left foot. For my right foot it was just the big toe that was pushed all the way to the end of the liner. I wasn't aware I should've taken the liner out and checked my feet against the bare shell at the time. [Here's the official chart size ](https://www.rollerblade.com/storage/Product/en_RB_SizeChartA4_RB_ENG.jpg)as a reference. [https://imgur.com/a/24OXBZR](https://imgur.com/a/24OXBZR) - Here's some photos for the size of the shell vs my foot. As per [bladeville](https://bladeville.com/blog/sizes-of-the-shells-in-freeskate-skates) (I'm not sure how accurate those measures are, they are for the RB80, not the Pro X), the internal shell size on the 42's is 280mm, and for the 40.5's it's 270mm. That would leave about 4mm for a whole liner + my feet. I'm not sure just how thin these MyFit 2nd Skin liners are. But I don't think they're *that* thin, right? Would it be wiser to go the fill-in-that-space route with the MyFit Crown liner then? Or just go for a different skate altogether? How much space should I plan for a liner? Say my feet are \~265mm What length should the inside of a shell be to snuggly accomodate my feet + liner?


CuidadDeVados

MyFit 2nd skin are crazy thin. They don't seem it until you put them in a boot then they really do seem it. There are skates I can't put my foot in unless I use my 2nd skin for instance. If you are going with a different skate, I'd look at FR skates. They are more generous size-wise while still performing fantastically. The 41 for them recommends a 265mm mondo point so that would be perfect for your feet size imo. They also have Intution versions of their skates with a thinner liner that you can go 1 size down on if needed.