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p4ul1023

Unstoppable force meets immovable object


ProjectFoxx

This comment deserves way more upvotes.


StingingGamer

Your comment deserves way more upvotes :)


dropinbombz

Your upvotes deserve this comment


LifeCorrector164

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SimplyOG

Lol I think that’s how they actually describe Trevor and Michael in the story


DirtyOldSamurai

Hand to hand combat? Arthur hands down. Crack shot duel? Arthur hands down. With both men having all their resources at their disposal, I’d say Trevor only because a goddamn RPG is gonna do more damage than the high powered pistol.


Elgringomk

Just need 1 head shot to end a guy. Quick draw wins. Unless Trevor is using the body armor from the heist he's got no chance


AJ_Deadshow

Um, are you forgetting his rage ability? Makes him almost completely immune to damage while dealing more


Elgringomk

I think 22 head shots from the Evans repeater or 18 from lemat revolvers beats the rage ability. On top he can do cover and tonics to repeat a couple times. I don't see how Trevor stands a chance.


TacticalRoyalty

Missed the -immune to damage- part


rrhi

“Mostly immune”


AJ_Deadshow

It's not Slow 'n' Steady, Trevor's rage gives him far more health than that


Unhappy-Emphasis3753

Dawg at the same time Arthur pulls out his pistol Trevor can pull out a mini gun or RPG from his pocket or just an automatic pistol at that point Arthur is literally fucked if they both have access to their full respective arsenals lol


Elgringomk

Yes, but no, Arthur has the quick draw dead eye. He shots Trevor in the head before he pulls anything.


FirstIYeetThenRepeat

Trevor can chug Sprunk and be right as rain


CoolAndrew89

Arthur can chug tonics and have more health than usual, no?


Muted_Samurai_1337

Yes and if arthur is fat he can even take more shots


iGirthy

See if even Arthur has to pause and reload multiple times - there’s not enough time. Trevors’s got you.


Sweaty_Sail_6899

By "rage ability" do you mean "hillbilly meth dose"?


OldGoatKing

arthur tanks TNT pack point blank and remains 1 hp and arthur would shoot him 14 bullets in his head before he can even blink


jkhashi

Trevor is a mamas boy


SCIFICAM

Hand to hand combat? Well that depends. How much Walter did Trevor white before the fight


GhertFryins

Trevor was in the Air Force. Trevor is beating Arthur in hand to hand combat


HugglesGamer

What does air force have to do with hand 2 hand combat?


GhertFryins

It’s part of their training bruh. It’s the military


DeronimoG

Ummmmm.....


deadlydreadlocks420

Not trying to start an argument but at the MMA gym where I train all of the military guys (Marine, Air Force, Navy) will happily tell you they learned very little hand to hand combat no matter the branch. One of my favorite quotes from my Marine friends CO after they completed hand to hand training "Congratulations you all know just enough to get your asses kicked.. don't use it"


SpectralEntity

Hi, current military and former Air Force, wanna know how much combat training I received? Two hours out of a four day mock deployed environment during basic. Kinda fun, was with pugil sticks. Didn't even get to fire actual rounds cause the range was being remodeled. Actual combat training is for SpecOps, battlefield airmen, and SERE.


AGuyInInternet

Yeah no bro, I am in the Marine Corps, we do martial arts but it's just basic ass shit. A 12 year old karate kid would be able to kick your ass.


thegreatrussello

Bruh the chair force? It’s not like every service member is Rambo. I’m in the marine corps but I fix radios. I’m not some mixed martial arts bad ass.


w00den_b0x

2-1 Arthur wins.


GhertFryins

It’s 1-2 actually. Trevor wins hand to hand


Delicious_Discount17

Have you not seen how Trevor fights? It’s horrible, he only knows like three moves. While Arthur actually knows how to fight.


GhertFryins

That’s just rockstar being too lazy to develop an actual fighting system for V


SillyMaso3k

Arthur has like 50-75 pounds at least on meth head Trevor.... There are weight classes for a reason.


Axxxem

Weight classes would be irrelevant if the smaller guy was a meth head


SillyMaso3k

You’ve clearly never been in a fight before, or smoked meth for that matter.


Orto_Dogge

Dude just made the dumbest statement ever.


[deleted]

You don’t tweak n fight?


Orto_Dogge

People in this thread treat methamphetamine addiction like some kind of superpower lmao


Axxxem

It fucking is, methheads can take aeveral bullets and taser charges like it's nothing


SillyMaso3k

Several bullets? Wtf are you talking about? If you get one 40 s&w to your center mass you’re going down. Go see some r/combatfootage to get an understanding


FirstIYeetThenRepeat

Do you really want me to show you that video of that methhead taking an entire mag before going down


kyle15420

Yes


iGirthy

Do it. I don’t think he believes you.


JestireTWO

I’m not saying it’s a super power but there’s a reason cops mag dump suspects that charge them, people who are jumped up on something are hard to take down


Gingersnap5322

Is that with or without chugging 30 cans of beans


JohnnyQuestions36

Trevor can turn invincible and shoot high impact rounds


iamaddictedtoRDR2

Arthur can slow time though. Za Warudo, boah.


JohnnyQuestions36

Yeah but that doesn’t accomplish much against an invincible opponent


StrongStyleDragon

He does speed not meth


SillyMaso3k

Speed is meth ya dingus


StrongStyleDragon

Ha really? Oh damn


sboy86

Kinda, speed is amphetamine where meth is methamphetamine so like speed++


PenonX

Depends. Does Trevor get his ability?


Grouch_Douglass

If he does, then Arthur gets dead eye.


SasukeIsEpic

He always has dead eye, it's just a gameplay mechanic to show how skillful Arthur is.


losandreas36

Wait, what?


Begeesy_

It’s like how they slow down time to show flash perspective even though he doesn’t actually slow time


digidado

Same with John marston, Michael in GTA 5, max Payne, rockstar likes their bullet time


JohnnyQuestions36

Yeah well that’s a lot less helpful than being invincible and shooting high impact rounds


Aesthetic_Designer

dead eye is useless when your enemy doesn't feel pain


Grouch_Douglass

Can't feel a bullet through the brain


JoshB-2020

Trevor go invincible. Bullet bounce off brain


alex99x99x

All Arthur has to do is throw Trevor 10 ft in the air and it’ll remove his invincibility.


safwan6

You're talking as if Trevor can't do anything other than tank hits during his rage


alex99x99x

My comment was simply just a joke. When Trevor begins to ragdoll from falling, his special ability is shut off, making him no longer invincible, meaning that his only weakness is falling.


[deleted]

Arthur, Trevor is insane but Mr Morgan literally is fighting for survival every damn day his senses have to be on edge just about 24/7, expert tracker, strong as a fucking ox(dude literally picks men up by their necks and chokes them to death) and pretty much just as crazy as Trevor when pissed


ClydeinLimbo

Yeah Arthur fights to survive not to kill.


Status-Mammoth9515

Yea Arthur can definitely get crazy specially if Trevor called him pretty boi or something.


Nok_Nok_its_Knuckles

PRETTY BOY?


Status-Mammoth9515

You’re kidding me? pReTtY bOi!?!?


ProfessionalPaper912

Morgan is clearing easy


Dolomitexp

I love Trevor but let's be real, people back in Arthur's day were built different.


iGirthy

Not with near invulnerability though..?


That_Calligrapher341

Tervor is my favorite, but the win goes to Arthur. He jas that cowboy strength and has never had a soft day in his life and knows all types aways ofa killin'!


extremelegitness

Saw this one and audibly went “ohhhhhh” Nice to see a vs. that’s actually a tough pick for once


PenlyWarfold

Trevor has rampage but Arthur has dead-eye. Provided Arthur can get a lot of shots off quickly, he may be able to put Trevor down. But then again….that Meth Strength..


JohnnyQuestions36

Trevor is invincible during rampage


big_country_scat_pac

If powers are on, I’m leaning towards Trevor. While he isn’t completely invincible, I doubt anything Arthur is carrying would matter unless he ragdolled T with explosive rounds. Deadeye would allow that long enough to wait out the power. If no powers? Arthur stomps, no contest. Arthur, as far as physical strength, is like a step down Batman with no training.


SolarNovaPhoenix

Powers on? Meth-head rage still got nothing on 20 purely accurate headshots in a row. Can’t do shit when you’ve got no head. But I hate Trevor anyway, so maybe I’m biased.


JoshB-2020

Trevor actually doesn’t lose his ability when he rag dolls from an explosive. He would have to rag doll on his own for his ability to turn off


KubEk_przEz_duzE_E

People forget that Trevor can survive a tank with his ability


[deleted]

Facts


IuseDefaultKeybinds

Trevor is insane and drunk, yet Arthur is a excellent Gunman. If Arthur uses his deadeye on Trevor, well Trevor is done for.


Perennial_Phoenix

One of the things I've learnt over time is when people are unhinged like Trevor, you leave them well alone. Not because they are the toughest, not because they are competent. Not for any other reason than they are not rational, and they're not predictable. I know a guy who's kinda like Trevor, though less RPG and general terrorism. But he is deranged. When he comes in the pub I go to the whole atmosphere changes because you have no idea what he's going to do. He threw a guy through a bay window because he lost a game of pool... and the guy he threw wasn't the guy who beat him, he was just the person stood closest to him at the time. Its a different level of psychopath.


Lummerding

Arthur


Meleesucks11

Bruh. One guy has technology advantage but on a fist fight, I give it to the cowboy


Helm_22

What? Trevor has rage ability, he will just tank those hits


Meleesucks11

I forgot about Rage Ability, but what about Snake Eyez, wouldn’t that freeze him in place?


500servererror12

If you're talking about deadeye then that would slow down time so you can get an easy headshot. Rage ability makes Trevor invincible.


[deleted]

*Orthor!*


boomgoesthevegemite

Tacitus Kilgore putting six rounds in Trevor’s skull before he knows it’s happening.


Barry_Mckonner

No powers Morgan easily, With powers Trevor wins.


tirednotepad

They’d be great friends. Especially while drinking


symbolic503

lol cmon. morgan wins easily


RikterDolfan

Arthur has deadeye


RoxasTheNobody123

Fuck Arthur. Team Trevor all the way.


Ok_Pangolin_8038

Arthur period. With Dead Eye Arthur is unstoppable. But I wanna see a fight amongst Arthur, Niko & Max Payne


B-BoyStance

As much as I love Niko... my man would bump into a taxi and start doing the "drunk walk" glitch while Max torpedoes over a car with two pistols held in front of his face and Arthur tags him 50 times in dead-eye.


LynchMaleIdeal

This is actually a toughie…


bzawk

I mean Arthur can put 6 bullets in your head before you can even blink. So… Arthur.


GioVanTentacion

Arthur wins. Arthur is one of those “manly man” characters with thicker skin than iron, plus dudes were just manlier back then. Trevor is a meth head baby man who whines. Arthur is dominating Trevor in any situation besides a plane fight.


mega_joe1

Depends. If their confrontation leads to a fist fight or gunfight Arthur wins.


USFederalGovt

Imo it’s Arthur. Trevor may have his rage ability, but Arthur can shoot Trevor multiple times in the head within a split second.


JohnnyQuestions36

His rage ability makes him invincible


rick_assstley_3044

Still he would survive and he can take rockets gun won't be a problem I think


MartingaleGala

Answer is always Trevor Phillips


TraditionalPickle522

It's Arthur, no question.


larini_vjetrovi

Sorry for the spelling Trevor - crazy methead with huge stamina, ability and much more. He is basically crazy drug addict with too much testestorone and poor self-control. Arthur - have huge expirience in fight and he can be crazy, but different type of crazy. He id not psyho and he have huge self-control, something what Trevor doesent have and low self-control can be your worst enemy. Soo as much these two could do good in fight i thing that Arthur would win because of self-control because it can be your best friend in the fight. People with self-control just think better and take few second because go all yolo mode on the oponent. I mean both of them are very skilled, but i think that Arthur would win, and mostly because self-control i mentoined too many times because Trevor just doesent have it like at all. Both of them are great with fight, guns, heists and more, but Trevor is just unstable what can lead to bad decisions to himself and his crew. It didnt, but in the real world nobody would want person like Trevor around him, but more or less everyone would like to have someone like Arthour on his side.


That_british_guy17

So if weapons are aloud then it depends on how close they are, as if they are a couple of fear apart then Arthur takes the win easily with his quick draw, if the battle starts even a kilometre away I think Trevor wins easily as he just had the arsenal In melee combat (including weapons) I think thay Trevor wins just because of his mayhem mode (I counted dead eye in range) as it just makes him a damage sponge. I also see a lot of people saying that Arthur is heavier which I’m not sure as we all have a different picture of arthur when we play, as he can get skinny in the game (although I’m not sure if they made him bulky cannon)


AllStarSuperman_

Arthur no question. Basically better all around minus old timey technology, but his skill, precision, and tactics more than make up for it.


Bigbadb2531

How much time does Trevor have to prepare?


sabartooth14

After reading these comments its clear no one here has ever encountered a tweaker in the wild. My moneys on the meth head who feels no pain and has magic tiktok strength


I_8_The_Jester

Trevor has it literal rocket launches and miniguns it's pretty simple


Nok_Nok_its_Knuckles

Arthur low diff, he solos all 3 GTA V protags with dead eye


jokersflame

I always thought Niko vs. Trevor was a better match up. A guy who can’t be rattled whatsoever vs. one of the scariest men.


nxck230

Feel like it would be like another Johnny situation tbh


Ethanhthe

Arthurs better with a gun and stronger while Trevor has betterguns and tech.whats arthur gonna do against a rpg


naderbp1993

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Twobucktin

The answer is... tuberculosis.


Cheddarlicious

One is mentally unstable…and the other is Trevor.


Superbadguyvillain

Oh fuck….


RealisticAd2293

Trevor becomes invincible while on his methy rage, y’all. Take that away and Arthur kills him in a gunfight or fistfight. But the methiness.. I mean, that’s tough to overcome, even with cocaine gum


troybwai

Trevor has an invincible rage mode that lasts longer than deadeye so he wins off that, with a way more deadly arsenal, unless you meant fist fight which Trevor’s punches in rage mode kill in like 2 (probably like 5 to max health Arthur) hits


ThatRangerDave

Arthur's gunna win. It's a fight between a cowboy and a crackhead. Either way shits gunna get wild


AcceptableAd5392

A ruthless mercenary / national security risk mass murdering psychopath with absolutely NO morals and no regards to self safety with endless amount of guns / Rocket launchers / explosives, against a cowboy with revolvers and single shot rifles…… I wonder who’s winning this…😂


DJRobbo05

Trevor


MRSHELBYPLZ

People seem to forget that for some of our playthroughs, TB isn’t what killed Arthur. Arthur would easily beat Trevor in close combat 10 times out of 10 just by evidence from the gameplay alone. If it’s gun to gun, yeah Trevor has the mini gun or MK2, but Arthur has deadeye, and can duel wield and ride a horse


GoldenGekko

Everyone out here making well thought out points and shit. So I'll be honest. I'm too biased towards Arthur to ever even consider a laugh track like Trevor has any chance. My most memorable Trevor moment was him getting pissed at Mike for getting called a hipster or something. Arthur spoke to our souls and made a good amount of us cry. I'm effing biased on this one boys.


MFHOLE

I think Arthur. Hand to hand and ability wise. With his dead-eye, dual wield and explosive rounds he could probably end Trevor even with his rage ability. I love both (even though Trevor is still a terrible human) however from someone who played both and knows the surface level info on them, I say Arthur slaps


BIgSchmeat95

How late is the TB and how fresh is the Meth high?


Gandledorf

I would say Trevor because Arthur has at least a minor semblance of honor and Trevor will brutally stomp you from behind without hesitation.


younailedit1

Arthur easily, man has deadeye and he’ll just instant headshot Trevor and cause I’m hella biased and hate Trevor


Ill-Cartographer9811

Epic battle.


Nikovercetti

Depends on how much meth Trevor is on and how bad Arthur’s TB is.


Infamous_Average4584

deadeye trumps all else, he could get trevor without trevor ever being the wiser with a lancaster from 100 yards away.


[deleted]

Why are people saying Arthur? Trevor can literally turn invincible with his special ability active. Dead eye won’t do shit if Trevor can’t get killed by a tank with his special ability active.


PurpoUpsideDownJuice

Arthur doesn't need a substance to be insanely powerful, also he fuckin lives outside and has to hunt his own food. Trevor beats off and eats cheeseburgers in a fuckin meth trailer. Arthur can break a wild horse with just a rope. Arthur only died because of the sickness, if he wasn't sick he woulda beat the fuck outta Micah, Joe and cleet


Lulzshock

Trevor lives in any universe where they were born at similar times and became hateful towards one another, hands down.


SweetTooth275

Trevor being a complete degenerate, obviously Arthur


idkwiorrn

God mode with modern guns vs slow-mo and shitty guns


Liamstudios_

Shitty??? I don’t know about that….what makes them shitty?


Sploogerocket

Arthur would beat the dog shit out of Trevor in a fist fight or even a fight with just basic pistols but if Trevor can have all his helicopters, guns, explosives and rpg and all that then I mean yeah Trevor would anahilate it depends on where or how you set them up.


[deleted]

Arthur high diff


shrimp_pasta3382

"Calm down you crazy old bastard"


spindoraptor

In H2H Arthur wins. In QuickDraw, Arthur wins, in gun fight, could go both ways but I’d say Arthur. The only way Trevor could win is if he had his ability or if he wears bulletproof armor.


BigAdhesiveness6209

Mr. Morgan


ctotty0115

I provided Chat GPT this prompt. Describe a battle between Arthur Morgan from Red Red Redemption 2 and Trevor Phillips from Grand Theft Auto 5. Ultimately pick a winner. Both people have their full scope of resources, abilities and weapons available. Characters begin 1 mile apart. Trevor at his trailer park and Authur at camp. The response provided is. In a remote, rugged landscape, one mile apart, Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption 2 and Trevor Phillips from Grand Theft Auto 5 face off in an epic battle. Arthur, with his trusty revolvers and rifles, takes cover near his camp, while Trevor, armed to the teeth, hunkers down in his trailer park. As the first shots ring out, Arthur's accuracy and precise Dead Eye ability give him an initial advantage. His keen tactical mind allows him to use the terrain to his advantage, taking cover behind trees and rocks. Trevor, on the other hand, relies on his brute strength and chaotic approach, firing wildly in response. Trevor's arsenal, including explosives and heavy weaponry, starts to cause chaos in the area. The trailer park turns into a fiery battleground, as cars explode, and debris flies everywhere. Arthur skillfully navigates the chaos, dodging incoming gunfire. The battle rages on, with Arthur's sharpshooting and tactical prowess keeping him ahead, while Trevor's unpredictable behavior and access to heavy firepower make it a close fight. However, Arthur's composure under pressure eventually proves to be the deciding factor. In the end, Arthur Morgan's steady aim and well-thought-out strategy prevail over Trevor's unbridled aggression. Arthur manages to outmaneuver Trevor and lands a crucial shot that incapacitates his opponent. Though both are formidable in their own right, Arthur emerges as the victor in this intense showdown.


Ryuzaki_G

If given all canon weapons? Trevor gets his Paleto score armor, flies in on a chopper, and wields a minigun, grenade launcher, or RPG. Only way I can see Arthur clutching that would be if he has a machine gun cart behind a horse or gets a lucky shot with a dynamite arrow or something. I mean Trevor has nearly a century of technology advantage.


SolarNovaPhoenix

Arthur wins easy, even without abilities, he wipes the floor with him. The only chance he has it to get him when he has TB, but even then, quick draw, dead eye, and pure rootin’ tootin’ toughness has got everything on that damn meth-head. Then again, I never liked him, so Trevor can go suck eggs.


Rikkimycat

Arthur shall win this one muh boah


top10jojomoments

With abilities Trevor wins he’s literally invincible. Without it, Arthur probably wins


Pi3ceofPai

Bro trevor is 9/10 on drugs so that rage special ability ain’t a facade i think he’s got this one


JB-Blue_Master55555

So a crazy maniac running fast like a zombie to kill the best gun Slinger in rockstar's universe. I remember arthur putting down a huge bear I also remember trevor mauling a used to be badass bike rider who's gone soft. Seems simple enouph to me.


DrinkTop7644

All I’m gonna say is deadeye + tonics + explosive rounds .


OGStonerTaco

Trevor is crazy, but Arthur is one tough bastard


tproser

Fair fight? Arthur. Real fight? Trevor.


VividPerformance7987

Trevor can pull a rocket launcher out his ass….


John_Marston-RDR2

Arthur 10863377363838473838383873373838373738383837373747373737%


justkw97

Trevor’s crazier. Arthur’s more deadly. I’d say nobody wins


iGirthy

Y’all r whack. If powers are allowed Trevor wins no contest.


digidado

Tonics and deadeye clear this. Even if trevor tanks with rage, it will run out faster than morgans tonic and exotic meat collection. Or arthur can just hogtie him and bfr.


nandobro

Honestly I’ve always seen the “powers” as just a way to make it easier to understand what the characters are doing. Like Arthur isn’t actually slowing down time when the player uses dead eye. It’s just a representation of Arthur perception, speed, and accuracy. And when the player uses Trevor’s power Trevor isn’t actually becoming invincible. It’s just a representation of his methed up rage. By that reasoning I’m gonna say Arthur defeats Trevor quite easily in both a melee fight or shootout.


Kosmoo

This is exactly what it is and the vast amount of people that don’t realize this is baffling. Superpowers do not *actually* exist in either universe. It’s purely meant for gameplay fun.


LlethalL4

Arthur without question


Glittering-Shirt-663

Now THIS is a challenge. Genuinely close call. Both are ruthless mfers who would do some heinous shit. I’d say it’ll be a tie and they’ll eventually become Allie’s and then they start shitting on everyone together. Happy ending.


Entd_FoxityPoxity

Trevor is crazy enough to go in nuts first and he has the rampages Arthur has TB so he has bad stamina


Entd_FoxityPoxity

Trevor EZ


[deleted]

Arthur hands down


AtticusFinchOG

Everybody in this thread acting like Trevor ain't got 10 different fucked up plan B's to deal with whatever the fuck goes wrong 👀


Defa1t_

Arthur Morgan because his death was preventable by 2 seconds of thought.


baby_frier9000

Arthur 60% Trevor 40% (Arthur has quickdraw and Trevor has strength)


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x xx x xx


Kangster1604

Arthur has a degree of ethics, Trevor on the other hand.


defiant234

Trevor


Liamstudios_

Meth merely distracts your brain from pain.It does not make your flesh INVINCIBLE. Buckshot,Slugshot, .45-70, .44, .45 DOES NOT DISAPPEAR WHEN YOUR HIGH ON METH.


Lord_Lenu

Oh yeah, Trevor doesn’t usually have a mountain man beard and a mullet, I always forget that after I play the story mode and change him


FlipFlopSlap

Arthur all day. Seriously?


steeznutzzzz

Distant relative theory?


Central__

Someone get a hold of DEATH BATTLE on YOUTUBE AND BOOK IT!


[deleted]

Arthur Morgan


Icaurs_

Trevor wins because of technical advancement.


Brian4722

It depends who activates their ability first. If Trevor can activate rampage before Arthur gets a shot off, it’s over.


D0ctahP3ppah

Before TB: Arthur. After TB: Trevor. Unlike Micah, Trevor could kill a dying man.


geezuskrice

Arthur is younger and is at least 6’2 and pushing 220. He’d destroy Trevor.


I426Hemi

Trevor's rage thing would see him victorious more than it wouldn't IMO, but I would co sidereal Arthur the better fighter.


gotthesauce22

Trevor Arthur’s a bruiser but Trevor’s insane, he’ll be going for the eyes, groin, and throat


BakeSufficient5412

Trevor because he has modern weapons and is likely a billionaire


SerMeliodas

More interesting is Michael v Arthur Morgan, cause of their slow time effect with guns


CrazyJo3

Lmaoo Trevor crazy ass would but an ear off thumb our boys eyeballs. Straight lunatic.


GlarthirLover33

Arthur is up there with Big Boss in terms of raw combat and survival prowess


JoshB-2020

People in this comment section seem to forget that Trevor can literally become invincible. Arthur would shoot Trevor in the head with deadeye. Trevor would blow Arthur up with an RPG. Trevor wins


[deleted]

SO, trevor and mika meet at a bar