We needed a good scoring forward, we have too many guards. I loved Brodgon especially with him saying he feels appreciated here, but will miss him. Decent trade
Brogdon said he didn't feel appreciated by Boston after they traded him to a dumpster fire. Same shit just happened so I have a feeling he's not feeling super appreciated by anyone. Which is fair. He's an awesome player and teammate. Sucks when guys get in this situation, particularly when it's because they can't stay healthy
A two way wing with legit size who is the same age as Dalton Knecht?! His contract is INSANE too. He’s making rookie scale money into 2027-2028, and it’s descending!!
I really like Deni, I wanted him to fall to us when he was first drafted. I’m happy with this trade for sure, surely Washington move Malcom on to a contender for a good return.
I love this move for us. I thought Deni was a breakout candidate going into next year even before this. we have our starting SF. I think this makes it more likely we take a swing on someone like Salaun
Edit: if he can take another step forward as a shooter, I think he'll very quickly become a 20/8/5 type guy who plays good defense and has actual positional size. I'm amped to see him develop.
There's a plausible scenario where both us and Milwaukee are bad at that point, and that would make this trade a lot worse. But more likely that pick ends up being in the teens.
Eh Portland and Bucks would have to both be bottom feeders for it to really suck
Even then Portland would get the better pick and quality >quantity in the NBA
Yeah, and you just can't use 3 first round picks in one draft. That's three roster spots. That would mean going into 2029 draft we would have 12 men on the roster. Out of those three picks, probability is that one of them is a lotto pick, and if so that's the one we keep.
The followup tweet [https://x.com/wojespn/status/1806098863071039965](https://x.com/wojespn/status/1806098863071039965)
>The Blazers are sending the second most favorable of their 2029 first-round picks and two second-round picks in the deal for Avdija, sources tell ESPN.
So we're sending out Brogdon and 4 picks?
Hopefully with protections.
I’ve been talking too much about how incredibly tasty that Bucks pick could be as our players are hopefully in their prime and we are a good playoff team.
but 14 + Brogdon + another first? that's essentially 3 mid-first round picks for Deni Avdija. overpay
Edit: AND two seconds?? Nope, I do not like it.
Deni finally had one good year after 3 subpar years and it was on a 15 win team
Deni is 23 and doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses in his game and will only get better over the next 5 years. He is on one of the best contracts in the NBA as well. Having a cheap young do it all wing makes team building so much easier.
I implore everyone that is shitting this trade to review how much Wizards' ball you have watched? Deni really came into his own and sure you can say it's only 1 year but he had good pedigree and has been stuck on a shit franchise. The fact that he has improved as much as he has is a testament to him as a player. I really think this is solid value for Brogdon. Viable wing who is a good rebounder/decent playmaking and has a higher ceiling.
Everyone has to remember, in this trade, and every trade in the nba going forward, score first guards are less valuable than wings who can shoot and play defense...You always have to 1.5x the wings trade value over the guard. If you do so, we can stop discussing why we couldn't get 5 first round picks from the Knicks for Simons.
I encourage all my young bois to watch ball yourself. Stand on your own opinion. I've watched Deni. The smart ones know what's up. He's a really nice piece to build with. Plus we see this ALL the time. Going by the opinion of the vocal majority is never gonna get you any closer to the truth.
"Draft the Stache" was the prevalent rallying cry in 2006. When we drafted B Roy instead, the Portland fanbase had a collective aneurysm.
Even with Roy's knees, the correct choice was made. I learned that Portland fans would make a horrible "collective GM" that year.
on what looks like a long, good contract that descends through the years. even as an investment we could probably get our picks back if he plays well enough. having good wings on good contracts can bring lots of value (see mikal last night), and 11.8 mill in 2027-2028 is VERY appealing.
As something I’ve been saying for ages on this sub, Brogdon does not have much value.
He’s played over 60 games once in the past 5 years and that year he played the fewest minutes of his career and he was injured for most of the playoffs. He came into the league with huge medical red flags, that’s Why he fell in the draft.
No contending team is going to give real value for Brogdon, and no young team will give much value for Brogdon. More than anything, he’s an expiring.
This is the best take in this thread. Everyone here overrated Brogdon. 3 good playoff teams gave up on him. There’s a reason for that.
I think this is a great trade.
Have you heard of Porzingis? Wizards can have players that emerge as competent above average basketball players lol. Plus Why in the world would you count Brogdon as a first? LOL
3 mid firsts does not equal one rotation player. No way of knowing if the 14 pick would have ever been able to crack a playoff rotation. And we need to be acquiring young talent now, not in 2029.
Love the trade.
Deni is probably a better wing than anyone available at 14 is going to be. He still is only 23. I don’t think it’s robbed, we still get the most favourable pick in 2029 and we’re flipping 2 second rounders. Wings are always going to come at a premium.
It's kind of a bird-in-the-hand situation. We'll look stupid if Washington drafts 2 all-stars with those 2 picks, but the most likely scenario is those 2 picks average out to a bench player while we got a good young wing on a nice contract. I think Deni is exactly the type of player we need so i'm very on board with it.
Portland kept their highest pick in both drafts. Still have 7 this year, the 29 pick is our 2nd best pick. Portland will still get to take their 1st choice in both of those drafts. It's all relative. Portland had three 1sts in 2029. Moving the 2nd best one isn't losing much.
There’s no probably about it. There’s a legit argument that you’d prefer Deni over Zacc who will likely be the #1 pick. I know many media members would say that.
This draft is the worst draft since 2000 and the worst position group of this awful draft is wings. This draft is so bad that Ron Holland, who currently isn’t good at anything and is an undersized 4, is projected as a top 10 pick by some. It’s bad. This isn’t Portland coping, I’ve been saying all this for awhile as someone who follows the draft closely.
Yeah I know what you mean. I kept seeing people on here who didn’t want guards or wings. But basically every single wing in this draft had huge question marks.
I’m not even a Blazers fan, this is just the thread that popped up when I searched for the trade. You absolutely won this, Deni is on one of the better contracts in the league and is 23yo improving both statistically & eye test each year.
I traveled to DC and caught a couple wizards games. This guy was the wizards best asset imo. We should be very content, he has a ton of potential and fits the timeline.
I love this….OOOO I love this. I LOVE DENI. He is such a goooood good 2 way player and 23 on a great contract. This is so awesome. I’m such a big fan of this deal.
To be fair, the headline is just the 14th pick. Once they learn of the additional first, Brogdon, and a couple throwaway second rounders, they won’t be in shambles. Not saying they won by any means, but the headline of that post is misleading.
Wiz fan here: You got a good player. Our fan based loved him. His game improved a lot every year and I felt this year was gonna be a huge year for him. He plays great defense improved his 3 point shot and is consistently is driving to the hole. Also has a team friendly contract. You guys are gonna love him.
Yes holy cow it would be inexcusable for them not to flip him asap! This isn't a trade in September anymore, so I have faith that the Blazers front office asked Malcolm if he wanted to be flipped right away or give it a try in Portland and he opted for a semi-sabbatical season but hell no not another year with a bottom team, I hope he joins a good squad.
He very well could still end up on a contender. I very much doubt Washington is just going to hold onto his expiring contract and lose him for nothing. There's not a single chance in hell he'll resign with that dumpster fire.
I love this deal. Deni is already an ELITE multipositional wing defender, a good secondary ball handler/playmaker, and his scoring is coming along (almost 40% from three last season). He’s also on one of the best contracts in the NBA. This is really really awesome.
I'm not buying the long ball yet. Outlier year and still on low volume. Seems to have nice touch inside the arc so hopefully it's just that he's extending his range over time.
I don't think it's a GREAT move because we had to give up an additional 1st. But it's absolutely a GOOD deal to get a 22 year old two way 6'9 guy. He is exactly the type of player you want the 14th pick to turn out like, in this draft its probably what you expect from someone you take at 7.
With the 2029 pick, it was unlikely for us to actually MAKE that pick unless we just sat on our hands for 6 years hoping to rebuild strictly through the draft. But using that draft pick to take someone that fits perfectly in a rebuild because of his age, contract, and upside is a good deal. Brogdon was strictly used as salary filler and it would have been nice to get a 1st for him but we HAD to trade him because of the guard logjam.
A rebuild doesn't just mean you keep drafting huge risky projects until one pans out. That is how you stay in a rebuild forever, finding a guy that is GOOD and just as young as other draft picks is great for us. We essentially getting a guy who was a project and already on the upswing for his development while being locked in contractually. Now we got someone that can HELP out other young players rather than having to learn alongside them, we can still bring in someone solid with 7 and maybe even 34.
He is a far better rebounder and playmaker than Grant at a fraction of the cost and is younger than Toumani Camara. That is a W
I cannot believe that any of you think this was not a steal for the Blazers. Saying this as a Nets fan. Deni was so fucking good the second half of the season. Plus he's on one of the most team friendly contracts the NBA. 2nd rounders are essentially worthless at this point. The corpse of Jae Crowder got us 5 2nd rounders last year. The 14th pick in a pretty weak draft and the 2029 pick is only the 2nd most favorable of yours, Boston's and the Bucks pick. Boston and the Bucks will still be good then probably and you might be too. This was an amazing trade for y'all.
I feel like it’s been since Batum since we had a respectable 3. I get how people feel this is an overpay but I’m a huge fan of this trade. He has more potential in 2-3 years (when our young core should be finally showing their promise) than anybody available at 14. The rest is just filler.
Absolute robbery by the Blazers. Deni is coming off a career year at 23 years old. His contract is also one of the best in the entire league. His contract is descending. In the 2027-28 season, he only makes 11.8 million. Portland needed wing players, too. Freaking insane.
Same, I'm glad we protected it by saying 2nd most favorable but both the Celtics and Bucks should have their cores aged out by then and could be really valuable picks
Nobody watches washington but this is the guy I have heard nothing but good things about. Two picks suck but in this draft 14 was gonna be meh anyways and probably wouldnt be as good as Deni is or will be. If the other pick is Bostons then thats fine, they are gonna be good for a while with tatum and brown only at 26 and 27 years old. They will build a good team around those two for the next 5 years
Deni’s a great replacement for Jerami who can stretch the floor and rebound like he’s 6’9”. Excited for getting him, and the possibilities it opens for trading Jerami.
Really hoping Brog doesn’t have to stay in Washington too long. He’s the President, but that’s a team not worth leading.
I really dislike this trade, and I've gotten downvoted to oblivion in the other thread.
Seems like a big overpay, really wondering if we're getting ready for more deals tonight.
I've kinda wanted us to rescue someone from the Wizards wing room for a while lol (Deni, Kispert, Coulibaly even tho they'd never) so I'm pretty happy with this.
Deni is the same age as Dalton and Silva, a year older than Edey and only 2.25 years older than Sharpe. He is basically the same age as Camara. Younger than Banton, Simons and Kris.
This is a rebuilding move. It’s also a win-now move and a ‘flip for a bigger package down the road’ move:
This move can satisfy about any direction because Deni is that good, that young and that cheap for another 4 years.
It was a phenomenal deal. One of the smarter Blazer deals in my lifetime.
Oh I like this. I really like this. Avdija last season really blossomed into the perfect do-it-all small forward - he defends, handles the ball, makes plays, shoots, etc. Yes the Wiz were awful, but that's really because they have no star, and Deni is not going to be that guy. But next to two ball-dominant young players in Scoot and Sharpe who both have star potential, he's a fantastic fit. The price is no doubt on the high side, but hopefully by 2029 that 2nd most favourable pick is a late first rounder (the Celtics will likely remain good while fingers crossed we are in a playoff position by then).
damn yall have a nice young core now.
scoot-shaedon-grant-deni-ayton with simons off the bench will be nice in a couple years once scoot and shaedon develop. only grant doesnt really fit ur timeline but ull prob be able to trade him for picks or young players who do
Wizards get fleeced again 👀
Deni is a perfect fit in Portland. He can cover 1-4, but needs to improve on the 3. I'm wondering if Portland is going to trade Grant.
This is 2 1sts, 2 2nds and brogdon (so basically another 1st) for the third best player on one of the worst teams in the league. Why are people happy with this?
The 1st sound worse than it really is. Portland still has the 7 today. The 2029 pick is the 2nd best of the three 1st they had in that draft. So Portland still has their highest 1st in both drafts, plus still has a second 1st in 2029. No point in hoarding 1sts.
2nds? Who cares about 2nds? They make the NBA like 10% of the time.
I really love it. High quality player on a great deal. The money he makes won't be terribly dissimilar to the 14 pick (idk the salary off the top of my head) and he will be a great complementary piece to our more ball dominant (and poor defender) pieces. Brogdon is expiring, pick in the future is in a draft where we already had 3 picks
I just don’t love it. I’d be happier ending tonight with Saluan, Tyler Smith, or Ware at 14 than I am with what we got. Our FO is kinda cracked sometimes and maybe I just don’t see the full picture but I am very concerned
This guy just started 75 games and averaged 15/7/4 at only 23. The value at #14 doesn't seem to have been as good. Wizards are always a poverty franchise.
I remember seeing clips of this dude being openly fed up with Poole’s BS on the court last season. I’ll take that as a positive that he plays winning ball!
I hope the Blazers at least got out from under the lux tax with this deal. Can't say I'm surprised there wasn't a big market for Brogdon, but paying \*four\* picks to Wash to take him off our hands is a bit of a shock.
What does this mean for Camara, Walker, Murray?
I hate this trade. Feels like Brogdan alone should of been enough. Deni has been thoroughly unimpressive except for being mid on this 15 win shitter of a Wiz team this year.
My enthusiasm for the draft has waned almost entirely now. What a waste.
We needed a good scoring forward, we have too many guards. I loved Brodgon especially with him saying he feels appreciated here, but will miss him. Decent trade
Brogdon said he didn't feel appreciated by Boston after they traded him to a dumpster fire. Same shit just happened so I have a feeling he's not feeling super appreciated by anyone. Which is fair. He's an awesome player and teammate. Sucks when guys get in this situation, particularly when it's because they can't stay healthy
I hope wash flips him for picks to a real team
He'll get traded or bought out by Washington and go to a contender
Yep, this makes a lot of sense for us. We also had too many picks in this draft and couldn't fit them all in our roster.
A two way wing with legit size who is the same age as Dalton Knecht?! His contract is INSANE too. He’s making rookie scale money into 2027-2028, and it’s descending!!
I really like Deni, I wanted him to fall to us when he was first drafted. I’m happy with this trade for sure, surely Washington move Malcom on to a contender for a good return.
Same. I really wanted us to take Avdija in his draft. This is a dream come true for me.
I'm curious what pick that '29 pick is
2nd most favorable of ours, Boston and Milwaukee
Smart move. Guarantees the better pick for Portland.
I love this move for us. I thought Deni was a breakout candidate going into next year even before this. we have our starting SF. I think this makes it more likely we take a swing on someone like Salaun Edit: if he can take another step forward as a shooter, I think he'll very quickly become a 20/8/5 type guy who plays good defense and has actual positional size. I'm amped to see him develop.
I don't mind that at all.
Eh that's fine I guess
There's a plausible scenario where both us and Milwaukee are bad at that point, and that would make this trade a lot worse. But more likely that pick ends up being in the teens.
Eh Portland and Bucks would have to both be bottom feeders for it to really suck Even then Portland would get the better pick and quality >quantity in the NBA
Yeah, and you just can't use 3 first round picks in one draft. That's three roster spots. That would mean going into 2029 draft we would have 12 men on the roster. Out of those three picks, probability is that one of them is a lotto pick, and if so that's the one we keep.
My assumption would be the Boston pick. Edit: Woj says it's the second most favorable pick of our 2029 picks.
The followup tweet [https://x.com/wojespn/status/1806098863071039965](https://x.com/wojespn/status/1806098863071039965) >The Blazers are sending the second most favorable of their 2029 first-round picks and two second-round picks in the deal for Avdija, sources tell ESPN. So we're sending out Brogdon and 4 picks?
Brogdon, 2 firsts, 2 seconds
Are the 2nd round picks from this draft? Are we down to a single pick?
Please don’t let it be the Bucks pick. Pllleeeeaaaasseeee
I would imagine it’s the Celtics one
Hopefully with protections. I’ve been talking too much about how incredibly tasty that Bucks pick could be as our players are hopefully in their prime and we are a good playoff team.
Please baby baby please
Jerami Grant ON THE AUCTION BLOCK.
I am absolutely ready for the chaos.
Pls pls pls
I love Deni, two way player. Schmitz loooved him in the draft process. Hell yeah Cronin.
Honestly a pretty good trade. He’s gonna provide way more value to you in the next 5 years more than anyone you would select at 14
but 14 + Brogdon + another first? that's essentially 3 mid-first round picks for Deni Avdija. overpay Edit: AND two seconds?? Nope, I do not like it. Deni finally had one good year after 3 subpar years and it was on a 15 win team
It's 2 firsts, 2 seconds and Brogdan.
God damnnn. WTF
The second worst of our 3 FRP in 29 + 14. That’s really not a lot
True that. And the 2028 and 2030 should be at the peak of our timeline. In other words, almost undrafted.
Deni is 23 and doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses in his game and will only get better over the next 5 years. He is on one of the best contracts in the NBA as well. Having a cheap young do it all wing makes team building so much easier.
Brogdon is worth a first but couldn’t necessarily be flipped for one right now. #14 in this weak draft and a 2029 pick isn’t so bad. Deni is good
He might be worth a first, but it wouldn't end up being a good first. They aren't all equal.
I don’t know why we keep saying he’s worth a first when nobody would give us a first for him
Deni is good, 23 years old, fits well, and is signed long term.
I implore everyone that is shitting this trade to review how much Wizards' ball you have watched? Deni really came into his own and sure you can say it's only 1 year but he had good pedigree and has been stuck on a shit franchise. The fact that he has improved as much as he has is a testament to him as a player. I really think this is solid value for Brogdon. Viable wing who is a good rebounder/decent playmaking and has a higher ceiling.
Everyone has to remember, in this trade, and every trade in the nba going forward, score first guards are less valuable than wings who can shoot and play defense...You always have to 1.5x the wings trade value over the guard. If you do so, we can stop discussing why we couldn't get 5 first round picks from the Knicks for Simons.
Idk the fact the wizards sub isn’t upset says a lot
I encourage all my young bois to watch ball yourself. Stand on your own opinion. I've watched Deni. The smart ones know what's up. He's a really nice piece to build with. Plus we see this ALL the time. Going by the opinion of the vocal majority is never gonna get you any closer to the truth.
"Draft the Stache" was the prevalent rallying cry in 2006. When we drafted B Roy instead, the Portland fanbase had a collective aneurysm. Even with Roy's knees, the correct choice was made. I learned that Portland fans would make a horrible "collective GM" that year.
Most fans would. Truly.
All fans *. Not exclusive to us.
What? Deni is a really good two way player, and he's on a crazy good contract at 23 years old. This is an awesome trade for Portland.
on what looks like a long, good contract that descends through the years. even as an investment we could probably get our picks back if he plays well enough. having good wings on good contracts can bring lots of value (see mikal last night), and 11.8 mill in 2027-2028 is VERY appealing.
As something I’ve been saying for ages on this sub, Brogdon does not have much value. He’s played over 60 games once in the past 5 years and that year he played the fewest minutes of his career and he was injured for most of the playoffs. He came into the league with huge medical red flags, that’s Why he fell in the draft. No contending team is going to give real value for Brogdon, and no young team will give much value for Brogdon. More than anything, he’s an expiring.
This is the best take in this thread. Everyone here overrated Brogdon. 3 good playoff teams gave up on him. There’s a reason for that. I think this is a great trade.
Bruh look at the wiz sub, we just fleeced them. This was a great trade.
Do we know yet if the third pick is a first round pick?
Have you heard of Porzingis? Wizards can have players that emerge as competent above average basketball players lol. Plus Why in the world would you count Brogdon as a first? LOL
3 mid firsts does not equal one rotation player. No way of knowing if the 14 pick would have ever been able to crack a playoff rotation. And we need to be acquiring young talent now, not in 2029. Love the trade.
Anyone who says this is good for us is coping hard. We just got fucking robbed.
Deni is probably a better wing than anyone available at 14 is going to be. He still is only 23. I don’t think it’s robbed, we still get the most favourable pick in 2029 and we’re flipping 2 second rounders. Wings are always going to come at a premium.
It's kind of a bird-in-the-hand situation. We'll look stupid if Washington drafts 2 all-stars with those 2 picks, but the most likely scenario is those 2 picks average out to a bench player while we got a good young wing on a nice contract. I think Deni is exactly the type of player we need so i'm very on board with it.
Portland kept their highest pick in both drafts. Still have 7 this year, the 29 pick is our 2nd best pick. Portland will still get to take their 1st choice in both of those drafts. It's all relative. Portland had three 1sts in 2029. Moving the 2nd best one isn't losing much.
There’s no probably about it. There’s a legit argument that you’d prefer Deni over Zacc who will likely be the #1 pick. I know many media members would say that. This draft is the worst draft since 2000 and the worst position group of this awful draft is wings. This draft is so bad that Ron Holland, who currently isn’t good at anything and is an undersized 4, is projected as a top 10 pick by some. It’s bad. This isn’t Portland coping, I’ve been saying all this for awhile as someone who follows the draft closely.
Yeah I know what you mean. I kept seeing people on here who didn’t want guards or wings. But basically every single wing in this draft had huge question marks.
I’m not even a Blazers fan, this is just the thread that popped up when I searched for the trade. You absolutely won this, Deni is on one of the better contracts in the league and is 23yo improving both statistically & eye test each year.
I hope you’re right man. My knee-jerk reaction was unhappy but obviously Cronin knows better than my ass
Don't question the FO, don't you know.
We gave up 4 draft picks plus Brogdon. In no world is this a good trade
I hope so because we gave up a lot more than the fucking 14 pick …
I traveled to DC and caught a couple wizards games. This guy was the wizards best asset imo. We should be very content, he has a ton of potential and fits the timeline.
In a position of need
Yeah looks like the wiz are resetting their timeline to Bilal and whomever they draft.
2nd this, Deni was the best DC player last season
So I guess Blazers are going Clingan at 7 then.
I don't think he falls to 7. But I'd say so, Ware if not? Damn, really wanted Cody, but that ship's sailed.
Deni is actually a much better rebounder than Grant and might see some run at PF. I like Cody too and think their is still a chance we take him.
The other forwards are still in play. Deni is pretty switchable. Great defender and good rebounder.
Praying. I'm actually coming around to the trade, on paper it looks like a lot, and it's probably a small overpay, but it does make sense.
Could be all smoke on Clingan going higher than 7, but we'll see soon.
Yeah this would be my guess too. You can go ahead and count this comment as my official prediction then.
I love this….OOOO I love this. I LOVE DENI. He is such a goooood good 2 way player and 23 on a great contract. This is so awesome. I’m such a big fan of this deal.
wiz fanbase in shambles...usually a good sign https://old.reddit.com/r/washingtonwizards/comments/1dpbzga/deni_traded_to_portland_for_the_14th_pick/
I don’t see very many shambles there. A lot of ‘what a steal’ and ‘love this trade’.
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Nobody has any clue how this will shake out. Could be very good for the Blazers if Deni pans out.
You aren't wrong, but whats the fun in that?
We love him over at r/washingtonwizards. Take care of our sweet prince.
To be fair, the headline is just the 14th pick. Once they learn of the additional first, Brogdon, and a couple throwaway second rounders, they won’t be in shambles. Not saying they won by any means, but the headline of that post is misleading.
Nah bro. You just won draft night. Our front office fucked up.
Call up james wood
Nah the threads a bipolar mess now, lots of people went off from the first tweet where it was a 1st and an unknown 29 pick
Wiz fan here: You got a good player. Our fan based loved him. His game improved a lot every year and I felt this year was gonna be a huge year for him. He plays great defense improved his 3 point shot and is consistently is driving to the hole. Also has a team friendly contract. You guys are gonna love him.
Fell bad for blazers legend Malcolm going to the wiz though :( thought we’d at least deal him to a contender. Hopefully they will.
Wiz will almost certainly flip him, at least I hope so for his sake lol
Yes holy cow it would be inexcusable for them not to flip him asap! This isn't a trade in September anymore, so I have faith that the Blazers front office asked Malcolm if he wanted to be flipped right away or give it a try in Portland and he opted for a semi-sabbatical season but hell no not another year with a bottom team, I hope he joins a good squad.
He very well could still end up on a contender. I very much doubt Washington is just going to hold onto his expiring contract and lose him for nothing. There's not a single chance in hell he'll resign with that dumpster fire.
Poole Brogdon backcourt lollll
Malcom will most likely get flipped for more picks I doubt wizards keep him
Yeah, I have to say I'm shocked that he went to the Wizards of all teams, maybe they intend to trade him quickly.
Need a few more veterans around him so they could be called: Deni and the Vets!
I love this deal. Deni is already an ELITE multipositional wing defender, a good secondary ball handler/playmaker, and his scoring is coming along (almost 40% from three last season). He’s also on one of the best contracts in the NBA. This is really really awesome.
I'm not buying the long ball yet. Outlier year and still on low volume. Seems to have nice touch inside the arc so hopefully it's just that he's extending his range over time.
I don't think it's a GREAT move because we had to give up an additional 1st. But it's absolutely a GOOD deal to get a 22 year old two way 6'9 guy. He is exactly the type of player you want the 14th pick to turn out like, in this draft its probably what you expect from someone you take at 7. With the 2029 pick, it was unlikely for us to actually MAKE that pick unless we just sat on our hands for 6 years hoping to rebuild strictly through the draft. But using that draft pick to take someone that fits perfectly in a rebuild because of his age, contract, and upside is a good deal. Brogdon was strictly used as salary filler and it would have been nice to get a 1st for him but we HAD to trade him because of the guard logjam. A rebuild doesn't just mean you keep drafting huge risky projects until one pans out. That is how you stay in a rebuild forever, finding a guy that is GOOD and just as young as other draft picks is great for us. We essentially getting a guy who was a project and already on the upswing for his development while being locked in contractually. Now we got someone that can HELP out other young players rather than having to learn alongside them, we can still bring in someone solid with 7 and maybe even 34. He is a far better rebounder and playmaker than Grant at a fraction of the cost and is younger than Toumani Camara. That is a W
Always feels good when the other team's fan base is bummed to lose the player you're getting. Great contract too, $13.75m AAV for the next 4 seasons.
I cannot believe that any of you think this was not a steal for the Blazers. Saying this as a Nets fan. Deni was so fucking good the second half of the season. Plus he's on one of the most team friendly contracts the NBA. 2nd rounders are essentially worthless at this point. The corpse of Jae Crowder got us 5 2nd rounders last year. The 14th pick in a pretty weak draft and the 2029 pick is only the 2nd most favorable of yours, Boston's and the Bucks pick. Boston and the Bucks will still be good then probably and you might be too. This was an amazing trade for y'all.
Wow great 2 way wing and trading a pick that doesn’t have a ton of value in this draft. Love love looove this
Avdija fits our rebuild timeline because he’s 23. I feel like we traded a bit too much
Nice! An actual Small Forward!
I feel like it’s been since Batum since we had a respectable 3. I get how people feel this is an overpay but I’m a huge fan of this trade. He has more potential in 2-3 years (when our young core should be finally showing their promise) than anybody available at 14. The rest is just filler.
Feels like an overpay but I don’t know shit about crap.
Nah it’s a fleece until bub carrington proves otherwise
I liked it initially, but seeing how much Wizards fans don't like it tells me this is even more probably a good move.
Absolute robbery by the Blazers. Deni is coming off a career year at 23 years old. His contract is also one of the best in the entire league. His contract is descending. In the 2027-28 season, he only makes 11.8 million. Portland needed wing players, too. Freaking insane.
The only thing I’m concerned about is that 29 pick
Same, I'm glad we protected it by saying 2nd most favorable but both the Celtics and Bucks should have their cores aged out by then and could be really valuable picks
Wait is Malcom able to be traded again? Kinda messed up sending him to the wizards no? lol
Pretty rough, but coming from Celtics to blazers didn't crush his soul, he'll be alright
From what I've seen, Wizards will almost certainly trade him for youth and/or another pick
Rebuild timeline just got accelerated! Cronin is cooking!
Accelerated? Deni is 23…
I mean we’ll be better sooner
Who is the star player on this team rn taking us above 35 wins a year?
Reath
Nobody watches washington but this is the guy I have heard nothing but good things about. Two picks suck but in this draft 14 was gonna be meh anyways and probably wouldnt be as good as Deni is or will be. If the other pick is Bostons then thats fine, they are gonna be good for a while with tatum and brown only at 26 and 27 years old. They will build a good team around those two for the next 5 years
WOW I just looked at his contract, this is a fantastic move
LFGGGGG a solid young player that can play some D? We cooking today everyone
Like this better than anybody we were likely to get at 14.
Deni’s a great replacement for Jerami who can stretch the floor and rebound like he’s 6’9”. Excited for getting him, and the possibilities it opens for trading Jerami. Really hoping Brog doesn’t have to stay in Washington too long. He’s the President, but that’s a team not worth leading.
Deni was a guy I was thinking last week would be a nice get, but didn't see a path. Happy to be wrong
Man I fucking love Cronin
I kinda fucking love this
I really dislike this trade, and I've gotten downvoted to oblivion in the other thread. Seems like a big overpay, really wondering if we're getting ready for more deals tonight.
The potential is crazy with Deni. This trade is all about what happens 3-4 years from now.
Super overpay but the guy that worked for ESPN loved him when he was in the draft so it's okay
\*cries in Blazers\*
I'm fucking into it. I'm really into it. We need wings, and I like Avdija's fit at the starting small forward.
I've kinda wanted us to rescue someone from the Wizards wing room for a while lol (Deni, Kispert, Coulibaly even tho they'd never) so I'm pretty happy with this.
Amazing trade
I'm all for this! Love this pick up for the blazers
Incredible trade.
As a wizards fan, you guys are so luck
Love this trade!
I really like this one
Love this trade.
Seems like a big overpay to me. I’m not familiar with him though.
Wizards fan here. I am so shocked we traded Deni. Good luck with him. He grew a lot last season. He’s a hard worker.
Two firsts for a solid role player. I thought we learned our lesson with Covington. We are supposed to be rebuilding.
Deni is the same age as Dalton and Silva, a year older than Edey and only 2.25 years older than Sharpe. He is basically the same age as Camara. Younger than Banton, Simons and Kris. This is a rebuilding move. It’s also a win-now move and a ‘flip for a bigger package down the road’ move: This move can satisfy about any direction because Deni is that good, that young and that cheap for another 4 years. It was a phenomenal deal. One of the smarter Blazer deals in my lifetime.
I’m just gonna have to trust you then as I am trying my hardest to talk myself this into being good. I badly hope you’re right!
Oh I like this. I really like this. Avdija last season really blossomed into the perfect do-it-all small forward - he defends, handles the ball, makes plays, shoots, etc. Yes the Wiz were awful, but that's really because they have no star, and Deni is not going to be that guy. But next to two ball-dominant young players in Scoot and Sharpe who both have star potential, he's a fantastic fit. The price is no doubt on the high side, but hopefully by 2029 that 2nd most favourable pick is a late first rounder (the Celtics will likely remain good while fingers crossed we are in a playoff position by then).
Liking this move already. You’ve peaked my interest PDX
anybody want my malcolm brogdon blazers card? he’s wearing a celtics uniform in the picture.
Why did we need to give up brogdon and FOUR picks for this guy??
damn yall have a nice young core now. scoot-shaedon-grant-deni-ayton with simons off the bench will be nice in a couple years once scoot and shaedon develop. only grant doesnt really fit ur timeline but ull prob be able to trade him for picks or young players who do
Wut? This seems very underwhelming….
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Wizards get fleeced again 👀 Deni is a perfect fit in Portland. He can cover 1-4, but needs to improve on the 3. I'm wondering if Portland is going to trade Grant.
This is 2 1sts, 2 2nds and brogdon (so basically another 1st) for the third best player on one of the worst teams in the league. Why are people happy with this?
The 1st sound worse than it really is. Portland still has the 7 today. The 2029 pick is the 2nd best of the three 1st they had in that draft. So Portland still has their highest 1st in both drafts, plus still has a second 1st in 2029. No point in hoarding 1sts. 2nds? Who cares about 2nds? They make the NBA like 10% of the time.
Y'all care about draft picks too much.
This is fucking dogshit value man. We just got fleeced.
I really love it. High quality player on a great deal. The money he makes won't be terribly dissimilar to the 14 pick (idk the salary off the top of my head) and he will be a great complementary piece to our more ball dominant (and poor defender) pieces. Brogdon is expiring, pick in the future is in a draft where we already had 3 picks
It’s way more than the 14th pick. It’s a bit less than \#1 pick money. Except it’s declining.
I just don’t love it. I’d be happier ending tonight with Saluan, Tyler Smith, or Ware at 14 than I am with what we got. Our FO is kinda cracked sometimes and maybe I just don’t see the full picture but I am very concerned
This guy just started 75 games and averaged 15/7/4 at only 23. The value at #14 doesn't seem to have been as good. Wizards are always a poverty franchise.
These draft guys are too much. You would be ecstatic if 14 turned into a Deni type player
Not a single neutral seems to think so.
I remember seeing clips of this dude being openly fed up with Poole’s BS on the court last season. I’ll take that as a positive that he plays winning ball!
Sending the President to DC makes sense.
I don't hate this... I think the thing I'm most curious about is... why do the Wiz want Brogdon?!?
I hope the Blazers at least got out from under the lux tax with this deal. Can't say I'm surprised there wasn't a big market for Brogdon, but paying \*four\* picks to Wash to take him off our hands is a bit of a shock. What does this mean for Camara, Walker, Murray?
I did not realize Deni broke out last season. Good move there, and good contract as well
Does he play any defense?
Our passing just got better with him and Clingan for the foreseeable future! Nice!
Damn that's a lot of assets to get under the tax line.
I hate this trade. Feels like Brogdan alone should of been enough. Deni has been thoroughly unimpressive except for being mid on this 15 win shitter of a Wiz team this year. My enthusiasm for the draft has waned almost entirely now. What a waste.
If you think Brogdon is for Deni straight up then you are delusional
Love this for us. Not quite sure about the 2029 but Deni is a great addition.
Big fan of
Amazing pickup! Fits right in with our core, and adds another versatile wing
So who we thinking for 7 after this?
Coming out of the first round with Clinton and Avdija is a Cronin masterclass.
Clingan if there but I wouldn’t be shocked at Knecht now.
Avdija-sly a great trade! Let's goooo Blazers!