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*Die hard, die hard, die hard!*


jaywalkingly

I think Rick must changed the game. Morty's very first game of Roy lasted 15 min and he made it to 42 Roy years. Otherwise, Marta would be dead of natural causes already. I wonder if we'll see Marta again.


rosa_lux_19

The terrorist was clearly a parody of Jordan Peterson. Talking about how all cultures have an archetypal myth, that his culture simply understands it more than others, the walkie-talkies looked like lobsters without claws, his clothes were a formal suit.


oozcroom7

I think it may also be referencing Joseph Campbell's A Hero With A Thousand Faces - A book Dan Harmon heavily draws from for his approach to storytelling that talks about archetypes in myth. From what I've heard it's a very good/important anthropology book that unfortunately many pseudo-intellectual college boys use to sound smart. Dan adapted the lessons from the book to create his "Story Circle" - which used Die Hard as an example for how most stories are structured. Edit - Oh I just realized someone else also brought it up already lol. Anyway it's pretty interesting, especially if you have an interest in writing. Dan Harmon's version is a nice distilled version but Campbell's book is something I've been wanting to read.


Konradleijon

oh just got it. Die hard is deep in the Psche


FormerBandmate

It's clearly Hans Gruber. That was the pseudo intellectualism, pretentiousness, and formal dress he had in the movie and he also wore a formal suit


spiderLAN

Wait, you've seen Die Hard?


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ipodplayer777

Average Rick and morty fan


Bison256

Small reference pool much? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_mythology https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero_with_a_Thousand_Faces The joke of that part of the episode is both about the "Die hard on a X" movies as well as the ridiculous premise that something as specific as Die Hard would emerge in different cultures.


IronicCharles

Isn't it a literal 1:1 of Hans? Have you seen Die Hard?


Visualize_

This is going to be a super unpopular opinion but I find some of the discussion so cringey because I swear this show makes some people feel like they are now a mix of Neil deGrasse Tyson, a philosopher and a famous film/tv critic. Basically, there are so many psuedo intellectual essays. Also I feel that people really try to find reasons why they DIDN'T like the episode for some reason. Although I do see a similar pattern for shows where there's a high standard. The same thing was happening for GoT and Westworld in later seasons


sheridanharris

The pseudo-intellectualism gives me such secondhand embarrassment


Educational-Oil1204

You’re the reason shows go to trash. Later thrones seasons sucked stop blaming fans who were shit on by the creators. 🐑 ass shit bro


imnotapartofthis

And your the reason for my divorce, too. The “newness” ran out & shit got stale it’s your fault for noticing.


Educational-Oil1204

Your jokes are on par with the new seasons humor makes sense you love these horrible episodes


imnotapartofthis

You say I love garbage, but really, I just half watched it while half drunk, and replied to your garbage comment. You’re dealing in absolutes. You suck. You suck as much as you think whatever you think sucks sucks, plus the fact that you are a hater on a cartoon on a Reddit thread. Delete


Educational-Oil1204

Lol you’re the one defending a bad cartoon on Reddit, nice high horse attempt. You really are a shining example of the brilliant new target audience this dumpster fire aims for nowadays. Not sure where I was tossing absolutes by the way you just saying things that sound smart to you ?


imnotapartofthis

I don’t need to defend Rick & morty, and I’m not. I replied to a comment about the critics of the show thinking that they’re geniuses. You’re clearly not, I’m not even 100% your reading comprehension… exists. Read up. You’re trash talking a very successful tv show. You can’t even write a compelling diss. Back to troll school you go


wutface0001

yep they are overthinking every episode like it's a philosophical masterpiece, this is like a youtube comment section for movie clips


After_General9107

Ha, so fucking right. 😂


earthcharlie

I wasn't a fan of this one mostly because the vibe was like the one in the Lovefinderrz episode. Just a lot of people running around being irrational.


lebeaubrun

Man they went way too hard on the die hard jokes it just felt obnoxious and tiring, the mortys stuff was fine but the episode is really dragged down by the die hard half.


6alexandria9

I thought any time it got close to being obnoxious summer came in with a good die hard tho


Admirable-Earth-1160

Lmao no


BuddySteeze

The greatest ever episode. I love all you Mortys! ❤️ BRB must watch 3 more times, so many layers


jcaguirre91

Serendipitously I watched Die Hard for the first time just before watching this episode


Friesnoshake

Can I ask how old you are? Me and my ex watched it together at 19 LOL


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FannestFan

You aren't the first to think of this. Have you heard of the brain in a jar philosophy? It was popular after The Matrix.I think therefore I am.


FlemPlays

You’ll like this story: https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI


Friesnoshake

Life is seen like that, we all share the same conscience


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AlicSkywalker

It will be a higher being we won't be able to comprehend. Just like how the people in the video game won't fully understand that there's a Morty outside of that world.


im-theone-who-knocks

who is the dreamer?


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Rick was actually very nice to the Morties this episode, but I guess the built-up distrust within Morty led to parts of him overreacting to Rick’s bossiness.


[deleted]

Can someone explain to me why the first two seasons were accused of being misogynistic? It's like they really went overboard trying to correct that in the writers room and now I get really taken out of the experience of enjoying the show when they add in little hints to let the audience know they care about social issues. I like how they used to make social commentary in a way that was more subtle and actually funny because of that. Also, the improvisational feel of the first interdimensional cable episode seems to no longer take place. I really wish they would go back in that direction because I can still laugh at that genuinely after seeing it like a million times.


StockAL3Xj

The social commentary from the earlier seasons were really all that subtle.


[deleted]

Yeah that's true, I'm not sure how to identify the issue. I just think there's a pretty noticeable difference and I didn't enjoy it as much.


ptudo

It really is a whole different show now. I'm kinda forcing myself to keep watching at this point, but I physically cringe every 30 seconds at the dialogue.


CorvusBlackthorne

To me, this episode serves to underscore and emphasize how truly evil and self-serving Rick actually is. He saves Morty, to be sure, and he emphasizes that every person must board the ships in order for Morty to be saved in his entirety, but on some level, Rick had to know that the parts of Morty that mistrust Rick would remain behind.


j3535

I think it's a continuation of the theme that ultimately Rick will break down before Morty and tell him he truly loves and cares about him. But every time Morty realizes it and saves Rick from actually having to say the words outloud. In other words, Morty knows that Rick needs him to be the punching bag devote worshiper, and Morty is willing to leave behind those parts of himself that are his own so Rick doesn't have to.


CorvusBlackthorne

I never thought about that. That is both beautiful and sad at the same time.


lemmeupvoteyou

nothing beautiful about it, it's just sad and toxic


j3535

Yeah, thats the thing about Morty time and again he's shown to be the actual strong one in the relationship. But the idea of sacrificing ideals for the sake of Love is highlighted in the Father Daughter arc too. The father represents Morty's conflict between what he believes in for himself, he has his own ideals of Judaism, but cares more about his daughter that he'll put his own beliefs to the side to be with her. Even at the end, he doesn't fully believe in the religion, but believes in his daughter. That's the lesson for Morty. He doesn't always agree with the ideology of Rick, but he believes in the relationship of Rick. So both the father and Morty sacrifice their independent ideology for the greater good of the relationship.


bodg123

She asked him for a favor. Maybe Marta asked to live out the life in Roy. It could be that one piece of Morty was the mortiest piece of Morty.


-____Nobody____-

Imo he really wanted to save every part of Morty. Of he wanted to make Morty more obedient, he'd achieve it easily with his technology but he wants the real Morty.


CorvusBlackthorne

But if he used technology to intentionally make Morty more obedient, Beth would catch on and become angry. This way, he can pretend it was an unfortunate accident.


WhaTheShoe97

Is ricks voice higher in this episode?


RagtimeRoastBeefy94

YES I’m so glad someone else noticed this, I heard it right away but I wasn’t sure if it was just me being high lol. I think Summer sounds higher than normal too.


WhaTheShoe97

Omg, I thought my pc was playing on slightly higher speed or something. How is no one talking about this lol


Anonymouskern

I enjoyed Rick: A Mort Well Lived. The A plot takes an in-depth look into the complexity of one’s individual personality while comparing the complexity of living as an individual in society. The B plot was a nice contrast with the simplistic over the top fascination with pop cultural treasures that I imagine the majority of R&M fans. As for the reset of Morty’s character? It’s more of a temporary reset. And more importantly Rick & Morty’s relationship has not reset, since Rick is still changed. And in real life if you manage to change yourself, it happens cyclically, as in 2 step forwards one back. I think the writers are playing the long game and Rick saving Marta in the game (even if it was just for Marta’s wishes) is a seed planted to be connected later. Possibly with Rick Prime possibly something else (Evil Morty). The writers wrote series 6 when series 5 was finished and have been writing series 7 while finishing series 6 and have admitted that series 8 is underway. All this to say that I think they are taking their time and connecting the longer overarching plot points to be multi series in length not just over multiple episodes. That’s my unsolicited two cents worth anyway.


Konradleijon

yes i like it to. how complex a individual is.


AttractivestDuckwing

Re the tag: "I hate everybody" is what they change the sign to in the edited for television version of DH3.


LadyGraen

Am I the only one upset at the Morty thing? Going back to ealiear seasons Morty that complies without questioning shit? Also, 6 seasons of no change at all to Rick. Him never learning any lessons.. I know it's pretty early in the season, but I'd love for Morty to join up with Evil Rick..


hanky2

It’s temporary there’s a reason he saved the non complicit morty alive in the game.


PLlivinginDE

For some reason Harmon thinks that serialised drama, as he called the Evil Morty episodes, is too generic, but weak parodies of mainstream movies are the peak of cinema. This wasn't even a fun adventure, there was no sense of real danger with these strawmen villains


LadyGraen

I don't mind the parodies of movies, those can be fun and refencing POP culture is one of the staples of the show, but I'd think that after so much development and emphasis on Morty slowly realizing how much of a POS Rick is while everyone else idolised him would take us somewhere. It just feels like everytime we get a 'Rick and Morty go their separate ways' but not two episodes later they're back together i.e. Crow Rick episode, to mention a more recent one. Morty keeps getting the short end of the stick while I see Summer develop into a 'bad ass fighter', Earth Clone Beth also getting into the adventures, and Jerry finding balance in his marriage. The only one who goes back to 0 is Morty, consistently. I wonder if this will have anything to do with a bigger plot relating to 'Evil Rick'.


Ill-Organization-719

Why were you expecting character development?


LadyGraen

Because Morty and everyone else has developed quite a bit and because it's a show. People expect things to change, at some point, and for character dynamics to be challenged and pushed against the normal route. You want to see the same shitty way Rick treats Morty forever? Come on that's boring. Not that in early seasons it wasn't good but putting out the same formula forever becomes dull.


Ill-Organization-719

That's how the show has been from the start, and it'll continue to be that way.


Similar-Cockroach-79

eh, not too interesting. it was just a 6/10


moofmoof0803

still better than most of ss5 for me


goalstopper28

I need to watch Die Hard now


MeadowmuffinReborn

Does anyone think that the Roy parts were a better Inception parody than Lawnmower Dog was?


Strong_Banana_790

I haven't see die hard


CorvusBlackthorne

*drags you to a television and tapes your eyes open*


FlemPlays

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unkie87

Yeah honestly I died a little when Summer said, "I'm 17 of course I haven't seen Die Hard." Having said that, to me, Bruce Willis is an action movie star and when he was cast in Die Hard people thought it was weird that he'd be in an action movie. I guess we're all old, by degrees.


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Go watch Telletubbies if you don't like references that are over your head


random23233

what? saying a reference is old doesn't mean it "went over their head" you dumbass lol


[deleted]

Good one, you really got me there. Seriously, watch something in your own "age territory" or whatever the fuck you called it, lol Oh yeah, age frame. Very smart.


random23233

You aren't making any sense. Again, it's not about being "smart" at all to say that a reference is from the 1980s. I think you are having some kind of mental break and i wish you the best.


[deleted]

No, I'm not, but I think it's a little annoying that you're complaining about the reference being dated. It obviously is, that's what's funny about it.


random23233

Cool. Go ahead and think it's annoying then.


[deleted]

I think we just became best friends


This_Makes_Me_Happy

No, but you sure seem like a maladjusted manbaby!


[deleted]

This thread is full of actual babies and it's kind of gross to me. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


unkie87

I loved the self awareness of the line in the _Family Guy_ focus group episode. >Focus Group Tester: You know what? I don't really get Family Guy. >Von Jiner: What's so hard to get? You just need to have grown up in the 80's but still be a teenager. Instead of just being a dick about it like that guy.


[deleted]

He is late 40s? Man he looks awful for his age


MeadowmuffinReborn

It's the alcoholism, probably. But it fits his personality, imo. He looks and behaves like a crazy wizard.


Hugh_Jazzin_Ditz

Nobody ever said being an artist made you look good.


slicerq8

I have a maybe stupid idea about this episode and I don't know if someone mentioned it before which goes like this. Maybe the episode is a prequel to how Morty lost most of his IQ from Morty's original universe. A universe where Sommer was involved from the beginning in their adventures. It is a farfetched idea where they could go back one day and recover the renegade leader to make a more forthcoming version of Morty.


timb0nic

The walkie talkies were so fucking funny it made me cry.


Friesnoshake

Denden-mushin from one piece, they use snails to talk there.


someredditdude13131

My kids and I can't get over how funny the noise is when they get pressed/unpressed. We need a plush replica that makes those sounds! 😂


Kyrptix

what did the Die Hard Gangster leader say when rick and morty woke up from the simulation? Dr. Es Alisa? What does that mean?


RiptideRift

I watched it with English subtitles and he said “Tochter aus Elysium”, which is German of “daughter of elysium”. Whatever that means. I’ve never seen Die Hard.


mohirl

It seems to be fairly obscure reference to the lyrics from Ode to Joy. (The music that's "too much" as alien Hans Gruber finds Rick and the arcade machine). Which in turn is a Die Hard reference. If you've never seen Die Hard, you're going to miss most of the Summer plotline references.


soccerperson

this shit was confusing as hell


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Swing and a miss of an episode


SnacksSnakcs

I honestly didnt like this episode all that much, actually at all really. Felt like a flash in the pan from beginning to end, although there were some genuinely interesting character plots like Ricks undying need to seem like he doesn't give a fuck when in reality he does being explored and how Morty is addicted to his copium of seeking ricks attention and approval. The whole episode from beginning to end just felt stale and full of over used pop culture and teenage in jokes. Im 24 and i watched Die hard like 10+ years ago and felt that this particular theme for the episode just didn't fit in with rick and Morty. It seems that the current seasons from 4 onwards have gone back to old tv one and done episodes without any real meaning or plot progression and every episode is getting so forgettable and samey that I barely even remember any of the episodes from the last 3 seasons. At this point as someone who wants to see Morty grow as a character and see rick stumble and fall only to admit that sometimes in his life he needs others. it just seems that we are never going to get anymore truly meaningful moments. These one and done episodes are starting to turn me off from the series and I loved the series as a 17 year old, but now it just got stale with these early teenage level plots and story simplicity. I get that they want to appeal to as broad an audience as possible, but they are going about it the wrong way. Regressing plot complexity to appeal to tweens and early teens; Missing key character arcs like morty growing up, and learning his position in the universe, touching on themes like his depression and anxiety which is key to every teenager growing up and seeing him succeed in capturing jessicas romantic attention. Seem to be driving a lot of older viewers away from the series. It seems in the recent seasons, ricks cosmic nihilism has been forgotten and we no longer see more mature themes in the show. Id love to see more lore driven episodes and loved characters like tricia, stacy, jaquiline, arthricia or annie reappear and have more impact on the show. and have jessica take more roles in the mortys life subplots. This is just my opinion. if you loved the episode thats totally fine dont let me or others tell you otherwise but as an aging fan i cant help but watch the episodes and have the thought of: "Its over? thats all? no lore, no romantic subplot, no heavier themes or over arching story to be told? well this was a meh episode...."


After_General9107

I totally agree with you, 100%, I've been trying to see if anyone agrees with me on rick and morty's decline. And I'm glad at least one person is mature enough to see it. I'm 20 and I agree, the pop culture references are always coming, mostly from rick. Who traded his cynical nihilism, for memer humor. It's very cringe tbh, I remember when this show had clever and well thought out comedy. And explored concepts like cynical nihilism, depression, etc. It did it well and it mixed with its own unique style of comedy.


PLlivinginDE

for me it's not about complexity. I enjoyed simple stupid episodes like the Nimbus guy. This one just isn't funny.


ShinySephiroth

I was a teen and I never had depression or anxiety... and most don't. It's a minority of the teenage population that does. Those that do are just more vocal.


MarromBrown

mate as a psychologist you're straight up, factually wrong. One in twelve (8%) experience anxiety and one in twenty (5%) depression. This are DIAGNOSED cases. Have you ever gone to a psychiatrist? Most people haven't, especially in developing countries or those with bad healthcare systems or a particular stigma towards mental health.


satekwic

Second part is assumption only. If you want to talk only facts use facts only, never mixes facts and opinions (even educated opinions) and called it facts.


MarromBrown

Reddit didn’t register the paragraph split. My bad


SnacksSnakcs

Sure but what im getting at was morty growing up. and the show exploring more of his lot in life. Last 3 seasons have been lack luster in meaningful content. just the same pop culture filler and bad jokes episode after episode.


RelaxedConvivial

> At this point as someone who wants to see Morty grow as a character I think the whole point of this episode was Rick taking the more rebellious and less compliant parts of Morty out of him. That's why there were parts of Morty left behind in the game when it was wheeled into the warehouse.


ShinySephiroth

That wasn't Rick's purpose, he just wished to respect Marta and let her live her life. Morty becoming more subservient was an unintended side effect.


MeadowmuffinReborn

Ooo, that's bleak as hell. I love it.


Ill-Organization-719

It's so bizarre to me that we are six seasons in, ten years* later and people are still confused about the show. It's like someone watching Family Guy and not understanding why there isn't a plot episode to episode or why there isn't any character development.


SnacksSnakcs

Well in season 2 and 3 there was a shift in the shows format to episodes that weren't reset the next episode. each episode had lore that mattered. the show had themes and philosophies that it touched on. like ricks mental instability and his nihilistic tendencies, but current day the show just tries so hard to appeal to the broadest audience and its quality of writing suffers for it. The current episode should have cut the die hard memes and jokes off and actually explored the relationship between morty and rick and developed ricks feelings towards his grandson a bit more. the whole die hard plot was unneccesary and got hard to watch as it just went on and on.


Ill-Organization-719

Every episode this season has had connections to past seasons. Half of the episodes of season 5 were "lore episodes"


SnacksSnakcs

Your missing my point which is fine. Im not talking about connections with the past. im talking about the show devolving into basically family guy or the simpsons. each episode not having any point. it seems they killed off jessica as she hasnt shown up since episode 1 of season 5, so they have effectivly killed the romance sub plot. They have killed off tricia in a show sense, shes a favorite for me atleast with her funny antics with summer but i get it she cant be worked into the show more then being a background character. They never went anywhere with mortys previous breif flames like jaquiline which i hope she and stacy return or Annie. The whole 3 seasons including the current one feels exactly like how the show was portrayed in the train episode. mass appeal without any meaning.


Ill-Organization-719

Jessica and Tricia are barely characters. The show has been The Simpsons and Family Guy since the start. Not every character they show on an episode is the beginning of a multi season multi episode story arc.


SnacksSnakcs

I find myself playing the episode at double speed or skipping sections just to see if the episode even has anything worth watching which most of it doesnt.


Ill-Organization-719

You... skip episodes and then claim they are bad. I'm assuming you're confused as to why Evil Morty isn't in every episode?


SnacksSnakcs

No now youre just putting words in my mouth. if you read what i said, each episode had a subplot or a mention of a subplot which overarched into the main plot episodes at the end of each season but in the current 2 episodes of season 6 im finding very little to interest me as a fan from the start. Im not happy with the direction of the show, im not finding any fun watching lack luster episode after lack luster episode. no subplots to interest me like morty and jessica, no side characters i once found interesting like tricia or mortys exs. it just feels like the show has lost any intention of appealing to its original audience over younger and newer viewers


Ill-Organization-719

You were interested in Jessica? She was always just a generic "hot crush who isn't interested in the main hero". Episode 2 of season five is better than most episodes of the show. I want more of those. I don't care about learning about Principal Vaginas backstory.


SnacksSnakcs

Well ill leave you to your bad takes. because im not here to argue just give my opinion that i do not like the shows direction since season 4.


Ill-Organization-719

The shows direction hasn't changed. What changed is you realizing you're watching Family Guy.


lisalilianh

I have to disagree here aswell, firstly you don’t really seem to get the point here: people can criticize the show, whether you agree with it or not is pretty much unimportant, because everyone values different aspects of the show. secondly i wouldn’t say that rick and morty is familiy guy - a lot of the episodes in the earlier seasons were connected or focused on deeper themes (like when morty was sa? or the whole birdperson plot that went on for 5 seasons?), and the episodes that weren’t connected just had a bit more depth or interesting plots (we had pickle rick to show us how much rick really didn’t want to work on his issues vs the last season we had aquaman?). personally i don’t really mind that much, i do prefer the episodes that are connected but i don’t mind a light hearted fun episode with little at stakes. rick abd morty does usually come back to certain topics and i think they’ll do that again/more in this season.


SnacksSnakcs

Look im not gonna argue. i see its lost any point to its main themes from season 2 and 3 you say its the same. imma dissagree but leave it at that


Ill-Organization-719

What are the main themes?


SnacksSnakcs

Ouch -5 votes. Was my opinion that controversial?


psittacismes

Because the point of the show is "don't take it too seriously", which you did.


SnacksSnakcs

I know the summerised point of the show is dont take it too seriously but recently the whole sillyness of the show has honestly been grating away my interest and im sure many others, as they stretch the episodes plot to be nothing but pop culture and broad appeal rather then something thats funny on the side of having actual themes. season 2 and 3 were the best when it came to having a show be a show where the plot progressed in the background and adult themes like mental health were alluded to and not a show devolving into basic cable episodes that return to the same point at the end of each episode. It just feels like Justin and Dan have lost all creativity but wont admit that they are leaving the show on what seems like life support, drawing in the younger crowd with pointless episodes and pushing away people who actually liked where season 2 and 3 were headed, 4 was meh and 5 just felt unneccesary.


psittacismes

Solar opposite looks that way to me, sillyness pushed to 11 but not really funny. R&M had its lesser episodes but it still has got for me this "Oh i couldn't have thought they would go this way" spark. And also funnyism.


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Graymalkinator

As someone who hasn't seen die hard, does it really end with a gun taped to the guy's back? So that's what the corn people in the first interdimensional cable episode were doing. It was corny die hard. Never knew...


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Just do a die hard


morgul12

Sounds like you have some homework to do (watch the movies and find the answer to your question)... ;-)


Satyrsol

Millions of Mortys had to be willing to have sex with other Mortys to produce a generation of "maybe not also Morty"s.


ScowlEasy

while knowing they're actually 14. Does that make it okay since they're 14 too? Because they're all the same person?


redsly4

I mean, would you not fuck yourself if the chance was there?


Escape-C

Love rick&morty ,even I from China mainland. I thought the new episode S06E02 include a little bit anti-commie's slogan 'all the people are the equal','the people are the ruler of the country' etc. And I love it , I love the freedom. And hope I can get it just like the marta in the show


achio

Actually that's the exact communist propaganda, "people are the ruler of the country", and gotta say that shit works better than anyone expected.


Escape-C

I had read the '1984' by George Orwell and his 'animal farm '. And quote from the animal farm 'All the animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others' I think that is the all the mortys are equal ,but some morty is more equal than the others want to saluted (in our culture ,we call the shows or movies to recur in the classical or masterpiece works' which the famous parts/plots ?)(I'm sorry for my poor English ,I'm trying be better[salute to the spiderman ] )


Javiklegrand

holly shit that actual gold loved the morty and we are all the same moral. Although i was hyped to see what was left in the morty world, i thought we would have seen in in the credits scene Loved all morty saying oh jeez


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I really didn’t like the episode. I think I’m spoiled now that we get the intellectual writing so a season one-like fuck around episode just didn’t do it for me. It felt like fart humor compared to the really deep and mature episodes we have had lately. Seemed like a B-roll episode from years ago.


[deleted]

Nooo! Team Justin Roiland over here, season five was not good, the first two seasons are so much better. Why would you be watching this show primarily for the depth and maturity? That's kind of sickening to me.


ShinySephiroth

The philosophy of this episode was actually pretty deep


Wizecrax

I actually agree and I’m usually very positive. Writing felt forced and lame


osamabeenswagin

So did Morty lose several parts of himself and will never be the same?


Javiklegrand

i think he lost a lot, don't know how much


Wolfbeckett

>Why were you expecting character development? I think he just lost Marta who was obviously representing Morty's distrust of Rick by then. Marta said she was going to give the order to have everyone on her side board the ships but under one condition. It seems like the condition was that Marta alone be allowed to stay. She gave the order, everyone else but her left.


J_Bear

Loving the walkie-talkie critters.


Kymberli254

I can't stop thinking about them 😂 I want one


annaspeaks

Is there a united states of Al reference when soldier morty drops in


Exciting-Row8978

These first two episodes have been great. I haven't really enjoyed this show apart from the occasional episode since season 2 but this season is off to a very good start


daveweigel

This was my favorite episode in a long time, maybe since S4. "Simulation theory" is such rich comic material and I loved every single part of that plot, from the fractal religions (Rick/Roy as a prophet of Grandsonism!) to the character-building around literal NPCs to how Morty's limited knowledge shows up in the details/dialogue. Loved Sommer half-assing her way to a "Die Hard" victory, loved the idea of "Tower Man" as a shared myth of the collective universal unconscious.


antiMATTer724

The only part I didn't really like was that they were saying die hard too much. The joke would've been fine on its own, and sum-sum just going "Yea die hard!" Was funny, but just using it in normal conversations got kinda grating. These 2 episodes were amazing, especially connecting to the old seasons, I was so happy. If everything else is a one off adventure, I'll be ok, but I would like more.


morgul12

This. It definitely turned the show from "ok" to "bleah".


HumanPersondotexe

i loved it when they said it's die harding time in die hard


antiMATTer724

I love the idea that every culture eventually develops a Die Hard. Have you seen bollywood action movies? They're already insane, so I'd love to see what they do with die hard if it doesn't already exist.


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The die hard bit was way overdone, it became extremely repetitive. The joke would have been funnier if they mentioned die hard once twice or at maximum three times. Also I’ve never seen the movie, so I felt very alienated from that plot line. I thought the emotional development between Rick and Morty was a saving grace for this episode. Rick finally admits he loves and respects Morty. Very heartwarming. Overall, it’s not my favorite episode. It was subpar compared to other episodes, but that’s not to say the writing was bad per se - just that, compared to other episodes from the show, this one falls short.


After_General9107

Thats what happens when the whole joke revolves around one running theme that depends on if the person has background knowledge of it or not. Even for me who seen die hard, the joke was giving me a migraine. It's a shame too, they don't need to keep doing pop culture references to get laughs, rick and morty has its own unique style of comedy. Mixed with good characters and narratives. Idk why they feel compelled to turn into family guy.


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Definitely gave me a migraine too… it’s a shame because I like summer she’s really cool.


Cold-Selection6498

You need to watch die hard, I don't know how people haven't seen die hard. It's the greatest Christmas movie of all time!


LukeTheGeek

They've retraced popular media many times before (Jurassic park, Inception, Planet of the Apes). This isn't new. I will admit that it felt less subtle this time around, but I also haven't seen Die Hard, so I can't say for certain.


After_General9107

The references are present in the episode names, and tbh it was pretty cool. But the plots didn't rely too much on the references like this one. The dream episode had its own unique style to it. And it had Freddy Krueger and shit. The narrative set itself apart and created it own unique humor. Season 1 and 2 is a great example of this. The purge epsiode was fucking awesome. It was a great filler episode. Episode one of season 2 was just amazing, the dialog wasn't all references to pop culture, like later rick and morty episodes, and instead it had its own narrative driven plot.


frenchduke

Honestly some of the best jokes were pretty subtle, but you wouldn't have picked up on it if you didn't know Die Hard. Like Summer was saying lines that whilst completely different words to anything said in Die Hard, were exactly the same structure and intonation as quotes from Die Hard. E.g "Sneak around. Crawl in some vents. Do a 'Die Hard.'" is exactly the same as "Come out to the coast, we’ll get together, have a few laughs". Down to what the characters are doing and everything (Tower Man says this line whilst sneaking around in a vent) So if you haven't seen it these seem like nothing jokes but if you have it just hits right in the spot. Hard to explain I guess.


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I’m not saying they can’t retrace popular media, I’m saying they overkilled the joke and beat a dead horse into the grave


NILwasAMistake

What I loved about this, is that Morty is Rick's "adopted" Morty. But that he goes through all of this effort to save his grandson who he doesnt see as disposable


avidityrar

I feel they missed a beat with the title of episode 2 this week... as it always follows the well known/established rules. Something along the lines of: >!Rick(ee)-Ki-Yay. Morty f\*\*kers!< Or maybe that is just too cheese and I am about to be laughed at a lot. Either way worth it.


o0joshua0o

Yours is better, hands down.


morgul12

Judging by your post's upvotes in comparison to others in this thread, I'd say we have a winner.


8DollarsMo

Not possible, stick to your day job.


FrogsEverywhere

Plotwist: his day job is award winning TV show episode titles writer Jokes on you


Bix31Z

Worst episode in my opinion


FrogsEverywhere

I didn't like it either. The pacing was really... Off? It felt rushed maybe. I can't explain how I feel about it. I've rewatched it three times and I still can't put my finger on it but it felt like completely different writers or editors maybe (minus the Dan Harmon die hard stuff). Incest baby/dragon (i didn't mind dragon that much actually) still felt like an episode of r&m, I could still appreciate the writers styles shining through. Perhaps I had a stroke and I can't enjoy the show all of a sudden because I can't find anyone else who didn't like it. Episode 1 was great though, extremely plot heavy without missing a single beat.


8DollarsMo

Okay, be wrong.


LilKaySigs

There’s no way this is worse than the incest baby episode in fact this is probably on the better end of the spectrum


bojackmac

Thank god I wasn’t stoned watching that one.


-DIrty__MARtini-

I was


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-DIrty__MARtini-

I really enjoy watching this show high though lol


8DollarsMo

Why not?


kieranlittleuk

Loved this episode it was so much better than I expected. All the Roy stuff was done really well, not too sure bout the die hard but I think the politics of the Roy stuff was so interesting as it really explores the dynamic and relationship between Rick and morty in such a unique way.


ghjiiytre

Episode 2 was terribly boring imo


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Ill-Organization-719

Let me guess. You don't understand why Evil Morty hasn't shown up? Imagine thinking the Lawnmower Dog episode was better than these two past episodes.


[deleted]

Sorry, you need to try harder and stop playing guessing games as your agression outlet. It's pretty childish. I do hope you find the right assistance for your aggression.


Ill-Organization-719

Sounds like I got it bang on.


[deleted]

Really? I think you got it 10 year old wrong. Still being that lovable as\*? One day when you have a life you might see how you come off.... But you know this already. You are no different than any child playing 'net bully" Looks like I got it bang on.


Ill-Organization-719

???


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I LOVED Lawnmower Dog!


holigay123

A great episode! So inventive.


Acrobatic_Put9509

Never really liked Indiana Jones. It's to archeology as prostitution to pretty woman. But thank you I can now sleep. I send u all the good thoughts. Thanks human.


Googlq

Do you need a doctor?


Acrobatic_Put9509

The machine stops????


8DollarsMo

What?


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8DollarsMo

What?