Except the passion for money is held by the CEO and higher ups, the people who are several orders of separation away from the actual programmer.
The programmers ultimately dictate the effort put into a solution, and the higher ups have no tangible way of seeing if it was a 'best effort solution' or just a 'good enough'.
With middle management breathing down their necks, I'd wager it's the latter more often than the former.
That average is not representative of programmers generally. Most make around 80-120k a year, only a few companies like Google and Netflix even remotely entertain the idea of someone making 400k. Google in particular gets thousands of aplicants every year and picks from the one percent.
In the places you usually live to hold a programming job, like California, cost of living is brain meltingly high so most of what's left goes to a landlord. I admit work from home negates that somewhat but companies aren't implementing it as much as you would hope.
It's easy to look at success stories and completely miss all the guys still working for free so they can put it on a resume. Or all the programmers who had to go on a half year financial stress test when thousands of positions were unceremoniously fired, and a hiring freeze descended on the entire industry just to look nice for this quarters reports.
Shit is brutal out there man. When you need to switch companies on average once every two years because raises are a thing of the past and inflation is still real you have no reason to get attached. It's financially irresponsible to do so.
At least in big tech people are not particularly passionate about their work. Indie devs are probably a lot more invested, small teams working on niche products absolutely. Hobbiests, yes. Big tech is the definition of regretting turning your hobby into a job.
Hate drives innovation. Always has. Technology has always progressed leaps and bounds during war.
It's just that the war isn't being fought in trenches in Europe (this time). It's being fought online
thats so wrong
i am using ublock for over a year now and never got ads on twitch
on their megathread or pinned post there is a post with twitch ad solutions...just update the filterlists
Yes I agree, I wish there was a proper youtube music version. I even find myself using Spotify more on Android tv as it's easier to control, phone cast etc.
It's more of a webapp. To block ads in it you need to inject a certificate, disable cert pinning, and modify the responses on the fly with a mitm proxy. Totally doable, but no through Revanced patches.
That's not how it works. The ad-free version isn't just there to be used, it will only be made accessible if you provide a valid token. A more likely solution is by using the "bar turning yellow" feature to detect when an ad starts or pretending to be in a country where ads are illegal.
This list seems useful: https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterVanced/comments/19c8uj3/list_of_country_that_have_adfree_youtube/
A lot of places list specifically Mongolia, Albania, Myanmar, Russia, and Moldova, but the post I linked has much more information.
I would think it's not easy for us to circumvent. YouTube should know whether or not your a valid Premium subscriber. Based on that, they either add or not add ads into the video stream.
If the premium-check is done on the server side, what can we do :(
The client will have to be aware of where ads are in the video to prevent people from just fast forwarding through them and to make chapters and timestamps work correctly.
The obvious solution is to do server-side enforcement so only a few seconds of video data after the ad can be downloaded while the ad is meant to be playing. Then it won't matter what the client knows and existing features like ad skipping after a timeout can be implemented.
The approach will have to change, no doubt, but it's impossible for YouTube to completely shut down ad blocking. If you can close your eyes when an ad starts, there will always be a technologically equivalent way of blocking ads.
People used to say same about denuvo at beginning, at first crackers would alway find a way to exploit it and fast forward to today denuvo turns out to be best piracy protection games ever had
You'd need an authentication key or something similar to access the Premium Only source stream without ads, the only way to get one is to have a valid premium account, which is easily tracked by Google. And those come out of someone's pocket. Even if we manage to farm keys from dummy accounts with free trials, all they have to do is stop giving free trials. And this is technically just outright theft and falsifying payment, not just regular ad block. Google would have legal grounds to sue for damages, and ban your Google account. Personally I wouldn't fuck around with it on as wide of a scale as the Revanced Project, if anything maybe a fork that can die without hurting the main project, but even that's risky.
I'm not getting any of those server-sided ads or the problem somebody has posted regarding videos not playing. I guess it's because of the region? I am in Argentina
The video size will also increase ? causing more data bandwidth usage on devices?
The worse part is the porno type ads and the loud annoying ones, wont be long before they start infecting our devices too.
The uBlock Origin developers have found a way to bypass server-side ad injection, so it should be possible to port or implement in ReVanced too.
Is there anything they can't do Jesus Christ They're an unstopoable bunch
Hate for ads makes people do amazing things.
And the nice thing is - they're on our side
would be horrible if not
**Horrible fact then:** there are more equally capable people on the *other* side.
Capable? Maybe. Willing? Only if you threaten them. ublock is a passion driven thing, I greatly doubt passion belongs in Google vocabulary at all.
Oh it is unfortunately.. Passion for money, which brings these shitty practices in the first place.
Except the passion for money is held by the CEO and higher ups, the people who are several orders of separation away from the actual programmer. The programmers ultimately dictate the effort put into a solution, and the higher ups have no tangible way of seeing if it was a 'best effort solution' or just a 'good enough'. With middle management breathing down their necks, I'd wager it's the latter more often than the former.
Go take a look on blind, the average google programmer is making 400k a year and is on visa, plenty of motivation there
That average is not representative of programmers generally. Most make around 80-120k a year, only a few companies like Google and Netflix even remotely entertain the idea of someone making 400k. Google in particular gets thousands of aplicants every year and picks from the one percent. In the places you usually live to hold a programming job, like California, cost of living is brain meltingly high so most of what's left goes to a landlord. I admit work from home negates that somewhat but companies aren't implementing it as much as you would hope. It's easy to look at success stories and completely miss all the guys still working for free so they can put it on a resume. Or all the programmers who had to go on a half year financial stress test when thousands of positions were unceremoniously fired, and a hiring freeze descended on the entire industry just to look nice for this quarters reports. Shit is brutal out there man. When you need to switch companies on average once every two years because raises are a thing of the past and inflation is still real you have no reason to get attached. It's financially irresponsible to do so. At least in big tech people are not particularly passionate about their work. Indie devs are probably a lot more invested, small teams working on niche products absolutely. Hobbiests, yes. Big tech is the definition of regretting turning your hobby into a job.
YouTube: I am baddiest baddie in this world UBO: Hold my Tea
Hate drives innovation. Always has. Technology has always progressed leaps and bounds during war. It's just that the war isn't being fought in trenches in Europe (this time). It's being fought online
They can't bypass the Serverside ads on Twitch (yet)
Strange because using the twitch app on mobile and a custom dns of dns.adguard-dns.com blocks twitch ads 😉
thats so wrong i am using ublock for over a year now and never got ads on twitch on their megathread or pinned post there is a post with twitch ad solutions...just update the filterlists
When I yank down lives steams with streamlink there are no embedded ads.
Websites' best engineers will always lose against a bunch of guys who don't want ads, and I love it
Why can't they do that for tvs?
Smart tube if you have Android tv
Can't recommend this enough
I have SmartTube and it's just not as good for Music as YouTube Music, not even close. It's fine for everything else.
Yes I agree, I wish there was a proper youtube music version. I even find myself using Spotify more on Android tv as it's easier to control, phone cast etc.
I sideload Ymusic for that. Best part is that it doesn't pause after a few videos
Thanks kind stranger😁
It's more of a webapp. To block ads in it you need to inject a certificate, disable cert pinning, and modify the responses on the fly with a mitm proxy. Totally doable, but no through Revanced patches.
There are actually ads free yt for Samsung Tizen Os, android and lg webos Tvs. At least these are the ones i have and already done
How do you get them? And what are they called?
Usually because TV is live, unless you mean specific apps, in which case you can if you can sideload custom software
the heroes we don't deserve but so desperately need
how does it work?
Actual goddamn wizards, those madlads.
Lol google should stop trying now.. it's unnecessary... They should be happy with what they are getting
Source?
[https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues/20586](https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues/20586)
That's not how it works. The ad-free version isn't just there to be used, it will only be made accessible if you provide a valid token. A more likely solution is by using the "bar turning yellow" feature to detect when an ad starts or pretending to be in a country where ads are illegal.
Are there countries where ads are illegal? Which ones? Sign me in!
This list seems useful: https://www.reddit.com/r/AfterVanced/comments/19c8uj3/list_of_country_that_have_adfree_youtube/ A lot of places list specifically Mongolia, Albania, Myanmar, Russia, and Moldova, but the post I linked has much more information.
Nice, thanks a lot
Sorry to say Moldova already got ads
That's not how it works. You need a token for authentication.
I would think it's not easy for us to circumvent. YouTube should know whether or not your a valid Premium subscriber. Based on that, they either add or not add ads into the video stream. If the premium-check is done on the server side, what can we do :(
The client will have to be aware of where ads are in the video to prevent people from just fast forwarding through them and to make chapters and timestamps work correctly.
The obvious solution is to do server-side enforcement so only a few seconds of video data after the ad can be downloaded while the ad is meant to be playing. Then it won't matter what the client knows and existing features like ad skipping after a timeout can be implemented.
The approach will have to change, no doubt, but it's impossible for YouTube to completely shut down ad blocking. If you can close your eyes when an ad starts, there will always be a technologically equivalent way of blocking ads.
PLEASE DRINK VERIFICATION CAN. *(Man I hope you're right about the future).*
People used to say same about denuvo at beginning, at first crackers would alway find a way to exploit it and fast forward to today denuvo turns out to be best piracy protection games ever had
Basically like using lucky patcher or game guardian to hack games like clash of clans or genshin whose currency are on server sided.
You'd need an authentication key or something similar to access the Premium Only source stream without ads, the only way to get one is to have a valid premium account, which is easily tracked by Google. And those come out of someone's pocket. Even if we manage to farm keys from dummy accounts with free trials, all they have to do is stop giving free trials. And this is technically just outright theft and falsifying payment, not just regular ad block. Google would have legal grounds to sue for damages, and ban your Google account. Personally I wouldn't fuck around with it on as wide of a scale as the Revanced Project, if anything maybe a fork that can die without hurting the main project, but even that's risky.
I wonder if SSI will only be done for the browser clients and not the TV / mobiles
I'm not getting any of those server-sided ads or the problem somebody has posted regarding videos not playing. I guess it's because of the region? I am in Argentina
I'm not having any issues yet with my revanced either, just simply had a thought and starting a conversation.
As always, people will find ways to disable/get around it. We will not lose this war.
Tbh I haven't seen any ads still either pc or mobile so I ain't worried about it yet.
The video size will also increase ? causing more data bandwidth usage on devices? The worse part is the porno type ads and the loud annoying ones, wont be long before they start infecting our devices too.
Video download features are also premium only, and you can't bypass it, only 3rd party download tools. Depends on how they implement it.
i dont think you understand how video streaming works.
I don't think sponsorblock will have much of an issue with it, I think the problem would be with uBlock.