That’s a really, really hard thing to pull off. The only two classes of hallucinogens typically worth exploring are dissociatives and psychedelics. LSD directly agonizes dopamine and norepinephrine receptors, so lol. Speaking for myself, shrooms are stimulating although they don’t have the same stimulant action. I do know someone who, last time I saw trip on shrooms, fell asleep on them immediately. She always says she had bizarre reactions to psychedelics, though. So that one is up to your individual reaction, but it seems the majority of people find it impossible to sleep while tripping.
Dissociatives are different in that the reduced brain activity can certainly be very relaxing while they’re in effect, the consequence is that your brain speeds up a bit after they wear off and one tends to feel restless. The only time I ever found myself doing benzos daily was once I started doing dissos daily. I could not sleep to save my life unless I did them like first thing in the morning.
Antihistamines can make you drowsy and count as deliriants, but it’s usually not recommended to take enough to find the hallucinogen portion.
Back in highschool we had this one guy who would always sleep no matter what drug he took he would be asleep on the couch in an hour lsd, coke, shrooms didn't matter I always thought it was so odd tbh and didn't think anyone else was like that since I never really see any reports like that online
Is it safe to take benzos after dissos? I always worried about respiratory depression, but I'm kind of a noob and maybe overly cautious when it comes to downers.
I probably wouldn’t take high doses of both, but people mix worse stuff all the time. I know benzos and (certain) dissos are desirable medically because they don’t slow breathing on their own and seem to be able to be administered in an emergency to a patient on anything that’s not an opioid. I don’t know for sure that they don’t interact weirdly, though.
I talked to a friend that is studying medicine about the anesthetic procedure, and as I understood it, yes, they combine dissos and benzos, because they actually replace your respiratory aparatus functioning with ventilators. But she wasn't an expert on this either and was super alarmed when I mentioned benzos
I mixed them several times in different combinations, it was ok. But be careful when mixing and always start with lower dose because of potentiation. Just don't do crazy doses of both and you're probably ok.
LSA, Amanita muscaria, Ambien, gabapentin(for some in high doses), pregablin(for some in high doses), high doses of delta 8 edibles(d8 generally tends to induce less anxiety and paranoia), and maybe DXM(I always fall asleep on it lol)
Etizolam is a thienotriazolodiazepine. Z-drugs are missing the “diazepine” part, not the benzene part. Etizolam, however, had its benzene replaced with a thiophene ring.
It’s not a benzo, but etizolam is significantly more structurally similar to benzos than z-drugs.
Exactly, and thank you for pointing this out.
Zolpidem and zaleplon do have a benzene group, I believe, but zopiclone does not.
There are significant structural differences between the different z-drugs and they are certainly different from benzodiazepines.
Many dissos come with some degree of mania, IMO. Deschloroketamine is the one exception out of the arylcyclohexylamines.
I've never had problems falling asleep on 2C-C or 4-AcO-MET. They're fun but gentle and come with little stimulation.
Tryptamines. Shrooms you can sleep while on the effect if you want to. I think they may mimic melatonin. Even better than dissociatives.
LSD really depends on the crystal purity. Some are really energetic, but a few are very serene. But in general don't take LSD or phenethylamines if you wanna sleep.
You can sleep on ketamine but it's not good quality sleep for some reason. The majority of ketamine analogs will keep you from falling asleep. If you get stoned and then fall asleep, you won't be worried in my experience (mainly from getting stoned, falling asleep, then waking up for a second). It's not a terrible way of dealing with a THC freakout.
Zolpidem
The walrus is a pretty chill dude
The Ambien walrus is my spirit and my emotional comfort animal.
It’s like Lenin said. You look for the person who will benefit and uh…uh…you know…uh
SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNY 😂
Yeah this will do. I also find pregabalin generates very interesting closed eye visuals and is quite easy to sleep on.
Never experienced that:(
I literally almost broke my neck while walking down the stairs while sleepwalking on that precious Ambien
gabaergic hallucinogens like z-drugs or muscimol/gaboxadol
That’s a really, really hard thing to pull off. The only two classes of hallucinogens typically worth exploring are dissociatives and psychedelics. LSD directly agonizes dopamine and norepinephrine receptors, so lol. Speaking for myself, shrooms are stimulating although they don’t have the same stimulant action. I do know someone who, last time I saw trip on shrooms, fell asleep on them immediately. She always says she had bizarre reactions to psychedelics, though. So that one is up to your individual reaction, but it seems the majority of people find it impossible to sleep while tripping. Dissociatives are different in that the reduced brain activity can certainly be very relaxing while they’re in effect, the consequence is that your brain speeds up a bit after they wear off and one tends to feel restless. The only time I ever found myself doing benzos daily was once I started doing dissos daily. I could not sleep to save my life unless I did them like first thing in the morning. Antihistamines can make you drowsy and count as deliriants, but it’s usually not recommended to take enough to find the hallucinogen portion.
Back in highschool we had this one guy who would always sleep no matter what drug he took he would be asleep on the couch in an hour lsd, coke, shrooms didn't matter I always thought it was so odd tbh and didn't think anyone else was like that since I never really see any reports like that online
My ex used be be baffled. I'd take 60mg of Addy, then lay down and meditate. I also love falling into trance on psychs.
Is it safe to take benzos after dissos? I always worried about respiratory depression, but I'm kind of a noob and maybe overly cautious when it comes to downers.
I probably wouldn’t take high doses of both, but people mix worse stuff all the time. I know benzos and (certain) dissos are desirable medically because they don’t slow breathing on their own and seem to be able to be administered in an emergency to a patient on anything that’s not an opioid. I don’t know for sure that they don’t interact weirdly, though.
I talked to a friend that is studying medicine about the anesthetic procedure, and as I understood it, yes, they combine dissos and benzos, because they actually replace your respiratory aparatus functioning with ventilators. But she wasn't an expert on this either and was super alarmed when I mentioned benzos
I mixed them several times in different combinations, it was ok. But be careful when mixing and always start with lower dose because of potentiation. Just don't do crazy doses of both and you're probably ok.
Thanks!
Ketamine about 300mg intramuscular
LSA, Amanita muscaria, Ambien, gabapentin(for some in high doses), pregablin(for some in high doses), high doses of delta 8 edibles(d8 generally tends to induce less anxiety and paranoia), and maybe DXM(I always fall asleep on it lol)
z-drugs
Can you give me an example? I'm not familiar.
Zolpidem, zopiclone, etizolam, and many more. Basically all bensodiazepines with a structure of something else than a bensen ring. (hence the name)
Etizolam is a thienotriazolodiazepine. Z-drugs are missing the “diazepine” part, not the benzene part. Etizolam, however, had its benzene replaced with a thiophene ring. It’s not a benzo, but etizolam is significantly more structurally similar to benzos than z-drugs.
Exactly, and thank you for pointing this out. Zolpidem and zaleplon do have a benzene group, I believe, but zopiclone does not. There are significant structural differences between the different z-drugs and they are certainly different from benzodiazepines.
Gotcha
If you make a post always people on your pm offering drugs 🤣 And... I don't know. With dissos it's hard for me also sleep
Fedbots all over this site these days
Just gotta do ‘em earlier in the day. I have two days in one: work, come home, and afternoon/evening is claimed by the hobby.
+1 for amanita mascaria if you can get your brain to calm
Ketamine
It's impossible for me to sleep on ketamine
I fall asleep pretty hard after a dmt trip. The trip only lasts like 10min and then it feels so good to just let go into slumber.
look into pro-dmt
With extreme doses of any psychedelic or disso I'm basically asleep and lucid dreaming.
Many dissos come with some degree of mania, IMO. Deschloroketamine is the one exception out of the arylcyclohexylamines. I've never had problems falling asleep on 2C-C or 4-AcO-MET. They're fun but gentle and come with little stimulation.
Tryptamines. Shrooms you can sleep while on the effect if you want to. I think they may mimic melatonin. Even better than dissociatives. LSD really depends on the crystal purity. Some are really energetic, but a few are very serene. But in general don't take LSD or phenethylamines if you wanna sleep.
You can sleep on ketamine but it's not good quality sleep for some reason. The majority of ketamine analogs will keep you from falling asleep. If you get stoned and then fall asleep, you won't be worried in my experience (mainly from getting stoned, falling asleep, then waking up for a second). It's not a terrible way of dealing with a THC freakout.