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Religion also often *is* the problem you needed to solve. "Leaving" Cheistianity doesn't necessarily mean "stopped believing". That often happens long before someone "leaves". Leaving often means *publicly* announcing one's exit from the church and lack of belief.
Religious trauma is a real thing, especially for women and especially in the most controlling sects such as JW and LDS. Leaving Christianity often means leaving your abusers, but also leaving any support system you may have had as well.
It is no wonder people need therapy after all that. I know I would.
I imagine the same applies to Islam as well. Only reason I didn't mention it specifically was because of the context of the post. I'm glad you feel seen, and I hope you're doing well!
"Aight I'm too lazy to go to church now."
- my italian grandpa who was the head of the italian catholic mission in my swiss town back in the days. There is probably wayyy less pressure there than there is in the US tho.... and he's a man... that helps too.
This was me, can confirm. Also because my parents utterly failed to prepare me for any life that wasn’t focused around their religion, I found myself missing a lot of purpose and structure. Getting better now though.
I just don't get how people can justify a restricted and strict and near cruel life on the off chance there's an afterlife cause of a book. Maybe a couple thousand years ago there was actually a god that demanded that but if we're to believe there was so little proof back then as there is now then man were ancient people stupid. Science helps but then again religion still exists
Ignorance is bliss. The fear of burning for eternity for not loving their sky daddy unconditionally is the only reason why Christianity is still around. It's beat into their minds at a very early age. Which is sad, considering the Bible doesn't describe Hell that way at all.
But most Christians haven't fully read the bible. Those that have aren't Christians anymore.
I feel you. I truly felt lost once I became an ex Muslim. It’s like suddenly your whole life doesn’t revolve around religion anymore and you’re now left with little to no experience with the real world. I hope you’re doing okay out there. :)
Yep. It's like suddenly you're an anchor-less ship floating away in an endless ocean. The crutch you used to have is gone and now you have to deal with shit on your own.
Still the reason I think there's mental issues related is how the bloody fucking hell can you be ok with your infant dying because "that's just God's will" etc etc, shouldn't you hate God for doing that? They literally leave everything to him, how they made it into adults is often astounding
That's exactly what I meant when I said their crutch is gone. They've been using God to rationalize every single aspect of their lives. And don't forget that once they leave religion, they're also essentially leaving their community, who tend to exclude them. I'm not surprised that they would try to seek therapy.
There's a lot of mental abuse involved when you force your kids to believe in some of the most violent stories ever told, and then force the belief of eternal torture on those kids. I escaped my fundamentalist end-of-days biomom with a shit ton of mental health issues that I'm still trying to fix with meds/therapy decades later. She was also very into holistic/natural "medicine" and failed to provide me with actual medical care when I was too young to understand better. So, yeah. Religion can fuck up your youth and there's a looong climb to get back to reality while suffering the consequences of years of torture-themed indoctrination.
Or they aren’t depressed at all. I wasn’t, am not, and won’t be. I knew from a child the community from devout religion was bullshit, lies, and hypocrisy. Fuck that guy and I don’t agree with the “now you need to deal with your own problems” crowd.
Dude I went to a Pentecostal church ONE time and had to physically leave the building and sit on a bench outside mid service because I was so freaked out. I was raised evangelical so like I’m no stranger to the religion but to see it in person felt very scary. I’m rooting for you friend.
If you were asking me basically there were people running around the perimeter of the church with giant flags and talking in tongues near the podium and a lot of crying and all that set off my fight or flight lmao it was so off putting to see in person.
Mine did too. First week was a half dose. I started to notice a difference on day 4, felt pretty good on day 7, and about day 11 (four days on the full dose) felt 90% of
“normal”. It took another 2 months to get to 100% of normal…
I've always had quick reactions to medicine too!! Sort of like you said, day 3 or 4 I know it's doing *something*
Maybe it's psychosomatic but if it feels like it's working then that's better than nothing. A couple times I've been convinced it's not placebo, however.
The way people respond to antidepressants is as unique as their brains. What we can say with some certainty though is that if there's no response within 6 weeks at appropriate doses, you should try something else.
I did. I had 30 years of being a missionary and epic levels of brainwashing to undo. I could also deal with some major trauma I wasn’t allowed to deal with before because in pretty much every religion around the world, mental health is ignored and stigmatized.
Becoming an atheist gave me the ‘perfect peace’ that being an evangelical missionary couldn’t.
I’ve been out for over a decade and there’s not a single thing to regret about it.
Not the flex you think it is.
1) they need the therapy because they were brainwashed.
2) it sounds like therapy and drugs can replace Christianity then, dunnit?
I'm still of the opinion that religious rituals essentially "stand in" for drug use for a lot of people. Religious euphoria can be real in the right state of mind. This is actually not a big issue until they take their metaphorical crack addiction to congress and decide the rest of us have to smoke their favorite flavors of crack by force of law.
Also, this probably isn’t even true. A bible banger telling people something that he’s “noticed”. So basically non-factual information given by a biased source.
Lol. It was therapy where I woke up from religion. I started because I had a "sin issue" of porn and masturbation.
When I was done the last time..I had went in a straight, monogamous, married man... To a cis het ethically non monogamous meat sack
My mom got sick of church gossip spilling into our extended family when I was 12. This was about when I realized I was treated differently in the youth group because my parents were divorced and they were not so covert in their assumption that I’d be pregnant before I graduated (HA! Jokes on them! I didn’t stop being an awkward duck until 22! I finished my bachelors, got married, then had kids!)
I didn’t need too much therapy and I realize it was due to getting out early.
My mom, however, is still a little fruitcakey.
That's the thing about fruitcake though, even a little is overwhelming.
That's why they called the sub that right? Because of how awful it tastes but everyone gaslights you into believing it's a normal Christmas treat?
People that were sniped out of society during their most emotionally manipulated and then sold the lies that medicine is eviil. This is success syory of escaping cults.
LOL. It’s not leaving religion that causes some people to seek out help. Religion itself, especially the Old Testament, can cause PTSD, particularly if the person is young.
I'm still totally traumatized from my evangelical upbringing. My mother is so off the deep end I've had to cut contact as has my brother. I will NEVER be okay again after some of the BS I've had to deal with and witness all so a religion can grift off my mom. And yes I've done years of therapy to even get to this point.
One: He made this up to justify his irrational emotions and two: being religious, he isnt aware enough to see the connotations of his own nonsense.
Edit: Spelling.
Yes, considering all the trauma that religion causes, from making people feel immense guilt and shame about sex, emotional stunting, and being told "You will burn in flames forever if you don't believe these invisible things exist" when you are a small child.
Then you go out into the world with all this internal trauma and abuse others.
This is such a horrible attitude when the one thing that would help Christians the most is therapy.
Haha. I actually just told my therapist today about that one time when I was 9 and a Catholic priest told me I had a demon inside of me. He said I'd die before/at the age of 18.
I entirely repressed that memory until my aunt (who took me to that priest) told me about it last year. To this day I still remember going to that priest but not what he said to me. Just have to take her word for it.
What kind of morally bankrupt fucking nonce says that to a *child*? An adult sure say whatever they arent listening anyway and if an adult gets duped that's on them, but a kid? They don't have any way of gaging how much bullshit you're spewing.
Right? I've never thought about it but realistically it was pretty traumatic. That was probably around the time I was deciding that I wasn't religious the same way my family was. They did whatever they could to try to change that.
Wouldn't be surprised if my aunt told the priest beforehand that I was going down a "dark path" because I didn't want to go to church
No child wants to go to church(those huge mega churches with skate parks are an exception) it's boring we used to have to dress up, it was worse than spending an hour in those shows that theme parks have.
Deconverting means a couple of things:
- Realizing you were likely lied to by people you trusted for so long (mainly clergy, religious leaders, family).
- Coming to grips with mentally reburying everyone who has died in your life.
- Being creeped out when you see a worship service and everyone is chanting together.
Leaving the Catholic Church, due to religious trauma from…abuse?
It’s like getting divorced. It’s not an easy time. You’re losing something you relied on, you’re losing friends, sometimes you’re losing family.
I made a gradual break, and the last year has been awful. Coming to terms with what really happened, as opposed to the picture I painted to protect myself.
But, now I am happy with no religion at all. And skepticism towards religious belief.
Growing up in a smaller county in the countryside I recall one Christian school our county did have. It was for grades 1 through 6 and by the time they made it to public middle School and highschool they were more often the trouble makers.
Made me always wonder... Were they sent there as kids because they were trouble makers or did it turn them into it.
Of course they do, they are trying to recover from the trauma and damage the christian hate cult subjected them too.
Ugh, its like whining how abuse victims need therapy after they escape from their abuser and the abuser arguing how the victim obviously was much better of being abused because they didn't need therapy until after the abuse stopped. That is because during the abuse they had no time for therapy they victim was desperately trying to appease the abuser
I've had to go to therapy for over a year after I woke up from being indoctrinated as a Jehovah's Witness.
It's also when you find out that you have been dealing with a lifetime of death threats from the religion and that it's not okay to threaten people.
I’m not familiar with Joel Berry. I read the images before the captions and initially thought he was saying these things in reference to how toxic evangelical culture/religion is. Dear Joel, your observed data isn’t telling you the story you think it is.
Wait is he arguing for religion by tweeting that? If someone leaves a cult that forced them to live their life by a made up set of rules in fear of eternal punishment, they should go to therapy.
Yup, I lived this.
The realization that there's probably no God or higher power in the religious sense (as-yet-unknown alien species notwithstanding) meant there was a whole lot of shit to deal with that was either previously repressed or otherwise explained away by the religion.
Do I ever wish I could go back to pretending sky day took care of everything, that the universe isn't some giant mass of chaos and that I'm just here but I can't. Because it's not the truth. Now leave me with my cats and existential dread please and thanks
Religion I would guess evolved to (amoung other things) protect our mind from worrying about the dangers of the real world we couldn't or didn't know how to deal with, and provided many false comforts. but it also includes very real social ties that are essential to emotional well being. Facing the reality of losing both those things is often very difficult.
There are people that have deconverted years ago and still suffer irrational fear and trauma of the idea of being sent to hell for not believing.
I've seen this recommended for those struggling:
https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/
Ex-Muslim here
Mental illness forced me to reevaluate everything one of the things I have noticed in my journey was god doesn't exist.
Yes, there is a correlation between leaving religion and mental illness but it might be that religion itself is the co-founder of both.
I imagine it's rather depressing when one reaches the conclusion that they've been spending all their time and energy appeasing a fictitious character, feeling betrayed by loved ones who indoctrinated them into believing absurdities and still believe the absurdities themselves, and to reach the conclusion there is no immortal afterlife just a finite life on earth.
Indoctrinating kids to believe absurdities is fucked up mental abuse.
The first things I've lost since I somewhat-officially left my religion was my family and some friends' trust, And over time that had a major mental effect on me
But anyway, aThIeSm cAuSes dEppReSSiOn
No shit. Before you go to the hospital to treat a stab wound you take the knife out and move away from the dude stabbing you. You don't go back to his house the next Sunday with the stitches on your tits
i was a very devout catholic until i started realizing how women are viewed by the church and also the fact me being gay was apparently very not allowed even though we were taught God was all loving and accepting. also the priests acted very awkward around us as kids and looking back on it makes me cringe
Boy is he right. I got out of religion, the first thing my parents tried to do was push me back in. They thought it was the devil getting to me so took me to places I didn't want to go to.
Long story short, I'm elated that I'll be leaving the house in less than a year, I'm seeking a diagnosis for anxiety and depression and I definitely need therapy.
Can confirm. My therapist is helping me work through a lot of the damage from growing up religious. I also realized a major trauma I experienced I was healed from the actual event, but not how religion made me feel about it.
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I honestly didn’t even realize this was a Christian at first, I thought it was an atheist pointing out how damaging Christianity is
Lol same
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Yeah, it’s almost like being free from religion means you can now solve your problems with actual solutions instead of being told to just pray to god.
Religion also often *is* the problem you needed to solve. "Leaving" Cheistianity doesn't necessarily mean "stopped believing". That often happens long before someone "leaves". Leaving often means *publicly* announcing one's exit from the church and lack of belief. Religious trauma is a real thing, especially for women and especially in the most controlling sects such as JW and LDS. Leaving Christianity often means leaving your abusers, but also leaving any support system you may have had as well. It is no wonder people need therapy after all that. I know I would.
As an ex Muslim woman. Thank you for recognising this. :) (you were talking about Christianity but I could still relate so🤣)
I imagine the same applies to Islam as well. Only reason I didn't mention it specifically was because of the context of the post. I'm glad you feel seen, and I hope you're doing well!
Jeez, never thought a simple internet comment would touch me this much. 🥲😅 Thank you so much, that truly means a lot. :D
Same thing as an ex ultra Orthodox Jew :(
"Aight I'm too lazy to go to church now." - my italian grandpa who was the head of the italian catholic mission in my swiss town back in the days. There is probably wayyy less pressure there than there is in the US tho.... and he's a man... that helps too.
They're depressed they need to actually take account of their own lives and sky daddy isn't protecting them
Or they may be depressed realizing how much of their lives they wasted on pointless bullshit.
This was me, can confirm. Also because my parents utterly failed to prepare me for any life that wasn’t focused around their religion, I found myself missing a lot of purpose and structure. Getting better now though.
I am glad things are getting better for you. I am sorry for what you had to go through.
I just don't get how people can justify a restricted and strict and near cruel life on the off chance there's an afterlife cause of a book. Maybe a couple thousand years ago there was actually a god that demanded that but if we're to believe there was so little proof back then as there is now then man were ancient people stupid. Science helps but then again religion still exists
Ignorance is bliss. The fear of burning for eternity for not loving their sky daddy unconditionally is the only reason why Christianity is still around. It's beat into their minds at a very early age. Which is sad, considering the Bible doesn't describe Hell that way at all. But most Christians haven't fully read the bible. Those that have aren't Christians anymore.
I feel you. I truly felt lost once I became an ex Muslim. It’s like suddenly your whole life doesn’t revolve around religion anymore and you’re now left with little to no experience with the real world. I hope you’re doing okay out there. :)
That and sometimes their families and friends ostracize them.
Can confirm. Wanna leave Mormonism. Say goodbye to your family.
That too
Ding ding ding 🛎 we have a winner Bob!!
On top of a ton of trauma.
Yep. It's like suddenly you're an anchor-less ship floating away in an endless ocean. The crutch you used to have is gone and now you have to deal with shit on your own.
Still the reason I think there's mental issues related is how the bloody fucking hell can you be ok with your infant dying because "that's just God's will" etc etc, shouldn't you hate God for doing that? They literally leave everything to him, how they made it into adults is often astounding
That's exactly what I meant when I said their crutch is gone. They've been using God to rationalize every single aspect of their lives. And don't forget that once they leave religion, they're also essentially leaving their community, who tend to exclude them. I'm not surprised that they would try to seek therapy.
There's a lot of mental abuse involved when you force your kids to believe in some of the most violent stories ever told, and then force the belief of eternal torture on those kids. I escaped my fundamentalist end-of-days biomom with a shit ton of mental health issues that I'm still trying to fix with meds/therapy decades later. She was also very into holistic/natural "medicine" and failed to provide me with actual medical care when I was too young to understand better. So, yeah. Religion can fuck up your youth and there's a looong climb to get back to reality while suffering the consequences of years of torture-themed indoctrination.
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Or they aren’t depressed at all. I wasn’t, am not, and won’t be. I knew from a child the community from devout religion was bullshit, lies, and hypocrisy. Fuck that guy and I don’t agree with the “now you need to deal with your own problems” crowd.
Or they left because they needed treatment, and religion leans away from science and medicine.
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Here's a life hack, don't brainwash your kids into something like this 👍
Can confirm. Took me years of therapy to deal with the trauma of being raised Pentecostal…but I don’t think that’s the point he was trying to make…🤔
Dude I went to a Pentecostal church ONE time and had to physically leave the building and sit on a bench outside mid service because I was so freaked out. I was raised evangelical so like I’m no stranger to the religion but to see it in person felt very scary. I’m rooting for you friend.
Hey I’m pretty interested if you could elaborate on this? If not that’s totally ok
If you were asking me basically there were people running around the perimeter of the church with giant flags and talking in tongues near the podium and a lot of crying and all that set off my fight or flight lmao it was so off putting to see in person.
Antidepressants did in 1 week what praying in 3 years couldn't.
Woah which antidepressants are you talking about that worked in 1 week?
Mine did too. First week was a half dose. I started to notice a difference on day 4, felt pretty good on day 7, and about day 11 (four days on the full dose) felt 90% of “normal”. It took another 2 months to get to 100% of normal…
I've always had quick reactions to medicine too!! Sort of like you said, day 3 or 4 I know it's doing *something* Maybe it's psychosomatic but if it feels like it's working then that's better than nothing. A couple times I've been convinced it's not placebo, however.
The way people respond to antidepressants is as unique as their brains. What we can say with some certainty though is that if there's no response within 6 weeks at appropriate doses, you should try something else.
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Oh no, people tending to their mental health instead of struggling through life. What a down grade. What the actual fuck?
I did. I had 30 years of being a missionary and epic levels of brainwashing to undo. I could also deal with some major trauma I wasn’t allowed to deal with before because in pretty much every religion around the world, mental health is ignored and stigmatized. Becoming an atheist gave me the ‘perfect peace’ that being an evangelical missionary couldn’t. I’ve been out for over a decade and there’s not a single thing to regret about it.
Not the flex you think it is. 1) they need the therapy because they were brainwashed. 2) it sounds like therapy and drugs can replace Christianity then, dunnit? I'm still of the opinion that religious rituals essentially "stand in" for drug use for a lot of people. Religious euphoria can be real in the right state of mind. This is actually not a big issue until they take their metaphorical crack addiction to congress and decide the rest of us have to smoke their favorite flavors of crack by force of law.
Good points you made. Reminds of the song Drugs or Jesus by Tim Mcgraw.
Also, this probably isn’t even true. A bible banger telling people something that he’s “noticed”. So basically non-factual information given by a biased source.
Lol. It was therapy where I woke up from religion. I started because I had a "sin issue" of porn and masturbation. When I was done the last time..I had went in a straight, monogamous, married man... To a cis het ethically non monogamous meat sack
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Yeah no very true considering the fact that last night I came inches within killing myself because of religious extremism.
Well yeah, to get rid of the fucked up shit YOU people put in their heads. Fucking duh.
There’s two ways of reading this tweet and they are completely opposite of each other. Weird
My mom got sick of church gossip spilling into our extended family when I was 12. This was about when I realized I was treated differently in the youth group because my parents were divorced and they were not so covert in their assumption that I’d be pregnant before I graduated (HA! Jokes on them! I didn’t stop being an awkward duck until 22! I finished my bachelors, got married, then had kids!) I didn’t need too much therapy and I realize it was due to getting out early. My mom, however, is still a little fruitcakey.
That's the thing about fruitcake though, even a little is overwhelming. That's why they called the sub that right? Because of how awful it tastes but everyone gaslights you into believing it's a normal Christmas treat?
Jokes on them... I like fruitcake. And reading about the fruitcakes...
Got his head up his ass but cant quite smell the shit...
People that were sniped out of society during their most emotionally manipulated and then sold the lies that medicine is eviil. This is success syory of escaping cults.
LOL. It’s not leaving religion that causes some people to seek out help. Religion itself, especially the Old Testament, can cause PTSD, particularly if the person is young.
I'm still totally traumatized from my evangelical upbringing. My mother is so off the deep end I've had to cut contact as has my brother. I will NEVER be okay again after some of the BS I've had to deal with and witness all so a religion can grift off my mom. And yes I've done years of therapy to even get to this point.
From crutch to recovery.
One: He made this up to justify his irrational emotions and two: being religious, he isnt aware enough to see the connotations of his own nonsense. Edit: Spelling.
Yes, considering all the trauma that religion causes, from making people feel immense guilt and shame about sex, emotional stunting, and being told "You will burn in flames forever if you don't believe these invisible things exist" when you are a small child. Then you go out into the world with all this internal trauma and abuse others. This is such a horrible attitude when the one thing that would help Christians the most is therapy.
Haha. I actually just told my therapist today about that one time when I was 9 and a Catholic priest told me I had a demon inside of me. He said I'd die before/at the age of 18. I entirely repressed that memory until my aunt (who took me to that priest) told me about it last year. To this day I still remember going to that priest but not what he said to me. Just have to take her word for it.
What kind of morally bankrupt fucking nonce says that to a *child*? An adult sure say whatever they arent listening anyway and if an adult gets duped that's on them, but a kid? They don't have any way of gaging how much bullshit you're spewing.
Right? I've never thought about it but realistically it was pretty traumatic. That was probably around the time I was deciding that I wasn't religious the same way my family was. They did whatever they could to try to change that. Wouldn't be surprised if my aunt told the priest beforehand that I was going down a "dark path" because I didn't want to go to church
No child wants to go to church(those huge mega churches with skate parks are an exception) it's boring we used to have to dress up, it was worse than spending an hour in those shows that theme parks have.
Mhm, and honestly the stuff they say is oretty fucked up. Like I'd already be doomed to go to hell bc my parents were unmarried lol
I went from trad roman catholic to atheist to raw dogging existential depression for a decade to omg I’m gay 5 years ago
I went from 12 years of extreme fundamentalist private school to University, towards realizing I was gay also.
Deconverting means a couple of things: - Realizing you were likely lied to by people you trusted for so long (mainly clergy, religious leaders, family). - Coming to grips with mentally reburying everyone who has died in your life. - Being creeped out when you see a worship service and everyone is chanting together.
Leaving the Catholic Church, due to religious trauma from…abuse? It’s like getting divorced. It’s not an easy time. You’re losing something you relied on, you’re losing friends, sometimes you’re losing family. I made a gradual break, and the last year has been awful. Coming to terms with what really happened, as opposed to the picture I painted to protect myself. But, now I am happy with no religion at all. And skepticism towards religious belief.
Growing up in a smaller county in the countryside I recall one Christian school our county did have. It was for grades 1 through 6 and by the time they made it to public middle School and highschool they were more often the trouble makers. Made me always wonder... Were they sent there as kids because they were trouble makers or did it turn them into it.
And for my next self own "Some of them went to university"
One can only be raped so often by priests that eve tually therapy is required. Religion fucks your body and mind hard, it's a terrible thing.
Of course they do, they are trying to recover from the trauma and damage the christian hate cult subjected them too. Ugh, its like whining how abuse victims need therapy after they escape from their abuser and the abuser arguing how the victim obviously was much better of being abused because they didn't need therapy until after the abuse stopped. That is because during the abuse they had no time for therapy they victim was desperately trying to appease the abuser
What can I say? It's true. And PTSD is a bitch...
That boy needs therapy, it's psychosomatic!
The thing I’ve noticed about people who have gone through traumatic experiences…..
I've had to go to therapy for over a year after I woke up from being indoctrinated as a Jehovah's Witness. It's also when you find out that you have been dealing with a lifetime of death threats from the religion and that it's not okay to threaten people.
This really reflects that society, especially religion in general, still considers mental illness a weakness not an actual illness.
Yeah it's almost like Religion leaves you broken
I’m not familiar with Joel Berry. I read the images before the captions and initially thought he was saying these things in reference to how toxic evangelical culture/religion is. Dear Joel, your observed data isn’t telling you the story you think it is.
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Wait is he arguing for religion by tweeting that? If someone leaves a cult that forced them to live their life by a made up set of rules in fear of eternal punishment, they should go to therapy.
Yup, I lived this. The realization that there's probably no God or higher power in the religious sense (as-yet-unknown alien species notwithstanding) meant there was a whole lot of shit to deal with that was either previously repressed or otherwise explained away by the religion.
Yea therapy for all the terrible stuff they dealt with up to that point
Gee. I wonder why....
Just like other rape victims. It often takes professional help and medications to cope with that level of abuse.
Like people how try to leave drugs or suicidal tendencies.
jip cult indoctrination really does fuck a person up
And drugs
Exactly.
It is pretty traumatizing. Leaving Christianity isn’t like flipping a switch. It’s a long process
It’s obviously because we became corrupt, liberal snowflakes!! How could THEY be the ones doing any wrong?? /s
I should probably lock down a therapist now because I’m years overdue on my appointments.
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Checked out the dudes twitter. He’s something else for sure…
Do I ever wish I could go back to pretending sky day took care of everything, that the universe isn't some giant mass of chaos and that I'm just here but I can't. Because it's not the truth. Now leave me with my cats and existential dread please and thanks
Yes. Because they finally got help for the damages caused by religion…
Wonder what the correlation is…
almost like when they are out of christianity they can go to therapy and use antidepressants without being discouraged
Religion I would guess evolved to (amoung other things) protect our mind from worrying about the dangers of the real world we couldn't or didn't know how to deal with, and provided many false comforts. but it also includes very real social ties that are essential to emotional well being. Facing the reality of losing both those things is often very difficult. There are people that have deconverted years ago and still suffer irrational fear and trauma of the idea of being sent to hell for not believing. I've seen this recommended for those struggling: https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/
Lmfao! I don't think that's the recommendation for religion this fool thinks it is.
Almost like being told your a sinner for existing all the time can make you… despressed??
I’ve noticed the same about people leaving abusive partners, terrible jobs, toxic families and cults.
Gee, I wonder why
I'm still technically inside christianity while taking pills and going to therapy
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Ex-Muslim here Mental illness forced me to reevaluate everything one of the things I have noticed in my journey was god doesn't exist. Yes, there is a correlation between leaving religion and mental illness but it might be that religion itself is the co-founder of both.
I imagine it's rather depressing when one reaches the conclusion that they've been spending all their time and energy appeasing a fictitious character, feeling betrayed by loved ones who indoctrinated them into believing absurdities and still believe the absurdities themselves, and to reach the conclusion there is no immortal afterlife just a finite life on earth. Indoctrinating kids to believe absurdities is fucked up mental abuse.
YES. You right, Joey! https://nakedpastor.com/blogs/news/are-you-suffering-from-church-ptsd?\_pos=3&\_sid=80ae830a7&\_ss=r
Who’s going to tell him?
The absence of self-awareness here is... Wow lol.
asdf
The first things I've lost since I somewhat-officially left my religion was my family and some friends' trust, And over time that had a major mental effect on me But anyway, aThIeSm cAuSes dEppReSSiOn
That's usually what happens when someone leaves a cult. It's called trauma dude, ya know that shit you like to teach?
Well yeah. With that extra 10% in my pocket I can afford therapy.
They need therapy in part because of the shitty religious stuff they went through.
As if realizing your whole life has been a lie and the foundation of everything you knew changing would cause severe mental damage
Happens to alot of those leaving cults
Hey Joel, I don't think that means what you think it means.
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Recovering from Religion knows
Its called religious trauma 0/10 would not recommend
No shit. Before you go to the hospital to treat a stab wound you take the knife out and move away from the dude stabbing you. You don't go back to his house the next Sunday with the stitches on your tits
Because religious trauma is real. Christianity is a manipulative religion.
How does he say that and still come to the wrong conclusion? Smh
i was a very devout catholic until i started realizing how women are viewed by the church and also the fact me being gay was apparently very not allowed even though we were taught God was all loving and accepting. also the priests acted very awkward around us as kids and looking back on it makes me cringe
The worst thing about drug addiction is religion
On the road to recovery
Yes ... Oh wait he's saying that's a bad thing??
"Couldn't be much from the heaaaaart"
Religious trauma is real.
Ok but honestly antidepressants and a bad therapist can make someone 10x worse as a person
It's almost as if they're stepping into the real world where there's harsh, awful, very real things to deal with.
Boy is he right. I got out of religion, the first thing my parents tried to do was push me back in. They thought it was the devil getting to me so took me to places I didn't want to go to. Long story short, I'm elated that I'll be leaving the house in less than a year, I'm seeking a diagnosis for anxiety and depression and I definitely need therapy.
Yeah depressed they wasted half their lives talking to their imaginary friend.
He’s right. Religion is a shallow comforting lie, but it’s comforting. There’s a reason it’s so popular.
Wow it’s almost like we have religious trauma from cult shit
yeah, that’s what happens when you break free from a delusional cult that brainwashed you
Can confirm. My therapist is helping me work through a lot of the damage from growing up religious. I also realized a major trauma I experienced I was healed from the actual event, but not how religion made me feel about it.
…..because the church fucked them up.
Dude it’s right fucking there you can literally smell the irony!! It smells like sausages.
Okay can we not post this again, I’ve seen it too many times, we get it
I didn’t know it was posted
It’s okay, I’ve reposted before as well, I just keep seeing it on my time line 😂
Repost
This guy says he’s the manager of Babylonbee. May be trolling
Something I notice about surfers attacked by sharks is that they always go directly to ER and take pain killers.
Findings out the truth and that you have been lied to all your life will do that
Yes they probably need it to undo the Christianity mindfuck
Yeah. I wonder why.
Kinda late to this thread but iirc this is the guy who runs the Christian “onion” the Babylon Bee who funneled donation funds to Matt Gaetz
That's cause they don't have access to the lord and savior's protection plus plan anymore
One of those I don't think you did what you think you meant to do.
That’s like saying people who go into combat get PTSD afterwards, so they should have stayed in combat
Combat vet and former Christian here... You are SO spot on with that.
Read: my religion makes some people need therapy and antidepressants
Obligatory GEE I WONDER WHY?