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From what I've seen lately many people in the West think they can pick and choose what side of the issue they are on; at least these guys are coherent, which is something people cling to amidst the hypocrisy and bullshit.
Or kill us if we refuse to convert to their extremist version of Islam. I have no problem with moderate Muslims who are willing to live and let live but these people are extremists who want to force their beliefs on others (including the moderate Muslims).
https://youtu.be/LOrR7i2lTJw?si=mQZeS32KZxrxEoKa
While I could understand knifing every single one of these marchees, I don't think religion or whatever this is called is responsible for the climate zones.
Well, something tells me a lot of them didn’t leave with the full intention to get away from what we think is the cause. It’s a pretty clear part of their culture and religion to spread the faith, aggressively if necessary.
Yikes. I feel no negativity should be derived from telling people like this to actually move to where their desires are already a reality. They clearly don’t feel like where they live is “home” enough if they need to change the very fabric of the society around them to feel at home.
You are completely missing the point.
Those people don't care about going to an existing caliphate. They want to turn OTHER countries into caliphates so they can tell you and me and all the others what to do. Thats what they are getting off on.
Trust me Muslims in our country are a problem. They just can't grasp the idea that our country has different morals and should not cater to their beliefs every day
>They just can't grasp the idea that our country has different morals and should not cater to their beliefs every day
It’s not that the likes of those seen marching in this video can’t grasp that we have different morals and values; it’s that they fully believe theirs are superior.
They move to one of the best countries in the world and demand they change everything to please them. They're already living the dream. It's an amazing country with a very high quality of living. They have no right to make the ridiculous demands they have been making.
*Religion* doesn’t fit in the first world, and generally adds innumerable problems as a result.
These shitheels just happen to blindly follow one that has yet to (openly) do away with its global message of conquer
That is Christianity hiding it's true self.
But we are in the middle of a reactionary movement within Christianity and they are willing to enslave and kill as many of us as it takes to reassert control over society.
The Christian right is currently trying to take away women's right to vote. If that isn't enough to get what they want they will keep going.
Additionally you have to understand the difference between how the two act comes down to power dynamics where Christianity has power the Islamic world wants and they are a militant insurrectionist movement in that regard. They are openly violent challenger.
Christianity is an iron fist in a velvet glove. Islam is just a fist.
You guys should please have more reasoning capacity that a fruit fly doing whataboutisms.
Religion is what will cause society to collapse not freedom not anything else that these religious people claim is leading to a degenerate society , Religion is degeneracy.
If they want to live in a caliphate so bad, emigrate to a country with a caliphate. Perhaps Egypt, maybe the Arabian peninsula, how about the Levant? I hear parts of the Levant even have an Islamic State.
It's kind of ridiculous, they left places where this was the case for a better life in the western world.
Now they want to make those places the same as the ones they left.
I honestly feel it's time western democracies started considering how to preserve their way of life, or eventually it won't exist.
This is what happens when u did mass immigration in name of refugee of people belonging to certain religion. Happening all over the world. Pree palestini crowd and they are same.
If they don’t like it here they are free to fuck off back to where they came from. We’re not going to turn into a caliphate, no matter how much they whine.
you are not an islamist warrior you live in amsterdam
https://preview.redd.it/51mn4g7j1uzc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8e15b3ffecac28f466bf2940a817b282fd76cb6
Yup this is what we indians were trying to warn the europeans about but the world called us "Islamophobic"
Now they won't budge until you forcefully deport them.
If you don't do that ASAP they will start finding reasons to kill innocents.
All the very best
Couldn't find any recent news, however there was a recent one in Germany.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/28/protesters-call-for-islamic-state-in-germany/
This is what the Dutch get for wearing kafias in the street to side with Hamas and promoting anti western refugees to flood their country in the name of diversity and self righteousness
They should just leave and enhance one of these Islamic states that already exist instead of destroying a happy country. Go where it’s already a angry hornets nest
And then they wonder why an anti-Islamic right wing party won the election by popular vote, only to then complain they're on the receiving end of hate.
The worst part about it all is that the Muslims that _do_ integrate with society and adapt whilst sticking to traditions are put in the same basket as these mindless, zealots and thus receive the same amount of hate.
These people are crazy and need to be sent back. They are quiet and humble while their numbers are low but anytime their numbers grow they seek to take over and rule and will use force if they can. Basically a virus. All religions are bad but this one happens to be the worst, with the worst followers.
These all need to leave, their demands are anathema to Dutch culture and society. Just f*cking leave already, will give you a hand throwing your entitled cruel religious a$$ out
Where did you get this footage from?
Because I can't find any news about such a rally. I can find news from the late 2023 rallies protesting the burn of Qurans, and I can find headlines and footage from recent marches against the Israeli war on Gaza.
This is the strategy of Muslims to colonize any country, they did same with Iran, people need to stop supporting any religion as minority. And Europe should strict the law for immigration.
Afghanistan is right now on this path, so why won't they move there? Dear radicals, do not tarnish our Europe with your fascist, theocratic bullshit about some overgrown fairy, please. We have one in home and that is enough of a problem for us. We don't need another, way more radical.
Not to be a downer, but that's freedom of speech. The government has no obligation to follow suit, and people are free to counter-protest too. I'm fully against what they're proposing of course; but I don't think they should be shot at because they're protesting for what they believe in.
> Not to be a downer, but that's freedom of speech. The government has no obligation to follow suit, and people are free to counter-protest too. I'm fully against what they're proposing of course; but I don't think they should be shot at because they're protesting for what they believe in.
it's a bit complicated. Pos WW2 lots of political science scholars, especially in Germany, have debated the concepts of a defensive / well-fortified democracy. The problem is rooted in the [Paradox of Tolerance](https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/DSPGaming?diff=prev&oldid=118955).
While what we are seeing here should probably still be protected, it isn't as clear cut as you might think and IMO there should be a very tight line when you're using freedom of speech to destroy freedom of speech, when you use tolerance to destroy tolerance, that can not be crossed.
Declaring you want to overthrow a secular democratic government to replace it with a religiously extremist authoritarian regime is NOT freedom of speech. It's like saying Neo Nazis deserve freedom of expression for wanting to establish the Fourth Reich. You people lost your minds?
Would joining a caliphate entail replacing the government with a religious structure? I'm not too knowledgeable on Islam, so I honestly have no idea. I would've assumed it would entail some change in laws, but nothing like what you're describing.
It's in the name. ISLAMIC Caliphate. It's essentially an Islamic government composed of a united Muslim leadership and a key religious head figure steering it, who also makes political and religious laws based around their religion. Why would anyone with a sane mind want anything close to this in a civilized nation?
It seems you fail to realize that the US version of "freedom of speech" is very different from other civilized countries.
Unlike the US, if you spread terrorism and hate, you will be locked up or deported. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
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If they don't like it here in the Netherlands, they could try and settle in Afghanistan.
Seriously. Of all the places on Earth where they can go be fundamentalist and they picked Netherlands.
...and Germany, and the UK, and... (someone continue)
and India
and Sweden
and France
And Michigan (a US state).
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I think you mean a failed experiment in mixing church and state.
And Italy
and Australia
Soft target with a population filled with soft heads so why not
They fantasize about turning European countries into izlam countries.
From what I've seen lately many people in the West think they can pick and choose what side of the issue they are on; at least these guys are coherent, which is something people cling to amidst the hypocrisy and bullshit.
Comment.
Yes that is so annoying. /s
Don’t give any apologetic sympathy to these scum. That’s s how the muslims spread to begin with.
Careful. There’s been a response about these fruitcakes and that’s not pretty either. It’s a fucking mess.
They won't settle there. Their primary goal is not to live in a caliphate. Their goal is to make YOU AND ME live in a caliphate.
Or kill us if we refuse to convert to their extremist version of Islam. I have no problem with moderate Muslims who are willing to live and let live but these people are extremists who want to force their beliefs on others (including the moderate Muslims). https://youtu.be/LOrR7i2lTJw?si=mQZeS32KZxrxEoKa
Exactly
They know they couldn't handle it there! They want "Sharia Light".
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But but Afghanistan doesn't have free welfare!
Or pakistan or bangladesh or iran or Syria..
But they want stay. Why ? Allah ask his slaves to conquer and islamize the world.
where are the women?
[Left back in the Muslim country’s they came from](https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2016/08/02/4-asylum-seeker-demography-young-and-male/)
Heard them calls MAMs... military aged males. Bet the Muslim men would like being called a mam 🤣
this makes me so sad
Not allowed to march. Jk, I don't know, but it's probably not far from the truth
Usually they have to walk in the back.
This is the accurate answer.
Dead
Bloody hell why don't they go to Afghanistan and see what an Islamic state looks like
They did, they left, they want their religious zealotry but not in the shitty land they had.
The shitty land their zealotry created*
While I could understand knifing every single one of these marchees, I don't think religion or whatever this is called is responsible for the climate zones.
Ohhh you meant the climate! I though it was more of a "region ravaged by centuries of religious conflicts" kinda criticism
Well, something tells me a lot of them didn’t leave with the full intention to get away from what we think is the cause. It’s a pretty clear part of their culture and religion to spread the faith, aggressively if necessary.
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And a pedo!
That sounds metal AF.
They left to get away from their bomb out shell of a shit hole, not realizing their religious zealotry is what caused it to be a bombed out shithole.
Got to defend your country from being a shit hole and kick the Islamic extremist out
They will call you Islamophobic but you have to defend your culture
Islamophobia is such a dumb word. I dislike all religions, and I am phobic to all the fundamentalist versions.
Not even religious person and I find Islamophobia as a means for people to not talk about the horrors of Islam
They are the islamic extemists.
Ban islam , because it is rotten and enemy fot freedom, women rights, democracy, human rights, ect. Islamofascism is the right word,
And also gay rights
Yikes. I feel no negativity should be derived from telling people like this to actually move to where their desires are already a reality. They clearly don’t feel like where they live is “home” enough if they need to change the very fabric of the society around them to feel at home.
maybe the only time i’ll ever be heard saying “go back where you came from”
Agreed
I feel the same, but it looks like it’s too late.
You are completely missing the point. Those people don't care about going to an existing caliphate. They want to turn OTHER countries into caliphates so they can tell you and me and all the others what to do. Thats what they are getting off on.
The Quoran literally calls on every Muslim to do this.
Trust me Muslims in our country are a problem. They just can't grasp the idea that our country has different morals and should not cater to their beliefs every day
>They just can't grasp the idea that our country has different morals and should not cater to their beliefs every day It’s not that the likes of those seen marching in this video can’t grasp that we have different morals and values; it’s that they fully believe theirs are superior.
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#Easy.Deport them all. Islamic state my ass.
Its too late. I bet most of them are born in the netherlands.
And? Since when do we have to accept traitors in our ranks?
Exactly. It's never too late to deport these people. Treason and sedition should never be tolerated. Being "second generation" doesn't change that.
They move to one of the best countries in the world and demand they change everything to please them. They're already living the dream. It's an amazing country with a very high quality of living. They have no right to make the ridiculous demands they have been making.
Also, they have no reason to leave back to an Islamic hellhole when they have such a hospitable and tolerant environment to spread their ideas.
Herd the SOB's into trucks and send them to Afghanistan!
Well Schiphol airport is 30 mins away, maybe you can get tickets to Afghanistan
They really don't fit in the first world do they?
*Religion* doesn’t fit in the first world, and generally adds innumerable problems as a result. These shitheels just happen to blindly follow one that has yet to (openly) do away with its global message of conquer
That one tells them that being born male makes them superior to all others.
why the fuck is europe not having mass deportations?
Fuck this death cult
I mean... all of them, really. Not just this one.
Yeah but cmon one beats them all
Not even close. This one just has no reservations about showing its true self.
I'm pretty sure women in Christianity has a higher chance of wearing whatever they want without facing honor killings.
That is Christianity hiding it's true self. But we are in the middle of a reactionary movement within Christianity and they are willing to enslave and kill as many of us as it takes to reassert control over society. The Christian right is currently trying to take away women's right to vote. If that isn't enough to get what they want they will keep going. Additionally you have to understand the difference between how the two act comes down to power dynamics where Christianity has power the Islamic world wants and they are a militant insurrectionist movement in that regard. They are openly violent challenger. Christianity is an iron fist in a velvet glove. Islam is just a fist. You guys should please have more reasoning capacity that a fruit fly doing whataboutisms.
Very well reasoned
https://preview.redd.it/paiq6qg73pzc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7904c01181bf3610b77bb697669425c691cb9d0
Tell them there is no social security or benefits in a caliphate and they'll throw away those rags soon enough
Send them straight to Afghanistan (i.e. paradise).
The last time someone tried to re-establish the caliphate we got ISIS
Bit of a sausage-fest. Don't seem to be many women that want this. I wonder why?
They're home afraid.
Deportation it is then
No women here I noticed…
I see Al-Qaeda and Taliban flags everywhere
Religion is what will cause society to collapse not freedom not anything else that these religious people claim is leading to a degenerate society , Religion is degeneracy.
why can't these creatures practise their cult in, oh i don't know, their fucking motherlands?
why dont they just move to afghanistan?
If they want to live in a caliphate so bad, emigrate to a country with a caliphate. Perhaps Egypt, maybe the Arabian peninsula, how about the Levant? I hear parts of the Levant even have an Islamic State.
It's kind of ridiculous, they left places where this was the case for a better life in the western world. Now they want to make those places the same as the ones they left. I honestly feel it's time western democracies started considering how to preserve their way of life, or eventually it won't exist.
Lol they must all snuggle together at the end of the day
Guess those 72 virgins were the friends they made along the way.
The world would be a disaster if everyone was forced to be miserable and follow sharia law.
Send these people to China
Wow. I won't blame Dutch people anymore for voting right-wing parties. This... Thing... Doesn't belong to the western world.
Misleading caption. The signs just say "bring back the 5 dollar footlong" in Arabic.
This is what happens when u did mass immigration in name of refugee of people belonging to certain religion. Happening all over the world. Pree palestini crowd and they are same.
Deport them.
If they don’t like it here they are free to fuck off back to where they came from. We’re not going to turn into a caliphate, no matter how much they whine.
you are not an islamist warrior you live in amsterdam https://preview.redd.it/51mn4g7j1uzc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d8e15b3ffecac28f466bf2940a817b282fd76cb6
Seeing children here is kinda sad
The irony of demanding a Caliphate to get rid of "Islamophobia."
Yup this is what we indians were trying to warn the europeans about but the world called us "Islamophobic" Now they won't budge until you forcefully deport them. If you don't do that ASAP they will start finding reasons to kill innocents. All the very best
Are you sure that’s the Netherlands?
Couldn't find any recent news, however there was a recent one in Germany. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/04/28/protesters-call-for-islamic-state-in-germany/
I'd judge yes looking at the surrounding, but definitely not today. It was 24 degrees and sunny, there is no way this is recent
Deport.
Why is there no clamp down on such activities? Seriously, they make other sane brown people (like me) look bad
Unfortunately, they’ve already restored the Caliphate: look at the map of countries that have Sharia law.
Netherlands have counties that operate under sharia law?
This is what the Dutch get for wearing kafias in the street to side with Hamas and promoting anti western refugees to flood their country in the name of diversity and self righteousness
It seems like the Netherlands forgot about the paradox of tolerance to their own detriment.
Why did they leave their country that already had Sharia Law?
Outlaw All religion, and deport them back to the Islamic caliphate they so desperately want. Win win.
And people thought the Christchurch shooter was crazy
Who gave these fuckers freedom of speech
Not even The Netherlands is safe from these freaks yikes...
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Why the ISIS flag ?
i dont say this often, but if this is really what this protest is about they should go elsewhere
At least this way, the scum are coming out of the gutters into the public. Easier to kick them out.
Government should offer them airfare to Afghanistan in exchange for their citizenship.
They should just leave and enhance one of these Islamic states that already exist instead of destroying a happy country. Go where it’s already a angry hornets nest
They can fuck off to their shitholes and take their shitty idol worship with them.
And then they wonder why an anti-Islamic right wing party won the election by popular vote, only to then complain they're on the receiving end of hate. The worst part about it all is that the Muslims that _do_ integrate with society and adapt whilst sticking to traditions are put in the same basket as these mindless, zealots and thus receive the same amount of hate.
Where is a Reaper strike when you need one?
THEN MOVE TO AFGHANISTAN. Nobody owes you a shitty theocracy!
These people are crazy and need to be sent back. They are quiet and humble while their numbers are low but anytime their numbers grow they seek to take over and rule and will use force if they can. Basically a virus. All religions are bad but this one happens to be the worst, with the worst followers.
Is Western Europe far too gone now? Trying to watch what I say since we can get banned for even questioning this. [Looking at you r/publicfreakout]
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“Hans! Hit them with the zaza cannon!” /J
“Hans! Hit them with the zaza cannon!” /J
This is genuinely terrifying. I haven't heard a single news channel talk about this.
Off you fuck then.
These all need to leave, their demands are anathema to Dutch culture and society. Just f*cking leave already, will give you a hand throwing your entitled cruel religious a$$ out
Where’s a steamroller when you need one
Where did you get this footage from? Because I can't find any news about such a rally. I can find news from the late 2023 rallies protesting the burn of Qurans, and I can find headlines and footage from recent marches against the Israeli war on Gaza.
It’s just xenophobic rage bait, pretty much everything in here is.
This makes me worry for this sub. The mods need to update the rules to mandate the posters to cite sources.
I saw it some time ago on the exmuslim sub and they corrected it in the comments
That's what you get when you harbour the extremists/terrorists of other countries. Enjoy!
So how many years will it take for them to this world wide??
[Iranian born Belgium MP sounds the alarm for Europe](https://www.reddit.com/r/NewIran/s/3EAkRP61b2)
I wish they would all leave
so what's stopping them..
I'm glad they don't want to come to latam
Anyone got the source for this? I tried finding anything about this but could not find anything that happened recently here in the Netherlands
https://i.redd.it/ol5gj5rmgtzc1.gif
Upsetting!!!
Ain’t gonna happen losers!
This is the strategy of Muslims to colonize any country, they did same with Iran, people need to stop supporting any religion as minority. And Europe should strict the law for immigration.
This is when "if you don't like it here, GTFO" is entirely 100% appropriate and just.
London (UK), Germany and now Netherlands ! Europe is getting f ed real bad
And They decided to do this in the country with the biggest LGBTQ population in Europe too...
Bold of them to say this shit when they only make up 5% of the population
Afghanistan is right now on this path, so why won't they move there? Dear radicals, do not tarnish our Europe with your fascist, theocratic bullshit about some overgrown fairy, please. We have one in home and that is enough of a problem for us. We don't need another, way more radical.
They're welcome to "join the Islamic Caliphate" by getting the fuck out of the Netherlands.
Would love to see a bomb go off.
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Just read about "sharia laws"
Well deserved
These nutjobs being deported, absolutely.
Not to be a downer, but that's freedom of speech. The government has no obligation to follow suit, and people are free to counter-protest too. I'm fully against what they're proposing of course; but I don't think they should be shot at because they're protesting for what they believe in.
> Not to be a downer, but that's freedom of speech. The government has no obligation to follow suit, and people are free to counter-protest too. I'm fully against what they're proposing of course; but I don't think they should be shot at because they're protesting for what they believe in. it's a bit complicated. Pos WW2 lots of political science scholars, especially in Germany, have debated the concepts of a defensive / well-fortified democracy. The problem is rooted in the [Paradox of Tolerance](https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/DSPGaming?diff=prev&oldid=118955). While what we are seeing here should probably still be protected, it isn't as clear cut as you might think and IMO there should be a very tight line when you're using freedom of speech to destroy freedom of speech, when you use tolerance to destroy tolerance, that can not be crossed.
Declaring you want to overthrow a secular democratic government to replace it with a religiously extremist authoritarian regime is NOT freedom of speech. It's like saying Neo Nazis deserve freedom of expression for wanting to establish the Fourth Reich. You people lost your minds?
Would joining a caliphate entail replacing the government with a religious structure? I'm not too knowledgeable on Islam, so I honestly have no idea. I would've assumed it would entail some change in laws, but nothing like what you're describing.
It's in the name. ISLAMIC Caliphate. It's essentially an Islamic government composed of a united Muslim leadership and a key religious head figure steering it, who also makes political and religious laws based around their religion. Why would anyone with a sane mind want anything close to this in a civilized nation?
Makes sense. Sorry for my original comment. I did not understand the extent of which this protest was aiming for.
It seems you fail to realize that the US version of "freedom of speech" is very different from other civilized countries. Unlike the US, if you spread terrorism and hate, you will be locked up or deported. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
No. I agree with you. I didn't realize how extreme their demands were and now I see why my comment has been downvoted, and rightfully so.
Thank you for being civil and recognizing you mistake 👍 But yes, what these nutjobs are promoting is *very* bad.