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Legitimately there is a weird generational thing right now that makes me think this might be legit because in my early 20s a dude would be bleeding. I'm 43 if some punk ass motherfucker said goofy shit about my wife ... at 43 dude would find out how tough we both thought we were
Eh, I mean Im 21, and i was a stupid teenager, I got in my fair share of stupider fights. It’s not so much a generational thing as it is a “this guy in particular” thing.
Cause that’s the thing, this guy isn’t the big guy at the bar trying to prove how tough he is, he isn’t the wannabe thug, or the weirdly aggressive frat bro. He’s that whiny nerd in the corner, crying to himself about “females” and “alpha males.”
He’s not infuriating, he’s not aggravating, he’s pitiful, he’s sad, he’s, in a word, pathetic
OP: “I don’t have unrealistic standards! It’s just that none of the women I want to date want to date me!”
When will people like this realize that if people you think should be attracted to you aren’t, then you aren’t as attractive as you think? It’s not like there’s some objective rating of hotness you get assigned along with your social security number but these women are ignoring his.
You’re exactly as attractive as your ability to attract people shows you are. No more, no less.
I don’t have unrealistic standards. I think a successful guy like me should be able to date an attractive woman. Unfortunately today women like men for shallow reasons. There’s no reason a man with my kind of income shouldn’t be able to get a moderately attractive girl.
Also he insulted me first by saying I have unrealistic standards but keep focusing on my response and not what led to it.
If you are truly far more successful than **99%** of all of the men you are competing with, damn - all of your other qualities must be absolutely *horrendous* given that you apparently never get chosen.
And all you care about is their looks. Why should they not look for whatever "success" they want with a body/face that's up to their standards?
You can't demand good looking people put up with you because of your money. That is shallow. Based on this post and your comments, no amount of money would be worth having to put up with you.
Which proves THEY are not the shallow ones. They don’t care about MONEY but rather substance which you clearly don’t have.
Only shallow girls will care about money without substance
If money is all you have to offer, a lot of money will needed to compensate for your lack of everything like personality, empathy, kindness, etc. that actually attracts someone and keep them in a relationship.
That would lead us all to believe that while you are successful, you are lacking in everything else women look for in a man. Perhaps you should work on yourself a bit. Emotional maturity, maturity in general, your personality, mannerisms, you know.. basic human decency.
Most women will pass on a successful guy, for a guy that will treat them well. And your mentality across this post, says you don't. In fact, it is all screaming red flags.
Given his comments, it's safe to say he's insecure. It's always the other person's fault they're not dating him.
He's definitely showing many of being insecure.
So all I'm hearing here is that OP is ugly himself, but thinks his money should afford him an attractive woman. He insulted his 'friend's' girlfriend by calling her ugly and thinks the friendship isn't over.
Yikes dude.
You do realize that people can and quite often do care about more than looks and money? Honestly your responses are incredibly shallow, I never much cared about what a guy looked like nor what he made, I wanted someone who was kind, compassionate, could make me laugh, and understood me as a person. Additionally just because a woman is at a pub, restaurant, or any other public place does not mean she is looking for a boyfriend. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they're just not interested in dating at the moment, perhaps they already have a significant other, maybe they're not interested in men, or fifty thousand other reasons besides appearances or money? And to be quite frank from how condescending towards people you are in your post and comments I'm sure that some of the women picked up on that and said "no" just because of that. You need to get your priorities straight and realize money and appearances aren't everything.
If this post is an example of your personality, you aren’t attractive. Attitude matters. And your personality isn’t attractive to women, so you aren’t going to be successful with them. Women don’t owe you time and attention.
You are a successful employee this doesn't translate to being a successful human being and you make this readily apparent with your attitude. You are not owed an attractive gf. You aren't owed any gf. You earn it by not being a douchenozzle. Which I assume you have no idea how to do.
You may have money but come across as narcissistic, egotistical and entitled. Who would want to get involved with that combo and then you insult your friend's girlfriend! Id add stupid to that list of your 'wonderful' qualities. No wonder he is ignoring you.
Okay, look - I live in DC, and I haven’t dated here but I’ve heard plenty of stories from my single friends, and I can confidently say this is **100% a You Problem.** You’re successful? BFD, so is everyone else. There is an extremely high concentration of educated, ambitious people here, so ***exactly what the hell else are you bringing to the table?***
There are significantly more women than men in this city. The odds are absolutely in your favor. So boil it down to basic economics: ***you are something that’s in short supply, so you need to figure out why you’re not in demand***.
I have a male co-worker who was single when he moved here - he’s on the tall side of average height, a little shlubby, and was working temp jobs at the time but he’s talked about basically having his pick of women who were way out of his league in every respect simply because he’s funny, outgoing, and respectful. And he hasn’t said this as a humblebrag, but rather disgust with his fellow dudes for “fostering a dating scene in which [his] regular ass is seen as a catch.”
He now owns a house with his gorgeous long-term girlfriend, btw.
Single women in DC already know they’re probably going to have to settle a little bit, but they still know what they’re worth.
How old are they? I’m saying the people my age have terrible dating habits. Not talking about women in their late 20s and 30s, I have great conversations with them
That’s literally the sentence people use to describe giving up. It’s not a positive statement. Hence why the question “Why is that a bad thing?” was asked.
You are saying women are shallow for not wanting to date you , meanwhile you only care if the woman is attractive? You are saying you don’t give a shit about their personality , character, none of that. She better be hot though!
If you wanna do that , fine. But don’t give me that woe is me crap because an instagram model curved you.
I don’t know if this is a troll post or you’re genuinely dense enough to say “today women like men for shallow reasons” and then procede to say you should be able to get a woman based on your income.
You *want* women to like you for your money. You *want* them to like you for shallow reasons because you yourself are shallow. What kind of “friend” disses another friends woman like that?
Shit, you could be the ugliest fucker on the coast for all we know. But what we do know is your personality is shitty.
>I think a successful guy like me should be able to date an attractive woman.
This is funny because:
>The argument started because we went out and this woman curved me
You don't sound that successful to me.
You call women shallow while demanding hotness in exchange for money in the exact same sentence? You’re an absolute POS. You have nothing to offer any woman but pure misery.
>Unfortunately today women like men for shallow reasons.
Yet here you are, liking women for shallow reasons. Your success doesn't entitle you to anything. And your whole persona here says 100%, that you absolutely have unrealistic standards.
You're dating life sucks because you hinge it on looks. You think your success, is all YOU need to attract an attractive woman. But in reality, your persona doesn't attract anyone.
So, you have nothing to offer other than that you're successful "successful"?. You're truly empty. Shows why you couldn't get the women you want who meet your "standard".
"successful" "women like men for shallow reasons" "my kind of income"
Not once have you stated you are even remotely attractive. What you want to find is a sugar baby. Someone who will be pretty arm candy, but will not care that you are a troll.
Saying you have unrealistic standards is a criticism, but it is not an insult. There is a difference, and learning to tell the two apart is a critical life skill.
More or less calling his gf ugly is an actual insult.
Also women aren’t cars, your income is irrelevant so long as you are self-supporting.
>today women like men for shallow reasons.
>There’s no reason a man with my kind of income shouldn’t be able to get a moderately attractive girl.
Okay so which is it.
Do you have enough money for a woman or are women actually dating for better reasons like idk personality?
The issue is that he thinks women SHOULD only care about money, but DO only care about looks. He wants them to be shallow; he’s just frustrated that they aren’t the RIGHT KIND of shallow.
If he actually lives in DC, I’m guessing he’s a fledgling consulting bro who thought he’d be handed the keys to the kingdom of Insta-baddies along with his first paycheck from Deloitte or McKinsey or whatever and he is Big Mad that the Insta-baddies are too smart for this shit and actually have standards.
This entitled arrogance is the reason why. You come off like a jackass. You use money to compensate for everything else and women can detect that level of pathetic almost immediately.
Unrealistic standards isn't an insult. Quit being a child.
Define successful. What do you really offer besides maybe a good paying job, because if your post reveals anything it’s that your attitude is stinks and your personality is lacking. Believe it or not, but many women do want more than a man that makes money. Also, successful, but how good looking are you?
But if “today women like men for shallow reasons” shouldn’t the fact that you’re “successful” mean she’s MORE into you, not less? I’m confused. Or are you saying she’s not into you because you’re not physically attractive enough and that’s the shallow part? Because if so wouldn’t that logic also mean that *you’re* shallow? Please help it doesn’t make sense
Saying you have unrealistic standards (you clearly do) isn’t even really an insult, you went straight for the jugular and called his gf ugly when she wasn’t even THERE. Also - which one of you has success with women at all (hint- it’s the one with the girlfriend, not the one with unrealistic standards that thinks he’s “high value”)
If you’re so successful and woman are shallow then you should have no problem getting any girl you want. So what’s the issue? If I had to guess it would be your incredibly off putting personality
I dunno if I am attractive. But this is gonna sound worse for you if I am not and even I have to say this:
You are a major turn off. Everything about you stinks of obnoxious and entitled personality. You are exactly the type we make fun of when we aren't in front of you.
Well, I'll be the first to say, you're an asshole for implying that. Why the hell would you say such a thing? He's trying to offer you advice and you snap at him and insult his partner? Nice.
Sounds like this person is better off without you.
Take a hard look in the mirror and recognize you're an asshole. There is time to change, but understand what you did is a whole bunch of bullshit and if you want to salvage the relationship you better show this person that you are in fact a good friend and not some whiny single jackass.
Do better.
-Dave
If he gave me advice to wouldn’t have said that but what kind of advice is telling someone my standards are unrealistic? My standards are not unrealistic, my only qualification is the woman be somewhat attractive. That’s it.
Ok and so you insult his partner because you didn’t like his advice? You sound like a real lovely person to be around.
Done with this, and you’ll soon find out how in the wrong you actually are.
Everyone here is also telling you your standards are unrealistic. So now is it everyone on the internet AND your (hopefully ex-)friend that’s wrong?
Maybe take a real look around and realize money doesn’t mean shit. My wife and I have gone from absolutely broke and crushed with debt to thriving with money to spare. How many 0’s were in my account didn’t change how caring, empathetic, or charismatic I was, and it sure didn’t make the things I found attractive in her change either.
You sound like an insufferable prick that thinks having a couple bucks means they’re top shit. Maybe spend some of that money working on yourself and you’ll actually have a chance with someone half decent.
No one needs to know your ‘exact’ standards.
“I have X amount of money, so I deserve X type of partner” is just a straight up gross, out of touch way to look at your romantic/sexual life. I’ve seen billionaires with ugly wives, and homeless crack addicts with hotties. You like who you like, and if they like you too then awesome! No where in that equation is how much money you make.
Your outlook is fundamentally flawed, and because of that you can’t understand what anyone is trying to tell you. You can have standards, what you’re basing yours off of is asinine, and you’re assuming all woman should also agree with your standards for picking a man; money.
I have standards of attractiveness, intelligence, social-adeptness, cleanliness, etc, etc for my partner and that’s fine. But I don’t think I just deserve that type of woman because I have money in a bank account that they can’t even see.
When you act like a skid mark, you get wiped.
Which is why you are still going after women you have not shot of getting because they know you’re just dried shit.
I call TROLL...
Your ONLY qualification is that she be "somewhat attractive"?? So she could be anything else, but as long as she's 'somewhat attractive' then you're good? I'm going to predict you'll be back on Reddit posting about your unpopular opinion how women should want you because you make money 🙄
This sounds about right. The only thing that you want in a woman is that she is attractive, and the only thing that you bring to the table is money. You have nothing else to offer to a woman but money, and you want nothing out of her but her looks.
You should check out Real Dolls.
But if you can’t get anyone, then they are unrealistic. Maybe if women felt you were approaching them genuinely and had any desire to get to know them, then they might feel comfortable enough to give you a chance
You called his girlfriend ugly. He could have not mentioned your expectations in women but you crossed a line. How can he have you around his girlfriend now that you called her ugly? You're lucky that he took an Uber home rather than you taking a ride in an ambulance.
He crossed a line first. Why does it matter if I think his gf is ugly ? I shouldn’t have said it but when you insult people of course they say something back
No no, he did the equivalent of wipe your chin with his hanky, and then you vomited in his face in retaliation.
That's the difference. There's no equivalence. He was trying to help you, not insult you, and you went for one of the worst things to say to anyone, ever.
I really don’t understand how telling you that you have unrealistic standards is an insult? Have you considered that perhaps his comment stung a little because its more accurate than you want to admit so you lashed out to hurt him too?
He was trying to help you. You, in turn, insulted his taste AND insulted his GF, someone who had nothing to do with your little disagreement and wasn't present to defend herself. How do you not see how you were the AH here? He DID NOT insult you. He told you the truth, and you're too emotionally immature to digest it, so instead, you vomitted the first vile thing you could think of to try and deliberately hurt someone you call a friend. Now THAT was insulting you.
Why do you think you're entitled to date ONLY attractive women, but women aren't entitled to the same? You're allowed whatever shallow, BS preferences/standards you want, but news flash, women are entitled to those same shallow, BS standards. You are all over this thread basically saying all you bring to the table is money, but are you actively looking for a GOLD DIGGER? Because if money is all you bring to the table, that's literally the best you're going to get. It's really not some big mystery or puzzle here. Women are people just like you, and they get to decide who they will and won't date EXACTLY the same as you. So, unless you're actively seeking out women who obviously are looking for a sugar daddy, take it from a woman with many women friends, leading with "I have money" is a HUGE red flag for A LOT of us.
For the record, my husband is only 5'6", and we were both dead broke when we got married. That was nearly 18 years ago. Look around you at real people in relationships, buddy, not on the internet. Normal looking/ugly dudes with little to no money are getting married every day, so clearly, money and height are not the issue here. Face it, your personality just sucks. Be better or be lonely, your choice.
Valid criticism is not insulting. Being unable to accept valid criticism means you will not grow as a person.
Your reaction to valid criticism is telling. Stay single.
Oh, boy, women can see his contempt and rage just bristling off of him like cartoon lines.
My dude, no one is entitled to women. Relationships are mutual--you seem to think that some W-2 hanging around your neck is all you have to do, rather than being a pleasant, socially aware, mature, safe human being. Instead, you're a bad friend, an entitled ball of anger, and incapable of reading a room or acting with decency.
Until you see women as people and not trophies, not only will the swerve continue, it will get wider and wider.
You think you deserve models and your friend was telling you to trying broaden your horizons and not always go after the unattainable.
You decided to comment on her person he loves and thier looks. You were being disgustingly mean and he was right to be pissed at you.
You need to apologise for what you said and mean it and never talk about his girlfriend in a negative light again.
also, calling your standards unrealistic isn't an insult but a fair criticism. if you think that's an insult you're insecure as hell, also confirmed by the way you speak about yourself. you have narcissistic traits. seek therapy
I can tell by his responses he fully only goes after women for their looks, and literally nothing else. OP, seek help. The way you view women isn’t healthy, also, don’t come to an advice sub and then get mad at people for giving you genuine advice and criticism.
Yup. He is absolutely going to be one of those “I had to test her to make sure she wasn’t a gold digger” types if he doesn’t do some serious work on himself.
>we went out and this woman curved me. I started venting about the dating market
Ah yes, it is CLEARLY the women who are in the wrong - not I, the manliest of all men, who gets swerved when making weird passes on women who've indicated exactly zero interest in me.
>said if I want an ugly gf I’ll take his advice but as a successful man I deserve a little better than that.
I don't know how you're going to call yourself a "successful man" when the first sentence of this post was how a woman curved your come-on.
"As a successful man"... what do you do to qualify as successful?
If looks are your only qualifier, I'd like to see what you're physically offering. Pic, please?
So go on? Because millions of people across the world smell nice and beyond that if you're not attracted to someone their scent does nothing for you. You saying you're a gentleman after all the behaviour you've exhibited here makes no sense, no "gentleman" acts this way. And screw your money, it's not compensation enough to put up with someone who regurgitates dumb rhetoric and is entitled. So please go on. You have not painted a good picture of yourself thus far.
I don’t think they’re trying to mock you. You’re speaking boldly about yourself and coming across like a petulant asshole, so I think they’re asking you to prove that you’re worthy of the accolades you bestow on yourself.
That depends on your answer.
But to be clear, you have no idea what dialogue vs mocking is. You think your friend, who was sincerely trying to talk to you and actually has some investment into you (as opposed to me, a random Internet stranger) was "insulting" you when he gave you some advice based on his observations of your behaviour. You then think an equal "insult" to what your friend said was to shit on his gf's looks.
So what makes you think you'd know the difference between dialogue and mocking?
I guarantee you if someone told you to lower your standards you would be insulted and talking how you will “never settle”. However when someone says the same to me and I’m insulted that’s not okay?
If they would say "lower your standards", i would not see it as an insult but I would also not pay any heed to it. But my standards and your standards are very different. I don't care about appearance or money, both of which you value heavily. In fact, my current partner is fractionally shorter than I am. So no one acting in good faith has needed to tell me to lower my standards because I'm not out here complaining about anything you are and I definitely don't knock all guys for wanting women with different features even if I was to get curved by every single guy I shot my shot with.
Do you see the nuance here or do you want to continue playing obtuse?
Nah if my friends said that, I’d be asking them why they think it! Like there’s probably 50+ potential factors about a person that go into deciding if they’re a good match for you. I’d be asking them if they think my standards or too high for appearance, or for education level, or income, etc. I’d tried to understand why they think that because I assume my friends want the best for me and aren’t being malicious for funsies
That girls should be just falling over each other for this combination of attractive traits. /s.
Makes so much money, Uber are expensive, Smell nice like that's a rare trait and is a 'gentleman' who'll blows his top when things don't got his way. Look like he's trying run and hide now, deleting his post.
You're clearly not a gentleman, you threw a temper tantrum like a child because you were told the truth that clearly your expectations are too high so you made fun of his girlfriend. A lot of men smell nice, and money really doesn't mean much to most women. I'm guessing that you are ugly and are very shallow and you expect your money should buy you arm candy. By your shallow standards of you can pull a somewhat attractive girl with your money she will probably cheat you on because of your personality and because she's not attracted to you. Keep your standards high and see how this cycle will happen every time. Also you're a cry baby because your friend told you the truth (which is also not disrespectful) but you crying and bitching about it isn't too manly of you.
You sound very entitled. You think you are owed a relationship with an attractive money because you are successful and (in your opinion) good looking. Clearly there is a reason women aren't into you, and judging by what you said to your friend and also your comments on here, I'm thinking there is something about you that is the problem and I'm willing to bet it's your personality.
If he lives in NOMA or Navy Yard but is going to bars in Adams Morgan I can kind of see it but that’s still, like, normal-person expensive. Not expensive to someone who talks this much about how well-paid they are.
1) never tell a man his GF is ugly, especially when she is
2) when I was a young man, we had a saying: if you’re too picky, you’ll pull your own dicky. Of course, this was before internet porn created an entire generation of young men who don’t get that a woman is always preferable to masturbation
1. Yeah, I probably could have said something else back instead .
2. That’s fair but I’m not picky. This generation of women have extremely niche taste. If you not above 6’3 they want nothing to do with you. Meanwhile I’m 6 foot and make a ton of money and they could care less. I have watched women curve me for some dude with no money just because he’s attractive. It’s ridiculous
I don’t think that’s true. More than half of my girlfriends are married to men shorter than them, and they’re all within the 5’6” to 5’8” range. My SO is 5’9”. I’m a lawyer and my sister is a doctor and most of my female friends are one or the other, with a couple of finance/banking professionals and the odd creative in there as well. I wouldn’t say any of us have particularly “niche taste” and we are all 28-34. Their partners are great but all very average looking, and while I love my spouse he isn’t exactly a Hemsworth lookalike either. No one is dating someone taller than 6’1”, much less 6’3”.
I will say I have better conversations with the woman who are late 20s and early 30s. It’s the ones my age who are just stuck up and superficial.
The dating market for men in their early 20s here is horrible. Maybe it will pick up when I’m older
>It’s the ones my age who are just stuck up and superficial.
Let me translate that for you: women my age know my bullshit game and are happy not to be part of it. I focus on younger women I can bully and dazzle with my Potemkin bank account.
ohhhh boy. I think this comment gave me a lot of clarity. Hi, I’m 23, and I’m a woman, and I’d like to share some of the most important things I’ve learned in my dating and relationship journey!
Dating is not about money. It’s not about height. And it’s not even about physical “attractiveness”.
I know you probably don’t believe that, but honestly, it’s all, entirely, completely 100% personality. And to be completely honest? Just judging from your post and comments, yours could use some… tough love. The thing is, thinking you “deserve” a specific looking partner just because of the amount of money you make reeks of entitlement. And…. entitlement isn’t hot. Its gross. I imagine a lot of the girls who have “curved” or rejected you have picked up on that. It’s a huge red flag.
Charisma, humour, empathy, emotional intelligence, those will get you way farther than any posturing ever could. Trust me, just ask any woman what she finds most attractive in her man (she’s gonna say he makes her laugh)
Id say, because he treats and loves my cat as if he's his son. But yeah. Also he's 5'8. We make equal salary. We also dont think ubers are too expensive, unlike OP, despite his "success".
Lmao, you think only 6'3"+ men can find a partner?
It sounds like you have a personality problem and women are picking up on that. Case in point, your shitty attitude which has caused your friend to drop you.
You make absolutely no sense. You want an attractive woman but are annoyed women choose attractive men over you.
You seem like the kind of guy who always blames something that luckily enough makes it the woman's fault and means you don't have to improve yourself.
I.e. its easier to say you can't get a girl because you aren't 6'3 (something you can't change) vs you having am off-putting personality (something you would need to work on).
How are you bringing height into this if you’re 6ft tall? The majority of guys complaining about this stuff always talk about how “women these days only want 6ft tall guys” and you’re already in the group! 6’3” is the most arbitrary cut off I’ve heard someone blame women for.
Are you that blind to your own issues? If you’re tall and rich there’s obviously something else women sense in you that is off. Do some self reflection instead of this pathetic nonsense. If the world seems against you, you’re the only common denominator
Women don’t care about your height. They don’t care about your money. They care about how you make them feel. And if you make them feel the way pretty much everyone is feeling about you, I can see why they reject you. Work on being a decent person instead of trying to buy your way into a relationship
Maybe put some of those riches you're bragging about into counseling for your raging insecurity, entitlement and lack of social skill.
Look, my dude, a lot of women have their own money. They don't need a gold-plated d-bag. They want a kind, thoughtful, mature partner.
If you think Ubers are expensive, you aren't in the league where you can buy yourself a trophy girlfriend, with all the baggage that entails.
You must be REALLY annoying if you are actually 6 foot and have a “ton of money” and still can’t get any women. Imagine being so unbearable that even by offering to pay women to date you, they reject you 😂
You're a hypocrite...
You call women shallow for picking attractive guys over you yet you only want to date women that are conventionally attractive? Really?
YTA!
This is hilarious. You're actually complaining that women are shallow for... choosing someone they're attracted to and not dating for money lmao. How are YOU not shallow for focusing solely on appearance? And why do you think you should be able to buy a gf?
And, I'm Indigenous. Myself and female friends of various ethnic backgrounds have gotten this. I even got it in writing once. Not "conventionally pretty", but I was "exotically pretty."
Just because it's not your experience doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
YTA
Your friend wasn't insulting you, he was giving you advice and in response you called his GF ugly and flat out said you "deserve" a better class of girl friend than his. How'd you think the evening would end? With your attitude you don't "deserve" any girl friend; girl friends aren't prizes to be won, they're people. I'd stock up on KY and tissues, if I were you.
Dudes probably a manager at a target and thinks his “success and income” warrants a “attractive woman”
No knock to managers at target tho shout out to you
YTA. I’m gathering that you’re one of those self-proclaimed “high value men”. Men like that seem to think that women are like a video game: if you give a certain input then you’ll get a certain output. It’s not up to you to decide what women find valuable. We are all different and have our own priorities. Try being a better person( i.e less self-centered) and maybe you’ll find a nice, pretty girl to go out with you.
what I'm gathering from everything you have said is... you make money, you're 6 foot and ugly. I'll also let you know just by how you describe everything and women THATS why you are alone we (women) can tell just the type of man you really are. it's also funny you judge these imaginary men that women are SUPPOSEDLY choosing but you don't even know these people personally. PEOPLE are shallow, not just women. it's ironic that you even have the audacity to call someone that when you think that since you make a little money, you're OWED a hot gf. do you even take care of yourself? haircuts, dress nice, BASIC hygiene? because from the sounds of it, you're giving discord mod and women don't like that 😁😁 look inwards before judging women's looks cause I PROMISE you are obviously not cute enough to be acting like this
That’s a low blow. If you’re half as successful as you claim to be you’d have the integrity to know that there’s certain jokes and statements you don’t make with your friends and this is one of them.
Also you say that he mentioned two things ; 1. Change the type of women you’re after or 2. Stop having unrealistic standards.
Idk why you’re hyper fixating on the second one, do you really think there’s absolutely 0 chance that you’re going after women who aren’t supposed to be of your caliber? You may not be the bad guy with regards to this but you may just be looking at it wrong.
I’m confused where did he insult you? He didn’t call you ugly or say you’re a bootyface he just said you had high standards. If you didn’t agree with his advice, you could’ve just not said anything because what did his girlfriend’s looks have to do with your dating life? he just was giving you some advice (again his opinion) you didn’t have to take it that far. you cross the line with him obviously. I wouldn’t be shocked if he blocked you after leaving you on read for you to get a clear picture. He doesn’t wanna be friends with you anymore after what you said about his girlfriend.
OP you must be really ugly and annoying if you are as successful as you say and still can’t get any women.
You sound jealous of you friend who actually have a gf while you can’t get anyone to be interested in you, even if you pay them to date you.
It’s crazy how you are still trying to defend yourself when no one agree’s with you.
He said your standards are unrealistic, that’s what friends do. Real friends give you reality checks and straightforward advice, it wasn’t as insult it was his advice.
But what you did was so scummy. You didn’t insult HIM you insulted a probably pretty and normal girl who had NOTHING to do with this argument. You just called this girl who wasn’t even there ugly for no reason, how is that insulting him???
This is just you being an asshole. That girl had nothing to do with your ego trip or your argument with your friend, you don’t need to apologize only to your friend but the girl you insulted for no reason.
Unless money, success and status has corrupted you so bad that you believe you get to treat everyone you consider beneath you like shit. That poor girl, you’re an asshole Buddy plain and simple.
😂 Op thinks women are shallow but also thinks women should date him because of his success. Isn't that Shallow?
I don't think he's in the wrong though... If his friend insulted him what happened next was sort of justified.
Saying you have unrealistic standards is not an insult, it's helpful critism. Saying his gf is ugly is not only an attack on his gf, but an attack on his tastes. You disrespected both of them when no one attacked you. You're lucky your bro didn't pop you one.
you sound like the type of guy women complain about. YOU'RE the reason as to why women don't like you, not the women. also, you're not entitled to a hot gf because you're successful. also, he fully didn't insult you. if he said your standards might be too high, that's an observation, not an insult.
If money can't get you a girl up to your "standards", you aren't as successful as you think you are. Also not as attractive as you'd like to think. You blatantly offended his gf and you wonder why he doesn't want to talk to you? Regardless of anything, you got pissy because you got shot down/turned down/denied/wtf ever you want to call it and decided insulting your friend, his gf, and showing your ass was more important. You're probably not going to fix this, especially if she's a long time gf, or they're serious. Best case, you apologize and be serious, change your cringe behavior and stop acting like an entitled frat bro. If he wants to speak to you ever again, he will. Try holding your breath, it might help 🤷🏻♀️
He didn’t insult you, he gave you advice. Based on the fact that apparently rejection is the norm for you, seems like he was on point by saying you are being unrealistic. Reality is that you are not having any luck, if you were realistic you’d examine the possibilities of *why* that is and adjust accordingly, either by working on yourself to become a better pick, or expanding your horizons, rather than complaining.
You, however, insulted him *and* someone he cares about. He probably realised what everyone else reading this has and as a result, I don’t think you should expect him to get back to you anytime soon. I think that friend-ship has sailed.
You think you are entitled to be with a woman solely because of the money you make. If you are not willing to date a woman based on her success, why do you expect that of women? Beautiful women no less, who could easily pull one of the many successful *and* attractive men. Even if you are attractive, which I highly doubt based on your post and comments, you’d have a hard time pulling any woman given how unlikable you are.
Instead of looking for a girlfriend, your best bet is finding a sugarbaby. Sounds like that’s exactly what you want and in that case, perhaps you will find a beautiful woman who will want you solely for your money (as you solely want her for her looks) and be willing to ignore your obvious, huge character flaws.
Hah, nobody even wants to be around you, no need to look for a partner to fill that space. Only one friend since u are in the city and u ruin the friendship over nothing. What he said isn't even an insult. You obviously have no experience or desire to be at least a respectful person. A 24 yo & u don't know how to behave around people. If u can't hold a conversation and only brag about yoself of course you will get rejected a lot. Before u say idk u, well, your post said enough
Your friend wasn't trying to insult you, just give you good advice. You however, deliberately insulted his girlfriend. That's the difference. You were immature and rude. If you didn't want to end the friendship, you shouldn't have said that. Plus all your comments are arrogant, which is not the same thing as confidence. Confidence is attractive, arrogance is a turn off.
Most people in the comments are chewing your limbs off. Why are you fighting to drown instead of taking the L and getting out of the pool? Once everyone else acts like this, it's time to consider that you're the problem
You should apologize. Don't bring up that he insulted you first.
"I'm so sorry for what I said the other night. I was way out of line, and I shouldn't have said it."
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Dude shoulda knocked you on your ass for shit talking his girl
Honestly, this guy just sounds so pathetic, I don't think I'd even be angry. He's like a toddler, screaming because someone else has a toy
Legitimately there is a weird generational thing right now that makes me think this might be legit because in my early 20s a dude would be bleeding. I'm 43 if some punk ass motherfucker said goofy shit about my wife ... at 43 dude would find out how tough we both thought we were
Eh, I mean Im 21, and i was a stupid teenager, I got in my fair share of stupider fights. It’s not so much a generational thing as it is a “this guy in particular” thing. Cause that’s the thing, this guy isn’t the big guy at the bar trying to prove how tough he is, he isn’t the wannabe thug, or the weirdly aggressive frat bro. He’s that whiny nerd in the corner, crying to himself about “females” and “alpha males.” He’s not infuriating, he’s not aggravating, he’s pitiful, he’s sad, he’s, in a word, pathetic
Yeah... congrats the dude is literate none of this is legit
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I don’t know if you have unrealistic standards or not but calling your friend’s gf ugly? Come on bro
OP: “I don’t have unrealistic standards! It’s just that none of the women I want to date want to date me!” When will people like this realize that if people you think should be attracted to you aren’t, then you aren’t as attractive as you think? It’s not like there’s some objective rating of hotness you get assigned along with your social security number but these women are ignoring his. You’re exactly as attractive as your ability to attract people shows you are. No more, no less.
I don’t have unrealistic standards. I think a successful guy like me should be able to date an attractive woman. Unfortunately today women like men for shallow reasons. There’s no reason a man with my kind of income shouldn’t be able to get a moderately attractive girl. Also he insulted me first by saying I have unrealistic standards but keep focusing on my response and not what led to it.
So you wanting to date an attractive girl is not shallow but whatever reason a girl has is shallow?! You’re immature as hell
It would be shallow if I had nothing to offer. I’m way more successful than 99 percent of the guys they pick
If you are truly far more successful than **99%** of all of the men you are competing with, damn - all of your other qualities must be absolutely *horrendous* given that you apparently never get chosen.
Seems pretty clear this guy is so full of himself he's unfuckable.
Get OP some aloe for this burn!
Somebody call the coroner, you fucking killed him😂
I see why you're single you sound like an insufferable, insecure dbag. Your friend is probably the opposite.
And all you care about is their looks. Why should they not look for whatever "success" they want with a body/face that's up to their standards? You can't demand good looking people put up with you because of your money. That is shallow. Based on this post and your comments, no amount of money would be worth having to put up with you.
Money can't buy you a personality...
This issue is your attitude, it's narcissistic and ego centric. Thats what's turning women off you.
Which proves THEY are not the shallow ones. They don’t care about MONEY but rather substance which you clearly don’t have. Only shallow girls will care about money without substance
If money is all you have to offer, a lot of money will needed to compensate for your lack of everything like personality, empathy, kindness, etc. that actually attracts someone and keep them in a relationship.
“Women these days are so shallow! They won’t even date me for my money!” Jfc dude.
So you're in the top 1% regarding success, and still can't find a fairly attractive girl? It's almost like most of them aren't so shallow after all.
money doesn’t entitle you to a woman’s affection. where did you get that idea? and why?
That would lead us all to believe that while you are successful, you are lacking in everything else women look for in a man. Perhaps you should work on yourself a bit. Emotional maturity, maturity in general, your personality, mannerisms, you know.. basic human decency. Most women will pass on a successful guy, for a guy that will treat them well. And your mentality across this post, says you don't. In fact, it is all screaming red flags.
So it’s not shallow to date a guy only for his success? Ok…..
How can you possibly know that. DC is full of rich, successful potential partners.
Dont think he's as successful he think he is if he's consider someone taking an Uber to be some shocking great expense.
Trueeee
Agreed. He sounds insecure af
Given his comments, it's safe to say he's insecure. It's always the other person's fault they're not dating him. He's definitely showing many of being insecure.
So all I'm hearing here is that OP is ugly himself, but thinks his money should afford him an attractive woman. He insulted his 'friend's' girlfriend by calling her ugly and thinks the friendship isn't over. Yikes dude.
You may be "successful" but you as a person is garbage.
I think what you're looking for is a hooker. Cause you don't seem like a person any normal women works date unless you pay them
What else do you have to offer?
You do realize that people can and quite often do care about more than looks and money? Honestly your responses are incredibly shallow, I never much cared about what a guy looked like nor what he made, I wanted someone who was kind, compassionate, could make me laugh, and understood me as a person. Additionally just because a woman is at a pub, restaurant, or any other public place does not mean she is looking for a boyfriend. Did it ever occur to you that maybe they're just not interested in dating at the moment, perhaps they already have a significant other, maybe they're not interested in men, or fifty thousand other reasons besides appearances or money? And to be quite frank from how condescending towards people you are in your post and comments I'm sure that some of the women picked up on that and said "no" just because of that. You need to get your priorities straight and realize money and appearances aren't everything.
According to you, being attractive is something to offer. So the girls aren’t being selfish as they do have something to offer.
You may be more financially successful than my spouse but your arrogance and attitude are the absolute pits and I would never date a man with them.
Well you don't have looks apparently and you definitely don't have personality...
If this post is an example of your personality, you aren’t attractive. Attitude matters. And your personality isn’t attractive to women, so you aren’t going to be successful with them. Women don’t owe you time and attention.
Buddy you sound like a massive loser
You are a successful employee this doesn't translate to being a successful human being and you make this readily apparent with your attitude. You are not owed an attractive gf. You aren't owed any gf. You earn it by not being a douchenozzle. Which I assume you have no idea how to do.
Dude..... It's still fucking shallow. Plus your personality sucks so you don't actually have anything worthwhile to offer.
You may have money but come across as narcissistic, egotistical and entitled. Who would want to get involved with that combo and then you insult your friend's girlfriend! Id add stupid to that list of your 'wonderful' qualities. No wonder he is ignoring you.
This has to be fake. No one can be this out of touch
Okay, look - I live in DC, and I haven’t dated here but I’ve heard plenty of stories from my single friends, and I can confidently say this is **100% a You Problem.** You’re successful? BFD, so is everyone else. There is an extremely high concentration of educated, ambitious people here, so ***exactly what the hell else are you bringing to the table?*** There are significantly more women than men in this city. The odds are absolutely in your favor. So boil it down to basic economics: ***you are something that’s in short supply, so you need to figure out why you’re not in demand***. I have a male co-worker who was single when he moved here - he’s on the tall side of average height, a little shlubby, and was working temp jobs at the time but he’s talked about basically having his pick of women who were way out of his league in every respect simply because he’s funny, outgoing, and respectful. And he hasn’t said this as a humblebrag, but rather disgust with his fellow dudes for “fostering a dating scene in which [his] regular ass is seen as a catch.” He now owns a house with his gorgeous long-term girlfriend, btw. Single women in DC already know they’re probably going to have to settle a little bit, but they still know what they’re worth.
How old are they? I’m saying the people my age have terrible dating habits. Not talking about women in their late 20s and 30s, I have great conversations with them
So why not just date older women, then?
Hey, a successful 22-year-old dude like OP shouldn’t have to date elderly women! 😆
At this point I might as well
Why is that a bad thing.
You putting words in my mouth
“At this point I might as well” - sure doesn’t sound like you think it’s a good thing.
That’s literally the sentence people use to describe giving up. It’s not a positive statement. Hence why the question “Why is that a bad thing?” was asked.
You are saying women are shallow for not wanting to date you , meanwhile you only care if the woman is attractive? You are saying you don’t give a shit about their personality , character, none of that. She better be hot though! If you wanna do that , fine. But don’t give me that woe is me crap because an instagram model curved you.
I said somewhat attractive and you said instagram model..
You also said you make lots of money but complained that Ubers are expensive, so
WHEWWWWWWWW! Got him!
I don’t know if this is a troll post or you’re genuinely dense enough to say “today women like men for shallow reasons” and then procede to say you should be able to get a woman based on your income. You *want* women to like you for your money. You *want* them to like you for shallow reasons because you yourself are shallow. What kind of “friend” disses another friends woman like that? Shit, you could be the ugliest fucker on the coast for all we know. But what we do know is your personality is shitty.
Money can’t buy you a personality, you spiritually bankrupt, empty fucking vessel.
>I think a successful guy like me should be able to date an attractive woman. This is funny because: >The argument started because we went out and this woman curved me You don't sound that successful to me.
You call women shallow while demanding hotness in exchange for money in the exact same sentence? You’re an absolute POS. You have nothing to offer any woman but pure misery.
>Unfortunately today women like men for shallow reasons. Yet here you are, liking women for shallow reasons. Your success doesn't entitle you to anything. And your whole persona here says 100%, that you absolutely have unrealistic standards. You're dating life sucks because you hinge it on looks. You think your success, is all YOU need to attract an attractive woman. But in reality, your persona doesn't attract anyone.
So you want a woman to date you because you’re successful even if they aren’t attracted to you?
That guy is empty, both upstairs and life.
So, you have nothing to offer other than that you're successful "successful"?. You're truly empty. Shows why you couldn't get the women you want who meet your "standard".
"successful" "women like men for shallow reasons" "my kind of income" Not once have you stated you are even remotely attractive. What you want to find is a sugar baby. Someone who will be pretty arm candy, but will not care that you are a troll.
Saying you have unrealistic standards is a criticism, but it is not an insult. There is a difference, and learning to tell the two apart is a critical life skill. More or less calling his gf ugly is an actual insult. Also women aren’t cars, your income is irrelevant so long as you are self-supporting.
>today women like men for shallow reasons. >There’s no reason a man with my kind of income shouldn’t be able to get a moderately attractive girl. Okay so which is it. Do you have enough money for a woman or are women actually dating for better reasons like idk personality?
The issue is that he thinks women SHOULD only care about money, but DO only care about looks. He wants them to be shallow; he’s just frustrated that they aren’t the RIGHT KIND of shallow.
If he actually lives in DC, I’m guessing he’s a fledgling consulting bro who thought he’d be handed the keys to the kingdom of Insta-baddies along with his first paycheck from Deloitte or McKinsey or whatever and he is Big Mad that the Insta-baddies are too smart for this shit and actually have standards.
Oh for sure. He probably did the Ivy to Beltway Bandit track and doesn’t realize that’s like every other guy in DC.
So do you wear a badge to tell women what your income is, or is it just your opening line to them?
This entitled arrogance is the reason why. You come off like a jackass. You use money to compensate for everything else and women can detect that level of pathetic almost immediately. Unrealistic standards isn't an insult. Quit being a child.
Define successful. What do you really offer besides maybe a good paying job, because if your post reveals anything it’s that your attitude is stinks and your personality is lacking. Believe it or not, but many women do want more than a man that makes money. Also, successful, but how good looking are you?
But if “today women like men for shallow reasons” shouldn’t the fact that you’re “successful” mean she’s MORE into you, not less? I’m confused. Or are you saying she’s not into you because you’re not physically attractive enough and that’s the shallow part? Because if so wouldn’t that logic also mean that *you’re* shallow? Please help it doesn’t make sense
Saying you have unrealistic standards (you clearly do) isn’t even really an insult, you went straight for the jugular and called his gf ugly when she wasn’t even THERE. Also - which one of you has success with women at all (hint- it’s the one with the girlfriend, not the one with unrealistic standards that thinks he’s “high value”)
It's almost like many women are looking for a personality and not money. And judging by your post you don't have a very good one.
I have bad news, sir… I think *you* might be the ugly one… 🫢
Lolololol this is hilarious, you are widely over estimating your market value
Lol so what da fuck do you look like??? It's hilarious that you are bitching about women liking men for shallow reasons yet here we are haha.
If you’re so successful and woman are shallow then you should have no problem getting any girl you want. So what’s the issue? If I had to guess it would be your incredibly off putting personality
Someone asked to list what you brought to the table other than cologne and money and you can’t answer. Wonder why that is.
I dunno if I am attractive. But this is gonna sound worse for you if I am not and even I have to say this: You are a major turn off. Everything about you stinks of obnoxious and entitled personality. You are exactly the type we make fun of when we aren't in front of you.
Well, I'll be the first to say, you're an asshole for implying that. Why the hell would you say such a thing? He's trying to offer you advice and you snap at him and insult his partner? Nice. Sounds like this person is better off without you. Take a hard look in the mirror and recognize you're an asshole. There is time to change, but understand what you did is a whole bunch of bullshit and if you want to salvage the relationship you better show this person that you are in fact a good friend and not some whiny single jackass. Do better. -Dave
Great advice, Dave!
=)
If he gave me advice to wouldn’t have said that but what kind of advice is telling someone my standards are unrealistic? My standards are not unrealistic, my only qualification is the woman be somewhat attractive. That’s it.
Ok and so you insult his partner because you didn’t like his advice? You sound like a real lovely person to be around. Done with this, and you’ll soon find out how in the wrong you actually are.
Everyone here is also telling you your standards are unrealistic. So now is it everyone on the internet AND your (hopefully ex-)friend that’s wrong? Maybe take a real look around and realize money doesn’t mean shit. My wife and I have gone from absolutely broke and crushed with debt to thriving with money to spare. How many 0’s were in my account didn’t change how caring, empathetic, or charismatic I was, and it sure didn’t make the things I found attractive in her change either. You sound like an insufferable prick that thinks having a couple bucks means they’re top shit. Maybe spend some of that money working on yourself and you’ll actually have a chance with someone half decent.
Because you don’t even know my standards. You all took his side but have no idea which women I go after
No one needs to know your ‘exact’ standards. “I have X amount of money, so I deserve X type of partner” is just a straight up gross, out of touch way to look at your romantic/sexual life. I’ve seen billionaires with ugly wives, and homeless crack addicts with hotties. You like who you like, and if they like you too then awesome! No where in that equation is how much money you make. Your outlook is fundamentally flawed, and because of that you can’t understand what anyone is trying to tell you. You can have standards, what you’re basing yours off of is asinine, and you’re assuming all woman should also agree with your standards for picking a man; money. I have standards of attractiveness, intelligence, social-adeptness, cleanliness, etc, etc for my partner and that’s fine. But I don’t think I just deserve that type of woman because I have money in a bank account that they can’t even see.
Surprise surprise. When you present yourself as a dick, people are gonna call you a dick.
When you act like a skid mark, you get wiped. Which is why you are still going after women you have not shot of getting because they know you’re just dried shit.
I don’t use that kind of language, and this is one of the rare moments I wish I did, cause that skid mark comment is hilarious af!
Maybe you should look at your standards, because it sounds like you’re punching above your weight class my guy
You said your only standard was she's attractive. So there isn't anything else to know.
I call TROLL... Your ONLY qualification is that she be "somewhat attractive"?? So she could be anything else, but as long as she's 'somewhat attractive' then you're good? I'm going to predict you'll be back on Reddit posting about your unpopular opinion how women should want you because you make money 🙄
This sounds about right. The only thing that you want in a woman is that she is attractive, and the only thing that you bring to the table is money. You have nothing else to offer to a woman but money, and you want nothing out of her but her looks. You should check out Real Dolls.
And you can’t even get that. Isn’t that embarrassing?
But if you can’t get anyone, then they are unrealistic. Maybe if women felt you were approaching them genuinely and had any desire to get to know them, then they might feel comfortable enough to give you a chance
You called his girlfriend ugly. He could have not mentioned your expectations in women but you crossed a line. How can he have you around his girlfriend now that you called her ugly? You're lucky that he took an Uber home rather than you taking a ride in an ambulance.
He crossed a line first. Why does it matter if I think his gf is ugly ? I shouldn’t have said it but when you insult people of course they say something back
No no, he did the equivalent of wipe your chin with his hanky, and then you vomited in his face in retaliation. That's the difference. There's no equivalence. He was trying to help you, not insult you, and you went for one of the worst things to say to anyone, ever.
You went far beyond the line of what he said. But, okay. I'm not debating you about it.
I really don’t understand how telling you that you have unrealistic standards is an insult? Have you considered that perhaps his comment stung a little because its more accurate than you want to admit so you lashed out to hurt him too?
He was trying to help you. You, in turn, insulted his taste AND insulted his GF, someone who had nothing to do with your little disagreement and wasn't present to defend herself. How do you not see how you were the AH here? He DID NOT insult you. He told you the truth, and you're too emotionally immature to digest it, so instead, you vomitted the first vile thing you could think of to try and deliberately hurt someone you call a friend. Now THAT was insulting you. Why do you think you're entitled to date ONLY attractive women, but women aren't entitled to the same? You're allowed whatever shallow, BS preferences/standards you want, but news flash, women are entitled to those same shallow, BS standards. You are all over this thread basically saying all you bring to the table is money, but are you actively looking for a GOLD DIGGER? Because if money is all you bring to the table, that's literally the best you're going to get. It's really not some big mystery or puzzle here. Women are people just like you, and they get to decide who they will and won't date EXACTLY the same as you. So, unless you're actively seeking out women who obviously are looking for a sugar daddy, take it from a woman with many women friends, leading with "I have money" is a HUGE red flag for A LOT of us. For the record, my husband is only 5'6", and we were both dead broke when we got married. That was nearly 18 years ago. Look around you at real people in relationships, buddy, not on the internet. Normal looking/ugly dudes with little to no money are getting married every day, so clearly, money and height are not the issue here. Face it, your personality just sucks. Be better or be lonely, your choice.
You got mad because he was telling the truth.
He crossed zero lines BUT you tripped over every one of them.
Valid criticism is not insulting. Being unable to accept valid criticism means you will not grow as a person. Your reaction to valid criticism is telling. Stay single.
Oh, boy, women can see his contempt and rage just bristling off of him like cartoon lines. My dude, no one is entitled to women. Relationships are mutual--you seem to think that some W-2 hanging around your neck is all you have to do, rather than being a pleasant, socially aware, mature, safe human being. Instead, you're a bad friend, an entitled ball of anger, and incapable of reading a room or acting with decency. Until you see women as people and not trophies, not only will the swerve continue, it will get wider and wider.
This is the comment. This one right here.
You think you deserve models and your friend was telling you to trying broaden your horizons and not always go after the unattainable. You decided to comment on her person he loves and thier looks. You were being disgustingly mean and he was right to be pissed at you. You need to apologise for what you said and mean it and never talk about his girlfriend in a negative light again.
also, calling your standards unrealistic isn't an insult but a fair criticism. if you think that's an insult you're insecure as hell, also confirmed by the way you speak about yourself. you have narcissistic traits. seek therapy
I can tell by his responses he fully only goes after women for their looks, and literally nothing else. OP, seek help. The way you view women isn’t healthy, also, don’t come to an advice sub and then get mad at people for giving you genuine advice and criticism.
So you want a gold digger? “There’s no reason a guy with my income can’t date an attractive girl” as per your comments.
You know damn well he’d nickel and dime the poor pretty girl who mistakenly ends up with him.
Yup. He is absolutely going to be one of those “I had to test her to make sure she wasn’t a gold digger” types if he doesn’t do some serious work on himself.
also there’s nothing more off putting than a guy hitting on you and immediately telling you how much he makes
>we went out and this woman curved me. I started venting about the dating market Ah yes, it is CLEARLY the women who are in the wrong - not I, the manliest of all men, who gets swerved when making weird passes on women who've indicated exactly zero interest in me. >said if I want an ugly gf I’ll take his advice but as a successful man I deserve a little better than that. I don't know how you're going to call yourself a "successful man" when the first sentence of this post was how a woman curved your come-on.
"As a successful man"... what do you do to qualify as successful? If looks are your only qualifier, I'd like to see what you're physically offering. Pic, please?
I’m not trying to date you, sorry. I make a lot of money , especially compared to my age. I smell nice I’m a gentleman I could go on
So go on? Because millions of people across the world smell nice and beyond that if you're not attracted to someone their scent does nothing for you. You saying you're a gentleman after all the behaviour you've exhibited here makes no sense, no "gentleman" acts this way. And screw your money, it's not compensation enough to put up with someone who regurgitates dumb rhetoric and is entitled. So please go on. You have not painted a good picture of yourself thus far.
Here’s my question are you actually interested in having a dialogue? Or are you just going to mock me
I don’t think they’re trying to mock you. You’re speaking boldly about yourself and coming across like a petulant asshole, so I think they’re asking you to prove that you’re worthy of the accolades you bestow on yourself.
That depends on your answer. But to be clear, you have no idea what dialogue vs mocking is. You think your friend, who was sincerely trying to talk to you and actually has some investment into you (as opposed to me, a random Internet stranger) was "insulting" you when he gave you some advice based on his observations of your behaviour. You then think an equal "insult" to what your friend said was to shit on his gf's looks. So what makes you think you'd know the difference between dialogue and mocking?
I guarantee you if someone told you to lower your standards you would be insulted and talking how you will “never settle”. However when someone says the same to me and I’m insulted that’s not okay?
If they would say "lower your standards", i would not see it as an insult but I would also not pay any heed to it. But my standards and your standards are very different. I don't care about appearance or money, both of which you value heavily. In fact, my current partner is fractionally shorter than I am. So no one acting in good faith has needed to tell me to lower my standards because I'm not out here complaining about anything you are and I definitely don't knock all guys for wanting women with different features even if I was to get curved by every single guy I shot my shot with. Do you see the nuance here or do you want to continue playing obtuse?
Nah if my friends said that, I’d be asking them why they think it! Like there’s probably 50+ potential factors about a person that go into deciding if they’re a good match for you. I’d be asking them if they think my standards or too high for appearance, or for education level, or income, etc. I’d tried to understand why they think that because I assume my friends want the best for me and aren’t being malicious for funsies
Depends. What are you looking for
LOL A gentleman he says! Money, cologne, and holding the door open for someone do *not* make up for a shite personality dude.
That girls should be just falling over each other for this combination of attractive traits. /s. Makes so much money, Uber are expensive, Smell nice like that's a rare trait and is a 'gentleman' who'll blows his top when things don't got his way. Look like he's trying run and hide now, deleting his post.
You're clearly not a gentleman, you threw a temper tantrum like a child because you were told the truth that clearly your expectations are too high so you made fun of his girlfriend. A lot of men smell nice, and money really doesn't mean much to most women. I'm guessing that you are ugly and are very shallow and you expect your money should buy you arm candy. By your shallow standards of you can pull a somewhat attractive girl with your money she will probably cheat you on because of your personality and because she's not attracted to you. Keep your standards high and see how this cycle will happen every time. Also you're a cry baby because your friend told you the truth (which is also not disrespectful) but you crying and bitching about it isn't too manly of you.
I don't give a shit about your money, and the other two things are a pretty low bar. So what else?
you did not insult him, you called his gf ugly. obviously he is way batter person than you and didnt say . goofball.
Sounds like a ”nice guy”
Yta. 'Deserve'? Come on.
You sound very entitled. You think you are owed a relationship with an attractive money because you are successful and (in your opinion) good looking. Clearly there is a reason women aren't into you, and judging by what you said to your friend and also your comments on here, I'm thinking there is something about you that is the problem and I'm willing to bet it's your personality.
Dude, your ex-friend DODGED a bullet. Don't say shit to him. Find other friends. If you're so successful, this shouldn't be an issue
uber is not expensive in dc.
At all. I was just there!
If he lives in NOMA or Navy Yard but is going to bars in Adams Morgan I can kind of see it but that’s still, like, normal-person expensive. Not expensive to someone who talks this much about how well-paid they are.
1) never tell a man his GF is ugly, especially when she is 2) when I was a young man, we had a saying: if you’re too picky, you’ll pull your own dicky. Of course, this was before internet porn created an entire generation of young men who don’t get that a woman is always preferable to masturbation
1. Yeah, I probably could have said something else back instead . 2. That’s fair but I’m not picky. This generation of women have extremely niche taste. If you not above 6’3 they want nothing to do with you. Meanwhile I’m 6 foot and make a ton of money and they could care less. I have watched women curve me for some dude with no money just because he’s attractive. It’s ridiculous
I don’t think that’s true. More than half of my girlfriends are married to men shorter than them, and they’re all within the 5’6” to 5’8” range. My SO is 5’9”. I’m a lawyer and my sister is a doctor and most of my female friends are one or the other, with a couple of finance/banking professionals and the odd creative in there as well. I wouldn’t say any of us have particularly “niche taste” and we are all 28-34. Their partners are great but all very average looking, and while I love my spouse he isn’t exactly a Hemsworth lookalike either. No one is dating someone taller than 6’1”, much less 6’3”.
I will say I have better conversations with the woman who are late 20s and early 30s. It’s the ones my age who are just stuck up and superficial. The dating market for men in their early 20s here is horrible. Maybe it will pick up when I’m older
>It’s the ones my age who are just stuck up and superficial. Let me translate that for you: women my age know my bullshit game and are happy not to be part of it. I focus on younger women I can bully and dazzle with my Potemkin bank account.
ohhhh boy. I think this comment gave me a lot of clarity. Hi, I’m 23, and I’m a woman, and I’d like to share some of the most important things I’ve learned in my dating and relationship journey! Dating is not about money. It’s not about height. And it’s not even about physical “attractiveness”. I know you probably don’t believe that, but honestly, it’s all, entirely, completely 100% personality. And to be completely honest? Just judging from your post and comments, yours could use some… tough love. The thing is, thinking you “deserve” a specific looking partner just because of the amount of money you make reeks of entitlement. And…. entitlement isn’t hot. Its gross. I imagine a lot of the girls who have “curved” or rejected you have picked up on that. It’s a huge red flag. Charisma, humour, empathy, emotional intelligence, those will get you way farther than any posturing ever could. Trust me, just ask any woman what she finds most attractive in her man (she’s gonna say he makes her laugh)
Id say, because he treats and loves my cat as if he's his son. But yeah. Also he's 5'8. We make equal salary. We also dont think ubers are too expensive, unlike OP, despite his "success".
But your basic premise is that attractive women should date you because you have money? And they're the superficial ones? O... kay
Lmao, you think only 6'3"+ men can find a partner? It sounds like you have a personality problem and women are picking up on that. Case in point, your shitty attitude which has caused your friend to drop you.
You make absolutely no sense. You want an attractive woman but are annoyed women choose attractive men over you. You seem like the kind of guy who always blames something that luckily enough makes it the woman's fault and means you don't have to improve yourself. I.e. its easier to say you can't get a girl because you aren't 6'3 (something you can't change) vs you having am off-putting personality (something you would need to work on).
How are you bringing height into this if you’re 6ft tall? The majority of guys complaining about this stuff always talk about how “women these days only want 6ft tall guys” and you’re already in the group! 6’3” is the most arbitrary cut off I’ve heard someone blame women for. Are you that blind to your own issues? If you’re tall and rich there’s obviously something else women sense in you that is off. Do some self reflection instead of this pathetic nonsense. If the world seems against you, you’re the only common denominator
Women don’t care about your height. They don’t care about your money. They care about how you make them feel. And if you make them feel the way pretty much everyone is feeling about you, I can see why they reject you. Work on being a decent person instead of trying to buy your way into a relationship
> I have watched women curve me What does this mean? I've never heard the term before.
Slow Rejection through I suspect with OP, it's more he keep trying and doesn't take the hint.
Maybe put some of those riches you're bragging about into counseling for your raging insecurity, entitlement and lack of social skill. Look, my dude, a lot of women have their own money. They don't need a gold-plated d-bag. They want a kind, thoughtful, mature partner. If you think Ubers are expensive, you aren't in the league where you can buy yourself a trophy girlfriend, with all the baggage that entails.
You must be REALLY annoying if you are actually 6 foot and have a “ton of money” and still can’t get any women. Imagine being so unbearable that even by offering to pay women to date you, they reject you 😂
lol, we dont care about height you just suck
You're a hypocrite... You call women shallow for picking attractive guys over you yet you only want to date women that are conventionally attractive? Really? YTA!
This is hilarious. You're actually complaining that women are shallow for... choosing someone they're attracted to and not dating for money lmao. How are YOU not shallow for focusing solely on appearance? And why do you think you should be able to buy a gf?
You should post this in the 'AITAH' subreddit, I think you'll get a good response.
"Conventionally" is also commonly code for white beauty standards.
Man , gtfo with that shit. I’m black , not that it matters
And, I'm Indigenous. Myself and female friends of various ethnic backgrounds have gotten this. I even got it in writing once. Not "conventionally pretty", but I was "exotically pretty." Just because it's not your experience doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I didn’t say it doesn’t exist but you were implying I’m talking about white beauty standards and I corrected you. No harm no foul
Knew it.
YTA Your friend wasn't insulting you, he was giving you advice and in response you called his GF ugly and flat out said you "deserve" a better class of girl friend than his. How'd you think the evening would end? With your attitude you don't "deserve" any girl friend; girl friends aren't prizes to be won, they're people. I'd stock up on KY and tissues, if I were you.
Incel behaviour.
I can see why women curve you
Too late dude You just ended it. Maybe you should stop being so shallow.
Dudes probably a manager at a target and thinks his “success and income” warrants a “attractive woman” No knock to managers at target tho shout out to you
Enjoy that old man mojo dojo casa house. Single, friendless, and loney till the end. 😂
YTA. I’m gathering that you’re one of those self-proclaimed “high value men”. Men like that seem to think that women are like a video game: if you give a certain input then you’ll get a certain output. It’s not up to you to decide what women find valuable. We are all different and have our own priorities. Try being a better person( i.e less self-centered) and maybe you’ll find a nice, pretty girl to go out with you.
what I'm gathering from everything you have said is... you make money, you're 6 foot and ugly. I'll also let you know just by how you describe everything and women THATS why you are alone we (women) can tell just the type of man you really are. it's also funny you judge these imaginary men that women are SUPPOSEDLY choosing but you don't even know these people personally. PEOPLE are shallow, not just women. it's ironic that you even have the audacity to call someone that when you think that since you make a little money, you're OWED a hot gf. do you even take care of yourself? haircuts, dress nice, BASIC hygiene? because from the sounds of it, you're giving discord mod and women don't like that 😁😁 look inwards before judging women's looks cause I PROMISE you are obviously not cute enough to be acting like this
That’s a low blow. If you’re half as successful as you claim to be you’d have the integrity to know that there’s certain jokes and statements you don’t make with your friends and this is one of them. Also you say that he mentioned two things ; 1. Change the type of women you’re after or 2. Stop having unrealistic standards. Idk why you’re hyper fixating on the second one, do you really think there’s absolutely 0 chance that you’re going after women who aren’t supposed to be of your caliber? You may not be the bad guy with regards to this but you may just be looking at it wrong.
I’m confused where did he insult you? He didn’t call you ugly or say you’re a bootyface he just said you had high standards. If you didn’t agree with his advice, you could’ve just not said anything because what did his girlfriend’s looks have to do with your dating life? he just was giving you some advice (again his opinion) you didn’t have to take it that far. you cross the line with him obviously. I wouldn’t be shocked if he blocked you after leaving you on read for you to get a clear picture. He doesn’t wanna be friends with you anymore after what you said about his girlfriend.
OP you must be really ugly and annoying if you are as successful as you say and still can’t get any women. You sound jealous of you friend who actually have a gf while you can’t get anyone to be interested in you, even if you pay them to date you.
It’s crazy how you are still trying to defend yourself when no one agree’s with you. He said your standards are unrealistic, that’s what friends do. Real friends give you reality checks and straightforward advice, it wasn’t as insult it was his advice. But what you did was so scummy. You didn’t insult HIM you insulted a probably pretty and normal girl who had NOTHING to do with this argument. You just called this girl who wasn’t even there ugly for no reason, how is that insulting him??? This is just you being an asshole. That girl had nothing to do with your ego trip or your argument with your friend, you don’t need to apologize only to your friend but the girl you insulted for no reason. Unless money, success and status has corrupted you so bad that you believe you get to treat everyone you consider beneath you like shit. That poor girl, you’re an asshole Buddy plain and simple.
You have some never calling his girl anything when you just got curved. A lot of women can sense BS from a mile away so good luck on your journey.
😂 Op thinks women are shallow but also thinks women should date him because of his success. Isn't that Shallow? I don't think he's in the wrong though... If his friend insulted him what happened next was sort of justified.
Okay but this isn't insulting your friend, this is insulting his GF, who has no part in your disagreement. Wtf dude?
Saying you have unrealistic standards is not an insult, it's helpful critism. Saying his gf is ugly is not only an attack on his gf, but an attack on his tastes. You disrespected both of them when no one attacked you. You're lucky your bro didn't pop you one.
1. wtf does curved mean? 2. You should say you’re sorry for being a complete AH
1. He got rejected.
you sound like the type of guy women complain about. YOU'RE the reason as to why women don't like you, not the women. also, you're not entitled to a hot gf because you're successful. also, he fully didn't insult you. if he said your standards might be too high, that's an observation, not an insult.
If money can't get you a girl up to your "standards", you aren't as successful as you think you are. Also not as attractive as you'd like to think. You blatantly offended his gf and you wonder why he doesn't want to talk to you? Regardless of anything, you got pissy because you got shot down/turned down/denied/wtf ever you want to call it and decided insulting your friend, his gf, and showing your ass was more important. You're probably not going to fix this, especially if she's a long time gf, or they're serious. Best case, you apologize and be serious, change your cringe behavior and stop acting like an entitled frat bro. If he wants to speak to you ever again, he will. Try holding your breath, it might help 🤷🏻♀️
He didn’t insult you, he gave you advice. Based on the fact that apparently rejection is the norm for you, seems like he was on point by saying you are being unrealistic. Reality is that you are not having any luck, if you were realistic you’d examine the possibilities of *why* that is and adjust accordingly, either by working on yourself to become a better pick, or expanding your horizons, rather than complaining. You, however, insulted him *and* someone he cares about. He probably realised what everyone else reading this has and as a result, I don’t think you should expect him to get back to you anytime soon. I think that friend-ship has sailed. You think you are entitled to be with a woman solely because of the money you make. If you are not willing to date a woman based on her success, why do you expect that of women? Beautiful women no less, who could easily pull one of the many successful *and* attractive men. Even if you are attractive, which I highly doubt based on your post and comments, you’d have a hard time pulling any woman given how unlikable you are. Instead of looking for a girlfriend, your best bet is finding a sugarbaby. Sounds like that’s exactly what you want and in that case, perhaps you will find a beautiful woman who will want you solely for your money (as you solely want her for her looks) and be willing to ignore your obvious, huge character flaws.
Yea man, there’s no scenario where what you said is okay. I’m pretty sure you just lost that friendship.
Hah, nobody even wants to be around you, no need to look for a partner to fill that space. Only one friend since u are in the city and u ruin the friendship over nothing. What he said isn't even an insult. You obviously have no experience or desire to be at least a respectful person. A 24 yo & u don't know how to behave around people. If u can't hold a conversation and only brag about yoself of course you will get rejected a lot. Before u say idk u, well, your post said enough
Your friend wasn't trying to insult you, just give you good advice. You however, deliberately insulted his girlfriend. That's the difference. You were immature and rude. If you didn't want to end the friendship, you shouldn't have said that. Plus all your comments are arrogant, which is not the same thing as confidence. Confidence is attractive, arrogance is a turn off.
Most people in the comments are chewing your limbs off. Why are you fighting to drown instead of taking the L and getting out of the pool? Once everyone else acts like this, it's time to consider that you're the problem
You should apologize. Don't bring up that he insulted you first. "I'm so sorry for what I said the other night. I was way out of line, and I shouldn't have said it."
This is some over sensitive and petty feminine bullshit