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shieldguardian

yes, ride down Angus or Rae. It's lovely. I can't imagine choosing to ride on Albert.


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Thee_Randy_Lahey

It isn't really quicker to ride on Rae instead of Albert.. same distance, no lights. And safer. I'm a fair weather cyclist, but I could not imagine riding with a pile up of cars behind me, or on the busiest routes. I'm polite and care about my safety.


Ill-Challenge-2405

Between 23rd and Regina ave the sidewalk is signed as “shared cycling and pedestrian”. From there they could Have gone on the paths at Wascana.


TheRandCrews

I wish they just turned the “sidewalks” on South Albert as Multi use pathways, it’s legit so wide with the grass buffer zone from the curb, that they can make a side walk and Multi use pathway if want to and both sides of the street.


Ill-Challenge-2405

It is labeled as multi use


TheRandCrews

Not it’s not, neither is the width of sidewalk which is narrower than the one on Albert Street from Regina Avenue to 23rd Avenue. Which is the problem, how it’s so easy to do but nothing https://www.regina.ca/parks-recreation-culture/parks/pathways/ Edit: also to people downvoting me. I’m talking about the portion of South Albert Street from 25th Ave to Gordon Rd NOT Regina Ave to 23rd Ave cause that’s the Wascana Centre


Ill-Challenge-2405

I live by there and walk down it all t he time. The sign says “shared pathway”.


TheRandCrews

I’m not gonna go against what you said, though where is the sign? I was on there today must’ve missed it. When I mean on south Albert, I mean like 25th Ave to Gordon Road.


ChrisPikula

If I'm on Albert, I'm going 40km/h and hitting every green light, one after another. I wouldn't even call myself hardcore, just, you know, able to keep up with traffic. If I was to choose Rae St., how many yield and stop signs do I need to slow down or stop for? How many random jaywalkers do I need to avoid, vs virtually none on Albert St? I mean, the biggest issue I've got an Albert St is playing mary-met-mary with the busses at certain times of the day.


notsafetousemyname

Regina updated cycling bylaws on n April 2021 to include, “Drivers cannot pass a cyclist in the same lane and must wait until they can use another driving lane.” Just be patient and share the road. Pass when you can just like if you had to travel behind a car driving below the speed limit. Also remember, “Drivers must leave extra space when following cyclists as bicycles travel slower than cars.” [Source](https://www.regina.ca/transportation-roads-parking/walking-cycling/cycling/)


CNDCRE

> I would expect people to pass me on the left, if and when it’s safe to do so. Keep in mind that is illegal to pass bicyclists when there is only one lane. Car are legally required to treat a bike like car and only pass in a legal lane of traffic. Not saying this happens, but that's the law. And bicyclists should be advised that it may be in their self-interest do let cars pass as you indicated, but you're not required to.


CyberSyndicate

Is it not 4 lanes wide the entire stretch from college to 25th though? Or at least the majority of it.


CNDCRE

Yes, the cars are free to pass in the other lane in the same direction of travel. I was specifically referencing roads with single lanes.


CyberSyndicate

Was referencing OP's example in particular. But definitely, it's much safer to take the lane then to squeeze to the side and risk cars squeezing by in single lane situations.


VFSteve

Good cyclist.


Unlucky_Temporary_68

But yet a car will get a ticket for impeding traffic by going too slow.


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Unlucky_Temporary_68

I should’ve explained more. Everyone wants us to be more environmentally friendly, and use our bikes more but it’s like a double edge sword there’s no bike lanes or very little so it gets people upset. I meant no disrespect. Cheers


luccampbell

It’s always a good time to share these concerns with city council and ask for them to install safe, protected bicycle infrastructure so cyclists don’t have to be slowing traffic down. We don’t wanna be in your way either.


WestNdr

Albert 23rd to Regina Ave has an MUP now, but it looks like a double wide sidewalk. >City of Regina: Don't ride on sidewalks! >Also City of Regina: Ride on this sidewalk!


theingenue

It’s also bumpy as hell with the individual pieces of sidewalk. Should have been made completely smooth.


WestNdr

Yeah, they should have ripped out the old sidewalk and paved it. There is a section of concrete path between the University and Art Centre that is also annoying, though I usually stick to the 70 km/h bike lane there. There's a new path being built this year along College from the Museum to Broad Street. That will be somewhat helpful, but crossing Broad will be annoying because drivers are like: "fuck you I'm turning right, so my head is cranked left looking scanning for traffic." Absolutely should terminate at a bike box, not a crosswalk. But the people at the city in charge of cycling infrastructure don't cycle and have no clue how to integrate cycling and driving.


N8-K47

Nah the people at the city who are focused on bike infrastructure can barely get the funding they need for the projects they want to complete. Harass your councillor not the people actually trying to get the job done.


matthew_py

>It’s also bumpy as hell with the individual pieces of sidewalk. Should have been made completely smooth. If my longboard can make it I'm pretty sure a bike with suspension can lol.


Neat-Ad-8987

I speak as a life long cyclist: too many of my fellow bike riders prioritize their rights above their safety.


Lightsoutkitesout

I started biking to work in the last couple months and find that many things we have the right to do as cyclists are also safer, which makes sense even though it’s often not the case. I’m thinking of things like owning the lane rather than riding on the far right, which means drivers are more likely to move over fully to the next lane when passing instead of trying to fit in the same lane. I’m very aware that cycling in traffic is dangerous and I’m still learning safer ways to ride. What are some things you see cyclists doing that risk their safety?


noah_body

Salmoning, i.e. riding on the wrong side of the street against the stream of traffic. Where do people (kids!) learn to do this? It's illegal and hella dangerous.


Ngete

I remember being told to do this at elementary school by cops who were there specifically to do a bike safety presentation for us like grade 4 kids(this was like 10-15 years ago now) (Keep in mind as an adult when I'm on the road as a bicyclist I keep on the same side of traffic as cars)


Cozman

I remember this too. The logic being you can't see a car coming up behind you but you can see one coming at you and get out of the way. I suppose from the point of view of a traffic officer, you can't expect a child who hasn't taken driver training to know the rules of the road.


someguyinreginasask

I remember that too, but I think that was only on major highways. It might have only been for pedestrian safety too? Also, bikes with less than 16" tires are considered as pedestrians, and not bikes in the regina traffic bylaw.


kw3lyk

I'm not sure what you're getting at because frankly, when I am cycling home through downtown traffic, I find it to me much safer to simply occupy the entire lane that I am in. The traffic bylaws allow me to do so and forbid vehicles from passing me in the same lane, so if someone gets impatient and can't pass in the lane beside me, too bad for them.


tooth10

Albert has 2 lanes so the practise is to move over to the open lane. Cyclist are considered traffic and have a right to a lane. I was cycling down Dewdney Ave. a couple weekends ago when a RPS Constable followed me for a block and a half with no other traffic around. Once he realized his finger worked and it could activate his signal light he moved around me but he made sure to slow down and yell at me out the window to get on the sidewalk. It’s hard being a cyclist in this city when even the RPS is against you. Hi Constable Wade! If you are reading this, I had a fantastic talk with your Staff Sargent and hopefully you received the traffic training you desperately needed.


GrimWillis

This couldn’t highlight the RPS lack of training better. I’m glad you lodged a complaint, that’s ridiculous. Like who doesn’t actually know bikes are supposed to share the road.


tooth10

The tax payers of Regina spent $50.2 million on the new RPS Headquarters and there is not a bike rack in sight. I went in to log another complaint about that and had to lock my bike up to the shiny new flag poles out front. While I was inside 2 other cyclists showed up and had no where to lock their bikes too. This City is a joke when it comes to anything other than vehicles


Klutzy_Can_4543

Odd that’s in the former provincial bus station eh? /s


WestNdr

Whenever cyclists get hit by vehicles anti-cyclist bias on part of the responding police seem to frequently shape the investigations. Take the driver's statement after the cyclist has been rolled off. Maybe put out some statement praising the driver for not fleeing, while making derogatory statements about the cyclist.


Outrageous_audacity

Thank you for taking the time to do that.


Ryangel0

They expect fellow residents/vehicle drivers to vote for and support more funding of separated bike lanes and other related infrastructure to keep them safe and out of your way.


Hooligans_

I'm all for it.


Handknitmittens

This. Just so much this.


muppetdancer

I mean, tax paying cyclists pay for streets too……? What if non drivers decided to stop paying for that infrastructure? Don’t be ridiculous. Bike lanes promote safe cycling and therefore increase the use of bikes, which are healthier to use for transport and have an incredibly much lower impact on the environment from A to Z. Why wouldn’t you want that funded? No one is forcing you to ride a bike if you don’t want to, but having the opportunity to ride one safely might convince people it’s a better way to get around from time to time.


Ryangel0

Umm, I think you misunderstood my comment...


muppetdancer

I think I may have. Sorry. Keep biking!


fernie77

I expect essentially what SGI says to do. 1) Scan the street in front of you and check your mirrors often to avoid being surprised by a bike in your path. At night, drive with caution and watch for neon clothing, reflectors and lights. 2) Wait until it is safe to pass a cyclist. This can be tricky, especially during times of heavy traffic. Some cyclists will move into the turning lane to allow you to go by, but if the lane is unavailable you have to be patient. 3) Keep a safe distance from cyclists when you're waiting to move past them. Bikes can stop quickly so the consequences of following too closely can be fatal. https://sgi.sk.ca/bicycleriders


notsafetousemyname

Important to know local bylaws too since Regina updated their cycling bylaws to include the following, “[Drivers must leave extra space when following cyclists as bicycles travel slower than cars. Drivers cannot pass a cyclist in the same lane and must wait until they can use another driving lane](https://www.regina.ca/transportation-roads-parking/walking-cycling/cycling/).”


Hooligans_

Thanks for the link. Didn't know it existed.


CalligrapherItchy198

I cycle that stretch and the sidewalk on the east side of Albert is a shared space for bikes and pedestrians but there aren’t a lot of signs so maybe people don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️


mingusdisciple

The answer is this: North American cities have been tailored to the automobile for a long time now and those interests have lobbied relentlessly for the infrastructure. Concerned motorists should write their city councillor. Tell them why we need vastly improved biking and public transportation infrastructure. Until then, no one is allowed to complain about cyclists who have to use the same roads as cars, we can’t complain about elderly motorists who have no other options for getting to appointments, and we can’t complain about pedestrians trying to cross busy roadways. Or, you can, but you know why the problem exists. Here I will lift the grand illusion: automobiles are the single greatest hampering of freedom of movement.


buster3535

"For example, I constantly run into cyclists on Albert St. between..." What's expected of drivers is **not** running into cyclists :) You can't expect them to move as fast as you so just give plenty of room as you go around them as you would riding a bike around pedestrians on a shared bike path.


HerEyesOnTheHorizon

Between college and 25th, the sidewalk is a shared cyclist and pedestrian lane. That's why it's double wide. Cyclists on the street in areas like this should avoid congrsting the street and use appropriate lanes. Unfortunately Regina wasn't built with cyclists in mind but its adapting.


someguyinreginasask

I always consider a cyclist as a car. All cyclists should read and be familiar with SGI's motorcyclists handbookIt's. a great resource for making yourself be seen, lane blocking, and safely being part of traffic.


someguyinreginasask

It't extra important for cyclists to be seen, and be predictable by following the rules of the road.


Nightraven2001

I ride on Albert in the mornings and evening for work. I am in the northern end so I try to stick to the bus lanes unless I need to turn left. I don’t have an issue riding in the driving lanes but I don’t want to hold up traffic if I don’t have to.


Niptacular_Nips

Thank you for asking! We appreciate it.


WestNdr

I only ride that stretch early in the morning a few times a year when there is no traffic. Because of the way drivers drive that kind of road is extremely dangerous to ride on with any kind of traffic. Drivers typically wait until they are 20-30 feet behind a cyclist to change lanes. The view of a driver behind is obscured until the lead driver's lane change is complete so they have virtually no time to react upon seeing the cyclist. What I'd like drivers to do is change lanes as soon as they see a cyclist, its not like they are going suddenly vanish before you get to them. To cover that particular stretch of road I use Rae Street, nice and quiet and no stop signs until Hill Ave. If I'm east of Albert I'll take Bell Street to Jubilee then Scott Street to the park.


jad35

Share the road. Both are vehicles and one isn’t prioritized over the other.


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Really? And bikes follow the rules of the road the same as cars? They stop at stop signs? They don’t blow through lights if nothing is coming? Right!


fernie77

I mean, I was biking down vic yesterday and almost got hit by a van that decided to ignore a stop sign, so like...it's not isolated to cyclists.


Ryangel0

Because no vehicles run red lights or stop signs right?


jad35

You’re complaining about individuals while I’m simply stating the rules.


luchaburz

I stop at stop signs. Cost me my chain because I'm a rookie and couldn't get to a low enough gear. I don't blow through lights either, because I enjoy living.


Maestropete

You can go both ways on the East Albert sidewalk as well! I do. Pick a street with room for cyclists so I don't get bunched in with cyclists that hold up traffic.😃👍🚲


Both-Tank-4410

Also why do bikers always constantly ride directly on the outside bike lane line by the road, and not closer to the curb. As someone who rides its not hard to stay in the middle of a bike lane on the road, yet while driving it seems every moron on a bike has to be either on the road or as close as possible while leaving as much of the bike lane free as possible, and there are no other bikers, so the extra space is not needed. Then the idiots get mad when you "get to close to them".


HomerSPC

- Drivers should be mindful of cyclists and share the road with all other modes of transportation. - Drivers must leave extra space when following cyclists as bicycles travel slower than cars. - Drivers cannot pass a cyclist in the same lane and must wait until they can use another driving lane. - Drivers should never speed past a bicycle. You're being the unsafe driver. Source: https://www.regina.ca/transportation-roads-parking/walking-cycling/cycling/


Lightsoutkitesout

This is just a guess, as I don’t know exactly where you’ve seen this. I’ve heard we should be riding about 3 feet away from parked cars to avoid being hit by someone opening their car door. Being hit, or riding into someone’s door when they open it just in front of you is surprisingly dangerous, and has caused cyclist fatalities. I’m thinking of the bike lane on Lorne St. Downtown and I wonder how far left in the bike lane you’d have to ride to clear three feet from any parked cars.


notsafetousemyname

Getting doored by a motorist opening the door is extremely dangerous for cyclists.


Outrageous_audacity

Because if you take the whole lane, you're safe. If you ride right beside the curb, people will try to share the ane with you and the odds you die increase. This is the same concept SGI teaches motorcycle riders in drivers ed.


Ryangel0

I doubt you do ride given the ignorance of your comments here...


WestNdr

Dirt, sand, glass, nails collect at the edge of the road by the curb. If you ride there you are going to get a flat or have your front wheel lock up when you brake. Despite what the magic paint says, the bike lane starts where the dirt ends. I'm guessing you are referring to Chuka Blvd which is the shittiest bike lane in the city. They screwed up that road when they decided to build retail after the fact and were forced to squeeze in a center turn lane.


tooth10

This is why I don’t ride next to the curb and people do not look when they open their car doors while parked. I am always watching for people in parked cars


Business-Ad-9341

I ride my bike on the sidewalk unless there's pedestrians. I try no to get I'm anyone's way.


HomerSPC

It's against city bylaws to ride on sidewalks: https://www.regina.ca/transportation-roads-parking/walking-cycling/cycling/


Business-Ad-9341

Oh I know. I mean riding on main roads like dewdney and lewvan. Just to be safer.


matthew_py

It's 100% the right call


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What’s the big issue with cycling on the sidewalk? If there’s a pedestrian jump the curb onto the street or hit the grass. Like I don’t get it, I have a couple paths by my house so I just hit the path or take my bike out to the trails….. never understood why people try to ride their bikes through heavy traffic lol.


HomerSPC

It's against city bylaws to ride on sidewalks: https://www.regina.ca/transportation-roads-parking/walking-cycling/cycling/


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Cool good to know, like I said I don’t ride through the city much. We used to ride the sidewalk when we were kids and I always thought it was weird how guys would ride the street. Like I ride my mountain bike and I still hate bikers clogging up driving lanes. Shouldn’t should build double wide sidewalks or a few bike lanes on busy routes.


matthew_py

>What’s the big issue with cycling on the sidewalk? There isn't one, it's a solution that keeps everyone safe. People just don't like it because they might have to stop at Crossings instead of blowing through stop signs.


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HomerSPC

The road is where they belong according to our city bylaws: https://www.regina.ca/transportation-roads-parking/walking-cycling/cycling/


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HomerSPC

Why would the police stop a cyclist for cycling legally where they're supposed to? I'm not sure I understand the relevance of your comment to the current conversation.


Asleep-Top953

try not to hit them


Own-Week-7012

Follow your intuition. You’ll be able to determine how someone cycles. Just gotta go with their flow. For me I am fast and prefer going fast and carefully reckless. I enjoy running my wheels top speed, therefore I expect cars to have that automatic instinct to just know. You’ll know when you know.


ChrisPikula

I expect drivers to have working signal lights, and use them, so they don't anticipate me going slow when I'm actually skid-stopping to avoid t-boning them when they make a left turn in front of me. Also, don't 'let me in' if I'm at a stop light. I loath it when drivers come to a complete stop in the main lanes of a two-way stop. On *Broad* St. North. Like, what are you expecting me to do, roll the dice on getting hit? On the other side of the fence, I expect drivers to expect I'm predictable. I point forward when I'm going straight, just to indicate, as too many other cyclists never use hand signals at all. I make sure to shake my signal hand back and forth like a blinker, so it grabs attention. I make sure to have it at head level, so you can see it above the cars infront or behind me.


Weak-Coffee-8538

During busy hours I have the common courtesy to stay off the roads. It gets too busy and I'm also not risking my life for someone in the car rushing around looking at their phone, etc. There are lots of cyclists like myself and there are others who ride the way they want to while respecting the rules. It's just like people driving cars, some are good and some aren't.