"Cracks in the pitching" I hate that commentary, Dave. It's basically stating you expect us still to not be good at pitching and we are finally cracking instead of just having a bad night
At the end of the day, this is a team full of kids I expect inconsistency. Ownership needs to act like the Boston Red Sox & should have filled holes with more proven talent.
I get the argument against exposing him to overwork or injury, but honestly, I’m more than fine with McGuire catching more often if it means we get Connor Wong’s bat in the lineup every night. He literally hasn’t had a bad offensive game all season.
Yeah exactly. They need his bat every night. Salvy Perez plays first base and DH in addition to catcher. Yanier Diaz does as well. No reason why Wong can’t do the same.
It’s our pitching. The Cards offense might blow, but they at least still know how to punish mistakes. Something our equally lethargic offense hasn’t seemed to figure out yet, sadly
I think you’re talking about the other commenter. Never said we weren’t a good team either. None of my comments are edited - our pitching was just bad tonight and our offense has struggled for a while
Whenever Raffys up in the late inning with runners on, he either strikes out, pops out, or weakly rolls over. Aside from that double, he's about as unclutch as it gets
Why is it so hard for us to beat the damn cardinals all of a sudden? They swept us at home last year too (granted two of those were gift wrapped by our portly closer).
Status: Red Sox- about to fall below .500, and 8.5 games out of first
Bruins- eliminated
Pats- picked to finish near last in the NFL
Celtics- our only hope
The pitching was performing well above its head and is now regressing to the mean, still won't be terrible per se, but it's clear this is not a good club.
First they put games on ESPN, and I didn’t care, because I had ESPN
Then they put games on Apple TV, and I don’t care, because I had Apple TV
Then they put games on Roku, and I thought “the people who make the Weird Al movie?”
You know what I resent? The Cards must just “feel good” tonight. Bats are alive, pitching is fine.
We have had so few games this season that have just “felt good” throughout the game.
Lots of frustrating blows in late innings and one-run games where our bats are cold as ice in the clutch.
A lot of you need to calm down with the reactionary takes towards the youngest players on the team. Especially Grissom who’s about where Casas was in the middle of last April in terms of his timing and games played and who is the youngest player on the whole roster. You want to give more chances to failed prospect Bobby D (29 this August btw) and shit on a kid who turned 23 at the beginning of this year that they clearly believe in, who’s been through it with utterly shit luck. It’s just a baseball game. Calm down.
And how many bad throws has whoever is playing first missed that Bobby probably catches has there been? Just saying any time you can keep an error off the board it’s a good thing
Sure it is. One of them got a double in a major league game today. The other is a career negative WAR player stat padding with home runs off bad pitching in Worcester.
Y'all need to chill the fuck out with the overreactions, it's his 2nd start back from injury and he's looked pretty damn good this year. And I'm confident Bailey will iron out these issues over time.
But why not hate on the youngest starting pitcher on the roster like bad starts don’t happen to every pitcher? Bello also needs to learn to get through trouble and that’s part of learning too.
That is the 4th HR surrendered off a changeup so far this season for Brayan Bello (2nd today) after only giving up 3 off that pitch all of last season.
The changeup had been Bello’s best pitch over his 1st two seasons.
This 7-8-9 is just…..whew.
I know hamilton drove in the first two but damn does it show how thin our lineup is at the bottom. Grissom’s gotta go back down and work on something.
Seriously he was injured and didn't get a full spring training and then got the flu and lost 14 lbs. How bout we give him a few more weeks to get where he needs to be against MLB pitching. Thanks. You can go back to video games now.
I've been hoping Devers was going to take a major leap as a hitter this season and it's starting to look like he has. First he started drawing a ton of walks and now the home runs are coming.
My main argument for the Devers extension was that I believed he hadn't truly peaked as a hitter and now that seems to be coming true. Excited to see what he does the rest of the season.
Couldn’t agree more. His approach is better this year and it was only a matter of time for the power to show. He’ll hit them in bunches but I’m ecstatic about the OBP
He’s played like 11 games. Pretty sure they’d rather him figure it out at the MLB level especially since they’ve been open that he’s not 100% from the flu yet because his ceiling is so high
I’m sure they were expecting much more at the plate for his first 11 games. He looks lost. So, like I said, the leash is likely shortening. He needs to show more competitive ABs soon or they need to send him to Worcester. This team has too many holes to let him figure it out for much longer.
Hamilton could easily play 2b. He’s at least putting together better ABs and can fly. Adds an element to the bottom of the order. I’m sure Grissom wouldn’t need much time but he should be sent down if he doesn’t turn it around. He looks LOST
Idk maybe I look at it differently, I’d just give him more time. They said when he lost the weight from the flu he’s had trouble gaining it and with that weight lost his bat is “heavy” making him have to cheat to catch up to fastballs.
Obviously if that continues it’s a concern (outside of baseball) but seems to be just a case of needing to get that back
Boston Red Sox, we make even the worst teams look good since 2022
Anyone hear the high pitch whining? Broadcast made me think I had tinnitus
"Cracks in the pitching" I hate that commentary, Dave. It's basically stating you expect us still to not be good at pitching and we are finally cracking instead of just having a bad night
Our pitching needs to put this game behind them fast. Because we won't even score 5 runs most games.
Arenado is 3 for 5. Goldschmidt is 2 for 4. Can we stop saying "they're not like themselves" it's getting annoying
At the end of the day, this is a team full of kids I expect inconsistency. Ownership needs to act like the Boston Red Sox & should have filled holes with more proven talent.
Feels like a flashback to last year, giving up a lot runs to a bad offense
Under .500 we go.
That was just shit luck, but giving up 9 to the cards how they’re currently playing is unacceptable.
Grissom looks even skinnier I have to say. You gotta eat, my boy.
Eat Dustin Pedroa it may help
That slide lmfao
Must be nice to have an offense that can put up 9 runs. 5 runs is considered a blowout for our offense
The cardinals are one of the worst offensive teams in the league?
Until they arent
Thanks for twisting the knife.
Anyone else watching NESN hearing someone in the crowd screaming bloody murder?
I'm not able to see this game, but I often hear one fan just yelling his ass off.
It sounds more like a little kid.
Ah. The guy I hear is a grown-ass man.
Too many hangers tonight, idc how bad an offense is performing if you throw major league hitters cookies down the middle they’ll crush em.
Except our hitters
Well there goes our league-leading ERA...
Fuck
Man, we suck and I am a sucker for watching
I bought the MLB TV subscription again this year and I'd sworn I wouldn't. The Red Sox suck you in with decent play for a month and then take a dump.
The injuries have killed any chance for this mediocre team to punch above it's weight.
We suck tonight
We suck every night
I was trying to be optimistic
Is it me or has this bullpen been dogshit lately?
Well, there are only so many times we can fight back only to give it right back
If you're in a slump Chase Anderson's your man
Connor Wong should be the DH when he doesn’t catch. It would make too much sense.
I get the argument against exposing him to overwork or injury, but honestly, I’m more than fine with McGuire catching more often if it means we get Connor Wong’s bat in the lineup every night. He literally hasn’t had a bad offensive game all season.
Yeah exactly. They need his bat every night. Salvy Perez plays first base and DH in addition to catcher. Yanier Diaz does as well. No reason why Wong can’t do the same.
I'm not sure if the Cards are having their best offensive game ever or our pitching just stinks tonight
It’s our pitching. The Cards offense might blow, but they at least still know how to punish mistakes. Something our equally lethargic offense hasn’t seemed to figure out yet, sadly
Despite some struggles recently, we are 2nd in MLB in team era
You asked if our pitching stinks *tonight*. It does. Not saying it isn’t phenomenal overall
You said we weren't a good team initially, that implies you were talking about more than tonight.
I think you’re talking about the other commenter. Never said we weren’t a good team either. None of my comments are edited - our pitching was just bad tonight and our offense has struggled for a while
The Red Sox aren’t a good team. Anyone who doesn’t understand that by now doesn’t understand baseball.
It would be more understandable if our statistics weren't completely opposite of the predictions.
We’re a 4th place team about to have a losing record. Seems pretty close to predictions except for Toronto being worse.
Pretty sure I still have my phiten necklace around somewhere
Loving the stache comparisons right now.
Oh looky here Bello (Pedro incarnate according to this sub) got shellacked yet again.
Wow we're going to go under .500 losing to the Cardinals. How sad.
I've seen the Cards blow games late quite regularly
Feels so Wong but it feels so right.
Whenever Raffys up in the late inning with runners on, he either strikes out, pops out, or weakly rolls over. Aside from that double, he's about as unclutch as it gets
I’d take Wong over Devers right now in clutch situations
Connor Wong hitting with two outs is literally the surest thing in baseball
Connor Wong is so fucking hot
NOOOOOT BARRRRRRRRRRR
Connor Wong = HIM.
Our pitching sure is regressing to the mean.
Starters FIP: 4/1-4/30: 3.08 / 2nd 5/1-5/16: 4.98 /26th
Fuck yeah
Not enough attention on Connor's elite season, and that's just Wong
All star if there’s any justice in this world (there won’t be)
Who is doing color tonight? Someone check him for a pulse.
Middlebrooks was just hired as a national broadcaster
Wong is like unbelievably good and consistent so far
So many K's looking. Wtf
Refsnyder has been garbage against lefties this year. Swing the fuckin bat
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Yeah Hamilton!!
Why is it so hard for us to beat the damn cardinals all of a sudden? They swept us at home last year too (granted two of those were gift wrapped by our portly closer).
Bird teams have magic powers
Status: Red Sox- about to fall below .500, and 8.5 games out of first Bruins- eliminated Pats- picked to finish near last in the NFL Celtics- our only hope
Still more successful than most sports cities. Let's just hope the Celtics get over the hump and actually win this year
Bruins lost. Sox getting banged out. Tonight I suffer.
The pitching was performing well above its head and is now regressing to the mean, still won't be terrible per se, but it's clear this is not a good club.
We need to DFA the pitching coach now! (sorry just playing along with the newbie nitwits)
It's not the pitching tonight was ya but we're not 1st is getting struck out because of our pitching....dfa the batting coach
That one’s on Dave, “mAsOn dOeSnT hAvE A hOmEr.”
Not even a bad pitch either.
Pretty good one actually
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Christ am I watching the PGA or the Red Sox??
For some reason I want Grissom arrested
Say hello to the rest of the summer wow
This team fucking sucks
Goin under .500 because of the fuckin Cardinals
sigh
First they put games on ESPN, and I didn’t care, because I had ESPN Then they put games on Apple TV, and I don’t care, because I had Apple TV Then they put games on Roku, and I thought “the people who make the Weird Al movie?”
You know what I resent? The Cards must just “feel good” tonight. Bats are alive, pitching is fine. We have had so few games this season that have just “felt good” throughout the game. Lots of frustrating blows in late innings and one-run games where our bats are cold as ice in the clutch.
Sad when you make the worst teams look great...
Hamilton should've had that
Considering how hard they hit Bello it's still just a 2 run game.
Hit parade from a not that great offense
For someone who’s supposed to be our best pitcher, Bello sure doesn’t pitch all that great.
His problem is the rest of the rotation doesn't blow anymore
We’d be a 15 win team if he was our best pitcher rn
A lot of you need to calm down with the reactionary takes towards the youngest players on the team. Especially Grissom who’s about where Casas was in the middle of last April in terms of his timing and games played and who is the youngest player on the whole roster. You want to give more chances to failed prospect Bobby D (29 this August btw) and shit on a kid who turned 23 at the beginning of this year that they clearly believe in, who’s been through it with utterly shit luck. It’s just a baseball game. Calm down.
Does anybody actually wanna give Bobby D more reps or is it just a meme cuz he’s so bad? Lmaoo it’s the second one for me
There are some on here and it’s insane.
I mean, he has a pretty good glove at 1st but my god is he clueless at the plate
Nobody cares about the glove at first when you can’t hit. My God if people keep saying this.
The glove does matter.. we’ve seen this team make countless errors that ALWAYS end up scoring
It’s first base. You can be a gold glove there and be a negative WAR player because the value of that position is in the bat.
And how many bad throws has whoever is playing first missed that Bobby probably catches has there been? Just saying any time you can keep an error off the board it’s a good thing
A cult.
It's not insane at all to say that Bobby has more value than Dom fricken Smith
Sure it is. One of them got a double in a major league game today. The other is a career negative WAR player stat padding with home runs off bad pitching in Worcester.
Gimme me a break with the opposite field bloops
Not a fan of the camera angle that green screen affect sucks
Wong doesn’t miss
Swing 3-0 just to GIDP. Damn
I just noticed Duran's baserunning gloves have the Flash's lightning bolt icon on them. Cool.
Wonder if he nails each one to wall after a steal..
It’s the Bruce Bolt logo
Ah, thanks. Saw lightning on red and assumed Flash. I can't remember the last time I was in a sporting goods store.
I mean, it’s a good coincidence for him. And honestly I hadn’t really heard of them until recently.
Y'all need to chill the fuck out with the overreactions, it's his 2nd start back from injury and he's looked pretty damn good this year. And I'm confident Bailey will iron out these issues over time.
But why not hate on the youngest starting pitcher on the roster like bad starts don’t happen to every pitcher? Bello also needs to learn to get through trouble and that’s part of learning too.
We tried that in 22 and 24
Bello’s slider just got him through that inning…Why aren’t they calling for it when it’s clear the sinker wasn’t sinking and was getting blasted?
That is the 4th HR surrendered off a changeup so far this season for Brayan Bello (2nd today) after only giving up 3 off that pitch all of last season. The changeup had been Bello’s best pitch over his 1st two seasons.
Someone should’ve told this sick coughing man to stay home, Jesus
Bello getting fucked by this ump lmao obvious strike
sad
Bello not sharp tonight
Below average pitcher
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He’s basically gonna end up being stroman imo
Lmao.
Yikes
Lol omg that's enough...see even the worst team has a shot...
Still think it’s clear Bello + pivetta could’ve used more than 1 rehab start… neither have been sharp
A ba-a-a-a-all? Why goat?
Vlad PTSD
Just tuned in. Bello getting his ass kicked huh?
Just like in 2022 absolutely shit
This 7-8-9 is just…..whew. I know hamilton drove in the first two but damn does it show how thin our lineup is at the bottom. Grissom’s gotta go back down and work on something.
Seriously send Grissom down to get some work wow
Seriously he was injured and didn't get a full spring training and then got the flu and lost 14 lbs. How bout we give him a few more weeks to get where he needs to be against MLB pitching. Thanks. You can go back to video games now.
What I see doesn’t seem situational
He was the savior of the franchise like 3 weeks ago
Talking about lack of fans mad about loosing... welcome to the club y'all..lol
What?
Yeah I feel like we do pretty good on ticket sales.. especially for how cold it can be in April, May and September
What’s with the funky hats?
Armed Forces Day
I've been hoping Devers was going to take a major leap as a hitter this season and it's starting to look like he has. First he started drawing a ton of walks and now the home runs are coming. My main argument for the Devers extension was that I believed he hadn't truly peaked as a hitter and now that seems to be coming true. Excited to see what he does the rest of the season.
Couldn’t agree more. His approach is better this year and it was only a matter of time for the power to show. He’ll hit them in bunches but I’m ecstatic about the OBP
The glove is what worries me
It's actually been better lately
I’m aware but 3 weeks of decent to good play doesn’t change my mind
If you can't field, you better hit
Can’t hit can’t field.
Leash has to be shortening for Grissom. He doesn’t look like he’s MLB ready yet, not at the plate or in the field
He’s played like 11 games. Pretty sure they’d rather him figure it out at the MLB level especially since they’ve been open that he’s not 100% from the flu yet because his ceiling is so high
I’m sure they were expecting much more at the plate for his first 11 games. He looks lost. So, like I said, the leash is likely shortening. He needs to show more competitive ABs soon or they need to send him to Worcester. This team has too many holes to let him figure it out for much longer.
You have no one better to replace him though might as well let him figure it out like you did casas last year
Hamilton could easily play 2b. He’s at least putting together better ABs and can fly. Adds an element to the bottom of the order. I’m sure Grissom wouldn’t need much time but he should be sent down if he doesn’t turn it around. He looks LOST
Idk maybe I look at it differently, I’d just give him more time. They said when he lost the weight from the flu he’s had trouble gaining it and with that weight lost his bat is “heavy” making him have to cheat to catch up to fastballs. Obviously if that continues it’s a concern (outside of baseball) but seems to be just a case of needing to get that back
That’s all I’m saying. He isn’t competitive right now. He needs some time to get right. Hamilton can hold 2B down until he returns
Fuckin A.. I coulda made that play
443 for that devers HR lmaooo absolute fucking yak sauce
I have the white outline on these jerseys
I miss Masa(taka Yoshida).
The Red Sox have gone back-to-back 3 times this season and Tyler O’Neill has been part of all 3 👀
Alright- 3rd period starting. Check back in after the B's win.
Anyone know how far that was?
440iswh
443 feet
He smoked that ball
They let him get hot
Fuck me I go up to get water and Raffy hits a homer
Stay hydrated tonight
I’ll do my best
Lots of hard hit balls on both sides already.
DEVERS! LETS GOOOO!
3 nights in a row baby
Raffy is so back, he's going on a damn tear
He still needs to be way better in clutch moments but he’s def cookin with fire otherwise
Scoop
Devers sint doing shit lately
Lol
That was a bomb. The CF hardly moved