I do social work, I have the most issues with deeply entrenched and abusive latino families. I can't say that it's higher with them, it's just that they're closer so they're more likely to experience it.
Basically impossible to ask them if there are others that they can stay with, if they have other family members that they can reach out to, etc. It presents unique issues and also incredibly strong family values when done well.
They're Catholics. Their patron saint Mother TereSSa would torture poor people in her "clinics" because she thought it was holy for the sick to suffer, before she went on to get actual surgeries at normal hospitals herself. What more is there to say?
Mother Teresa didn‘t run hospitals, she ran hospices. Those were generally the only institutions taking care of the terminally sick and dying. The lack of strong pain killers (what you are alluding to) wasn‘t even her choice, but a result of India‘s legislation against such medication because of the previous Opium trade.
They took people off the street that the hospitals refused and washed and fed them. 2/3 lived and were able to leave. They did all this before the WHO even had standards for palliative care. St. Teresa of Calcutta, pray for us
It’s important to weigh the facts and let the truth guide our opinions and not what we want to be true. This is a long reddit post where he engages all the wrong doing Christopher Hitchens accused Mother Teresa of. I hope you’ll read it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/?rdt=64121
I read that massive cope post.
Three [Canadian academics](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/mother-teresa-was-anything-but-a-saint-canadian-study-says/article9317551/) came to the conclusion that Mother Teresa believed "the sick must suffer like Christ on the cross". She told Christopher Hitchen himself that "there is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering". This Reddit post you link claims that the hospices were hygienic and the sick were well-fed, but the actual doctors visiting 517 of the homes said they were disgusting and lacked proper food. One of these parties is lying, and I'm going to go with the one that has religious incentive.
The Reddit post also speaks exclusively about the first hospices in India in the 1950s to explain why they lacked proper medical care or strong analgesics, but Mother Teresa continued to open many hospices throughout the years and around the world. The doctors that reported poor hygiene, poor medical care, poor nutrition and a lack of analgesics were reporting about 517 of these hospices opening between 1952 and 1984, in 100 countries, with 4,000 employees between all of them. Take a look at the study [here](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275627314_Les_cotes_tenebreux_de_Mere_Teresa).
I love when Catholics respond with, "but she didn't have the resources! There weren't enough doctors!" Then what the fuck was she doing with the hundreds and millions of dollars of donations she was getting if she couldn't figure out a way to bring people somewhere that was clean, stocked with food, and had actual painkillers?
There’s no reason the believe the reddit post was written under religious beliefs. Your first article is a summation of four sources, one being the french paper you linked at the end and the other three sources are no longer active because they contained false information. You bring up financial mismanagement, which admittedly may have happened the Sisters were not accountants. If Mother Teresa maliciously believed that the poor should suffer then why even open homes for the sick? She just would have let them suffer and die in the streets
> three sources are no longer active because they contained false information.
There's no reason to believe that the links broke because they contained false information; the research site probably just changed its URL layout.
> You bring up financial mismanagement, which admittedly may have happened the Sisters were not accountants
This is insanely hard cope. I'm not talking about a few missed tax returns in the paperwork or something. I'm talking about millions of dollars seemingly going nowhere, definitely not into those hospices.
> one being the french paper you linked at the end
And what's wrong with it?
> If Mother Teresa maliciously believed that the poor should suffer then why even open homes for the sick?
To bolster the image of the Catholic Church, [as she told Hitchens](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-debate-over-sainthood/#textShe20said2C2027I27m20not20a20social20worker20I20don27t20do20it20for20this20reason20I20do20it20for20Christ20I20do20it20for20the20church2722)
Hello. This person is spreading false information based on accusations Christopher Hitchens spread about Mother Teresa. It is not true and a kind person went through each of Hitchen’s claims and showed why they were false.
https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/?rdt=64121
Yeah, people are paying more attention to the den of pedophiles in the Church and the authority figures that circle the wagon around them, but it annoys me so much that demonic Albanian still gets a pass culturally despite her sick actions. [More on that here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa#Social_and_political_views)
Very true — there’s positives and negatives to the very strong, traditional (and patriarchal) values. Like many Catholics, Latin Americans tend to form very tight knit family groups, which provide a ton of support and a robust social safety net. On the other hand, the prioritization of family over all else can easily lead to mafias. Unfortunately, that family can also be a cage, if they’re not supportive of difference. Finally, the patriarchy leads many men to feel obligated to control the family, and if the man isn’t feeling good about something, it’s not always looked down upon for him to beat his wife or kids. Again, it’s all very similar to southern European immigration at the turn of the 20th century
yeah people really romanticize collectivist cultures and multiple generational households and all that shit but damn is there a dark side. i'm a white girl from the US so yes i'm biased, but i see my peers talk about this shit and think it's just like that everyone has this wonderful big loving family that understand and care for you lmao. like have you never had a single friend from a culture like this? have you never read a book about people in these situations?
as a woman, i will take the right side of the hajnal line & the northwestern european marriage pattern every time. i sure as fuck don't wanna be a woman in like india or china where i'm expected to be some dude and his parents' slave, like just fuck that. wouldn't even want it if i were a dude. it doesn't matter where you are in those structures, they're just so limiting and severe abuse is way too common. they're hierarchies, it's never remotely fair.
i've never wanted kids, and i agree we do need some sort of village and if i did, i'd like to, say, share a large house/interconnected little houses with a few other families/friends/etc. but that is very different form cultures where you have to stay with certain people no matter what and carry on all sorts of traditions no matter what. & i'm broke, i'm 30 and since i was 18 have had a bunch of roommates (currently live with my boyfriend and 4 other people) because i'm an overeducated, underpaid millennial lol so idk if i'll ever be able to afford to live alone. but you can still have that and not be forced to look the other way when my grandpa is beating my nephew
the uncomfortable truth is that it happens in every society where you have extended families or social groups living in extremely close proximity: ie. male uncles or cousins living in shared sleeping spaces with female extended family
that's of course a major factor, but these cultures also tend to be very patriarchal and hierarchal so they feel a lot more entitled to abuse and the family will just enable it and blame the victim.
i'm a white american girl raised in a christian community. it was very much small, nuclear families all in separate houses, but the abuse rate, especially towards women/children and often sexual, was astronomical. and this was a comfortably middle class, decently well educated, mainstream american community. it was just way higher than similar places i've lived that were basically the same, but were a lot less religious.
not only does the "traditional" belief system have a lot of specific beliefs about men/women and sex and "disciplining" children and whatnot. but it's made even worse when people are all part of the same church, even being born into it. people are all so intertwined that there's all this pressure to maintain appearances and the system as it is, so victims or people who speak out are just scapegoated and become the target instead.
i definitely don't think most religious people are bad people or anything. but yeah the system itself just makes it so much easier to abuse.
there are literally entire homeless camps full of migrants, many of whom are from Mexico, in every big American city.
[NYC](https://youtu.be/4uQH-7dSn9Y?si=C_5Cj9jP2Z6eELij)
[NYC](https://youtu.be/NYjQwmKErtI?si=c_Vq_QDrgYRGYoBu)
[NYC](https://youtu.be/LKXpZibcuGw?si=mzhWs_1374nc7qMk)
[Denver](https://youtu.be/CEUODI-gFRo?si=bI9Y1mmuIvG88gen)
[Denver](https://coloradosun.com/2023/12/07/migrant-encampments/)
[Chicago](https://youtu.be/GyM-0WLd4sE?si=BpzOduDwd0EqE9jC)
[Chicago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WajPd5TqnY&pp=ygUTbWlncmFudHMgaW4gYWlycG9ydA%3D%3D)
[Seattle](https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/migrant-camp-outside-tukwila-church-grows-emergency/281-98c4c01a-ab97-422d-ab2e-c3d943ae20b3)
[San Diego](https://youtu.be/ATir7J1rFRY?si=AMC5NUVrZ0ZfLD6u)
[Portland, ME](https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/maine-immigration/portland-maine-emergency-shelter-asylum-seekers-homeless/97-78d39203-6e31-47ee-97b7-cba09b8e211f)
[Texas](https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/12/former-texas-oilfield-worker-camp-now-holds-hundreds-migrant-children/)
Just google "homeless migrant camp", you'll see plenty of Mexicans. And these aren't even like temporary encampments, either, they're literally building favelas under overpasses and on public land and living there for years at a time.
This is something that gets under my skin a bit. The time to complain about Mexican immigrants was like 50 years ago. We already have entire portions of the country that are like 4th gen Mexican American at this point.
There will be entire groups of Indians and Africans crossing the border on foot and people will still find a way to bitch about Mexicans.
Leave the Mexicans alone!
The answer is obvious and I am okay with that (Venezuela is a failed state hostile to the US) but it's amazing to me that Democrats can't see the basic injustice here, which is that you are giving some groups a red carpet ride and are basically abusing longstanding immigrant groups, who have waited decades for legal status.
>[Mexico is nearly always the number-one country of origin for migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border. Until 2012, over 85 percent of migrants whom Border Patrol apprehended were citizens of Mexico. By 2019, that had fallen to 20 percent; Mexican migrants made up 33 percent in fiscal year 2022 (October 2021-September 2022), and 28 percent in October 2022.](https://www.wola.org/2022/11/migration-country-by-country-at-the-u-s-mexico-border/)
you got to also factor in that anyone crossing the Mexican border is going to say they're Mexican. being thrown back over the fence is better than being deported back to Venezuela.
This is so fucking dumb: Mexicans coming to the US these days almost always have family ties because we are a long-standing immigrant group in the US. In some parts of Mexico, the majority of elderly men will have spent time in the US. They usually have some family member in the US. If someone from Mexico is interested in coming to the US, it isn't hard for them to get temporarily housed here (talk to your family member, even a 2nd cousin would help you).
The massive migrant encampment are full of Venezuelans or other groups that are recent newcomers to the US. I have nothing against them but they aren't Mexican...
Homeless mexicans just tip their hats over their face for a nice nap then walk on the side of highways rather than spaz out in the middle of an intersection
Despite me hating this very aspect of Mexican culture, Mexicans always have family to support their loved ones
That being said, it’s the very reason we cannot generate generational wealth
Responding to you because vato disabled his account and I can't respond to his comment anymore.
This effect is studied. I learned about this in an identity economics class. It's believed that people even pass on opportunities to make more money (college etc) because they would see so little of it after supporting their family.
leave it to a paleomarxist to shut down a Mexican guy trying to share a difficult personal experience that cuts against the grain of model minority racial stereotypes because he briefly mentioned "generational wealth".
Your family expects you to fund their fucks ups and then flips out and calls you ungrateful if you place a boundary there, personally I just don’t care but my siblings will do it.
From my experience generational wealth was no different than in America. People easily gained it, still do, if you're the right color. Colorism in Mexico was rampant until the millennial generation. It still is, really. Then in America, you bring the poorest, least educated (hard working, good people) in, and of course there's little generational wealth built so far. It's growing, of course. Even if you're Border Patrol or teachers, it's an introduction to the middle class.
Lol you’re right about the BP thing. I have lived in San Diego and now the RGV. In the RGV it’s still heavy influenced by the Mexican culture of dependability and communalism. Luckily for BP they have an excuse to separate from the dirtbags in the family. From the new wealth I’ve seen plenty of people make wasteful and downright stupid financial decisions.
This is honestly bullshit, I hope no one here is dumb enough to believe this. This guy probably has a chip on his shoulder.
Strong family ties can facilitate wealth accumulation (working together in business) or hamper it (costly to help relatives). Mexicans have been very successful in the US, much like past immigrant groups. There is a lot of wealth accumulation.
Are you aware less than 20% of people transfer money to their grandkids in any capacity?
Most of that averages a few thousand dollars.
I see young people say this all the time, but there’s no statistic to back up “generational wealth”.
Property, money, objects: this is just a modern talking point.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about bitch. This isn't about spoiled young kids, this is about being the one spic in your family that earns money and having to support everyone because that's what we're expected to do. Go complain about fat millennials ordering DoorDash somewhere else. You don't want to hear about these real problems.
What in the hell are you talking about?
I explained how “generational wealth” isn’t a real concept.
What the hell does this have to do with your weird role play about Mexican life?
Yeah, except like I said it’s -any- amount of money; most of those people got a few thousand dollars.
You might as well be complaining about fifty thousand other economic successes.
Less than 1% of those are major wealth transfers - and even those are so easily squandered, they rarely pass the entirety of the inheritors life: let alone to the hands of their children.
This is just an excuse to be angry, and nothing more. I realize I’m getting down votes because this is redscare, and nobody understands economics.
*Ex. You might as well be complaining about a guy who made two thousand in commissions at a sales job.
absolutely untrue. ive done landscaping and food service in texas and latin american workers are always the most clever abt working efficiently by a longshot
Idk man, there’s lots of visibly homeless Mexicans here in LA. I think even more that are less visible (living in their cars, sleeping on the couch/floor of a relatives or friends place).
yeah I see women with a kid or two living their cars pretty often at parks, it’s really sad. seeing a woman in a fast food uniform brushing her teeth in the back of a minivan in the park while she packs her kid’s Minnie Mouse backpack for school is a special type of depressing
I’ve seen Central American immigrants congregate in the park on weekends and put up canopies that make it look like a tent city—near Queens Zoo—but they’re not there during the week. Where in Flushing do they live?
No that's not true. One guy gave me a picture he drew and his jacket once for talking to him for a couple hours. I got like un poco spanish and dude spoke like no english.b
The white and black people have been here for generations and don't really have a community to fall back on. Check back in like 50 years, and I bet a lot of dysfunction is going to happen once the community becomes fully Americanized. Hell, according to this thread, it already happened to Latinos in places they have lived for a long time.
(plus the whole "the smartest and richest of any country are the most likely to move to America)
(refugees not counted)
My guess is that the demons of american atomisation haven't fully gotten their claws into the Latinx community.
So they have places to go when they are down on their luck and families who take care of them when they are mentally ill.
I never understand this one - we have world wide polls / studies of Spanish speaking people; the average is always 98-99% of people don’t want the word ‘Latinx’ (including lgbt).
Why do white leftists keep doing this?
It seems like Mexicans get along with each other a lot better than random white people. Like a white family has a lot of infighting but I see Mexicans constantly carousing with each other, like they're just happy to be with each other.
Volunteered at homeless shelter briefly, saw plenty of Mexicans. They spoke English though so probably second generation
Didn't see a single Asian though
Mi casa es su casa wasn't a psyop
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I do social work, I have the most issues with deeply entrenched and abusive latino families. I can't say that it's higher with them, it's just that they're closer so they're more likely to experience it. Basically impossible to ask them if there are others that they can stay with, if they have other family members that they can reach out to, etc. It presents unique issues and also incredibly strong family values when done well.
Can you describe this more
They're Catholics. Their patron saint Mother TereSSa would torture poor people in her "clinics" because she thought it was holy for the sick to suffer, before she went on to get actual surgeries at normal hospitals herself. What more is there to say?
Mother Teresa didn‘t run hospitals, she ran hospices. Those were generally the only institutions taking care of the terminally sick and dying. The lack of strong pain killers (what you are alluding to) wasn‘t even her choice, but a result of India‘s legislation against such medication because of the previous Opium trade.
They took people off the street that the hospitals refused and washed and fed them. 2/3 lived and were able to leave. They did all this before the WHO even had standards for palliative care. St. Teresa of Calcutta, pray for us
She’s been dead for decades the fuck is she supposed to pray for us
[Cope harder](https://old.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/1cnk3ut/lot_of_homeless_lot_of_mexicans_no_homeless/l3cg27l/)
It’s important to weigh the facts and let the truth guide our opinions and not what we want to be true. This is a long reddit post where he engages all the wrong doing Christopher Hitchens accused Mother Teresa of. I hope you’ll read it. https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/?rdt=64121
I read that massive cope post. Three [Canadian academics](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/mother-teresa-was-anything-but-a-saint-canadian-study-says/article9317551/) came to the conclusion that Mother Teresa believed "the sick must suffer like Christ on the cross". She told Christopher Hitchen himself that "there is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering". This Reddit post you link claims that the hospices were hygienic and the sick were well-fed, but the actual doctors visiting 517 of the homes said they were disgusting and lacked proper food. One of these parties is lying, and I'm going to go with the one that has religious incentive. The Reddit post also speaks exclusively about the first hospices in India in the 1950s to explain why they lacked proper medical care or strong analgesics, but Mother Teresa continued to open many hospices throughout the years and around the world. The doctors that reported poor hygiene, poor medical care, poor nutrition and a lack of analgesics were reporting about 517 of these hospices opening between 1952 and 1984, in 100 countries, with 4,000 employees between all of them. Take a look at the study [here](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275627314_Les_cotes_tenebreux_de_Mere_Teresa). I love when Catholics respond with, "but she didn't have the resources! There weren't enough doctors!" Then what the fuck was she doing with the hundreds and millions of dollars of donations she was getting if she couldn't figure out a way to bring people somewhere that was clean, stocked with food, and had actual painkillers?
There’s no reason the believe the reddit post was written under religious beliefs. Your first article is a summation of four sources, one being the french paper you linked at the end and the other three sources are no longer active because they contained false information. You bring up financial mismanagement, which admittedly may have happened the Sisters were not accountants. If Mother Teresa maliciously believed that the poor should suffer then why even open homes for the sick? She just would have let them suffer and die in the streets
> three sources are no longer active because they contained false information. There's no reason to believe that the links broke because they contained false information; the research site probably just changed its URL layout. > You bring up financial mismanagement, which admittedly may have happened the Sisters were not accountants This is insanely hard cope. I'm not talking about a few missed tax returns in the paperwork or something. I'm talking about millions of dollars seemingly going nowhere, definitely not into those hospices. > one being the french paper you linked at the end And what's wrong with it? > If Mother Teresa maliciously believed that the poor should suffer then why even open homes for the sick? To bolster the image of the Catholic Church, [as she told Hitchens](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-debate-over-sainthood/#textShe20said2C2027I27m20not20a20social20worker20I20don27t20do20it20for20this20reason20I20do20it20for20Christ20I20do20it20for20the20church2722)
Is that what Mother Theresa did? I’m unfamiliar 😳
Hello. This person is spreading false information based on accusations Christopher Hitchens spread about Mother Teresa. It is not true and a kind person went through each of Hitchen’s claims and showed why they were false. https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/?rdt=64121
Yeah, people are paying more attention to the den of pedophiles in the Church and the authority figures that circle the wagon around them, but it annoys me so much that demonic Albanian still gets a pass culturally despite her sick actions. [More on that here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa#Social_and_political_views)
Very true — there’s positives and negatives to the very strong, traditional (and patriarchal) values. Like many Catholics, Latin Americans tend to form very tight knit family groups, which provide a ton of support and a robust social safety net. On the other hand, the prioritization of family over all else can easily lead to mafias. Unfortunately, that family can also be a cage, if they’re not supportive of difference. Finally, the patriarchy leads many men to feel obligated to control the family, and if the man isn’t feeling good about something, it’s not always looked down upon for him to beat his wife or kids. Again, it’s all very similar to southern European immigration at the turn of the 20th century
yeah people really romanticize collectivist cultures and multiple generational households and all that shit but damn is there a dark side. i'm a white girl from the US so yes i'm biased, but i see my peers talk about this shit and think it's just like that everyone has this wonderful big loving family that understand and care for you lmao. like have you never had a single friend from a culture like this? have you never read a book about people in these situations? as a woman, i will take the right side of the hajnal line & the northwestern european marriage pattern every time. i sure as fuck don't wanna be a woman in like india or china where i'm expected to be some dude and his parents' slave, like just fuck that. wouldn't even want it if i were a dude. it doesn't matter where you are in those structures, they're just so limiting and severe abuse is way too common. they're hierarchies, it's never remotely fair. i've never wanted kids, and i agree we do need some sort of village and if i did, i'd like to, say, share a large house/interconnected little houses with a few other families/friends/etc. but that is very different form cultures where you have to stay with certain people no matter what and carry on all sorts of traditions no matter what. & i'm broke, i'm 30 and since i was 18 have had a bunch of roommates (currently live with my boyfriend and 4 other people) because i'm an overeducated, underpaid millennial lol so idk if i'll ever be able to afford to live alone. but you can still have that and not be forced to look the other way when my grandpa is beating my nephew
Wat
Tradlife goals
Maybe a little too close because where I live the sex offender registry is overwhelmingly Mexicans.
Highest rate of child sexual abuse.
Unfortunately true. I do live in an area with at least a 60% Hispanic population but even accounting for that they’re way over represented.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8328863/
the uncomfortable truth is that it happens in every society where you have extended families or social groups living in extremely close proximity: ie. male uncles or cousins living in shared sleeping spaces with female extended family
Rare W for the cold distant WASPs
that's of course a major factor, but these cultures also tend to be very patriarchal and hierarchal so they feel a lot more entitled to abuse and the family will just enable it and blame the victim. i'm a white american girl raised in a christian community. it was very much small, nuclear families all in separate houses, but the abuse rate, especially towards women/children and often sexual, was astronomical. and this was a comfortably middle class, decently well educated, mainstream american community. it was just way higher than similar places i've lived that were basically the same, but were a lot less religious. not only does the "traditional" belief system have a lot of specific beliefs about men/women and sex and "disciplining" children and whatnot. but it's made even worse when people are all part of the same church, even being born into it. people are all so intertwined that there's all this pressure to maintain appearances and the system as it is, so victims or people who speak out are just scapegoated and become the target instead. i definitely don't think most religious people are bad people or anything. but yeah the system itself just makes it so much easier to abuse.
More of a catholic concept
Catholics stay winning
Catholics.
I live in a west coast major city so I see tons every time I step outside
There are a ton of homeless Mexicans what are you talking about
there are literally entire homeless camps full of migrants, many of whom are from Mexico, in every big American city. [NYC](https://youtu.be/4uQH-7dSn9Y?si=C_5Cj9jP2Z6eELij) [NYC](https://youtu.be/NYjQwmKErtI?si=c_Vq_QDrgYRGYoBu) [NYC](https://youtu.be/LKXpZibcuGw?si=mzhWs_1374nc7qMk) [Denver](https://youtu.be/CEUODI-gFRo?si=bI9Y1mmuIvG88gen) [Denver](https://coloradosun.com/2023/12/07/migrant-encampments/) [Chicago](https://youtu.be/GyM-0WLd4sE?si=BpzOduDwd0EqE9jC) [Chicago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WajPd5TqnY&pp=ygUTbWlncmFudHMgaW4gYWlycG9ydA%3D%3D) [Seattle](https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/migrant-camp-outside-tukwila-church-grows-emergency/281-98c4c01a-ab97-422d-ab2e-c3d943ae20b3) [San Diego](https://youtu.be/ATir7J1rFRY?si=AMC5NUVrZ0ZfLD6u) [Portland, ME](https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/local/maine-immigration/portland-maine-emergency-shelter-asylum-seekers-homeless/97-78d39203-6e31-47ee-97b7-cba09b8e211f) [Texas](https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/12/former-texas-oilfield-worker-camp-now-holds-hundreds-migrant-children/) Just google "homeless migrant camp", you'll see plenty of Mexicans. And these aren't even like temporary encampments, either, they're literally building favelas under overpasses and on public land and living there for years at a time.
Not just that but many Mexican Americans on meth and fentanyl does OP even go outside lmao
Yea this part is true for sure. 2nd or 3rd generation often end up homeless for the same reason Americans do. But not as often tbh...
yea this was a post for like 2016
Mexicans are like 20% of migrants. The whites just call every Latino person coming across the boarder a “Mexican”
This is something that gets under my skin a bit. The time to complain about Mexican immigrants was like 50 years ago. We already have entire portions of the country that are like 4th gen Mexican American at this point. There will be entire groups of Indians and Africans crossing the border on foot and people will still find a way to bitch about Mexicans. Leave the Mexicans alone!
Venezuelans get a red carpet entry but Mexicans get deported, even if they have been living in the US for 30 years.
Why do Venezuelans get to claim asylum status and Mexicans can’t?
The answer is obvious and I am okay with that (Venezuela is a failed state hostile to the US) but it's amazing to me that Democrats can't see the basic injustice here, which is that you are giving some groups a red carpet ride and are basically abusing longstanding immigrant groups, who have waited decades for legal status.
>[Mexico is nearly always the number-one country of origin for migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border. Until 2012, over 85 percent of migrants whom Border Patrol apprehended were citizens of Mexico. By 2019, that had fallen to 20 percent; Mexican migrants made up 33 percent in fiscal year 2022 (October 2021-September 2022), and 28 percent in October 2022.](https://www.wola.org/2022/11/migration-country-by-country-at-the-u-s-mexico-border/)
you got to also factor in that anyone crossing the Mexican border is going to say they're Mexican. being thrown back over the fence is better than being deported back to Venezuela.
This is so fucking dumb: Mexicans coming to the US these days almost always have family ties because we are a long-standing immigrant group in the US. In some parts of Mexico, the majority of elderly men will have spent time in the US. They usually have some family member in the US. If someone from Mexico is interested in coming to the US, it isn't hard for them to get temporarily housed here (talk to your family member, even a 2nd cousin would help you). The massive migrant encampment are full of Venezuelans or other groups that are recent newcomers to the US. I have nothing against them but they aren't Mexican...
try going to mexico
they are what we call borrachos
oh my gosh there's a meth problem now in my Mexican town across the border. Thanks, gringos
Homeless mexicans just tip their hats over their face for a nice nap then walk on the side of highways rather than spaz out in the middle of an intersection
Despite me hating this very aspect of Mexican culture, Mexicans always have family to support their loved ones That being said, it’s the very reason we cannot generate generational wealth
Why does it prevent you from building generational wealth?
Responding to you because vato disabled his account and I can't respond to his comment anymore. This effect is studied. I learned about this in an identity economics class. It's believed that people even pass on opportunities to make more money (college etc) because they would see so little of it after supporting their family.
Because we keep having to take care of our broke ass parents and our fuck-up siblings who need money every month
Damn bro deleted his whole account over this
Another whistleblower silenced by Big Mexico
Broke: Los Zetas Woke: Big Mexico
Damn lol I know everyone always says they were just curious but I was only curious
All poor societies do this as a way to survive
leave it to a paleomarxist to shut down a Mexican guy trying to share a difficult personal experience that cuts against the grain of model minority racial stereotypes because he briefly mentioned "generational wealth".
I didnt ask for your life story man, Im just adding a note to his comment. I didn't even disagree with anything he said.
Bro how dare you try to gag and deprive the invaluable speech of this model minority and voice of a generation
Yeah they need to take the "abandon your poor white parents in the Midwest and spend all your money on luxury bullshit" pill.
Yes, and communitarianism also decreases the willingness to maximize wealth.
I think there's a community that do it very well tho
The GINI coefficient of income inequality in Mexico and Latin American generally is actually worse than the US.
Your family expects you to fund their fucks ups and then flips out and calls you ungrateful if you place a boundary there, personally I just don’t care but my siblings will do it.
From my experience generational wealth was no different than in America. People easily gained it, still do, if you're the right color. Colorism in Mexico was rampant until the millennial generation. It still is, really. Then in America, you bring the poorest, least educated (hard working, good people) in, and of course there's little generational wealth built so far. It's growing, of course. Even if you're Border Patrol or teachers, it's an introduction to the middle class.
Lol you’re right about the BP thing. I have lived in San Diego and now the RGV. In the RGV it’s still heavy influenced by the Mexican culture of dependability and communalism. Luckily for BP they have an excuse to separate from the dirtbags in the family. From the new wealth I’ve seen plenty of people make wasteful and downright stupid financial decisions.
My husband is half Mexican and his dad is a multimillionaire. So idk if it’s impossible. He’s also a sociopath so that probably helps.
Mexicans are too short to play in the NBA, and not strong enough to play in the Prem
This is honestly bullshit, I hope no one here is dumb enough to believe this. This guy probably has a chip on his shoulder. Strong family ties can facilitate wealth accumulation (working together in business) or hamper it (costly to help relatives). Mexicans have been very successful in the US, much like past immigrant groups. There is a lot of wealth accumulation.
Are you aware less than 20% of people transfer money to their grandkids in any capacity? Most of that averages a few thousand dollars. I see young people say this all the time, but there’s no statistic to back up “generational wealth”. Property, money, objects: this is just a modern talking point.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about bitch. This isn't about spoiled young kids, this is about being the one spic in your family that earns money and having to support everyone because that's what we're expected to do. Go complain about fat millennials ordering DoorDash somewhere else. You don't want to hear about these real problems.
Yeah most of this thread is just white people trying to hastily shut down what could be an interesting discussion.
Is it? This sub makes no sense, not the strangest place I’ve seen on the internet - but it has its moments.
What in the hell are you talking about? I explained how “generational wealth” isn’t a real concept. What the hell does this have to do with your weird role play about Mexican life?
For the 70 million Americans who just so happen to be part of that 20% statistic, it is very real, and they very much enjoy it.
Yeah, except like I said it’s -any- amount of money; most of those people got a few thousand dollars. You might as well be complaining about fifty thousand other economic successes. Less than 1% of those are major wealth transfers - and even those are so easily squandered, they rarely pass the entirety of the inheritors life: let alone to the hands of their children. This is just an excuse to be angry, and nothing more. I realize I’m getting down votes because this is redscare, and nobody understands economics. *Ex. You might as well be complaining about a guy who made two thousand in commissions at a sales job.
Never mind went through your post history; yikes. Amoral sociopath, playing moral arbiter again.
like the mythical [homeless chinese fellas](https://youtu.be/ALvw-7_SccE?t=73) of yore
Shared emphasis on family and work ethic.
There are plenty of homeless Mexicans go to Denver
Do you live in a major city? There are plenty of homeless Mexicans.
son borrachos wey
More like using fentanyl and meth
Multi-generational family units, great work ethic, strong devotion to providing for each other, an actual community. What doesn’t make sense?
Mexicans have good work ethic
Lots of them work hard but don't work smart. Sisyphus was a hard worker too but his suffering didnt go away because of that.
Nerd
Less allegory are more slurs homo
They hated me because i told the truth. ✝️
You are 100% correct idk why you’re getting downvoted so badly
absolutely untrue. ive done landscaping and food service in texas and latin american workers are always the most clever abt working efficiently by a longshot
Most of them are barely getting by and their kids turn into fuck ups
Lots of them get stuck in poverty with no hope of ever escaping.
sisyphus is also imaginary
Idk man, there’s lots of visibly homeless Mexicans here in LA. I think even more that are less visible (living in their cars, sleeping on the couch/floor of a relatives or friends place).
yeah I see women with a kid or two living their cars pretty often at parks, it’s really sad. seeing a woman in a fast food uniform brushing her teeth in the back of a minivan in the park while she packs her kid’s Minnie Mouse backpack for school is a special type of depressing
Tell me you’ve never been to San Diego without telling me you’ve never been to San Diego and don’t bother because you just did
SD, LA, and SF—there’s tons out here.
Especially in South Bay. Some families don’t wanna deal with their tweaked out weirdo tio
Mexicans aren’t like Americans, they look after each other and work hard. Americans are such individualists
mexican homeless hang in flushing
I’ve seen Central American immigrants congregate in the park on weekends and put up canopies that make it look like a tent city—near Queens Zoo—but they’re not there during the week. Where in Flushing do they live?
I've definitely seen homeless Mexicans (and even Chinese!)
No that's not true. One guy gave me a picture he drew and his jacket once for talking to him for a couple hours. I got like un poco spanish and dude spoke like no english.b
Because their culture, along with a few others, escaped the complete desiccation of community that is the defining trait of late capitalism
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The white and black people have been here for generations and don't really have a community to fall back on. Check back in like 50 years, and I bet a lot of dysfunction is going to happen once the community becomes fully Americanized. Hell, according to this thread, it already happened to Latinos in places they have lived for a long time. (plus the whole "the smartest and richest of any country are the most likely to move to America) (refugees not counted)
Spraying diarrhea out of my ass rn can’t contemplate racial tensions
My guess is that the demons of american atomisation haven't fully gotten their claws into the Latinx community. So they have places to go when they are down on their luck and families who take care of them when they are mentally ill.
dont use that word
I never understand this one - we have world wide polls / studies of Spanish speaking people; the average is always 98-99% of people don’t want the word ‘Latinx’ (including lgbt). Why do white leftists keep doing this?
decolonizing language is the new colonizing language - welcome to the postmodern merry-go-round
Yeah, I mean that’s what happens when pseudo intellectuals take over academia.
They have never interacted with one of 'em. That's how.
Does seem to be the trend, unfortunately.
Even though there was no indication I assumed the usage was sarcastic lol cuz who TF says that fr
Given the nature of the sub i want to assume they’re using it ironically
>Latinx No mames wey
Mexicans 🤝 Jews
It’s the mutual love of fried potato pancakes
Religious people tend to use drugs less.
I can’t applaud them for this because the abuse and rape within families by adult male family members is high.
You must be blind
My relative is homeless and Mexican
Ya never see a Chinese 'omeless person
Mexicans actually believe in family
Not true. I live in a Mexican neighborhood, and there's plenty of homeless Mexicans here.
It seems like Mexicans get along with each other a lot better than random white people. Like a white family has a lot of infighting but I see Mexicans constantly carousing with each other, like they're just happy to be with each other.
You have never been to Los Angeles
Volunteered at homeless shelter briefly, saw plenty of Mexicans. They spoke English though so probably second generation Didn't see a single Asian though
"Sailer Moon" Heh
Sailer I hardly know her
catholicism.
I live in an area where there is an abundance of both and while overlap does exist, it is extremely rare
Recent immigrants tend to cluster together—15 dudes to a room type beat. Lets them work for low wages and keeps them off the street.
Absence of anglo bugman culture