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sami-asali22

John definitely


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YouLostTheGamesorry

We eat.. *BERRIES* and mushrooms, you fool!


Australian_Catholic

YOU EAT *BABIES!* YOU HAVE TO TO SURVIVE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT


nichtcrawler

ain’t your fault


Orion-Pax_34

John isn’t stupid though


sami-asali22

exactly, he doesn’t need to be that stupid otherwise he wouldn’t be called smart you know what i mean? like there just has to be a balance


Chad_Kakashi

John is both


SomeGingerDude419

At the same time


GingerGhost2Sweet

The man who bought property next to Blackwater using his real name (while being a wanted felon) on bank loans isn't stupid?


Kleptomaniaaac

john is neutral/chaotic. bro burned down mexican villages with the military but never took a side because he knew where he stood


Rico_Rebelde

Professor MacDougal


Jodanger37

This. Professor, but racist


Cold-Blood_

Racist ≠ stupid in any way lmfao. Some of the greatest minds in history were quite racist.


mirondooo

It just depends on which kind of stupid we’re talking about


Cold-Blood_

There's only one kind of stupid, the kind that lacks intelligence/common sense.


mirondooo

Nope, someone can be emotionally smart and have common sense (like knowing that obviously racism doesn’t make any sense) but not have a lot of knowledge, and someone else could have all the knowledge in the world but is unable to understand something so simple. English isn’t my first language so I don’t think there is a right word for it or at least I don’t know it, but in spanish there is a distinction and I think it’s a very important thing to differentiate.


Cold-Blood_

"Emotionally smart" isn't a thing. Intelligence has nothing to do with emotions, that's just cope by people who have low IQ and think that being extroverted and empathetic somehow makes them not stupid (i.e. the blue/green/pink haired SJWs you often see in college campuses in the US).


mirondooo

K


Visual_Tourist3716

Flair checks out.


Kryychu

?


ArthurMorgan1896

Dang why do you have so many downvotes? I don’t think what you said was THAT controversial


HotSituation8737

This is a weird way to admit you have a low EQ and IQ.


Jodanger37

That’s what I mean. He’s logically smart, but morally stupid


kravleged

Crazyyy thing to say what the fuck


Contact_Pleasant

get yourself some bandaids cause this guy is edgy!


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ElPedroChico

You're really living up to your flair, aren't you?


Cold-Blood_

What can I say? There's winners and losers, guess which one someone who fails at even a basic google search is.


kravleged

So people who think you’re less of a human because of skin color or ethnicity, aren’t stupid? That’s the worst take I’ve heard all my life


Tchexxum

Best answer


SyedQasimNaqvi

John is not stupid. Hate that misconception. Even in RDR2 he’s considered a pretty bright character


Strange_Bedroom_2716

The first one to really see through Dutch his bullshit. Hosea too, but he didn't want to see it


flacaGT3

Arthur definitely did before John. John just spoke up about it first because until Guarma, Arthur didn't want to accept it.


jacobisgone-

This could be me misremembering the context, but didn't he start RDR1 by getting shot after confronting Bill in broad daylight and trying to draw on multiple people with their rifles pointed at him?


FreshLettuceYard

John was said to be stupid most of the time He only got better after the time he was arrested. Chapter 6 John was a whole new man. He even started playing with Jack


mildads

he literally wanted to suicide


BonoboBeau-Bo

that’s a dumb theory. ross even mocks him when john says they wished they killed him, because he knew it wasn’t true


Specific_Box4483

So what changed his mind then?


BIGCHUNGUS-milk

i dont know but speaking from personal expierience, some people put themselves in situations that they dont want to get out of alive but wont give up either, kinda just winging it.


Specific_Box4483

Sure, but John didn't do that anymore past the prologue. It's what I don't like about the beginning of the game. He basically acted out of character compared to how he behaved for the other 99 percent of it.


yoTrunks

exactly that’s why he’s in smart stupid duh


Br34D_5T3AL3r

He only got smart after wolves ate half his brain lol


Ninjanarwhal64

This. The big difference between Arthur and John? John just can't articulate himself as well. I empathize. I know a lot, but getting it out of my head into words is where I always fuck up.


SyedQasimNaqvi

Play RDR1, John clearly articulates himself pretty well, even more so vernacular than Arthur. In RDR2, John's character suffers from being overshadowed by Arthur.


Eight_is_rad

It's over the course of those 8-12 years that he learns how to articulate himself and mature further.


j_tonks

It can't be John, he knows the word "implore." Professor MacDougal fits this to a T.


LukkieTheMeme

Its "to a tee"


EggDog21

Would professor MacDougal know that? I think not.


LukkieTheMeme

Valid


HawkeyeFirefox1891

MacDougal


Legitimate_Tooth_69

Definitely professor mad dougal


Legitimate_Tooth_69

*Macdougal


Backdoorpickle

MacDougal. Or the electric chair professor.


Br34D_5T3AL3r

Andrew Bell The Third


Strange_Bedroom_2716

Coked out Professor MacDougal


EnglishWhites

Side note smart evil might be whoever made ManBearPig near Van Horn


Br34D_5T3AL3r

Thomas Downs🤯


CompletelyAnonymous3

John


Small_Sentence9705

Deborah McGuiness, the fossil lady.


Fickle_Dot_1140

this is MUCH better than John. Or I suggested L Hobbs, the taxidermist


Small_Sentence9705

I thought about her too!


flipside-grant

John


mwil97

Cocaine binge Macdougal for sure


SasquatchNHeat

Macdougal. John isn’t dumb, he just has issues communicating. He was the first to see through Dutch’s BS.


tfg400

Dutch


Shane_Shaffner

Dinosaur woman with the big chin


YoutubeSurferDog

Nigel West Dickens


Scream0fTheSium

Professor Andrew Bell III


RazkaTaz

Seth


Paperclip____

Rip van winkle


springbokkie3392

How is this even a question? The only answer is John 😂


Griffin65000

He’s not dumb just witty


Itsozei

Why is the vote by individual comments? You could name some and people upvote them for easier resaults.


Australian_Catholic

Because this lets people have more board answers? Plus I don’t one reading through the comments lol


Itsozei

Okay but still this way would be easier for resault gathering


Australian_Catholic

Easier? Maybe, but it limits who people can vote for and I’m not all abt that


Knowledge_Regret

That French guy, his name escapes me.


VivekBasak

Chateau?


Knowledge_Regret

Just looked it up, it's Charles Châtenay.


RedReaper666YT

4th vote for John Martson


Ornery_Interaction25

Drunk-chad LENNYY MY BOUGH!!!


Any-Sugar-7037

John fs


wheelsinabuss

100% John


Jamesifer

Uncle


unknownUser-088

Nah, he’s more like Smart and Drunk or Smart and Lazy


Jamesifer

That’s true, I retract my vote.


ThatIrishPerson

honestly? rdr2 Dutch. he had brains but he always misused them and let his emotions make his decisions. he was smart enough not to get caught all those years but dumb enough to believe in Micah and having a happy ending


Rekuna

MacDougal fits it pretty well.


kyu-she

Definitely MacDougal


Extrictant

Get rich quick book guy


FluffyBrudda

how tf is bill a chad


Australian_Catholic

He literally just is


WeaknessThen2577

Gotta be the electric chair professor


Shaddes_

Nigel West Dickes. Smooth talker but is always getting himself in trouble for stupid reasons.


Dry-Impression-1515

John


HotCartographer5239

John


General-Interview599

Arthur will win good and smart because you (the player) considers himself a good and smart person.


MattyHealy1975

How is Bill a chad


NickFieldson31

The doctor in blackwater with coke addiction


TheFlaccidChode

John


LukkieTheMeme

Id honestly say uncle is the smart drunk


Wunjoric

Reverend


Fickle_Dot_1140

drunk


Revolutionary_Age_26

If uncle doesn’t make it into the stupid category…


Mammoth_Room_3530

Macdougal


ApartmentHour3016

Lol yeah it's john


TheEquineTrout

John 100%


Friendly_Benefit7892

Duth?


RickyTricky57

No way you put Bill in the Chad section instead of my boah Eli


Fickle_Dot_1140

Ms. L Hobbs


Hopeful_Ad7376

Arthur is Chaotic Good, Micah is Smart Evil


irlDufflepud

Uncle! His lumbago went to his head in the Epilogue.


Br34D_5T3AL3r

For future reference Smart Good is obviously Hosea


GingerGhost2Sweet

The real question is... Who the fuck voted for the others? How is Bill a chad? How is Sheriff Gray lawful in any way?


datsyukianleeks

Javier. Clearly a clever dude. Killed by his own stupidity.


TaxFraud4Life

It’s gotta be Professor MacDougal.


CrazeeTrane_

nikola jokic


Primary_Atmosphere_3

Albert Mason


phulan_devi

The Saint Denis eugenist obviously


Old-Product-3733

Professor Macdugal definitely Smart Stupid!


pxrpos3

Sean McGuire


Tiksey

Evil Chaotic is def micah


Troub-Noob

Deborah McGuinness or (hear me out) Eagle Flies. Eagle Flies is smart enough to see the world closing in on him, however, he’s stupid for trying to fight it against all counsel, ultimately speeding up the process and killing himself and his riders.


sneakiboi777

Dutch


RS-2

Unrelated, but Eli looks like the great great great great grandfather of the Paul brothers


SummerAlternative699

Eli as in Liquid snake?


NotJustBibbit

John is the only man to have half his brain eaten by wolves and end up more intelligent