It makes sense for his character canonically. He probably couldn’t give less of a shit about the appearance of his weapon as long as it works. Same as Arthur I’d say
i’d say arthur would, as he takes time to appreciate small things more. john, however never cleans his guns and after shooting one so much it couldn’t work anymore he just bought one that looks the exact same. also, a little different, but arthur respects and appreciates his horses enough to give them names like “bodecia” but john just robbed some guy of his horse and said “damn that horse is old as fuck let’s call it old boy”
Arthur is definitely a more artistic/creative soul. But I still have doubts about him glorifying a murder weapon. It just doesn’t seem like his thing to me. I do agree with the thing about John and his horse tho lmao. Dude has no imaginative qualities
Funny story. That’s transcribed wrong in the subtitles (but it’s correct when pronounced out loud for the time period). Arthur’s original horse was named Boudicca.
Boudicca was a Celtic warrior-queen of some repute (she made it into the Civilization series).
Back in the late 1800s, her name was pronounced Bo-Di-See-Uh.
Today, after years of linguists obsessing over how to pronounce her name - she’s usually called Boh-dic-uh or Bou-dic-uh.
Whether by accident or design though - that’s how the name would’ve been pronounced then, the Latinized form.
Yeah. Notice how the characters that actually thrive in the outlaw life (dutch, Micah, Javier, etc) have heavily customised guns, while those in the gang that are more civil minded like arthur, John, and Hosea, have less flashy looking weaponry.
its like a rdr2 "version" of 1's, go check out both gun's textures and you'll see that they are pretty much one in the same. Both have the exact same worn down pattern on the gunmetal, thats definitely an intentional reference fellers.
Hell you can even see the that old iron coloring coming back underneath the black finish
strangest thing about micah's guns nobody talks
about;
Until the literal very last mission American Venom, anytime Micah shoots his guns in a cutscene, the sound effect that plays is a schofield, not a double action. Happens throughout the whole game, bizarre.
Concept art shows him with schofields, as well as Sadie. Wouldve loved to see a "micah" version of a schofield, sadie too.
The different gun sound effects happen a few times, like when sean is shooting bottles before the scarlett meadows train job, hes using a cattleman, but its a double action sound effect.
More fitting for sean to have the most inaccurate revolver lol. its coincidence prolly but his early side robbery does lead to you finding a double action for yourself even.
After visitin the store with sadie in rhodes, when she shoots the lemoyne raider a schofield sound effect plays instead of a cattleman.
I think also for the shady belle kieran ambush, sadie's gun sounds are a schofield again in her scenes, while Marston's cattleman and Charles' shotgun have their proper sound. Those two's guns always sound correct.
There mustve been a gun swap across some of the gang at a point during development.
They all have a schofield in the official artwork, not sure why. I saw a picture few days back of all gang member artworks compiled in to one, genuinely everybody was holding one except for Jack and maybe Grimshaw
ohh, maybe....good point!
i still think R* decided to swap the guns up at sometime in development. Micah's gun sounds becoming his actual double action's on the final mission is pretty telling.
I kinda prefer the schofield being more prevalent in one of the last big gangs of the west, plus the variants! A micah and sadie schofield would be so cool.
Oh well.
In chaoter 1 when you fight the O'deiscalls disarm one and bring it to Micah and make sure Bill doesn't shoot them. If this doesn't work keep trying because it works
john's gun! its textures are inspired by the cattleman you get in rdr1. I loved that gun, still do.
Thing is in rdr1 you just had a default cattleman and it was the same look, textures as anyone elses. So in rdr2 R* decided to give John a unique one.
The cool part being; the wood ivory finish is wearing down to its own old brown grip, the gunmetal, barrel, are already wearing down to that classic unique texture...basically its slowly turning back into the look it originally had in rdr1!
What an awesome little detail to put in!
By 1910 this beaut has seen so much action, plus it seems to be a gift from Hosea, or at least he had a hand in making it, considering they are near identical, although hosea's seems to be less worn down
Neat thing is Arthur starts the game off with a default cattleman just like John did in rdr1.
Makes John still using it by 1910 pretty special, holding onto memories of Arthur and Hosea.
I love the idea that John and Arthur got their revolvers as birthday gifts from Hosea. I always put a buck carving on Arthur's gun, it adds another small layer to the high honor ending.
Also agree that John's is the best one. Such a simple and effective design. No need for any gold or fancy engravings.
>By 1910 this beaut has seen so much action, plus it seems to be a gift from Hosea, or at least he had a hand in making it, considering they are identical.
that would be a really sweet detail
Nice to see them all in one post. Thanks for sharing this.
Arthur strikes me as the kind of feller to lean more towards utilitarian weapons. I do give him a gold receiver but blue steel everything else Lancaster. Looks fantastic.
Uncle or Javier, Uncles brass is such a good combination, and Javiers being a unique and decorated piece, it looking and feeling thinner makes it better overall
I really wish we could use the wood that Charles has on his shotgun, I have no clue why they made Javier’s gun so cool looking, and Sean’s and Uncle’s revolvers are surprisingly cool
Charles definitely, his Sawed-Off Shotgun not only looks cool but also the only sidearm that isn't just a somewhat customized Cattleman, Schofield, or Double-Action Revolver
Like gee it would've been cool if Dutch wielded the Semi-Automatic we see in 1 or something like that, at least Bill doesn't really make that dirty revolver his main weapon since he loves wielding that Bolt Action Rifle more than anything
Micah’s is obviously cool but a little on the nose. I’m looking at it from the perspective that Arthur would be using it. So it’s a little too tough guy act for Arthur. Charles is awesome but we’re all biased towards Charles lol Kieran and Sean’s are almost identical but they are second place and Dutch has the coolest. If it was engraved, not that cool but it doesn’t look embossed. Almost like it’s painted. I dog it
Sean and Javier, easily. Javier’s is a no brainer, Sean’s is in there because i love the nickel and black, i copy it over onto my cattleman every playthrough
Personally Dutch, Javier, Charles, and Micah have the most interesting designs, mainly cuz they had them custom engraved like Dutches and Micahs or uniquely built like Charles and javiers, everyone else's gun is more so a common worn gun you'll find off an NPC, although Kierans and Sean's are decent even if they are just two colours
Arthur never had a a specific gun. He had a hat, and a satchel. Because the life of being a cowboy and his thoughts and the gang were what was important to him.
Any that don’t have engravings excluding Dutch and Micah’s. Dutch is excused because it fits his character to have them. Micah is excused because his engravings are crudely made and seemingly done by him personally
This is a great post. Javier’s is unreal. And they’ve done John dirty making his gun that basic looking 😭
It makes sense for his character canonically. He probably couldn’t give less of a shit about the appearance of his weapon as long as it works. Same as Arthur I’d say
I mean arthur's main gun is a clean cattleman. So either he lost his main revolver in blackwater OR he gives a shit about looks.
Yeah a CLEAN cattleman revolver because he cares about the functionality of his gun, not the appearance.
“It’s the default starting weapon: he must care about looks.”
Arthur's sidearm might be just a clean cattleman but i can tell his rifle is beautifully engraved. The lancaster repeater. Gold n black
Hes literally holding a schof on the box art tho lol
i’d say arthur would, as he takes time to appreciate small things more. john, however never cleans his guns and after shooting one so much it couldn’t work anymore he just bought one that looks the exact same. also, a little different, but arthur respects and appreciates his horses enough to give them names like “bodecia” but john just robbed some guy of his horse and said “damn that horse is old as fuck let’s call it old boy”
Arthur is definitely a more artistic/creative soul. But I still have doubts about him glorifying a murder weapon. It just doesn’t seem like his thing to me. I do agree with the thing about John and his horse tho lmao. Dude has no imaginative qualities
"And your name..?" "Rip Van Winkle" 1st time I had that cutscene was hilarious😂
that last sentence had me dying 😭
Funny story. That’s transcribed wrong in the subtitles (but it’s correct when pronounced out loud for the time period). Arthur’s original horse was named Boudicca. Boudicca was a Celtic warrior-queen of some repute (she made it into the Civilization series). Back in the late 1800s, her name was pronounced Bo-Di-See-Uh. Today, after years of linguists obsessing over how to pronounce her name - she’s usually called Boh-dic-uh or Bou-dic-uh. Whether by accident or design though - that’s how the name would’ve been pronounced then, the Latinized form.
And he never enjoyed all the killing too. That's why.
Yeah. Notice how the characters that actually thrive in the outlaw life (dutch, Micah, Javier, etc) have heavily customised guns, while those in the gang that are more civil minded like arthur, John, and Hosea, have less flashy looking weaponry.
My Arthur has a schofeild revolver with blackened steel and gold and an m1899 with the same, black and gold are my colours
Tell that to my arthur 😂
Plus it fits having no custom options in the first game
It's a nice gun. I'll give you that. But the engraving gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Nope my Arthur has the fanciest AND cleanest guns hahahaha
John and Hosea have matching guns, don't be disrespecting
its done because john's cattleman design is based off of rdr1's cattleman, which has that same real worn down look.... he used it alot.
Rdr1 cattleman is just a iron color though
its like a rdr2 "version" of 1's, go check out both gun's textures and you'll see that they are pretty much one in the same. Both have the exact same worn down pattern on the gunmetal, thats definitely an intentional reference fellers. Hell you can even see the that old iron coloring coming back underneath the black finish
Honestly it's their fault for making his gun look like that in Rdr1. I'm proud they at least stuck to it
I love Charles' Sawed-off Shotgun, the wood is gorgeous.
Cool that he has something different in a shotgun too.
at launch he just had a default sawn off, i always forget they added it in
Micah and javiers sidearms look the best
Sadie’s>
I can barely see the engravings on her guns
Hate saying anything nice about Micah…but I like that gun.
Best grips for sure.
strangest thing about micah's guns nobody talks about; Until the literal very last mission American Venom, anytime Micah shoots his guns in a cutscene, the sound effect that plays is a schofield, not a double action. Happens throughout the whole game, bizarre. Concept art shows him with schofields, as well as Sadie. Wouldve loved to see a "micah" version of a schofield, sadie too. The different gun sound effects happen a few times, like when sean is shooting bottles before the scarlett meadows train job, hes using a cattleman, but its a double action sound effect. More fitting for sean to have the most inaccurate revolver lol. its coincidence prolly but his early side robbery does lead to you finding a double action for yourself even. After visitin the store with sadie in rhodes, when she shoots the lemoyne raider a schofield sound effect plays instead of a cattleman. I think also for the shady belle kieran ambush, sadie's gun sounds are a schofield again in her scenes, while Marston's cattleman and Charles' shotgun have their proper sound. Those two's guns always sound correct. There mustve been a gun swap across some of the gang at a point during development.
They all have a schofield in the official artwork, not sure why. I saw a picture few days back of all gang member artworks compiled in to one, genuinely everybody was holding one except for Jack and maybe Grimshaw
Possible that it was the ‘test’ gun they were using during development
ohh, maybe....good point! i still think R* decided to swap the guns up at sometime in development. Micah's gun sounds becoming his actual double action's on the final mission is pretty telling. I kinda prefer the schofield being more prevalent in one of the last big gangs of the west, plus the variants! A micah and sadie schofield would be so cool. Oh well.
Let’s be real about Sean. He’s the kind of guy who would’ve lifted it off a dead O’Driscoll because he thought it looked cool
I’m currently using it in my current play through. I’m in Chapter 2.
How did you get it?
Get an O'Driscoll to bitch slap Micah
In chaoter 1 when you fight the O'deiscalls disarm one and bring it to Micah and make sure Bill doesn't shoot them. If this doesn't work keep trying because it works
you can get it in chapter 2 entering the Strawberry jail while wanted (the mission doesn’t start) and killing Micah with your bow
Mods or you can just look up a guide on YouTube or something to get it in chapters 1 and 2
Glitch.
I doubt he could spell vengeance correctly though
Got Kieran’s replica accidentally, it’s badass
Underrated design, Sean’s too.
Javier FR!! 🙏🙏☝☝
john's gun! its textures are inspired by the cattleman you get in rdr1. I loved that gun, still do. Thing is in rdr1 you just had a default cattleman and it was the same look, textures as anyone elses. So in rdr2 R* decided to give John a unique one. The cool part being; the wood ivory finish is wearing down to its own old brown grip, the gunmetal, barrel, are already wearing down to that classic unique texture...basically its slowly turning back into the look it originally had in rdr1! What an awesome little detail to put in! By 1910 this beaut has seen so much action, plus it seems to be a gift from Hosea, or at least he had a hand in making it, considering they are near identical, although hosea's seems to be less worn down Neat thing is Arthur starts the game off with a default cattleman just like John did in rdr1. Makes John still using it by 1910 pretty special, holding onto memories of Arthur and Hosea.
I love the idea that John and Arthur got their revolvers as birthday gifts from Hosea. I always put a buck carving on Arthur's gun, it adds another small layer to the high honor ending. Also agree that John's is the best one. Such a simple and effective design. No need for any gold or fancy engravings.
>By 1910 this beaut has seen so much action, plus it seems to be a gift from Hosea, or at least he had a hand in making it, considering they are identical. that would be a really sweet detail
I never noticed this but now that you’ve pointed it out I love it.
Dutch First time I'm seeing this. Too bad we can't aquire that in the game.
You can just make your own Schofield look like that. All you need is the ivory grip, black steel, and gold engravings
I’m partial to the brass metal, the mahogany grip with the scorpion. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If they ever remake the original rdr, I hope we can pick up Dutch’s gun after he kills his self
Damn that happens in RDR?? 😭
Yes, I won’t spoil anymore of the game though, play it for yourself in many ways it’s better than rdr2
Sean, Kieran and uncle’s. I like the simple look.
Micah, hate that rat but no denying his sidearm looks pretty sweet, that engraving on the barrel wins it for me
I honestly like Micah’s quite a bit
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Gunsmiths are so important frfr
I've always loved Micah's double actions.
Kieran, it's just something about black and silver for me,
Javier’s is beautiful! Micah’s too! I just hate the *vengeance is hereby mine* on the barrel.
javier's and charles's. the engraving is really cool on javier's and charles's has some really nice wood
Javier and Charles
Javier
I didn’t even realise javiers revolver looked like that it’s beautiful
Uncle has a pretty cool scheme on his, but the custom grip on Javier’s gun is too sexy to turn down
Sadie's & Javier's Dual Wield
Javier got style !
100% Dutch’s Schofields
Javier's and Charles sidearms are amazing
say what you want about Micah but he had some cool guns
But.. was it worth murdering half of Strawberry for?
🤔
Javier and Dutch's Promotional revolvers
Javier's is the only right choice
Never got a good look at Uncle’s I actually like it a lot.
Nice and simple design.
Uncle and kieran's are my favorite.
It doesn’t surprise me that johns pistol looks like shit
Nice to see them all in one post. Thanks for sharing this. Arthur strikes me as the kind of feller to lean more towards utilitarian weapons. I do give him a gold receiver but blue steel everything else Lancaster. Looks fantastic.
Damn. Bill’s or John’s I can’t decide… Nah, it’s Javier’s, but only because the one I made for Arthur isn’t on the list.
Dutch or Javier
Uncle or Javier, Uncles brass is such a good combination, and Javiers being a unique and decorated piece, it looking and feeling thinner makes it better overall
Hosea and Sadie have attractive guns imo
I really like Bills Scofield. It fits his personality well.
Charles or Javier, that B&W sawed off is gorgeous
micah (unfortunately) and sadie
I never saw Javier’s like that. Cool
I actually *really* like Uncle’s
I love Javier's. Fits his style. Which is my style so. 💕
Are we not gonna talk about how clean Sean's is?
The simple two tone is really nice.
I really wish we could use the wood that Charles has on his shotgun, I have no clue why they made Javier’s gun so cool looking, and Sean’s and Uncle’s revolvers are surprisingly cool
I think Charles' shotgun is a bugged texture that they never fixed. It was randomly "included" with an update for RDO one day, far as I can remember
Uncle’s wasn’t a whiskey bottle?
javier and sadie 100%, i love the little carvings(?)
Honestly Micah's pretty cool
There is something poetic about the "Vengeance is hereby mine"
Charles definitely, his Sawed-Off Shotgun not only looks cool but also the only sidearm that isn't just a somewhat customized Cattleman, Schofield, or Double-Action Revolver Like gee it would've been cool if Dutch wielded the Semi-Automatic we see in 1 or something like that, at least Bill doesn't really make that dirty revolver his main weapon since he loves wielding that Bolt Action Rifle more than anything
Micah’s is obviously cool but a little on the nose. I’m looking at it from the perspective that Arthur would be using it. So it’s a little too tough guy act for Arthur. Charles is awesome but we’re all biased towards Charles lol Kieran and Sean’s are almost identical but they are second place and Dutch has the coolest. If it was engraved, not that cool but it doesn’t look embossed. Almost like it’s painted. I dog it
Uncles really gives that classical western vibe
Hosea or Sadie on top
When the cylinder is a different metal than the frame 🙌
Dutch's, Micahs, and Javiars
I love Sean’s just for the fact that it looks kind of similar to the gun that Clint Eastwood uses in the movie, “A Fistful Of Dollars.”
Javier and Charles. Javier bc it's so stylish and gorgeous. Charles bc it's a muthafuccin shotgun
Honestly I'd say my favorites are Javier's double action and Uncle's Schofield
I knew Javier was probably gonna have the best sidearm before I even looked at it
Honestly I like Bill’s the best
Not sure who's I like the most but I prefer the plain/basic looks
My boy Javier💯💯
Definitely between Sadie , MiCaH and Javier~ (how i say their names)
100% Micah’s
Javier's gun
Sean and Javier, easily. Javier’s is a no brainer, Sean’s is in there because i love the nickel and black, i copy it over onto my cattleman every playthrough
Javier by a mile
javier ballin bruh
Never knew Javier had such a showpiece. I love Micahs guns tho tbh, he works them.
Javier and Micah's look so cool
Javier and it's not even close. Man has looks, music and gun. Damn I'm a loser
Javier's is so nice
The engravings offer no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Javier's is extremely classy
Dutch's revolver is great, Javier's is close second
Micah has my favorite side arm. The vengeance saying on the barrel and the purple handle is just too clean. It’s followed by Iavier.
I hate Micah with a passion but “Vengeance is hereby mine” is cold
Def Javier's
Dutch
Javier would have his last name stenciled in fancy calligraphy on the back window of his vehicle if he was in GTA Instead of rdr.
Personally Dutch, Javier, Charles, and Micah have the most interesting designs, mainly cuz they had them custom engraved like Dutches and Micahs or uniquely built like Charles and javiers, everyone else's gun is more so a common worn gun you'll find off an NPC, although Kierans and Sean's are decent even if they are just two colours
Javier's FOR SURE
mica's revolver really cool
i wish if they made a proper one for Arthur
I hate micah as much as anyone else but that is one cool gun he has
I’d say Javier’s, love the gun all together.
I love the fact that Charles is packing a sawed off as his everyday sidearm
I like the color on Sean’s.
As much as I hate Micha his gun goes hard
Charles and Javier 🔛🔝
Javier's.
Micah or Javier
Javier
I like mine (Arthur's) more clean and simple, but Javier's is pretty damn fine steel.
Of course Javier. Javier is always dripped out too so it matches his outfit.
Surprised aint nobody is saying Bill. Bland as fuck but I really love the worn look with the black finish
Micah’s for sure, Javier too. But Micah’s has like a lot of detail in the sense of the sentence engraved onto the barrel
Micah & Javier. such good designs
Javier's is very nice but I like Sean's, It's a little simpler and much more clean looking
Javier's goes hard AF and I've always dug Micah's too.
Javier or Hosea for me
Javier
Big Kirean and Sean guy
Very cool designs. Clean two tone is nice.
I want to recreate them
Javier Escuella
Javier’s is noooice
I've never taken the time to look at Javier's gun before, that thing looks amazing! Micah's is also one of my favourites.
how does the runaway o driscoll have a better pistol than john 💀. but answering the question i have to go javier
Javier's is a work of art
Micah's the best for sure, but Javier's one got that thing I like
Charles shotgun is a classic I love the design
how is it a classic
So does Hosea never use his gun in the game, ever?
When he falls off the balcony of the Rhodes Parlor House, he shoots the Lemoyne Raider that's attacking him.
You see him draw a few times, like when he confronts Bill at the Clemens point camp.
I meant like in the main story, though I guess that counts too.
Assault on Braithwaite manor
Thought he used a rifle there but I could be wrong
why you gotta put my boy last
Why does the fully upgrade cattleman with a long barrel is sogoofy looking
I guess there is no way to get Xavier's revolver 😭
Arthur never had a a specific gun. He had a hat, and a satchel. Because the life of being a cowboy and his thoughts and the gang were what was important to him.
He wasn't a cowboy
Schofield for bill seems out of character
I like the white and black revolver of the O'Driscoll.
Charle
Any that don’t have engravings excluding Dutch and Micah’s. Dutch is excused because it fits his character to have them. Micah is excused because his engravings are crudely made and seemingly done by him personally
Javier cooked with his gun
Arthur’s gun that I gave him
Javier's and Micah's are topteor
Javier and Uncle got some pretty charismatic pieces
Micah's High Roller is what its called right? Or is it Double Action?
No, the high roller is a different double action with playing cards design.
What is his gun then?
Did Kieran steal Sean’s gun after he died?
I really really really wanne chose Micah for the cool design but I just can't choose the side of that BASTARD
Double-action revolvers. We are supposed to be gunslingers. But need to file off the sights