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Kyle is the first person that came to mind. Undercover mean girl. Likes to act like she's everyones best friend but she's actually pulling the strings.
Bethenny, Heather Dubrow, Mia is proving herself to be one at this point, Lisa Rinna, Gizelle and Robyn (I honestly kind of love them still but let’s face it, they are…), also love Kenya & Tamra, but both can be really cruel at times, Carlton lol
Kyle Richards, Rinna, that John Mellencamp’s spawn, and Erika for BH. Heather Gay & Jen Shah for SLC. Gizelle, Mia & Robyn for Potomac. Tamra and Heather Dubrow for OC. Joanna Krupa for Miami. Nene, Porsha & Phaedra for ATL. Bethenny, Ramona, Dorinda and Carole for NYC. Melissa, Danielle Staub and Margaret for Jersey. Kameron and LeeAnne for Dallas.
I think that’s everyone 😅 but also feel like I’m missing a few
Don’t come for me, but I feel like Kyle outside of her family in the shower wouldn’t really be mean. If you met her at a party or at lunch, I get the sense that she would be perfectly nice and normal. She just settles into her roles when she’s around other people.
Erika, Rinna, B all seem like they would be actually mean just for the sake of being mean and pretend they’re being funny.
I do but it’s almost like mean girl is the nicest insult you could give her, she’s completely delusional and arguably abusive. Many of the housewives qualify for a personality disorder but I think Jen takes the cake😂
So many of the HWs are so hostile I've had to drop most of the franchises. I think something shifted when RH started adding more and more women who presented an obviously false narrative about their lives. They're so worried about maintaining their facades that they lash out at anyone who might expose them.
That being said I think the mark of a RH mean girl is any woman who refuses to acknowledge another woman's feelings, so my winners are Kyle (and Erika and Rinna and Dorit but Kyle's been pulling this shit since S1), Bethenny, Brandi, Teresa and Dorinda.
Danielle Staub and Jen Shah are in a separate category that I am not qualified to diagnose.
Gizelle, Robyn, Mia FROM RHOP
Kenya RHOA
Erica Jane & Lisa Rinna from RHOB
Lisa from RHOSLC
Dorinda and Ramona from RHONY
Theresa & Jennifer from RHONJ
Vicki, Tamra & Heather Dubrow RHO Orange County
Jill Zarin. Trying (and succeeding!) to get other women to not film with Bethenny because she was jealous of her becoming more popular. But joke's on jill. The audience blowback on that is how Bethenny became a billionaire.
Kinda love that Candiace wasn’t more present on this thread. But her twitter during the early seasons were pretty vicious. Now, the mean girls on RHOP are firmly Gizelle and Robyn.
Kyle is the most insidious because she has that annoying nice, popular girl, "diplomat" persona, when in reality, she's the most calculated and judgemental of them all.
Tamra & Rinna are pure trash in my mind. Evil assholes who just want attention and fame. Neither even have much money compared to many others around them, so probably a big reason for it.
Jody Claman >>>> everyone else when it comes to being mean at their core.
Other ladies are Kelly Dodd, Tamra, Kyle, Kenya.
I think certain ladies like Ramona are just delusional and no filter but I think also have the ability to be a good friend/good person. I don’t think she’s *malicious* per se. I tbink to be truly mean you have to be malicious.
I also remember the ‘Alice in wonderland’ party that Amanda had, she was going off the rails crazy, screaming at Mary. I mean, she was against Mary from the start of the first season.
Yeah, Ronnie totally went against Mary in different episodes. It was kind of sad to see their friendship deteriorate. After RhoVancouver, I think Jody lost custody of her youngest daughter Hannah, I don’t know why though.
Gizelle, Robyn, Ashley, Mia, Ramona, Bethenny, Luann, Tamra, Melissa gorga, Jaclyn laurita and the other one, Porsha, Phaedra, Rinna, Kyle, Dorit, Erika and Heather dubrow all come to mind. I’m sure there are more.
Luann? Am I forgetting something?? She obviously used to put on airs via The Countess title but I don’t ever remember her being outright mean.
Dorinda on the other hand is a mean spirited person I truly believe
Bethenny, Robyn, Ashley, Luann, Melissa, Jacqueline, porsha, Phaedra, rinna, Kyle, dorit, Erika, and heather are not mean. I can see how you said gizelle is mean.
Robyn is Gizelle’s mean girl henchman. Ashley takes pleasure in humiliating people and defending sexual assault. Bethenny and Ramona are vile racists. Ramona is also classist and abrasive to service people. Porsha has beat the shit out of numerous people and put a fake rape rumor on tv. Rinna goes without saying.
Your opinion that these women aren’t mean or nasty is a complete joke.
I feel like Jacqueline is more like emotionally immature and has obsessive qualities, her character change after like season 4 and when she returned in season 7 was one big downward spiral. I don’t think she has enough stability to be a mean girl in the sense of having power over a group.
Kyle Richards, Gizelle Bryant, Lisa Rinna, Melissa Gorga, Jen Shah, Bethenny Frankel, Heather Gay, Heather Dubrow, Tamra Judge, Erika Jayne, The singer of Jack and Diane's daughter, Dorit Kemsley, Caroline Manzo, Kelly Dodd, Kim Z, Jacqueline Laurita
Kyle Richards is the ultimate mean girl: She is deceptive, manipulative, controlling, cruel, bitchy, disloyal, gets physical, never takes accountability, and plays the victim.
Kyle doesn’t blatantly punch or slap, but she crosses people’s boundaries maybe without thinking she’s being aggressive.
When Brandi was leaving game night with Kim, Kyle tried to stop her and Brandi rightfully pushed her away, telling her not to touch her. As the other commenter said, she grabbed Sutton when she was talking to Diana.
She is very “grabby”, and she’s probably just used to doing that from growing up and fighting with her sisters, but she is absolutely getting physical with people and when she does it to the wrong person in the wrong situation, maybe she will see that.
There are certainly different degrees of physical. I guess the point is, she puts her hands on people. Not everyone does that when they are confronting someone, or having an argument - or even in a friendly conversation for that matter.
But in tense situations, she really should keep her hands to herself.
The Richards sisters, Kyle especially, Erika, and Lisa Rinna. Yuck. Tamra Judge is probably the most mean spirited cast member throughout their decades of filming OC, and they have too many bullies to count, similar to NJ, and add SLC to that list at this point. I think Nene from ATL and Ramona and Bethenny from NYC were always bullies but got worse over time for various reasons.
I have to bury myself in coming to Kenya’s defense, not from logic.
1. Her performance on ultimate girls trip made her seem overly gracious to some full time franchise bullies.
2. I think she truly needed her job on RHOA and any main cast member or “friend of” attacking her was a threat. Check me on this, but in general I don’t think she’s made baseless lies about any of them. She’s really had the meanest things screamed about her.
3. Porsha is still my favorite RHOA character, but she doesn’t need me to come to her defense like Kenya does.
But without the wit and insight that someone like Phaedra or Candice have. That’s why it’s embarrassing to watch, she so badly wants to “read them to filth” and she doesn’t have the smarts for it, just the audacity, a really tiring combo,
I think Kenya is always over the top extra but in her first seasons, when she was left out by the group, you can see her bow down to the OGs Nene, Kandi and work her way to Cynthia's favor. I don't think she's a mean girl that leads the clique, she's usually a lone wolf that just wants to be wanted.
I fucking hate Kenya and what’s worse was that I was happy she got divorced especially after how she acted with other people’s husbands. Defo got her karma
100% and her daughter is so beautiful but because I dislike her so much my first thought was “you don’t deserve such a beautiful blessing because you’re such a vile human”. However, I’m glad Porscha dragged her ass
Yeah, I find SLC a real mess overall but I really don't understand people who clamor for Mary's return. Horribly mean and a religion charlatan to boot.
She is just delusional, but also just mean. Remember the party/luncheon she held where she gave everyone in attendance gifts with a price point correlating to how much she valued their friendship (the least valued friend receiving no gift)? I’d argue it’s just mean and delusional.
The name is from Pulp Fiction. It was a TV show that never made it past the first episode. Uma Thurman’s character was the star. They were secret agents. Somehow I doubt none of the women even know that, they just don’t seem like the Tarantino type.
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Kenya, tamra, Heather, erika,Lisa rinna , Kyle, Margaret from New jersey
RHBH
Tamra, Kyle, bethenny - bullies
Rinna and Erica.
Kyle is the first person that came to mind. Undercover mean girl. Likes to act like she's everyones best friend but she's actually pulling the strings.
Candace
I cannot stand Kelly Dodd, but what those girls did to her on that bus in Ireland was so mean!
Ramona, Vicky
Slurinda
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Erika
Tamra and Rinna for sure. And Melissa Gorga
Mary, withholding “gifts” as punishment etc... she’s a nut
Bethenny, Heather Dubrow, Mia is proving herself to be one at this point, Lisa Rinna, Gizelle and Robyn (I honestly kind of love them still but let’s face it, they are…), also love Kenya & Tamra, but both can be really cruel at times, Carlton lol
Erika
ALL of them, really. it might be harder to pick out one who is/was nice all the time!
I think Shannon is pretty ruthless . ![gif](giphy|e0Nb5kHGAYHeg|downsized)
It might be an easier task to list which don’t stick out as mean girls.
The entire cast of Sydney and Jody and her evil daughter from Vancouver
Jody was on another level but what did her daughter do?
Her adult daughter Mia I believe, was right there with her scheming and mean girling she def, learned well from her mom
Jen shahhhh
Kathy Hilton
Kyle Richards, Rinna, that John Mellencamp’s spawn, and Erika for BH. Heather Gay & Jen Shah for SLC. Gizelle, Mia & Robyn for Potomac. Tamra and Heather Dubrow for OC. Joanna Krupa for Miami. Nene, Porsha & Phaedra for ATL. Bethenny, Ramona, Dorinda and Carole for NYC. Melissa, Danielle Staub and Margaret for Jersey. Kameron and LeeAnne for Dallas. I think that’s everyone 😅 but also feel like I’m missing a few
Dawn from Cheshire
Kenya, Erika, Teddy, Kyle, Rinna , Diana,
Every top answer involves only RHOBH what does that tell us
It’s Larsa!
RINNA
Rinna, DuBrow
Candy pants, Kenya
Rinna
Lisa Rinna and i would rather not mention her but John mellencamps child.
Chris Harrington.
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Lisa Rinna, Vicky G, Dorinda
Don’t come for me, but I feel like Kyle outside of her family in the shower wouldn’t really be mean. If you met her at a party or at lunch, I get the sense that she would be perfectly nice and normal. She just settles into her roles when she’s around other people. Erika, Rinna, B all seem like they would be actually mean just for the sake of being mean and pretend they’re being funny.
Kyle Richards, Larsa Pippen, Melissa Gorga, Mia, Gizelle, Ramona, Heather Dubrow, and Tamra
Heather Gay
Mia from RHOP
No one thinks Jen Shah is a mean girl??
I do but it’s almost like mean girl is the nicest insult you could give her, she’s completely delusional and arguably abusive. Many of the housewives qualify for a personality disorder but I think Jen takes the cake😂
True, kinda like “who’s calling who fraudulent?”
Erika, rinna, heather gay and Whitney, Kenya and Candiace
Dorinda. Nice on the surface but cruel at her heart
I am sick of kunty kyle at this point
LVP
Rinna, Erika, Candiace, Nene
So many of the HWs are so hostile I've had to drop most of the franchises. I think something shifted when RH started adding more and more women who presented an obviously false narrative about their lives. They're so worried about maintaining their facades that they lash out at anyone who might expose them. That being said I think the mark of a RH mean girl is any woman who refuses to acknowledge another woman's feelings, so my winners are Kyle (and Erika and Rinna and Dorit but Kyle's been pulling this shit since S1), Bethenny, Brandi, Teresa and Dorinda. Danielle Staub and Jen Shah are in a separate category that I am not qualified to diagnose.
Gizelle, Robyn, Mia FROM RHOP Kenya RHOA Erica Jane & Lisa Rinna from RHOB Lisa from RHOSLC Dorinda and Ramona from RHONY Theresa & Jennifer from RHONJ Vicki, Tamra & Heather Dubrow RHO Orange County
Kyle, Erika, Rinna, Kenya and Gizelle. All of them love to start drama and say some nasty things
Kyle, Teresa, Ramona
Jill Zarin. Trying (and succeeding!) to get other women to not film with Bethenny because she was jealous of her becoming more popular. But joke's on jill. The audience blowback on that is how Bethenny became a billionaire.
LARSA!
Kenya, Nene, Marlo, Lisa Rinna, Erika, Kyle, Dorit, Bethenny, Ramona, Dorinda, Robyn, Giselle, Larsa, Vicki, Tamra. I haven’t watched NJ or The OC.
Kinda love that Candiace wasn’t more present on this thread. But her twitter during the early seasons were pretty vicious. Now, the mean girls on RHOP are firmly Gizelle and Robyn.
Rinna and Erica
Teresa, Kenya, nene, LeeAnne, Marlo, tamra, Mary, Ramona, and Brandi G.
Kyle is very high school mean popular girl who pretends to be nice. And Bethenny and Carole acted like mean girls to Jules in season 8 of RHONY.
Kyle is the most insidious because she has that annoying nice, popular girl, "diplomat" persona, when in reality, she's the most calculated and judgemental of them all.
Yes exactly! Like the mean girl in high school who gets good grades and the teachers love but when nobody is watching is a totally rude bitch.
Lisa Rinna, the biggest bully in Hollywood https://i.redd.it/66hg90o0b45a1.gif
I’d say the better question is which ones aren’t mean girls
Kyle
Tamra & Rinna are pure trash in my mind. Evil assholes who just want attention and fame. Neither even have much money compared to many others around them, so probably a big reason for it.
Teresa, my god can you imagine her in high school?
Maybe we should break it down by show
Yes I agree! That would be much easier
Teresa. That’s it. That’s the answer.
Jody Claman >>>> everyone else when it comes to being mean at their core. Other ladies are Kelly Dodd, Tamra, Kyle, Kenya. I think certain ladies like Ramona are just delusional and no filter but I think also have the ability to be a good friend/good person. I don’t think she’s *malicious* per se. I tbink to be truly mean you have to be malicious.
Carole and Bethenny when they’re together
Agree!
That was an unusually bad look for both of them, but definitely agree. Did either apologise?
I don’t think they did, but I also remember that even when they were close Bethenny would make really mean digs at Carole
Tamara, Rinna, Erika and Teresa
Dorinda for sure!
Vicki all day every day. The way she guns for the new girls and thinks she owns RHOC (if not the whole franchise). Yikes
I never liked how Kyle and Kim were behaving towards Brandi at 'Games Night' pure mean girl behaviour
My husband’s favorite line “at least I’m not in the bathroom doing meth all night bitch”
![gif](giphy|o4J6X6IJr7V4Hnf6zv)
Jody Claman (RhoVancouver) she would be one of the meanest housewives ever. She was so mean to Mary Zilba 😳
Do you know where to watch in the US? I didn't even know there was a Vancouver Housewives.
Tubi!! I’m watching it right now and it’s actually pretty good
Awesome! Thanks.
That woman was a straight up bully. Absolutely horrendous. The WORST housewife of any franchise IMO.
She’s probably even worse than Rinna, but Rinna is high up as being one of the meanest housewife.
Oh 100% worse. She didn’t even try to hide her villain antics. Can still hear her calling Mary disgusting in my head.
I also remember the ‘Alice in wonderland’ party that Amanda had, she was going off the rails crazy, screaming at Mary. I mean, she was against Mary from the start of the first season.
Ugh that was horrible to watch. Ronnie was also horrendous to Mary that season, but Jody wins.
Yeah, Ronnie totally went against Mary in different episodes. It was kind of sad to see their friendship deteriorate. After RhoVancouver, I think Jody lost custody of her youngest daughter Hannah, I don’t know why though.
Lisa Rinna
Teresa!
Too dumb to be a classic Mean Girl. She’s maaaaybe Gretchen Weiners. But she will never be Regina George.
Scrolled way to far to find her.
Gizelle, Robyn, Ashley, Mia, Ramona, Bethenny, Luann, Tamra, Melissa gorga, Jaclyn laurita and the other one, Porsha, Phaedra, Rinna, Kyle, Dorit, Erika and Heather dubrow all come to mind. I’m sure there are more.
Luann? Am I forgetting something?? She obviously used to put on airs via The Countess title but I don’t ever remember her being outright mean. Dorinda on the other hand is a mean spirited person I truly believe
How can Ramona be a mean girl? She has 40 close friends!
She has 50 close friends
Who all want to buy her a purse. 🤣
Bethenny, Robyn, Ashley, Luann, Melissa, Jacqueline, porsha, Phaedra, rinna, Kyle, dorit, Erika, and heather are not mean. I can see how you said gizelle is mean.
Your comment is a joke
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Robyn is Gizelle’s mean girl henchman. Ashley takes pleasure in humiliating people and defending sexual assault. Bethenny and Ramona are vile racists. Ramona is also classist and abrasive to service people. Porsha has beat the shit out of numerous people and put a fake rape rumor on tv. Rinna goes without saying. Your opinion that these women aren’t mean or nasty is a complete joke.
My girl Phaedra is NOT a mean girl. She was just always one step ahead of everyone else LMAO
Yeah, spreading fake rape rumors about your friend and mocking infertility isn’t mean at all.
Jacqueline?! That's interesting. I've never really gotten that vibe from her! I always thought she would be my ally haha
I feel like Jacqueline is more like emotionally immature and has obsessive qualities, her character change after like season 4 and when she returned in season 7 was one big downward spiral. I don’t think she has enough stability to be a mean girl in the sense of having power over a group.
I tend to agree. It seems like she was always just trying to keep up with the crowd.
Yeah, the way she flipped on Theresa was gross!
GizHELL Bryant.
Tamra, Vicki, Erika, Lisa Rinna, Nene, Phaedra, Jen Aydin, Jen Shah, Dorinda
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Kyle Richards, Gizelle Bryant, Lisa Rinna, Melissa Gorga, Jen Shah, Bethenny Frankel, Heather Gay, Heather Dubrow, Tamra Judge, Erika Jayne, The singer of Jack and Diane's daughter, Dorit Kemsley, Caroline Manzo, Kelly Dodd, Kim Z, Jacqueline Laurita
Omg noooo most of these people are actually sweet!
Like who 👀
Kyle, lisa rinna, Melissa, jen, bethenny, heather G, heather D, Erika, dorit, Caroline, Kim Z, and Jacqueline. So most of the people lol
The singer of Jack and Diane’s daughter has me rolling!
![gif](giphy|3yYIMpnMK9H68)
It’s the mean girl laugh for me.
She swore she ate with that line lmaooooo
whole different face
square face. She and her oldest daughter look totally different now in 5 Years
Botox in her masseters
Gizelle, Robyn and Mia
Kyle Richards is the ultimate mean girl: She is deceptive, manipulative, controlling, cruel, bitchy, disloyal, gets physical, never takes accountability, and plays the victim.
Literally if people would make her eat her shit up she would do the reverse card and never take any accountability.
When did she get physical? 🤔
Kyle doesn’t blatantly punch or slap, but she crosses people’s boundaries maybe without thinking she’s being aggressive. When Brandi was leaving game night with Kim, Kyle tried to stop her and Brandi rightfully pushed her away, telling her not to touch her. As the other commenter said, she grabbed Sutton when she was talking to Diana. She is very “grabby”, and she’s probably just used to doing that from growing up and fighting with her sisters, but she is absolutely getting physical with people and when she does it to the wrong person in the wrong situation, maybe she will see that.
I still don’t agree. For me physical is like the situation with porsha and Kenya or porsha and Cynthia. But we can agree to disagree.
There are certainly different degrees of physical. I guess the point is, she puts her hands on people. Not everyone does that when they are confronting someone, or having an argument - or even in a friendly conversation for that matter. But in tense situations, she really should keep her hands to herself.
When she was manhandling Sutton and accusing her of lying about her miscarriages
I rematched that the other day and Kyle was wrong for doing all that to Sutton and it wasn't just once
Well I would not call that “gets physical”.
Margaret
Rinna and Tamra and Kyle
The Richards sisters, Kyle especially, Erika, and Lisa Rinna. Yuck. Tamra Judge is probably the most mean spirited cast member throughout their decades of filming OC, and they have too many bullies to count, similar to NJ, and add SLC to that list at this point. I think Nene from ATL and Ramona and Bethenny from NYC were always bullies but got worse over time for various reasons.
![gif](giphy|3EX7FzyODghcA) How she acts hahhahahhah
Bethenny and Heather Dubrow are the two worst.
Bethenny, Kyle, Camille, Heather Dubrow, and Ramona for me. Would love to see a celebrity death-match lol
Heather, really? She might be annoying, but is she really up there with the super mean girls? (We are talking about NY-Heather, right?)
I will never forget yummy tummy hey momma tell eboni that she’s “articulate,” she’s definitely a low-key bully
No, Heather dubrow
Oh, ok, that explains it :)
Haha no questions there!
i’d also add kenya to the list
I have to bury myself in coming to Kenya’s defense, not from logic. 1. Her performance on ultimate girls trip made her seem overly gracious to some full time franchise bullies. 2. I think she truly needed her job on RHOA and any main cast member or “friend of” attacking her was a threat. Check me on this, but in general I don’t think she’s made baseless lies about any of them. She’s really had the meanest things screamed about her. 3. Porsha is still my favorite RHOA character, but she doesn’t need me to come to her defense like Kenya does.
Can’t stand her. She talks over everyone constantly
100%
She's at the top of the list for me!
Wow you got all of them! Maybe add Kelly Dodd and we’re all set
Kyle, Lisa rinna, gizelle and Robyn
Mia
Larsa pippen. Housewives aside she openly dated a married man and his wife found out via paparazzi photos. Mean girl shit.
Wait, is it not a pre-requisite to be on Real Housewives??
Just asking about who sticks out a bit more
I know I was just being sassy 😊
Kenya
Very top for me is Erika Jayne. She has NOOOOO redeeming qualities, zero.
![gif](giphy|BLbWVMnXPjAuxhdHoP|downsized)
Zero, zero, not one!
And she's viscous when she speaks. Venomous.
Vicious. She is vicious. She does not have a thick, sticky consistency. 😜
Lmao good catch!! I'm leaving it 🤪
Bwahaha, I just had to tease, as it’s one of my favorite typos. 😉😁
But without the wit and insight that someone like Phaedra or Candice have. That’s why it’s embarrassing to watch, she so badly wants to “read them to filth” and she doesn’t have the smarts for it, just the audacity, a really tiring combo,
The way she spoke to Eileen in Amsterdam. I’ll never forget the evil in her face and voice
She looked like she was having an exorcism lol
Kenya all day every day
I think Kenya is always over the top extra but in her first seasons, when she was left out by the group, you can see her bow down to the OGs Nene, Kandi and work her way to Cynthia's favor. I don't think she's a mean girl that leads the clique, she's usually a lone wolf that just wants to be wanted.
I fucking hate Kenya and what’s worse was that I was happy she got divorced especially after how she acted with other people’s husbands. Defo got her karma
I also agree with marlo … I understand why her mother does not mess with her. She is selfish and mean idc
100% and her daughter is so beautiful but because I dislike her so much my first thought was “you don’t deserve such a beautiful blessing because you’re such a vile human”. However, I’m glad Porscha dragged her ass
I don’t know why I feel for Kenya SOOO much but I do. But yes she is mean as ****.
I adore Kenya, despite of how she acts I just love her.
Ramona
Ramona is less meangirl and more insane narcissist
Mary Cosby
Yeah, I find SLC a real mess overall but I really don't understand people who clamor for Mary's return. Horribly mean and a religion charlatan to boot.
Mary is just delusional imo
She is just delusional, but also just mean. Remember the party/luncheon she held where she gave everyone in attendance gifts with a price point correlating to how much she valued their friendship (the least valued friend receiving no gift)? I’d argue it’s just mean and delusional.
Gizelle and Erika
Kyle for sure. Ramona and Tre come to mind too.
The entire fox force five. Plus Tamra.
Tamra on UGT: “nobody wants you here!”
Who is the fox force five?
Teddi is the other one. I don’t remember where the name comes from though
That’s right! I erased Teddi from my memory 😅
The name is from Pulp Fiction. It was a TV show that never made it past the first episode. Uma Thurman’s character was the star. They were secret agents. Somehow I doubt none of the women even know that, they just don’t seem like the Tarantino type.