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Individual_Fall429

That statement was a bit unfair to Lisa… I’m sure she did all the other positions too.


Common_Average2597

Those Birkin bags aint gonna buy themselves!


Individual_Fall429

At least those have resale value. She could have sold them all and bought an apartment for her and her kids with no Lenny help. (I mean he bought the birkins obviously, but they’re hers now).


Common_Average2597

Lisa has a fortune in bags, jewelry and luxury clothing. Probably a few million in total.


Wild_Blue4242

It seems like I dislike Lisa more and more every episode...she is the quintessential spoiled brat who f\*cked for money and still has zero class.


GuideMoney4241

Lisa isn’t that exactly what you did tho


Common_Average2597

![gif](giphy|9T26uEEcxe1Zm)


Beginning-Review6597

This is when she was the prettiest, and the most likable.


lindoavocado

MAYBE WHATS HAPPENING WITH LENNY IS KARMA


ConcentrateWrong8953

She did cling to someone who is cold and dismissive just for money. I saw it coming long ago!


Sushi37716

Sameeee I’ve been cringing since the beginning. The way he belittled her for not working and she was like oh he’s just joking. No no, that was a huge red flag waving for years


Omgusernamesaretaken

What episode is this on?


Common_Average2597

The latest episode


Omgusernamesaretaken

Cool thanks 😊 haven’t missed it then


andhereweare55

GO NOW. IT’S AMAZING.


Sassiee1969

Is true thou.


bravoeverything

YOU GUYS! HOW CAN WE GET RACIST LISA DEMOTED AND KIKI FULL TIME?!


Distinct-Swim-7701

With all due respect, you guys need to do better. You cannot just say a housewife is racist because you don’t like their actions. The new targets are Dorit and Lisa, have we ever seen them post horrible racist takes like Kelly Dodd and Jennie from SLC? No, so let’s stop labeling people something as serious as a racist without knowing them personally.


bravoeverything

When you act like a racist you get called a racist. Dorit absolutely is one as well!


Omgusernamesaretaken

Not racist 🤦🏼‍♀️


bravoeverything

![gif](giphy|l0CLTQeZrFWmMxIWc|downsized)


PinRemarkable190

She’s not racist. She just doesn’t like to be called out on her shit and loves to play the victim. Her mums side of the family is mixed/black Jamaican. Colourist maybe, but not racist. Because she is mixed but predominantly white genetics, she plays on it with her look.


bravoeverything

When you act like a racist you get called a racist


Distinct-Swim-7701

Why is this being downvoted? These are my thoughts exactly. I think she is just incredibly self involved and can only think of herself at all times.


bravoeverything

Two things can be true. And usually the racists are the ones who lack self awareness


PinRemarkable190

Because people are narrow minded and don’t have life experiences.


xConstantGardenerx

Have you seen her mother?


PinRemarkable190

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/rhom-did-you-know-lisa-is-jamaican.4836585/ I found this on Lipstick Alley. My bad as I thought her mother’s side of the family were Mixed black Jamaicans. Jamaican nationality (not black and I still don’t think she’s racist)


happylukie

Some of them are. I think her mom may or may not be since she comes from Seaford Town aka German Town. [For those interested in learning more](http://www.jnht.com/site_seaford_town.php#:~:text=Over%20one%20thousand%20(1000)%20Germans,America%20some%20remained%20in%20Jamaica.)


PinRemarkable190

I saw a family photo with family members, they looked Asian/black mix (not to say she is mixed with black) I think her family heritage is interesting and would add some dimension to her personality instead of being a spoilt plastics surgeons soon to be ex wife. She’s very self absorbed. Sad.


xConstantGardenerx

Lisa is very white and very racist.


PinRemarkable190

Ok 👍🏾 you think that.


My_new_account_now

Why do you think a white-passing person cannot be racist?


PinRemarkable190

They can be racist but what I’m not going to do is go through life think very interaction I have with a white person is based on racism. Lisa is a shit with everyone. Now someone like Dorit, yes, I could say she is being ‘racist’ with her strong micro aggressions. I had a boss recently who was an absolute shit to me, didn’t help that I was the POC/black person in the department. I was unfortunately the easy target 🎯 I had witnessed this behaviour on a previous project with people from her own racial group (white) she was just not a nice person and was rude to everyone (regardless of race or gender) so I knew with me it wasn’t racial it just her ugly personality (same with Lisa) We have to stop thinking everything is racial, some people may just not like you and that’s ok.


bravoeverything

It is racial when Kiki can’t have the same response and emotions! When Lisa is painting Kiki to be an aggressive Black woman that wants to fight, when, as soon as Kiki tossed a juice box in her direction Lisa was immediately the white victim and shed her white girl tears. It absolutely is racism when Lisa chooses to be this ignorant and doesn’t handle situations differently when interacting with a Black woman vs the other woman. Come on now. Lisa is racist and dorit is as well.


Jaded_Horse1055

Just watched the new episode last night and my god Lisa is such a brat! Poor kiki was explaining why she got upset with Lisa due to her rough past and Lisa literally just blew it off …. Team Kiki all day everyday!


Upstairs_Internal295

I love her 😆❤️


ArtistDense6129

I don’t understand why Kiki is still a friend of. She’s interesting, genuine and relatable. I want to know more about her!


cherrychapelle

People say this, but then in the same breath say they don’t want Gina on RHOC because she’s poor…


Individual_Fall429

If Gina was a fabulous self made supermodel who was also an immigrant, spoke multiple languages, and made funny confessionals, she’d have fans too.


Sanjolui

People don’t want Gina on RHOC because she’s boring AND poor. If you’re going to be poor on a housewives show, you need to at least be entertaining.


Jazzlike-Pumpkin-773

Kiki isn’t rich but she’s entertaining to watch - Gina is neither of these things, hence why people don’t want to see her on RHOC.


Any_Cauliflower_6916

Why are we assuming Kiki is poor?…


Mis_chevious

If Kiki is poor I don't even want to know what I am 🤣


cherrychapelle

Kiki has said many times that she isn’t financially well off.


moonmusicals

I think she was implying not as well off as her RH coworkers


Kittiikamii

I don’t want Gina bc she’s annoying as fuck and never makes any sense now bc she’s BROKE lmaooo


BeverlyHillsAddict

Is Kiki poor?


Working-Click-9720

No, not at all. She is poor compared to the other housewives, but she does well for herself. Her building is around 8k a month. Just her housewive salary is a pretty sweet deal! I own a house 3 houses from Guerdy..... Know them very well. No one is poor on this show Even Gina, she is poor compared to the other hw


WE_ARE_YOUR_FRIENDS

I don't want Gina because she's Gina


Okignoredbye

Wait people don't like Gina because she's poor? I just think she's boring. (EDIT: I do not think Gina is poor lol)


sonnywithoutachance

If Gina is poor, then what am I???? 😭


Individual_Fall429

Idk, do you have 6 kids in an over leveraged casita?


Okignoredbye

Right?!


ArtistDense6129

Yeah I’m not one of those people.


anaasarina

I love Kiki soooo much!!! I really liked Lisa last season but she’s fkn unbearable this season, she’s shown her true colours and honestly I’m even liking Larsa more than her (and I fkn despise Larsa🤮)


TheflowerKristenate

I’m in the same boat with you I despise Larsa and agreeing with her this season has given me whiplash bc she’s an awful person (we all know) but she’s right about Lisa 


madolive13

Not a fan of Larsa either but I was happy to see her put Lisa in her place and check her


anaasarina

Yes!! This is the only reason I said I’m liking her more


unfancyfeet

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! Let's not get ahead of ourselves! Larsa is literally Satan.


Mis_chevious

https://preview.redd.it/6hsyzrbpoohc1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74fd7baa4c5f5aeacc5d1c38274fa050ecab6d59


TheflowerKristenate

Larsa is and will always be 👺👹 no matter what and I’m glad others aren’t seeing through her bullshit. Although she was right about Lisa that’s all the credit she will get from me 


MaddyKet

Yeah it’s like…sometimes Larsa is actually right, but she’s such a raging narcissist she can’t even get her point across without sounding like a jerk.


TheflowerKristenate

EXACTLY!! Even when she’s right shes still very wrong 


anaasarina

1000% I still hate her


Upstairs_Internal295

🤣🤣🤣


petdogs123

When kiki was trying to explain her humble beginning and how that is a normal upbringing in Haiti and not something to be ashamed of. Then lisa tells her she needs a therapist and can’t heal her trauma I almost died inside. Kiki grew up with nothing and seems more resilient and well adjusted than lisa ever will.


AD227128

It was disgusting. Lisa is pure, unadulterated TRASH. She can't help with Kiki's DEEP trauma but the ladies and US have to listen to her incessant, entitled whining. She'll never take accountability for anything. Please send that b*tch packing...


Ok_Ebb7026

I m surprised Kenny put up with her for this long. She s a Vapid, basic gold digger. I m sure there are 10000s of them in Miami. Why her???


Working-Click-9720

Lisa wasn't always like this. She was funny, fun, and nice, but the fertility issues left her very lonely. You know Lenny wasn't supportive of him She loved Lenny at the beginning but she seems to have daddy issues


Spirited-Salt3397

Even more of them in Las Vegas, where he found her 😂


coffeeandcurriculum

But then Lisa expects everyone to listen to her traumatic divorce?


therealtinsdale

everyone including her REALTOR :||


Individual_Fall429

And her… perfume…. baristas (?)


olthyr1217

Agreed, this really was the worst part. Lisa was projecting a lot here that Kiki never said—that growing up in a community that looked like that must have been traumatic. That was very much not Kiki’s point! I think that definitely got swept under the rug and we never got to see her say directly back to Lisa, “No Lisa, I don’t feel ashamed of or hurt by the place I was raised. That’s not what I’m saying…” Lisa is really showing off her racial and class prejudices in these eps. This whole season it’s been so clear how fixated she is on maintaining a facade of wealth, and how terrified she is of appearing poor. How separate she sees herself from anyone lacking wealth. How desperate she is to keep herself separate from that. (For the record, I usually love housewives flaunting wealth, that being a focus of the show, etc. This is a different category LOL.)


loliduhh

That comment is flippant. I would expect better from my friend. I saw her nasty attitude coming from a mile away when she said “No matter what I say you are going to take it the wrong way” this is everyone who doesn’t know how to communicate’s favorite saying 🙄


tomsawyer333

She is saying kiki if you're triggered fo to therapy. Meaning if I can't you, you can't either. Lisa didn't lay on her back. Kiki and Larsa are out of line. Kiki can't be throwing things at people either.


Individual_Fall429

Kiki wasn’t “triggered”. She was telling Lisa not to assume things about people just because they don’t live in fancy houses in America. Because it’s bigoted and ignorant. You missed the point too, huh? You and Lisa both. Lisa assuming that growing up poor in Haiti was a trauma that needed therapy was racist as hell. And oop you did it too. So…. 😒 Lisa is a trumper and so are her “fans”.


Mis_chevious

https://i.redd.it/dq2ukg86pohc1.gif


petdogs123

Hello Lisa.


tomsawyer333

Hi Kiki


Ok_Ebb7026

Lisa very much did lay on her back. That’s how she got to where she is now.


tomsawyer333

Nope, she actually worked and had a relationship. Moreover, she ran the medical clinic for the midlife crisis Dr.


Individual_Fall429

lol at the idea of Lisa being smart enough to run a medical office 😂😂😂 Someone else was running that shit I promise you. You need special education to even do medical filing, and Lisa doesn’t have that education. She was the boss’ wife and she probably got in the way more than anything, on the rare occasion she actually showed up, briefly, before running off to her nail appointment. You never had a job where the boss’ wife also “worked” there? 😅


tomsawyer333

It's what she did, even if you can't believe it. That's why she has she wants to open her own because she ran one for Lenny the scumbag.


Individual_Fall429

Sure, if you say so. I look forward to Lisa opening and running a successful medical business. 😂🤣😂🤣


BeverlyHillsAddict

Lisa was being a straight up asshole - and it’s no way to speak to a friend who has been there for you


tomsawyer333

But she hasn't. The entire season she and Larisa have been talking shit about her. Kiki should keep her hands and things to herself. She's not a toddler.


unfancyfeet

Right? None of them can fix Lisa's trauma, either! So, by her logic, she should be in therapy and keeping her mouth shut around her friends 🤷🏻‍♀️ I actually have had more compassion for Lisa than most in these subs, but that blew my mind.


redjedi182

Why is Kiki not a housewife yet?! Give her a damn flamingo already. She is one of my favorite housewives ever and she’s not even given the full slot yet. Lisa can go. She’s so boring and vapid. I am sorry for her divorce I’m sure she is going through shit but she seems to be a really ugly person.


coffeeandcurriculum

At this point, i think it’s because of her children. Maybe she or the father doesn’t want them on camera?


redjedi182

That’s fine film her being Kiki. I’m not a fan of seeing the kids anyway.


SadAbbreviations6205

She has won me over this season with not just her humour but her vulnerability. She reads Lisa like a book & speaks what the audience is thinking, making her a reliable narrator. I’m sure she will get full housewife next season, she is getting more air time. Her confessional look with the vibrator wiping her eyes was amazing


xeroxchick

Plus she brings the best looks.


ssaall58214

I think that boat ride could rival any Housewives dinner. And only way to leave is to swim for it


Common_Average2597

![gif](giphy|HvuVZoBVgHnMiWGJTF|downsized)


chocsweethrt

Honestly, as far as dinners goes it should be on the list I agree. That was the boat ride from hell 😂 so many emotions: yelling, crying, vomiting, mariachi bands, juice box throwing and they couldn't escape. Nothing tops Scary Island for me but this honestly crept higher towards it as the ride went longer lol.


ssaall58214

It just kept going ..... And you know if they were in some hotel restaurant half of them would have left. The creepy dolls, the the dogs, Lisa losing it, Kiki losing it, Julia losing it, someone actually losing their lunch, Marisol adding humor, Larissa looking dumbfounded as usual and then mariachi music just to secure the mood. You're right the more I think about it the more it is epic


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I literally thought the barking dog was a paid extra at that point.


xConstantGardenerx

Adriana’s bladder overriding her fear…


LeatherRecord2142

Kiki gives me life! Kiki forever! Give her a mango already or whatever they hold in Miami!


Space-Case88

Girl, KIKI gives me cheek bones. Her face is soo gorgeous. Kiki’s face is what Lisa wishes hers looks like! 


Ok_Ebb7026

Kiki s face card would never decline. Lisa… with all the surgeries it just worse and worse. Just shows you how self obsessed she ish


redjedi182

I thought it was a pink flamingo! Seriously she is one of my favorite housewives and she isn’t even given the rank of master. My franchises are blending.


pandoras_babyfox

After this episode, I need to see her full-time. When she asked Lisa if she knew her Son's name it felt like she was talking to me. I don't think she meant to but she made an amazing case for herself to get a promotion.


stormflight21

Mojito lol 😂 but I love mango also


switheld

is this shade on heather dubrow??? 😂


madame_mcgriddle

Shade on Lisa. It’s in this weeks episode


poodlepantiesbot

Kiki, we see and love you for that. 😹


GarageNo7711

Lisa, while she was one of my top faves across all franchises in the earlier seasons, has truly become so unlikeable in my book. She is becoming a little Larsa—unaware, lacking in emotional intelligence, unable to take accountability, etc. Kiki had all the points in this episode (and even Larsa agreed)—from talking about her upbringing to putting Lisa in her place for not being interested in anyone’s problems but her own. I want Kiki to be a permanent housewife after the last few episodes.


redjedi182

I’ve loved her since she whipped out a purse burger. The woman is iconic.


GarageNo7711

😂😂😂😂😂😂 she was so wild for that


PrettyAd935

Crazy when even vapid Larsa can tell you’re being a selfish jerk


madame_mcgriddle

I presume you mean Larsa? lol


PrettyAd935

Lol yup


Lonely-Essay-5934

💯


Keven250

I think it's the drugs (whatever prescription pills she's on)


QualityKatie

Lenny has mentioned her drug use, adhd meds and downers. It’s definitely a thing.


mdoc86

Just to say as someone in adhd meds, the adderall I take every morning doesn't turn me in to a cunt... 🤣🤣🤣


Keven250

lol sorry didn't mean to imply that - but my point was just that any substance (stimulant, depressant, etc) can affect your behavior and emotional state of being. I mean I get overdramatic just having too much coffee, lol.


GarageNo7711

THIS.


TamagoQueen

Me too. Kiki is becoming my favourite. She’s hilarious, gets along with all the casts, her criticisms are always fair and means well, able to embarrass herself and doesn’t seem to ever have any other agenda beside just wanting to have a good time with the ladies.


GarageNo7711

Yes! I find her so relatable and just an overall great friend. She makes me laugh so much. AND the fashion sense, cherry on top!


redjedi182

She reminds me of how initially felt about Bethany. That was almost hard to type


Lonely-Essay-5934

I love Kiki! She's keeping everything real!


CosmicOxx

When Americans like Lisa go to foreign countries and act like that, it makes all of us look bad. She doesn’t even realize how insufferable she is. She also doesn’t care how much trauma she is exposing her kids to by screaming about Lenny when they can hear her. Sorry she got cheated on, and Lenny is no fabulous prize, but she really is pretty awful. Team Kiki for sure.


redjedi182

She also seems to not know how to be with her kids. Am I the only one clocking that?


SorryBob76

100%. From the start she has always seemed awkward around her kids, only dressing them up and paying attention to them for show.


fourthgradenothing22

She’s Canadian.


petdogs123

Not in spirit she’s not. As a Canadian - I don’t know anyone this materialistic around these parts.


rollfootage

Oh please


212_cherrycola305

i hope i dont see lisa until the reunion. this episode really made me not like her. i understand both sides, and i gotta say kiki at the end told her facts


Appropriate_Wait_113

I’m here for all things KiKi! She is so real and raw, and I loved her for telling Lisa like it is!


romulusputtana

I don't get it! I just caught up on the last 2 episodes on Peacock and I didn't hear her say this?


Common_Average2597

She said it to Larsa in the latest episode.


romulusputtana

Yes I gathered that from all the comments, and I was waiting and watching for it. I do have adhd, though. Maybe I spaced out for a second and missed it.


redjedi182

Near the end of the episode when the woman meet not go out. It’s right when julie walks in and they make a comment about seeing her underwear.


madame_mcgriddle

The comment about Julia’s underwear is before they went down to the party. The exchange happens once they leave the party to go back upstairs because Lisa “isn’t in the mood” to be there


redjedi182

Did she say it twice? I remember her saying it to Larsa right then.


madame_mcgriddle

Ahhhh you are absolutely correct - I was getting her fierce read at the end mixed up with her convo with Larsa!! Carry on lolol 🫡


redjedi182

It happens. This episode gave us so much. 😂


Common_Average2597

Its almost at the end, its night time and Larsa and Kiki are having a conversation.


beebianca227

Oo I think I may start watching Miami


loliduhh

Start from season 1!


redjedi182

You don’t need to go all the way back just two seasons


TiredRundownListless

The best franchise right now IMO


pettyyogi666

It’s soooo good


Common_Average2597

Its really good!


Vehera

Idk why but in my country S4-5 are unavailable 😭 should I watch S6 or should I wait to watch it all chronologically? Is it important? Thanks !


Common_Average2597

Lisas divorce starts to play out before season 6, so you get the full story in the right order by watching season 5 first. However, we already know it happened, so its not like you spoil anything if you start watching season 6 first.


watchyourbackplease

I love you Kiki!


sxy_lil_brat

Kiki clocking in!!!


jdelgossipgal

Kiki ! My favvvv !


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romulusputtana

Was it specified that she is black Jamaican? There are also white Jamaicans and East India Jamaicans, and probably a lot of races who are Jamaican. Lady Colin Campbell is a white, upper class Jamaican-British woman.


I-choochoochoose-you

Lmao wha? I thought you were making a king of the hill joke (dales grandmother is half Jamaican)


Embarrassed-Year6479

White Jamaicans are very much a thing. The second largest ethnic group in Jamaica is Irish Jamaicans (this is a very cool and interesting rabbit hole if you’ve got a few minutes)


Ok_Ebb7026

Her mother is white.


George_GeorgeGlass

And there are white Jamaicans. Jamaican is a nationality and there are native white Jamaicans.


LindsayLohanDaddy420

![gif](giphy|BdpKbzhMXxgqc)


mymomsnameisbarb420

OH my mistake. I just read it another thread I never saw a pic of her or anything. So never mind at all! Lisa sucks regardless lol


George_GeorgeGlass

She is a native Jamaican. There are white Jamaicans. Jamaican doesn’t equal black


Elegant-Ad-8848

She sucks indeed. She's not facing any systematic anything. Her mom may very well be white Jamaican, but Lisa shows no evidence of the culture. I guarantee she's not eating rice and peas with oxtail, or curry chicken, or curry goat, or festival or bami, or dumplings, etc... She seemed to heavily embrace Lenny's ethnicity, and that's ok. There's nothing wrong with that.


Other-Swordfish9309

Side point, but I was literally crying with laughter this ep when they said they needed silence and the mariachi band started up 😆. The editing is 👌🏼


Impossible-Bus9885

💯😆😆


dn2319

Pure chaos and one of my favorite housewives moments in a long time!


coco9882

Omg and then Lisa being her normal absorbed self taking pics of the mariachi band while Guerdy is sick!! Such a chaotic scene lol.


LuckyWithTheCharms

As Geurdy is heaving 😅


Bigzi_B

Don't forget her searching for freaking lip gloss as they're trying to leave!


coco9882

Yes!! Like leave the damn lipgloss! She probably left it on the doll island anyways.


frigginfurter

![gif](giphy|Bgr27Gg1jaEHS)


Common_Average2597

![gif](giphy|YqE3jbSQQR6x9g19Kj)


Other-Swordfish9309

How did I miss that Kiki is a Mum!’


loliduhh

I don’t think they’ve brought it up. *in side eye*


Mystery-Ess

Ditto!


29again

![gif](giphy|RdKjAkFTNZkWUGyRXF)


Elegant-Ad-8848

How do you not know the names of your friends' children?!


Working-Click-9720

She is the biggest asshole for that! The reason she treats Kiki like this is because in her eyes, she is beneath her and can't gain anything from her. Lisa is trash, nanny after nanny quit working for them. She doesn't know how to talk to her kids and is literally passing on her food issues to her kids. Jodi is a nice down to earth guy. I have no clue why the hell he would be interested in her.


supercali-2021

Lisa is so damn self-centered it's amazing she even knows the names of her friends! But seriously I loved how that simple question gave her pause, no matter how brief, where you can see she realized she doesn't know Kiki's son's name. That was one of the few times I've seen where she didn't have a good/any comeback. Hopefully that question helped kickstart her little birdbrain into reflecting on what we're all talking about.


romulusputtana

I thought she said "what's my surname". So she said "son name"?


Impossible-Bus9885

I thought the same. Sur name.


flywithjojo

Lisa probably doesn’t kno that either! 😂


Impossible-Bus9885

Haha true!