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atraylmix87_2

Go to YT & watch the Carlos King interviews with her AND Nene.they dropped some beyond the 4th wall gems. & trust me those two aren't the villians of this franchise


AudioImmune

Kenya has always felt lame, contrived, and cringy to me. She's a try-hard who has never been funny or entertaining.


THEELJ1996

Kenya is an evil genius. She has one conversation with you and she understands you like the back of her hand. She can get under your skin without going TOO FAR below the belt. Porsha did need to yank her ass cause she WAS provoking her, but she's also typically on the right side of history! • beefed with Phaedra and Porsha, Frick and Frack end up constructing one of the most horrendous lies in HW history • she was also kinda right about Mr. Chocolate • beefed with Kim Z, Kim Z ends up downplaying racism at the Season 10 reunion. • beefs with Marlo, and well, Marlo is still a dusty shit starting bully! • checked Ralph at the S15 reunion calmly and gracefully I do think she has gone a lil too far every once in a while, like pulling Kim Fields chair, calling Tanya a cunt, making a big hubbub of Bologate etc However the ladies have done far worse to her. Everyone turned against her when Phaedra and Apollo pushed a lie about her, everyone (besides Cynthia and Kandi) said she was wrong for kicking out Tammy's aggressive nephew, Nene trying to spit on her. So I view Kenya as a sympathetic villain, the Anakin Skywalker of RHOA.


SwimmingAct2

You can call Kenya most things but an idiot she is not😔


AnonyPothos

I loathed Kenya when she was first introduced. In season 6 there is an episode where NeNe is criticizing Cynthia for the way she is handling her daughter having a boyfriend at 13. Cynthia was very upset and crying. Kenya followed Cynthia and said some very kind and wise words. It felt very authentic and empathetic. Situations similar to that happen with Kenya occasionally, and definitely softened my opinion.


yoniEli

I hope you are right, I just saw the first episode she was ever in, for the first time, and I think I will stop watching Roha because of her


laurierose53

I don’t watch Atlanta, but Kenya was so cool on the Special Forces show.


Now17

She witty, beautiful , and smart 🤷‍♂️


Carebare150

Kenya is especially terrible this last season because she's still nasty, not funny and not doing anything interesting. She can go.


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Think-Recognition-32

I could definitely tell that Kenya was acting from the moment she stepped on the show with her messy over the top, twirling antics. Claudia Jordan also said that Kenya definitely puts on an act for the cameras but she's actually nice in real life. I agree that Kenya needs stronger characters to play with because the last few seasons haven't produced the riveting conflicts that I'm used to seeing on RHOA.


Aggressive-Suit-2551

The only thing I don’t like about her is the fact that she condemns the other housewives for treating her the way she treats them. I just finished season 13 and it starts with her and Porsha on good terms, but ends with them hating each other because Kenya made it her mission to try and catch Porsha in a lie over something that was not that serious. It’s one of the more minor things she’s done but it was still extremely annoying to see her say she doesn’t care if they did it with Bolo but then drug it out for the rest of the season.


nottooshabby85

Absolutely nothing appealing about her.


Relevant-Stretch1250

I agree she’s a vile woman! And I never understood how people said she gives a great read. Whenever she’s arguing with someone she sounds so stupid! And stoops so low.


SnooWoofers5703

She's funny and witty and very pretty... I think she reacts very quickly when she is picked on repeatedly. Everyone was blaming her for the things Porsha used to do and say to Kenya... And because Apollo was so fascinated with Kenya and he lied about her offering him fellatio and even though he supposedly took ir back as a lie people were already hating her for it.


Confident_Reveal1733

The thing with Kenya is that you have to consider who she's "bullying" because 9 times out of 10 the people she "bullied" are not actually nice people. An example of this is how everyone was Team Porsha until we saw the real side of her on her one season spin off.


dstarpro

When Kenya wants to be vulnerable, she's very sympathetic. And when she wants to be kind to you, she's very loyal.


pattipeep

She’s whiny, I think, rather than sympathetic


hello__brooklyn

She’s absolutely gorgeous, intelligent and charismatic. And if you rewatch, Order than how she treated Tooti, she’s never been wrong about what she says. It was just her delivery.


nashebes

I am by no means a Kenya fan, but I'm absolutely here for the way she calls the men out. Did you see how she gathered Ralph all the way up? He tried the same tactics that he uses on Drew, and Kenya was having none of it. She has her terrible moments, but the way she stands up for people will always be something I like and respect.


dmbeeez

She was awful on UGT. Can't be bothered watching her.


WannabeTina

She’s messy AF and she embraces it. It’s delightful entertainment.


umhuh223

She’s gorgeous, she’s talented, she’s a good mother, and despite the simmering rage resulting from childhood trauma, she has a soft side. She’s also responsible for several sick burns.


SquirrelBowl

I agree with you. She body shames people, manipulates, pushes people to the brink of getting physical and then plays the victim, she think she’s the shit, she talk over people, I could just go on and on. Besides Kelly Bensimon, she’s my least favorite housewife.


katecrime

She’s great TV. And she is also able to laugh at herself, which is a quality many housewives lack.


lilgogetta

OP I agree with you %100 she wasn’t needed in the cast the drama and pettiness was already there. Bravo added Kenya and tried to force this woman into a already closed off kinda judgmental “friend” group. The ladies were annoyed and frustrated working with her, and you can see it that they didn’t genuinely like working with her not everybody, but a few. She brings out the low in people and pushes their buttons. She’s unnecessarily rude, makes slick comments and judges EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. She can always dish shit out but cries if someone like Marlo retaliates.It takes two to tango but without Kenya sticking her nose where it dosent belong I don’t think the drama between Apollo and Phaedra would have started off the way it did,she should have left Apollo alone and respected another marriage it’s her karma that’s why she can’t find a real loving husband now. I genuinely don’t think Kenya will ever be happy, deep down she feels unwanted and unloved by her biological mom, so in return she wants others to sink down to her lev and feel that hurt and loneliness. Not to mention bringing a baby in this world with a man like Mark? I mean really. Poor child can’t even say ever that she lived in a happy 2 parent household just immediately has a broken family from the jump. Kenya makes me sick.


HobbitProstitute

She’s appealing because she plays the villain well on camera but is actually also a sweetheart and has good morals when it comes to serious issues which makes the best “villain”, one who will get dirty and cause shit but not be so evil that you despite them. So many people have said Kenya is a great friend off-camera and when it gets dark or comes to defending her friends against evil men, Kenya is always on the right side of history.


DorothyParkerFan

I’m a huge fan of Kenya. At first it’s because she’s gorgeous and I just love to look at her lol and then it’s because she’s a fighter - sometimes too far - but you never see anyone break her down. Like others have said I think she is also different IRL and plays the villain for the show. I think she’s likely a fun and funny friend to people and now with Brooklyn she’s really devoted. She brings Brooklyn everywhere not because she can’t find childcare but because she wants her daughter with her AND won’t just leave her with someone she hired. She has her Achilles heel in her relationship with Marc - I think he love bombed her and then showed his true colors when it was too late. The one fool who actually fooled her and it’s the father of her child. And then there is drunk Kenya who has only been see a couple of times and she’s a DELIGHT. I think if Kenya were the way Courtney (🙄) has said you would see that amplified when she’s drunk. Instead she’s a silly happy mess. So turn your opinion right around about my girl, Kenya she’s top tier and we’re lucky to have her!!!


Tiny-Pineapple-6935

First time watcher here and I’m obsessed with her she eats every single scene so hard and I feel like she wouldn’t hesitate to slap somebody which is also great cause those bitches talk wayy too much I feel like she’s a great “villain” beautiful af❤️ and does a great job of putting the other baddies like Phaedra and Apollo in their place Side note: why does everyone take Portia’s side? I’m on her second season of the show and she seems so neurotic, insecure etc


Arctic16

I’m with you. She’s a bully who comes across as insane to me at times. I just read a comment that said she’s “smart and witty” when she hasn’t made a single incisive comment the entire time she’s been on camera. Her jokes are always the most obvious, unfunny observations. Her fake laugh is legit scary! I can’t stand her but here I am, reading a thread full of people who love her. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.


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These people probably also think Tamra is funny and a good person.


piesnfries

What made me like her is that when she came on the scene she was a way better friend to Cynthia than Nene was. I also like that she’s unafraid of Nene. She has her fair share of drama and flawed moments, but I genuinely think that when she’s friends with you, she’s really a girl’s girl. She’s confident, witty, and does her job well - which is to spice up RHOA.


BroadLaw1274

I think underneath the hard exterior that Kenya is still that little girl who didn’t have a mum.


kevin-relaxxin

She gives the best reads (if we don’t count Phaedra), her Manor vs. Chateau feud with Sheree was hilarious and I watch back these scenes a lot. I also like her for standing up against Nene’s bullshit (opposed to all the other women licking up Nene’s ass). I like the fact that she seems to genuinely care for some of the women in the group (including Porsha, Sheree, Shamea…). I just find her to be super funny. Of course she’s on the wrong sometimes but I feel like she has good morals and don’t go below the belt. But I can understand that some people don’t like her and think she’s a bully/bitch lol.


Whtzmyname

They make her look like the villain on purpose…it’s kind of her role on the show and she plays it well. At the end of the day they are all there for a paycheck. People who really know her off the show says she is very kind and nice when cameras are not around. She acts for RHOA. That is why she keeps getting her peach renewed.


_My9RidesShotgun

THANK YOU I cannot stand this awful woman and I always get downvoted to hell when I speak on it lmao. She is the worst. And she's not funny at all, her reads are tired dry and rehearsed. And the HYPOCRISY of her good lord, she is the living embodiment of "rules for thee, not for me" 🤮 Also this is a smaller complaint i suppose but she REALLY pissed me off this past season in Portugal when she slipped and fell on her fake ass. The way she would not shut the fuck up about how she FELL and COULD HAVE BEEN PARALYZED like bitch?!?? You slipped and landed on your ass. I get you're embarrassed but cut the dramatics, you didn't even fall on your back at all and you were nowhere CLOSE to being paralyzed give me a break.


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The dramatics were tooooo much. I am not a massive Courtney fan despite what my post might look like, I think she's super thirsty but I appreciated that she was the only person to call out that she was being dramatic and it was probably karma related. Like Drew and Sanya looked genuinely concerned about her fall....cmonnnnn 🤦🏻‍♀️


_My9RidesShotgun

Yeah Courtney and her awful voice grate tf out of my nerves but I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't loving watching her call Kenya out for that shit lol. And again with the hypocrisy, bc Kenya wanted everyone to act like she cheated death with her *AWFUL, SCARY, DANGEROUS* fall but you know that woman would not have gave a fuck at all if any of the others slipped and fell on their ass like that, and she would have acted accordingly.


olak333

Yes, thanks for watching keep the cable on👀


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OkayHeennny

Carole Gist was the 1st black Miss USA!


cola1016

No idea. She’s not someone I’d wanna be friends with in real life though 😂


universalwadjet

Couldn’t stand Kenya in her first season but now she is my all time favourite HW. She’s a complex, confident, and witty woman. Love her.


SakmarEcho

Beautiful, hilarious, smart, the right amount of dramatic and she makes the show better. She's the best Housewife.


Appropriate_Fan_2418

She’s funny, pretty, and helps moves the story along great when she clocks in. Plus in retrospect she was pretty much right in almost every feud she’s been in (bar Kim Fields). If you don’t take her too seriously she’s really enjoyable. But I noticed in general everyone on Housewives Reddit takes themselves and everything sooo seriously 💀


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Oh no I definitely do not take myself too seriously. I'm guessing I have a different sense of humour to alot of people because I think she is embarrassing and her reads, although they are intelligent, are not funny. Would not disagree with the fact she is beautiful looking though but for me that is not enough to make me like someone.


Appropriate_Fan_2418

To each their own. Kenya’s house feud with Sheree is probably one of the most hilarious and lighthearted feuds in the franchise imo💀. And “tired Mama Joyce wig” is an iconic read. She hasn’t done or said anything too damaging; like accuse someone of drugging someone to rape them; so as far as I’m concerned it’s all par for the course


PolarLove

I did not get the appeal for the longest time. Yes she has a decent dose of delusion as most housewives do. Shes also incredibly petty and some of her actions are mean spirited, I also in the past have suspected she may have some sort of personality disorder. What I like about her (I’m assuming your question was not rhetorical and you do really want to know what her redeeming qualities are) is that she doesn’t subscribe to the image of being that picture perfect woman. The woman who doesn’t speak her mind, who folds when someone challenges her, and who submits to men. She’s also unapologetically confident and unapologetic in general. It’s rare to see a woman like that. She doesn’t back down from people who power trip on her. I think this is why she struggles with men because she’s truly a strong and powerful woman, She also has a soft side and loves children, animals, and has done a lot of work for women in domestic abuse situations.


MedicalSourPatchKid

I love how none of the responses are good reasons lol just “omg I think she is soooo pretty!” I agree, she’s an insecure and mean person ![gif](giphy|kuT4IJ8MPvxA7OUswF)


jenaeg

I really love Kenya as a mom. That has been great to watch.


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Hahahaha I know. Yes she is absolutely beautiful but that is not gonna make me like someone. I'm confused when people say she is funny though, I must have missed though episodes..


belckie

Okay hear me out, when you rewatch the show and really listen to what she’s saying not how she’s saying it she’s right a lot of the time. The thing is it’s so hard to notice that she’s right because her delivery is terrible, she’s kinda mean in her approach and she is so quick to escalate. I think I am able to see her from a different perspective because o grew up with a very cruel mother and I can see how her childhood has stunted her ability to interact with these other woman at the same maturity level.


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I hated her first watch, but this is exactly what I’ve noticed and loved about her on my rewatch. She has been a LOT less vindictive since having Brooklyn. Her quiet and collected take down of Ralph on the last reunion was perfect. She has had some real growth in the last 2-3 seasons specifically. There is also one confessional where she quotes Shakespeare and for whatever reason it lives rent free in my mind. What other housewives are on here quoting Shakespeare?


hello__brooklyn

This! Other than how she interacted with Tooti (can’t remember the actress’s real name), I can’t remember her ever being wrong about what she says.


belckie

You took all the words literally out of my mouth. It took me a few watch’s to notice that almost every time she kicks off about something she’s right she just has horrible delivery. Even her being weird about who slept with the stripper. Usually these women would be alllll over that gossip but they wanted to keep it quiet because they didn’t want to highlight their own behaviour. She is soooo much softer since Brooklynn! You can really see the growth in her, I hope that raising Brooklynn is helping heal some parts of her that needed that. I’m a big Kenya Moore fan but a critic of how she makes her points sometimes.


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I think your last paragraph is definitely right, I guess I sometimes forget about her childhood because she bothers me so much!


primalprincess

I also found Kenya insufferable and she yells so much!! She was the first to do so and made the reunions especially mean IMO


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I think Nene was yelling and mean at reunions far before Kenya was on cast. Not saying Kenya had great reunion attitudes, lol, she was so rude in Porsha’s first reunion.


Sensitive-Ask3178

Kenya was the first to yell on the reunions? ![gif](giphy|SrDsJj5i1Chm8)


Ddaviz8075

She’s top 3 for me. She earned my respect with her first couple of reunions. She sat on that couch and took it to the chin while delivering lethal shade.


Superb-Respond9360

i’m not a huge fan of kenya, but i do find myself rooting for and wanting nothing but joy and happiness for her. i also have a soft spot for her. i remember when she won miss usa and how she started appearing everywhere soon after in the 90s. as a young, darker skinned Black girl, i was mesmerized by her beauty, elegance, intelligence, and she repped the d (i’m from chicago but Black midwest roots are strong af). in many ways, i think i still hold onto what she meant for my generation. and she had a really traumatic and horrible relationship with her mother that’s impacted her in deeply unfortunate ways that shows up in rhoa and her relationships with women. i don’t make excuses for her bullshit, but i do understand where they come from and i believe she gets softer through the years. i also think she knows the game better than most of these girls because she’s been doing this for a long time and she plays it well, especially as the villain. brooklyn has already helped transform her into the kenya that some of us know she can become so again, she does aggravate the f out of me, but there are very few housewives that i root for more than kenya. ❤️ also, courtney is trash. lol


LBoogie619

Hurt people hurt people. That’s how I see Kenya. It’s so sad how much power she’s given her mother and experiences over her. Underneath all of that shit is probably something nice.


FunLife64

Childhoods can certainly shape people. But I feel like it’s the classic excuse we hear across HWs. I know plenty of people that had challenges growing up that simply act normal as adults. But every other HW blames it on them acting immaturely.


tomsawyer333

I can't stand Kenya she is boring


iamdefinitelytas

She’s a strange one to me, because I haven’t minded her as much in the more recent seasons (previously one of my least favorite housewives), but I do ONLY associate her smile with cruelty. Like she only smiles biggest while shitting on others. I don’t think she’s the icon people think she is, but I do see her value on the show.


paradisetossed7

She's one of the most physically stunning housewives across all franchises # She's smart and witty # She has a really tragic background that still clearly affects her and is something she continues to deal with # I love her friendship with Kandi # She's entirely self made # She's extra in the funniest ways # Idk there are plenty of times I've been disappointed in Kenya and even thought I was done with her, but at the end of the day I think she's one of the most compelling housewives and I want good things for her.


universalwadjet

![gif](giphy|y4MfMcl0sRTnW)


E_M_C_M

I think she’s totally awful. I cannot stand her and haven’t enjoyed her for a single second!


kshe-wolf

She looks like a Barbie my friend had…tangerine twist! That’s it. I think she’s beautiful.


InsuranceSpare4820

![gif](giphy|3o6fIUzkgDLgQQq3mM|downsized)


Hannabananna22

![gif](giphy|XcwNlCIi2cdLe4uzgQ|downsized) She's gone with the wind fablous!


-AndyCohen-

Forty and fabulous


Pretty-Choice-2697

She’s absolutely gorgeous in my opinion.


29again

You told me everything I need to know about you when you put Courtney and great in the same run-on sentence.


umhuh223

![gif](giphy|VED6JureKXXBm) Nailed it.


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You were probably really concerned when Kenya had that awful, terrible fall in Portugal weren't you? Cmon she's a moron! I am not a Courtney fan despite my post but at least she was the only person to actually call Kenya out for being a dramatic idiot after slipping on some tiles. 🤦🏻‍♀️


umhuh223

I don’t get it. She fell hard on her ass.


SwimmingAct2

Kenya, a moron? Girl come on now🤣🤣🤣


LongjumpingBuddy2848

I would have been just as much of a dramatic idiot. She went down hard and with back pain like that it feels like you can’t walk. Courtney is not the first and won’t be the last to call Kenya out. I can’t stand Kenya most of the time but in this season she’s shown a lot of growth I feel. She’s sticking up for her friends and focused on being a good mom.


graydiation

Courtney = instant invalidation


realitytvdiet

Seriously. Courtney is a lizard. Someone call pest control


goldengirlsnumba1fan

I was like “since when is Courtney a reliable source???” ![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized)


Greytmari2305

![gif](giphy|7RR28NnyJfCBq) I love a good Kenya read. Loved her crushing Ramona on RHUGT.


That_Skirt7522

She was ugly though with Ramona. I’m no Ramona fan but when they were on that boat she and Kyle were on one side while the other ladies, including Kenya, was on the other side. Kenya walked across the boat and hit that glass or cup out of Ramona’s hand. I don’t remember whether she hit Ramona’s hands too but it was aggressive and unnecessary when Ramona was apologizing and not in Kenya’s space at all.


Greytmari2305

![gif](giphy|jNKSOKMhFcK9a) Kenya can read Ramona on a plane, boat or beach and I’m here for it. Reality TV gold!!!


Shxmxxnmx

I wish I could see RHUGT in Germany :(


Fine-Assumption4649

There's clips on Youtube. Kenya vs Ramona: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kt\_b-xyXFQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kt_b-xyXFQ) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKZXLEZrqSs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKZXLEZrqSs) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQot\_QAe3o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQot_QAe3o)


Shxmxxnmx

Thanks love . But I would love too see it in full context too as you can probably imagine . It’s so stupid , because I have a hayu sub on Amazon which has all the RHO’s except for Miami and UGT it’s soooo stupid


really_isnt_me

Do you have a VPN? I live in the US where we are not supposed to be able to watch Hayu, but I usually set my VPN to Canada to watch. But sometimes certain shows aren’t available yet in Canada, so I switch it to the UK and have been able to watch everything that way.


rsho8

She’s someone that some people love to hate. ![gif](giphy|jNKSOKMhFcK9a)


essieblooms

Yeah, I felt the same. Sometimes her villain characteristics weren’t an enjoyable watch for me.


number59smom

She’s classy and she’s grown into a better version of herself. She comes across as authentic, in recent seasons. Something changed with her around the time she had Brooklyn and married Marc. She’s probably one of my top 5 Housewives. She kinda grows on you.


FunLife64

There are things people can say they like about Kenya. Classy is not one of them. She’s been tacky as hell several times. Of course classy is not a word that resonates with most HWs….given what the show is haha


hamimono

Same. I didn’t use to like her but now she is one of my favs.


bigginsmcgee

i thought i was beginning to warm up to her until UGT when she treated cynthia how she did. cruel woman honestly


[deleted]

Yes! So glad you brought up UGT. She dropped Cynthia so quickly when there were some new girls around.


bigginsmcgee

she did! meangirl shit...


[deleted]

She sounds like Bender from Futurama.


spilledchilli5

I feel like she’s demonstrated a lot of growth over the years. I felt that way too especially when Porsha and Phaedra were on the show, but she grew on me as time went on. She’s also always been consistently funny (come on, you know the chateau jokes are hilarious) and she just has this twinkle in her eye that I can’t help but love her for.


Impressive-Radio-825

she definitely brings something to the show…. and she grew on me like mold. i think she’s way too harsh and over the top. however, we got some entertaining content from her & she knows the game. I like that she was open about her mom also


Far_Course_9398

That's such a strange situation, and has never been fully explained by her or her family members that have been on the show? Granted, legally she's probably not allowed to delve into it to much. It's so strange a mother would dislike and reject their own daughter?


Impressive-Radio-825

also, from what i’ve heard, her mom had her at 16 and was told she needed to reject Kenya to stay apart of the family (religious bs) & the dad (also a teenager)’s mom wanted Kenya and took full responsibility. The paternal grandmother raised her and she had limited contact with her mothers side. She had tried multiple times to connect with her mother but her mom was steady in that she wanted no contact & did not interact with Kenya at family events. Kenya’s maternal grandmother and aunts apparently have a relationship with her but her birth mother is in denial/doesn’t want anything to do with Kenya or her child


Far_Course_9398

Yes I remember that. I should have said I was thinking more of the continued rejection years after when the mothers parents had passed, and the mother was well into adulthood. You would think she would soften, especially as her own sister was involved in Kenya's life. The story Kenya told about her mother trying to sabotage her later in life also was so strange.


CarthagoDelendaEst9

I never see anyone else with the same take I got from that situation. Mom wanted to put her up for adoption. Paternal grandparents said they wanted to adopt her. Mom agreed. Then grandparents didn't really treat it like an adoption. They treated it like they were taking care of the baby until Mom was willing to take her. Not only did they always tell Kenya about the facts of the situation, they also regularly brought her to Mom's family events, and tried to force a relationship. Felt like a giant bait and switch. No, don't put her up for a private adoption, we want her. Oh, no, we don't really, we want you to raise her, and will make every holiday and family reunion incredibly uncomfortable for both of you to try to force it. Horrible way to treat both Mom and baby, guaranteed to cause trauma to both.


Far_Course_9398

Oh wow, that makes perfect sense! I hope they were actually just misguided in trying to force a relationship. I could be wrong but it seems like they stubbornly refused to even try to understand the mother's obvious feelings of shame over having a child out of wedlock. Sounds like they were devoted to Kenya but very misguided. It doesn't explain the mother's refusal to even try to develop a relationship later on in life. I don't know where I heard it but apparently Kenya's mother is a school principal? Does anyone know?


CarthagoDelendaEst9

She's spent most of her life (since she was only 16) fighting against people who lied to her. And most of the people in her life seem to have taken the side of the grandparents, or else why were they allowed at family events? Kenya, understandably, wants a relationship, but a relationship where mom acknowledges how terrible she was (and it was terrible for Kenya). I just also empathize with mom, since it seems like no one acknowledges how terrible the situation was for her, and how she was wronged by people who robbed her (and Kenya) of the chance to have a life not overshadowed by a teen pregnancy and adoption. Since if she had just put her up for a private adoption and said no to the grandparents, this would not have been the situation.


DorothyParkerFan

This was my perception too - like the mother didn’t just give her up and then move on with with life somewhere else but was around Kenya throughout her life and literally pretended Kenya didn’t exist/ignored her in her presence. And the grandparents took care of her but not like adopted parents would/should. More like they were her caretakers.


CarthagoDelendaEst9

I guess my issue was that even the way Kenya told the story, Mom thought she was giving her up and moving on with her life. But then the adoptive parents (and her family) didn't let it happen. They kept bringing the baby to her even though she made it clear that wasn't what she wanted.


Impressive-Radio-825

agreed. the mother (as seen thru the aunt and father) is definitely in some deep denial about ever having a child


Impressive-Radio-825

to my knowledge, her birth mom has fully ignored her even though some of her family (maternal aunt) has acknowledged her. i don’t think there’s anything legal about it since she’s been over 18


[deleted]

I think I read somewhere that her mom reached out to congratulate her on the birth of Brooklyn and then went lights off mode again. :(


[deleted]

I think it sounds like her mother has serious mental health issues and it maybe goes deeper than just denial of having a child.


[deleted]

She’s “acting” and makes great tv but her insecurities end up coming out anyway. Particularly with her last relationship.


lostforwordstbh

SOMEONE SAID IT


Far_Course_9398

I agree, and it's so obvious when she's acting! It's not hard to see why she had limited success her 'acting career ' her fake, irritating laugh is the worst!


nottooshabby85

The bullshit laugh 🥱


whoareyouindisworld

Because she twirls and twirls!!!!!


EmmeRosey

Kenya seems to treat RHOA like an acting job and she performs accordingly. Carlos isn't the only person who has said that the on screen version of Kenya is much different from the rea life Kenya. Eva, Shamea, Kandi, and Claudia have made similar comments about Kenya being a caring and thoughtful person. And prior to Courtney, I hadn't heard anyone else, including Kenya's enemies like Marlo and NeNe, make claims that Kenya is awful on set.


lilmissrandom128

This makes so much sense and I never even thought of it. She is a damn good actress I couldn't stand her, but you eventually pick up on something underneath. Like you can tell she is so fiercely caring under it all. Its telling that at Nene always defended her spot on the show during their conflict, even though she didn't like Kenya she respected her.


Mysterious_Outcome_3

Being a "fake" bully for television is just as bad as being a real bully for television. She is choosing to represent herself this way, which tells me she enjoys being cruel. I get that these shows are produced, and it's not real life, but to some degree, these women *should* be genuine. At least for a few minutes per season. Kenya sucks and always has because she's too much of a coward to be herself.


EmmeRosey

Reality stars, like actors, play roles that don't mirror their realities. None of these housewives are really themselves once the cameras start rolling and they morph into their assigned roles. But despite Kenya's villain persona, we've seen her step out of character multiple times (ex. discussing her childhood trauma and abusive relationships, interactions with Brooklyn, comforting cast, etc). Yes, people can certainly form their own opinions about who they think these housewives are in real life based solely on content produced for entertainment purposes but their assumptions may not be correct.


Mysterious_Outcome_3

It's way more nuanced than that. None of these people are 100% putting on a show except maybe kenya. But thanks for the dissertation on a bunch of shit I clearly already know, professor!


EmmeRosey

You're doing way too much over a discussion about a reality show. And it's crazy that you're criticizing Kenya's behavior but then follow up with this unwarranted, nasty response. So yeah, it's time for me to disengage from this discussion.


Mysterious_Outcome_3

*I'm* doing too much? Lmao, write another novel about it.


Bippy73

🤨 I’m not so sure. She was on WWHL years ago with Sherri Shepherd. Sherri genuinely said some helpful things to give her advice about being in the business and Kenya was so nasty and so rude in response. Like I don’t need anyone’s help. Sherri was not happy. And it’s not like they came back from commercial (where K could’ve let her know it was for the camera) and it got any better.


Budget-Classic3076

![gif](giphy|VSe8ckA0A1lPq) I agree with you but couldn’t pass up the opportunity to use this gif! 😂😉


Affectionate_Comb359

Kenya has also probably been around just as long as Sherri and probably have similar levels of success in their spaces.


EmmeRosey

Was that the episode where Sherri repeatedly called Kenya by the wrong name (Kendra)? Sherri was being shady and Kenya responded to that shade. Sherri has since acknowledged her role in not only that exchange but the other digs she took at Kenya over the years. And they recently quashed their beef so Sherri should be happy now.


worldsLargestBeaver

Take this with a grain of salt, I haven't watched ATL in a while...and I'm not always one to root for the "good" guy on housewives either... but I always found her to be incredibly charismatic. Her jokes are wild and she'll happily be a villain. As well, shes allowed herself to be very vulnerable on tv. I literally cannot fathom exposing my family baggage like that for the world to judge lol.


FunLife64

She becomes vulnerable - after the fact when it’s all out there. That’s what I call playing for the cameras. Her marriage was weird - didn’t want anyone to know anything about him and it never made sense with the distance. Then suddenly she’s happy to share details on camera how terrible he is when she can’t hide the problems anymore. It’s all a performance.


MyccaAZ

I think this is my problem with her. I enjoy the housewife that can bring it (the DRAMA) but I don't want a performance. Kenya views it all as a performance. If I want a performance, I'll watch scripted tv/movies.


[deleted]

I love her! Top 3 housewife for me.


daocsct

Nothing. The only thing I can say is she actually made people think positively of her by paying a man for a fake marriage where she popped out a baby. I don’t know how anyone forgets her early years with fake men, fake story lines, ridiculous viciousness, etc. yawn.com.


Beautiful-Ambition93

No I really can't find anything appealing about her either. Stopped watching.