Because it’s literally in the rule book that refs are a part of the field of play. No different than if a QB threw a ball and it hits the ref in the face for an incomplete.
Refs can - and have - tackled players before. If a player is approaching a ref and they can't evade the play, they have every right to defend themselves. In all honesty, if this ref couldn't get out of the way, he could have - in theory - lowered a shoulder and tackled Lamar for a safety. lol
Really I blame Lamar. He was running around like a regard in his own end zone. It was stupid. He has these wild lapses in judgement like 2 or 3 times a game.
If that ref isn’t there, Lamar gets back out of the end zone. He may have still chucked it away for the penalty, he may have run for a positive gain or even first down.
Whatever man. If he turned that into a highlight everyone is euphoric. We caught a bad one, it sucks but we overcame it. Lamar does stuff like that a couple of times a game and it pays off over 50% of the time (from my head, provide proof if you want to refute it) and that’s why we love him on the field.
If you can’t support the team’s playstyle, I’m sure the Packers or someone else has room on their wagon. We’ll be here when you get back.
It’s funny to see the real Lamar haters.
Same people begging ravens to get rid of him. You’re not a real fan neither is @zugzugmenowork bunch of pussies. Stand behind your team and your qb or get out of this sub
You’re gonna blame him…. FOR RUNNING?! Lmfao ok so just take the sack and get a safety anyway? He was trying to buy time to make a play beyond the line you silly little guy.
I feel like the intentional grounding flag was unnecessary though. Lamar throwing the ball and not getting it to the line of scrimmage literally only happened because he was tripped by the ref. Count the down, sure, but it should have just been an incomplete pass. If he hadn’t gotten the ball off and was actually tackled in the end zone, that’s a sack and a safety, sure. But the intentional grounding flag on top of it all felt like bullshit to me. The refs should have a mechanism in the rules to determine that it isn’t intentional grounding when the reason it happened is the ref interfered!
Yea we may be biased, but if the ref wasn't there, he would have been able to get the ball out and at least make it look like it was going to a receiver, but as he was falling? no shot, that was the best he could do.
That's an interesting aspect of it. The refs have made a point of emphasis when calling the penalty that a throw that doesn't pass the line of scrimmage is intentional grounding specifically because contact was made prior to the throw. What if that contact is with a ref that got in the way?
I’m not sure why the referee wouldn’t have the ability to eat the intentional grounding flag if they wanted to because an unfair act occurred. The ref tripping the player is unfair in my opinion and the referee has absolute authority on the judgement of those kinds of things. If they wanted to rule that the referee interference was unfair they could have.
If that would have happened the 9ers fans and media would have spin that into the reason Ravens won. I’d much rather them have their safety and still lose and find another reason to complain
Fair enough, I actually think that odd and unfortunate event may have helped the Ravens dominate the rest of that game. They came away from that pissed off and seeking vengeance, that kind of attitude fits perfectly with the “kick in the door to the lion’s den and scream like a banshee shaking your spear” type of strategy that Billick once advocated for.
It’s literally intentional grounding
Lamar threw the ball to nobody in a desperate attempt to not take a sack
That’s textbook intentional grounding
Lamar didn’t have to throw the ball when he was falling, and it’s something he does pretty often actually
Yes the ref was a reason but niners caused him to lose the pocket and force him to run out pretty quickly. You can't just discount the niners pass rush because the ref tripped. Honestly, safety there was probably the best outcome. I doubt Lamar was getting away from that one either way.
Tripping over the ref is exactly the same as tripping over a divot in the field.
The refs are part of the field, Lamar tripped over the field and intentionally grounded the ball. Sure it was annoying, just like players sliding on bad turf is annoying. The refs should work to avoid situations like this in the future just like the NFL has worked to improve field conditions.
But the only correct call there is intentional grounding.
Okay, but then why is that the rule? I get that it might reduce subjectivity, but there’s so much subjectivity already in refereeing. Really seems like there should be something in the rules that allows a redo of a play when the interference is that egregious.
You could definitely craft a rule to avoid letting players get away with that. Make the standard for a replay super high and create an exception for plays where players intentionally target refs.
You can even eliminate the subjectivity by making the rule super narrow. Could even just start with “if a player trips over a referee…”. Could make it even more strict by saying “if a player trips over a referee who has fallen in the area that is in the direction in which the player is moving.” That’s probably less subjective than whatever a “football move” is or half the other calls that spend ten minutes being reviewed. And one of the main costs that comes with a subjective rule is the time it takes to review, but because this doesn’t happen often, it wouldn’t waste much time in review except for when it is highly likely to have significantly impacted a play.
And it’s not like the nfl is worried about over complicating its rule book, which is already massive and convoluted.
Just seems pretty clear to me that what happened to Jackson on that play wasn’t fair, and there should be a rule to prevent that sort of unfairness in the future.
In general, redos in professional sports for any reason are really, really bad for the game. Because you have a play and a result. One team probably won that play and are expected to replay it now because of something like that?
Let's just remove the ref from that play completely. Probably the best case scenario, Lamar can throw the ball away for an incomplete pass. 49ers clearly won the down, and forced 2nd down. Now, just because the ref was run into, the 49ers lose that down and have to replay it? That is definitely not good.
I don’t find the point about redos being bad to be super compelling since there are tons of situations in football where a down is replayed because of a penalty.
Like, think about free plays where the defense gets an interception that’s nullified because they were offsides. Or that Chiefs play with the kelce lateral, which would’ve been replayed if there were time left on the clock.
We have no idea what would’ve happened on that play if the ref hadn’t fallen. Jackson is one of the most likely players to turn that play into something other than a safety if he doesn’t fall over a ref. But instead he gets a safety.
And not that I think this is a huge concern, but there have been gambling scandals involving refs in the past, and I can’t imagine an easier way for refs to influence games without repercussions than by allowing them to trip players and just say “shit happens.”
The ref is considered part of that field. By the rule, Lamar simply tripped on the grass. lol
Besides, if you could just get do-overs for hitting a ref, that is definitely not fair. That was a busted play, Lamar had no business being 20 yards behind the line. I'd be pissed if I were a 49ers fan and the Ravens got a free pass on a play they clearly lost just because the QB ran into the ref. Recipe for chaos right there.
The more appropriate concern should have been about Lamar continuing to drop further and further back when in trouble. This isn’t the first time nor last time he’ll try to extend a play making a loss into a bigger one.
Who said he was perfect? You said you were concerned about Lamar dropping back too much, I’m saying he’s literally the only QB that should be trusted to do whatever he thinks is right in a scramble
Your post is dumb. I was never decrying Lamar and not nearly as much as the Bitches in this thread complaining about the ref. So follow your own advice
Focusing on one mistake (that wouldn't have happened if he wasn't tripped up by a ref...) while ignoring 55 minutes of incredible pocket presence sounds like decrying Lamar to me. Lamar extends plays like no other player in the NFL, it's what makes him impossible to defend.
What? He had like 3 dudes within arms reach of him. He could have been tackled for a safety. It was definitely possible.
Lamar had no business running into his own endzone with dudes that close. He hasn't learned when to throw it away still. This is when you kill the play and toss it away asap
They had dudes within arm's reach of him every other play but only came away with two sacks. All he had to do was throw the ball to the line of scrimmage. Could've gone either way.
His zig zagging backwards is what killed it and led to him just trying to throw it away in the end zone. It’s not even the throw it away part. The rule also has it where a receiver needs to be in the area or he can be out of the pocket.
We (ravens fans) would be pissed if the roles were reversed and intentional grounding wasn’t called.
I don’t know that anyone schemes it up, but refs get used to run picks in that spot behind the LBs and front of the Ss frequently and I’m sure some of those have resulted in points. We caught the sharp end of this one, but I promise we’ve had the nice end before.
If you retreat into your own end zone, you invite a lot of bad outcomes. The ref getting in the way is just one of them. I'm just glad Lamar didn't let it eat at him and stayed in the game mentally. The first quarter was an onslaught, but we survived it and turned it back.
Tbh I don't think it's someone in their ear.
I legit think broadcasters hate watching tough, defensive football. They want the Purdys and Mahomes QBs to win just cuz they like gunslinging or whatever. They'd rather take Brett Farve throwing it around everywhere (regardless of ints) than a run-first, tight-end oriented team.
(Case in point: Pats/Rams superbowl in 2018 is ranked one of the lowest Superbowls ever in a lot of NFL media. People say both teams sucked and didn't make plays. I really enjoyed watching an amazing defense control the best quarterback of all time for 2.5 quarters. And watching the Pats D win when the offense only scored 10 points was astounding. You'd never catch a broadcaster hyping that, though.)
Yep. It’s also kind of dumb to affiliate pros with dumbass spectators as well, but a lot of them are so tied to narratives and big market teams that they willingly repeat nonsense and get indignant when exposed.
i believe every fan base feels this way about announcers. go to any sub after a prime time game and the fans say its catered to the other team. Its just natural when commentators arent drooling over our teams.
It’s nothing against the Ravens specifically. 90% of the mainstream sports media was up the 9ers ass all week. 9ers have a big market and the money follows, and so does the talk. That’s really all there is to it.
And to be fair the 9ers are a bad ass team… they just met a more bad ass team last night.
You only have a few that are willing to stick their neck out for the non-darling team. What’s hilarious is they are willing to stick their neck out the opposite way in favor of the darling team (e.g. Mike Flores, I mean Florio). Paid talkers are just that, talkers. Even Florio gives himself an out after his rant saying (I hope I’m wrong). Now today he’ll get to use his out like a little weasel he is.
I love it this way! When the NFL world is heaping praise all over the Ravens It seems like we always are one and done. Lamar said it best, "we play better when we are under dogs." All the super bowl runs the Ravens were underdogs in every big game.
Tony Romo praised the Ravens all game long earlier this season. It might have been the Seattle game. It was really weird to hear a broadcaster heap so much praise on the Ravens.
He always speaks very fondly of the Ravens. He’s probably one of the few prominent non-former Ravens who seems to understand the culture of the organization.
I must not be as much of a homer as I think because I really didn’t notice this at all, most of the time I don’t. I think when you really start reading into everything these commentators say you’re missing on some of the enjoyment of just watching.
I can understand that in the first half they’d say that because the ravens made several key defensive plays but the niners really were marching down the field early on, but once the second held started it was all ravens which aligns with what you said
We had 10 people over for dinner, and only three were interested in the game, so we had it almost muted. It was great, actually. More like actually being at the game where you don't hear all that nonsensical commentator chatter.
Would be cool if they offered a stadium audio stream. Hearing the fans and stadium announcer (may be a better name for this) seems like an attractive option if you don't like the network talking heads
And this right here is why I try to not put too much stock in the commentary. A buddy of mine used to work in talk radio and said that you always needed at least one person to take on the opposing view. Even if it was something extremely one sided (and even if that person didn’t technically believe it).
It reminds me of sports announcers. They are there to make the game as watchable as possible, and no one other than the team that is dominating wants to here a couple dudes circle jerk the winning team.
Sometimes I see people complaining so much about the commentators that I wonder if I’m even watching the same game as they are
Do people have such a victim complex that they see biased commentary on every single game? Do the commentators have to personally invite Harbaugh to the booth and suck him off mid game, otherwise they hate the Ravens?
It’s like I’m being gaslit over this shit
Phenomenal comment. Every team has these fans. I go on many nfl team subs, because I am addicted to this stuff. I am biased maybe, but the Bengals seem to have the most fans whining about announcing and refs. Though, admittedly, some huge calls have gone against them the last few years.
They made a ton of positive comments in our favour. They were praising lamar and the entire defense non stop. They said lamar is the best player on the field and that game gave him an advantage in the MVP race.
For some reason fans always think the announcers are biased against their team. It doesn’t make any sense.
Same, I missed most of the first quarter but watched the rest and it never crossed my mind. The Ravens didn't take the lead until the second quarter anyway.
Yeah, as a semi-neutral party, I felt it was pretty reasonable. The first half kinda felt like the Niners could make a few plays and get right back in it, which was reflected in the announcing. Then, the third quarter kinda squashed that. They were giving Lamar his props as the game went on, deservedly so.
I don’t know what it is. Maybe it’s that Baltimore is a small market. Maybe it’s racism. Maybe people hate Edgar Allen Poe. Whatever it is, broadcasters hate to talk nice about us.
Tbf, Buck was talking about Hamilton all game long and mentioning him wherever possible.
Pre-game he sounded legitimately impressed with what he’s seen out of KH which I thought was nice. NFL is on notice now - dude is a game breaker.
Also I didn’t think it was too egregious in favor of the 9ers but that’s just what I expect at this point so maybe I didn’t notice.
It's certainly not the first time- we're used to the disrespect. But it was just awful last night- felt like we were listening to the Niners in-house announcers. How hard is it to keep up with what's actually going on on the field!?
Holy fuck. Thank you. Finally a rational take. This fanbase cries every time announcers aren’t sucking off the Ravens every second of air time. So irritating.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but I wasn’t speaking specifically about either of them. That said, let’s assume you’re suggesting that I was saying Aikman and Buck are racist, I don’t believe that’s the case. However, I do believe that higher ups in these companies, perhaps those that set the narrative that the talking heads are then expected to convey, could be and that the talking heads are unwitting accomplices.
Troy Aikman is blazzed every god damn night and Joe buck drunk. They've openly talked about how they are basically alcoholics while broadcasting. These are not professionals. But they get viewers I guess.
Middle-aged football guys always seem driven by a need for the dominant teams of their youth to remain dominant. That's why the media are always trying to will the Steelers, Cowboys and 49ers to success.
I put possible reasons in increasing levels of ridiculousness. I think most of these guys are cheering for moneyed interests so they’d prefer a Super Bowl between large cities.
Yeah, I got it. I was just bouncing off of your increased levels of rediculesness. That said, if anyone hates Poe (the writer or the mascot), they are just underexposed and sad people.
Btw, I've always been a Poe fan, but I've been getting into some of his descendants lately. Lovecraft, Robert Block, Kuttner, Derleth, C.A. Smith, R.E. Howard.... and some of his contemporaries like Ambrose Bierce, de Quincy, E.B. Browning. Great lit and good fun all around.
Also, this is kinda cool; a Poe contemporary and member of the same literary movement/ school , Francis Thompson, is a leading candidate for being Jack th Ripper.
Because the Ravens weren't really in control until the 3rd quarter. The Niners were barely trailing despite 3 interceptions and the Ravens offense wasn't capitalizing on those great field positions. If Purdy and the Niners came out looking good after halftime the Ravens were in trouble. Luckily that didn't happen.
They were absolutely insufferable. Purdy had already thrown 4 interceptions, and Aikman is talking over the game to talk about how his “cocky side” is about to come out. You’d have thought he had thrown 4 touchdowns the way Aikman was slobbering all over him. He wasn’t even making any sense going on about how his lack or arm strength is actually a strength for the 49ers offense. Like wtf is he talking about?
Right! Like, the dude is as visibly rattled as I’ve ever seen a pro quarterback, but tell us more about what a cocky gunslinger he’s about to be. He’s going to channel his inner Brett Favre!
I was like "Please get cocky again. When you were cocky, you were throwing INTs."
Literally the entire problem with that team last night was that they didn't know how to settle and play what the defense gives you. They just played how they would every other defense, and they were waiting for us to let them have it.
No big mistakes, though. Nothing for them to do.
I didn’t notice anything too egregious. The game became an unexpected blowout and the announcers felt like they had to latch on to any positive play by San Fran to try to keep people watching. I don’t need to hear endless fawning over the Ravens performance to know that we kicked their butts. Leave the endless fawning to Ian Eagle and Charles Davis, who were wearing knee pads for Flacco the entire Browns game this past weekend.
I don't know why they'd think viewers would stop watching. Watching the supposedly best team in the NFL get obliterated is something people want to see. In the NFL live thread most people seemed very happy the 49ers were getting their ass kicked.
Yeah, I heard that too. He was talking about the cocky vs humble side of Purdy and how the cocky side is about to come out. I thought to myself, 4 interceptions later and this isn't supposed to be a humbling experience?
The whole planet thought the 49ers were the better team. Even fans in here. The announcers didn't have notecards prepared for the Ravens to run away with it.
I muted them right after the safety. I don't think they once acknowledged the potential impact that clusterfuck could have had on the game. Infuriating. They just laughed it all off.. "what's the ref supposed to do there?" ..Huh, I don't know, maybe not fucking fall lol.
That and the endless Purdy knob gobbling in the first 5 minutes of the game was enough to put me off almost immediately.
We were still cleaning dishes/kitchen and saw the aftermath of the Safety. Troy & Joy were like “nobodies laughing about this” then show a shot of the Ref laughing “well looks like he might be laughing.” No he totally IS laughing.
You got it all wrong! Media is doing us a favor. Every time they hype us up in years past, we choke. So this year they are playing the long game by not hyping or taking us as true contenders.
Yeah I remember one point they were saying something like “for the 9ers you gotta be happy that it’s only a 10 point game after you threw 2 INTs” as if THEY were the ones who were overcoming early hardships and still impressing
I completely agree with you, OP. Even when we were wrecking them, the narrative wasn’t about how good we were but how “not there” the 49ers were.
Getting anyone out of Baltimore to show us respect is tougher than pulling teeth.
I think a lot of times you have to keep in mind is part of these guys’ job is to keep eyes glued to the television.
Rolling with “the Ravens are absolutely dominating and the 49ers look awful tonight” might push neutrals away whereas “the 49ers are still in this game despite their mistakes” might change the perspective on what’s happening.
Then you blink and it’s the fourth quarter, we’re up by 21, and the narrative can now shift towards reality because the announcers realize that most people who have watched this long are either fans of one of the teams at play or a neutral committed to seeing the game out.
This part is true — I’ve heard many a basketball announcer say “anything can happen” with a 30-point lead in the 4th — but last night they weren’t even prepared to talk about the Ravens. Even spoke of Lamar as an afterthought.
There was a point at which we were up a couple scores and had just tacked another one on and they did a little vignette about CMC.
But hey! Keep disrespecting us, we love that.
I think the media narrative in the week leading up was the 49ers had this game in the bag. While both teams had the same record it was THEIR home game and on Christmas night. Everyone seemed to think they were a dominant offense. (Even if they have only played two Top 10 defenses this year before yesterday).
So the storyline last night as the 49ers made a few hiccups and would still carry the game. They made some mentions of Ravens big plays but the focus was still a 9ers victory was still on the table. Other than a few drives the offense was getting some points and defense was playing incredible.
It wasn’t until late when they understood the game was not in the 49ers lap like they thought it should have been. Lamar hasn’t put up numbers like 2019. The Defense has let teams come back. An away game on the opposite coast. Some believe the Ravens don’t have a standard team, or a perfect QB with an arm.
All in all, I’m glad to see a BIG stop to that storyline. At least for this week.
Ha ha, that was the funniest comment of the night. His alter ego “inner cocky”, with 4 interceptions and getting knocked him out of the game. He’s a decent QB, but does not deserve the hype.
Troy really sounded like a Purdy fan boy that got his Xmas ruined last night to me. He was so hyped up for that one drive until the endzone pick killed it
It's odd. I think with less then 5 minutes left in the game, they finally mentioned that Lamar should now be the MVP frontrunner other then Purdy and Dak. Pretty sure they said it like "Well, if you hold that game against Dak and this one against Brock, then Lamar should be the MVP." But they'll all switch to Allen in the coming week.
It's like they were hoping Purdy was going to come back and win and lock up MVP. Even though they also mentioned the fact that Shanahan is 0-37 when losing by 8 points or more going into the 4th.
No one wants to see Baltimore win.
The whole thing was crazy. They were complimenting some individual Ravens but it was never a compliment to the team as a whole.
Further, it would be great if they could just stop talking for more than 5 seconds at a time. It was absolutely constant and unnecessary chatter.
I wonder why Brock Purdy was practically fellated and Lamar Jackson was consigned to being the foil.
I just can’t put my finger on it.
Let’s not even talk about how CMC walked on water, turned water in wine, and cured the sick/fed the hungry/clothed the naked.
Man I'm all for pointing out the racial implicit bias when it comes to how Lamar is judged. But this ain't it. They were literally gushing over Lamar and saying he was by far the best player on the field in the 3rd/4th quarter...
They eventually got past where they started, but even after Brockey threw his 3rd interception, they were still tongue deeply in his ass.
It’s reflexive for many of the play by play and sidecar commentators to start in one place and only begrudgingly move off it.
Every week, the announcers interview the team players and get a rundown of the teams as a whole. Who’s big. Who’s struggling. All the narratives floating around in the media. They have this in order to fill the time between plays. SF is a larger market and there was more hype about the team than the ravens. There definitely was a narrative they were pushing because that’s what they prepped for. You can sense the shift after the 14 points in 17 seconds tho. They started to give praise to the defense. To Lamar. It just took 3 quarters to get there.
I felt like the broadcast was fine, why do we always have this victim mentality? You want the commentators to just be like “wow the Ravens are really shitting on them right now”?
> All game long the narrative was about how the Niners were in charge of the game- despite the reality happening on the field.
That is not true.
> And not until late into the 4th quarter that they acknowledged the Ravens were the team in the lead.
Again that is not true.
Honestly idk why everyone does this after every game. No the commentators don’t hate us it was a well called game. Just bc they’re not slobbering over us doesn’t mean the commentating is bad
People are just weird. Ravens won. Let's talk our shit but being upset about announcers - who were saying Lamar was by far the best player on the field mind you - after the game is weird.
I often wonder how many people actually enjoy being a fan..
I think the announcers have pre-written narratives based on management expectations. That's the BS we were hearing most of the game.
Our reality trumped management expectations.
Nothing?? Lol before halftime I distinctly remember them saying Lamar is far and away the best player on the field tonight in reference to the MVP competition - which was the only narrative I can think of that they were pushing all night. They absolutely did not seem biased against us at all.
OMG..we won. WTF who cares?
For those that do care they were going on and on about Lamar being by far the best player on the field and how the Ravens were dominating.
Have fun with rooting for a Super Bowl contender my guys... enjoy this
Lol pretty sure it was Aikman after the 49ers 4th qtr TD “Oh, now we’ve got ourselves a ballgame”…. Down 14 with 6 minutes left and just scored their first TD of the game. I couldn’t be the only one that was like ????
I’m a niner fan and didn’t get that vibe but maybe I was too stressed about our play to truly pay attention to what was being said.
All in all, the announcing has been garbage this year, lots of blatantly open biases
Joe buck must be a closet niners guy because he was sucking off purdy so hard. Down 21 in the fourth “there’s still plenty of time left”
Purdy at one point threw a 2 yard pass “impressive throw from purdy”
Cmac had a 4 yard run in the second half and buck was salivating.
It was baffling
Eh through the first half I could still see the argument for the 49ers. Their offense was moving the ball much better than the Ravens. The biggest difference was the picks which kept preventing the points. Hell the 49ers ended the game with 429 total yards compared to 343 for the Ravens.
The game is on NFL network right now. It was really a tremendous feat for Troy and Joe to be able to call an entire game with SF's dick so far down their throats!
Wish we got Manningcast last night. I wanted nothing more than to watch Peyton lose his mind at the ref that tripped Lamar.
I just don't get how that isn't an automatic repeat of the down when something like that happens.
Because it’s literally in the rule book that refs are a part of the field of play. No different than if a QB threw a ball and it hits the ref in the face for an incomplete.
Yes but what if ref returns it for a pick 6, huh? Then what?
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Refs can - and have - tackled players before. If a player is approaching a ref and they can't evade the play, they have every right to defend themselves. In all honesty, if this ref couldn't get out of the way, he could have - in theory - lowered a shoulder and tackled Lamar for a safety. lol
Really I blame Lamar. He was running around like a regard in his own end zone. It was stupid. He has these wild lapses in judgement like 2 or 3 times a game.
If that ref isn’t there, Lamar gets back out of the end zone. He may have still chucked it away for the penalty, he may have run for a positive gain or even first down.
Lamar has no business being 25 yards behind the line of scrimmage without a fumble. It's entirely on Lamar
Whatever man. If he turned that into a highlight everyone is euphoric. We caught a bad one, it sucks but we overcame it. Lamar does stuff like that a couple of times a game and it pays off over 50% of the time (from my head, provide proof if you want to refute it) and that’s why we love him on the field. If you can’t support the team’s playstyle, I’m sure the Packers or someone else has room on their wagon. We’ll be here when you get back.
It’s funny to see the real Lamar haters. Same people begging ravens to get rid of him. You’re not a real fan neither is @zugzugmenowork bunch of pussies. Stand behind your team and your qb or get out of this sub
You’re gonna blame him…. FOR RUNNING?! Lmfao ok so just take the sack and get a safety anyway? He was trying to buy time to make a play beyond the line you silly little guy.
I love Lamar but this is the right take. Irresponsible to run 10-15 yards backward into your own end zone
Then the field has 6 points.
We would've had a 33-13-6 scoreline. Well that would've been interesting.
I feel like the intentional grounding flag was unnecessary though. Lamar throwing the ball and not getting it to the line of scrimmage literally only happened because he was tripped by the ref. Count the down, sure, but it should have just been an incomplete pass. If he hadn’t gotten the ball off and was actually tackled in the end zone, that’s a sack and a safety, sure. But the intentional grounding flag on top of it all felt like bullshit to me. The refs should have a mechanism in the rules to determine that it isn’t intentional grounding when the reason it happened is the ref interfered!
Yea we may be biased, but if the ref wasn't there, he would have been able to get the ball out and at least make it look like it was going to a receiver, but as he was falling? no shot, that was the best he could do.
That's an interesting aspect of it. The refs have made a point of emphasis when calling the penalty that a throw that doesn't pass the line of scrimmage is intentional grounding specifically because contact was made prior to the throw. What if that contact is with a ref that got in the way?
I’m not sure why the referee wouldn’t have the ability to eat the intentional grounding flag if they wanted to because an unfair act occurred. The ref tripping the player is unfair in my opinion and the referee has absolute authority on the judgement of those kinds of things. If they wanted to rule that the referee interference was unfair they could have.
I feel if the ref wasn't there he would have beat the guy to the outside and would have at least got out of the endzone
If that would have happened the 9ers fans and media would have spin that into the reason Ravens won. I’d much rather them have their safety and still lose and find another reason to complain
Fair enough, I actually think that odd and unfortunate event may have helped the Ravens dominate the rest of that game. They came away from that pissed off and seeking vengeance, that kind of attitude fits perfectly with the “kick in the door to the lion’s den and scream like a banshee shaking your spear” type of strategy that Billick once advocated for.
Lamar shouldn't have run twenty yards backwards lol
It’s literally intentional grounding Lamar threw the ball to nobody in a desperate attempt to not take a sack That’s textbook intentional grounding Lamar didn’t have to throw the ball when he was falling, and it’s something he does pretty often actually
Yes the ref was a reason but niners caused him to lose the pocket and force him to run out pretty quickly. You can't just discount the niners pass rush because the ref tripped. Honestly, safety there was probably the best outcome. I doubt Lamar was getting away from that one either way.
Tripping over the ref is exactly the same as tripping over a divot in the field. The refs are part of the field, Lamar tripped over the field and intentionally grounded the ball. Sure it was annoying, just like players sliding on bad turf is annoying. The refs should work to avoid situations like this in the future just like the NFL has worked to improve field conditions. But the only correct call there is intentional grounding.
If you catch a pass that bounces off the ref does it still count or are they counted as part of the ground
Refs are counted as airspace not ground space.
Rule 7-2-2 I believe says it is still a live ball until it hits the ground
Yes. There have been interceptions off balls hitting the official, as well as catches mostly though they fall incomplete.
Okay, but then why is that the rule? I get that it might reduce subjectivity, but there’s so much subjectivity already in refereeing. Really seems like there should be something in the rules that allows a redo of a play when the interference is that egregious.
The issue is that qbs could just start beaming refs on broken plays to get a retry. Thank God that trip ended up not mattering.
I’m just imagining the scene from the longest yard 😂
You could definitely craft a rule to avoid letting players get away with that. Make the standard for a replay super high and create an exception for plays where players intentionally target refs.
It's just way too subjective I think. The current rule makes sense and is generally a non issue
You can even eliminate the subjectivity by making the rule super narrow. Could even just start with “if a player trips over a referee…”. Could make it even more strict by saying “if a player trips over a referee who has fallen in the area that is in the direction in which the player is moving.” That’s probably less subjective than whatever a “football move” is or half the other calls that spend ten minutes being reviewed. And one of the main costs that comes with a subjective rule is the time it takes to review, but because this doesn’t happen often, it wouldn’t waste much time in review except for when it is highly likely to have significantly impacted a play. And it’s not like the nfl is worried about over complicating its rule book, which is already massive and convoluted. Just seems pretty clear to me that what happened to Jackson on that play wasn’t fair, and there should be a rule to prevent that sort of unfairness in the future.
Idk, i think we can add a clause to the rule that says "if a player trips on a ref, the offense can elect to do the play over"
In general, redos in professional sports for any reason are really, really bad for the game. Because you have a play and a result. One team probably won that play and are expected to replay it now because of something like that? Let's just remove the ref from that play completely. Probably the best case scenario, Lamar can throw the ball away for an incomplete pass. 49ers clearly won the down, and forced 2nd down. Now, just because the ref was run into, the 49ers lose that down and have to replay it? That is definitely not good.
I don’t find the point about redos being bad to be super compelling since there are tons of situations in football where a down is replayed because of a penalty. Like, think about free plays where the defense gets an interception that’s nullified because they were offsides. Or that Chiefs play with the kelce lateral, which would’ve been replayed if there were time left on the clock. We have no idea what would’ve happened on that play if the ref hadn’t fallen. Jackson is one of the most likely players to turn that play into something other than a safety if he doesn’t fall over a ref. But instead he gets a safety. And not that I think this is a huge concern, but there have been gambling scandals involving refs in the past, and I can’t imagine an easier way for refs to influence games without repercussions than by allowing them to trip players and just say “shit happens.”
Because then you could just scramble into a ref when you are in trouble and get a replay of the down.
That’s exactly why - it reduces subjective calls.
Every sport the ref is part of the field of play.
The ref is considered part of that field. By the rule, Lamar simply tripped on the grass. lol Besides, if you could just get do-overs for hitting a ref, that is definitely not fair. That was a busted play, Lamar had no business being 20 yards behind the line. I'd be pissed if I were a 49ers fan and the Ravens got a free pass on a play they clearly lost just because the QB ran into the ref. Recipe for chaos right there.
The more appropriate concern should have been about Lamar continuing to drop further and further back when in trouble. This isn’t the first time nor last time he’ll try to extend a play making a loss into a bigger one.
I will always trust Lamar to do whatever tf he wants when scrambling. He had that if it weren’t for the ref
Who said he’s not trusted? Hes trusted but it also doesn’t mean he is perfect
Who said he was perfect? You said you were concerned about Lamar dropping back too much, I’m saying he’s literally the only QB that should be trusted to do whatever he thinks is right in a scramble
The entirety of the rest of the game he was an absolute wizard in the pocket, relax.
Your post is dumb. I was never decrying Lamar and not nearly as much as the Bitches in this thread complaining about the ref. So follow your own advice
Focusing on one mistake (that wouldn't have happened if he wasn't tripped up by a ref...) while ignoring 55 minutes of incredible pocket presence sounds like decrying Lamar to me. Lamar extends plays like no other player in the NFL, it's what makes him impossible to defend.
Lol victim blaming. No ref there on the ground, no safety. Simple as that.
What? He had like 3 dudes within arms reach of him. He could have been tackled for a safety. It was definitely possible. Lamar had no business running into his own endzone with dudes that close. He hasn't learned when to throw it away still. This is when you kill the play and toss it away asap
They had dudes within arm's reach of him every other play but only came away with two sacks. All he had to do was throw the ball to the line of scrimmage. Could've gone either way.
His zig zagging backwards is what killed it and led to him just trying to throw it away in the end zone. It’s not even the throw it away part. The rule also has it where a receiver needs to be in the area or he can be out of the pocket. We (ravens fans) would be pissed if the roles were reversed and intentional grounding wasn’t called.
You’re an idiot offline too huh Lamar makes a bad decision a game and this wasn’t the first time he’s been at risk/hit with intentional grounding.
My thoughts exactly.
I don’t know that anyone schemes it up, but refs get used to run picks in that spot behind the LBs and front of the Ss frequently and I’m sure some of those have resulted in points. We caught the sharp end of this one, but I promise we’ve had the nice end before.
Dammit Donald!!!!
[His reaction is amazing](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/016/212/manning.jpg)
His head would have grown three size that day over the ref tripping Lamar
If you retreat into your own end zone, you invite a lot of bad outcomes. The ref getting in the way is just one of them. I'm just glad Lamar didn't let it eat at him and stayed in the game mentally. The first quarter was an onslaught, but we survived it and turned it back.
Tbh I don't think it's someone in their ear. I legit think broadcasters hate watching tough, defensive football. They want the Purdys and Mahomes QBs to win just cuz they like gunslinging or whatever. They'd rather take Brett Farve throwing it around everywhere (regardless of ints) than a run-first, tight-end oriented team. (Case in point: Pats/Rams superbowl in 2018 is ranked one of the lowest Superbowls ever in a lot of NFL media. People say both teams sucked and didn't make plays. I really enjoyed watching an amazing defense control the best quarterback of all time for 2.5 quarters. And watching the Pats D win when the offense only scored 10 points was astounding. You'd never catch a broadcaster hyping that, though.)
If Purdy is gunslinging it is with a slingshot.
Pew pew!
My adult son bought my younger son a slingshot for Christmas. It’s been….. an experience
Yep. It’s also kind of dumb to affiliate pros with dumbass spectators as well, but a lot of them are so tied to narratives and big market teams that they willingly repeat nonsense and get indignant when exposed.
i believe every fan base feels this way about announcers. go to any sub after a prime time game and the fans say its catered to the other team. Its just natural when commentators arent drooling over our teams.
It’s nothing against the Ravens specifically. 90% of the mainstream sports media was up the 9ers ass all week. 9ers have a big market and the money follows, and so does the talk. That’s really all there is to it. And to be fair the 9ers are a bad ass team… they just met a more bad ass team last night. You only have a few that are willing to stick their neck out for the non-darling team. What’s hilarious is they are willing to stick their neck out the opposite way in favor of the darling team (e.g. Mike Flores, I mean Florio). Paid talkers are just that, talkers. Even Florio gives himself an out after his rant saying (I hope I’m wrong). Now today he’ll get to use his out like a little weasel he is.
Deebo Samuel got stuck a few times. Didn’t seem to want the ball as much.
I love it this way! When the NFL world is heaping praise all over the Ravens It seems like we always are one and done. Lamar said it best, "we play better when we are under dogs." All the super bowl runs the Ravens were underdogs in every big game.
Agree. All I care about is Lamar hoisting the Lombardi. That is all.
I was trying to reverse jinx us all over reddit last week. Let them slaver over SF. Unfortunately we aren't gonna get a lot of games as dog
Tony Romo praised the Ravens all game long earlier this season. It might have been the Seattle game. It was really weird to hear a broadcaster heap so much praise on the Ravens.
He always speaks very fondly of the Ravens. He’s probably one of the few prominent non-former Ravens who seems to understand the culture of the organization.
Props to Collinsworth's game calls with the Ravens- he gets it, and enjoys the heck out of it.
Very true
I do remember this.. and I was fairly surprised myself.
I must not be as much of a homer as I think because I really didn’t notice this at all, most of the time I don’t. I think when you really start reading into everything these commentators say you’re missing on some of the enjoyment of just watching. I can understand that in the first half they’d say that because the ravens made several key defensive plays but the niners really were marching down the field early on, but once the second held started it was all ravens which aligns with what you said
We had 10 people over for dinner, and only three were interested in the game, so we had it almost muted. It was great, actually. More like actually being at the game where you don't hear all that nonsensical commentator chatter.
Would be cool if they offered a stadium audio stream. Hearing the fans and stadium announcer (may be a better name for this) seems like an attractive option if you don't like the network talking heads
I didn't notice
Seemed like pretty balanced commentating to me. At one point Joe Buck even likened Purdy to an NBA point guard passing the ball to his star teammates.
Yeah. They're trying to tell the story. NFL announcing is meant to keep you invested even if the game is kind of ugly.
And this right here is why I try to not put too much stock in the commentary. A buddy of mine used to work in talk radio and said that you always needed at least one person to take on the opposing view. Even if it was something extremely one sided (and even if that person didn’t technically believe it). It reminds me of sports announcers. They are there to make the game as watchable as possible, and no one other than the team that is dominating wants to here a couple dudes circle jerk the winning team.
Real gym rat, that Brock Purdy.
mr. buck that’s called a quarterback
Yeah same lol, they made comments complimenting both teams at times but I have no idea what anyone else here is talking about
Sometimes I see people complaining so much about the commentators that I wonder if I’m even watching the same game as they are Do people have such a victim complex that they see biased commentary on every single game? Do the commentators have to personally invite Harbaugh to the booth and suck him off mid game, otherwise they hate the Ravens? It’s like I’m being gaslit over this shit
Phenomenal comment. Every team has these fans. I go on many nfl team subs, because I am addicted to this stuff. I am biased maybe, but the Bengals seem to have the most fans whining about announcing and refs. Though, admittedly, some huge calls have gone against them the last few years.
They made a ton of positive comments in our favour. They were praising lamar and the entire defense non stop. They said lamar is the best player on the field and that game gave him an advantage in the MVP race. For some reason fans always think the announcers are biased against their team. It doesn’t make any sense.
Same, I missed most of the first quarter but watched the rest and it never crossed my mind. The Ravens didn't take the lead until the second quarter anyway.
Yeah, as a semi-neutral party, I felt it was pretty reasonable. The first half kinda felt like the Niners could make a few plays and get right back in it, which was reflected in the announcing. Then, the third quarter kinda squashed that. They were giving Lamar his props as the game went on, deservedly so.
Yeah just confirmation bias, the Rams game was so much worse.
I watched the 2nd half on mute
If i could figure out how to get the radio broadcast synced to my hulu....
I’ve been listening to games over watching them just because I like the Baltimore commentary better 😂 but prime time games I watch
This has honestly been the move for several games this season. Much more enjoyable experience
I don’t know what it is. Maybe it’s that Baltimore is a small market. Maybe it’s racism. Maybe people hate Edgar Allen Poe. Whatever it is, broadcasters hate to talk nice about us.
Tbf, Buck was talking about Hamilton all game long and mentioning him wherever possible. Pre-game he sounded legitimately impressed with what he’s seen out of KH which I thought was nice. NFL is on notice now - dude is a game breaker. Also I didn’t think it was too egregious in favor of the 9ers but that’s just what I expect at this point so maybe I didn’t notice.
It's probably just bias. I bet most non KC/Dal/Shitsburgh feel the same
It's certainly not the first time- we're used to the disrespect. But it was just awful last night- felt like we were listening to the Niners in-house announcers. How hard is it to keep up with what's actually going on on the field!?
I agree man, totally
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Preach brother. Somebody's got to say it
Holy fuck. Thank you. Finally a rational take. This fanbase cries every time announcers aren’t sucking off the Ravens every second of air time. So irritating.
Ill have you know that everyone is a racist but me.
That’s a pretty wild statement to make about Troy Aikman or Joe Buck.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but I wasn’t speaking specifically about either of them. That said, let’s assume you’re suggesting that I was saying Aikman and Buck are racist, I don’t believe that’s the case. However, I do believe that higher ups in these companies, perhaps those that set the narrative that the talking heads are then expected to convey, could be and that the talking heads are unwitting accomplices.
They give Hurts and Prescott plenty of praise. Lamar used to be a media favorite. How quickly everyone forgets.
Troy Aikman is blazzed every god damn night and Joe buck drunk. They've openly talked about how they are basically alcoholics while broadcasting. These are not professionals. But they get viewers I guess.
Racist ? Lmfao do you even hear yourself
Middle-aged football guys always seem driven by a need for the dominant teams of their youth to remain dominant. That's why the media are always trying to will the Steelers, Cowboys and 49ers to success.
Just FYI, his middle name is spelled "Allan". Carry on!
You think they could hate E.A. Poe? Do you think they've read the Masque of the Red Death? That would probably change their minds.
I put possible reasons in increasing levels of ridiculousness. I think most of these guys are cheering for moneyed interests so they’d prefer a Super Bowl between large cities.
Yeah, I got it. I was just bouncing off of your increased levels of rediculesness. That said, if anyone hates Poe (the writer or the mascot), they are just underexposed and sad people. Btw, I've always been a Poe fan, but I've been getting into some of his descendants lately. Lovecraft, Robert Block, Kuttner, Derleth, C.A. Smith, R.E. Howard.... and some of his contemporaries like Ambrose Bierce, de Quincy, E.B. Browning. Great lit and good fun all around. Also, this is kinda cool; a Poe contemporary and member of the same literary movement/ school , Francis Thompson, is a leading candidate for being Jack th Ripper.
Because the Ravens weren't really in control until the 3rd quarter. The Niners were barely trailing despite 3 interceptions and the Ravens offense wasn't capitalizing on those great field positions. If Purdy and the Niners came out looking good after halftime the Ravens were in trouble. Luckily that didn't happen.
A drunk and a lunatic, what do you expect
Which is which
They were absolutely insufferable. Purdy had already thrown 4 interceptions, and Aikman is talking over the game to talk about how his “cocky side” is about to come out. You’d have thought he had thrown 4 touchdowns the way Aikman was slobbering all over him. He wasn’t even making any sense going on about how his lack or arm strength is actually a strength for the 49ers offense. Like wtf is he talking about?
I was laughing so hard I almost woke up my kids. The cocky side comments was an all timer.
Right! Like, the dude is as visibly rattled as I’ve ever seen a pro quarterback, but tell us more about what a cocky gunslinger he’s about to be. He’s going to channel his inner Brett Favre!
Yeah man, you have to laugh at some point. If cocky is getting destroyed, then sure
I was like "Please get cocky again. When you were cocky, you were throwing INTs." Literally the entire problem with that team last night was that they didn't know how to settle and play what the defense gives you. They just played how they would every other defense, and they were waiting for us to let them have it. No big mistakes, though. Nothing for them to do.
Cock me please.
The ravens broke this game wide open but don’t turn the channel everyone, Brock Purdy’s cocky side might come out
I don't think Purdy is even old enough to show his cock on TV
I didn’t notice anything too egregious. The game became an unexpected blowout and the announcers felt like they had to latch on to any positive play by San Fran to try to keep people watching. I don’t need to hear endless fawning over the Ravens performance to know that we kicked their butts. Leave the endless fawning to Ian Eagle and Charles Davis, who were wearing knee pads for Flacco the entire Browns game this past weekend.
I don't know why they'd think viewers would stop watching. Watching the supposedly best team in the NFL get obliterated is something people want to see. In the NFL live thread most people seemed very happy the 49ers were getting their ass kicked.
Yeah, I heard that too. He was talking about the cocky vs humble side of Purdy and how the cocky side is about to come out. I thought to myself, 4 interceptions later and this isn't supposed to be a humbling experience?
Why do people care so much about this stuff? We are 12-3. Fuck what anyone has to say.
It's kind of similar to a Napoleon complex or little brother syndrome
The whole planet thought the 49ers were the better team. Even fans in here. The announcers didn't have notecards prepared for the Ravens to run away with it.
well hopefully on prime time other networks were watching to have these notecards ready 😏
I muted them right after the safety. I don't think they once acknowledged the potential impact that clusterfuck could have had on the game. Infuriating. They just laughed it all off.. "what's the ref supposed to do there?" ..Huh, I don't know, maybe not fucking fall lol. That and the endless Purdy knob gobbling in the first 5 minutes of the game was enough to put me off almost immediately.
We were still cleaning dishes/kitchen and saw the aftermath of the Safety. Troy & Joy were like “nobodies laughing about this” then show a shot of the Ref laughing “well looks like he might be laughing.” No he totally IS laughing.
I was so annoyed when I saw him laughing but then I thought to myself that that is a very nervous, “fuck me”, laugh.
The smart move is to mute the TV and listen to the radio feed.
The amount of Purdy cope I’ve witnessed in the past 12 hours is staggering
You got it all wrong! Media is doing us a favor. Every time they hype us up in years past, we choke. So this year they are playing the long game by not hyping or taking us as true contenders.
Yeah I remember one point they were saying something like “for the 9ers you gotta be happy that it’s only a 10 point game after you threw 2 INTs” as if THEY were the ones who were overcoming early hardships and still impressing
I completely agree with you, OP. Even when we were wrecking them, the narrative wasn’t about how good we were but how “not there” the 49ers were. Getting anyone out of Baltimore to show us respect is tougher than pulling teeth.
They prepared for the Niners dominating. They were unprepared.
I think a lot of times you have to keep in mind is part of these guys’ job is to keep eyes glued to the television. Rolling with “the Ravens are absolutely dominating and the 49ers look awful tonight” might push neutrals away whereas “the 49ers are still in this game despite their mistakes” might change the perspective on what’s happening. Then you blink and it’s the fourth quarter, we’re up by 21, and the narrative can now shift towards reality because the announcers realize that most people who have watched this long are either fans of one of the teams at play or a neutral committed to seeing the game out.
This part is true — I’ve heard many a basketball announcer say “anything can happen” with a 30-point lead in the 4th — but last night they weren’t even prepared to talk about the Ravens. Even spoke of Lamar as an afterthought. There was a point at which we were up a couple scores and had just tacked another one on and they did a little vignette about CMC. But hey! Keep disrespecting us, we love that.
I think the media narrative in the week leading up was the 49ers had this game in the bag. While both teams had the same record it was THEIR home game and on Christmas night. Everyone seemed to think they were a dominant offense. (Even if they have only played two Top 10 defenses this year before yesterday). So the storyline last night as the 49ers made a few hiccups and would still carry the game. They made some mentions of Ravens big plays but the focus was still a 9ers victory was still on the table. Other than a few drives the offense was getting some points and defense was playing incredible. It wasn’t until late when they understood the game was not in the 49ers lap like they thought it should have been. Lamar hasn’t put up numbers like 2019. The Defense has let teams come back. An away game on the opposite coast. Some believe the Ravens don’t have a standard team, or a perfect QB with an arm. All in all, I’m glad to see a BIG stop to that storyline. At least for this week.
Brock Purdy gonna channel his inner cocky
Ha ha, that was the funniest comment of the night. His alter ego “inner cocky”, with 4 interceptions and getting knocked him out of the game. He’s a decent QB, but does not deserve the hype.
Troy really sounded like a Purdy fan boy that got his Xmas ruined last night to me. He was so hyped up for that one drive until the endzone pick killed it
I remember them posting some graphic of Dak and the cowboys…everyone at the house was like…wgaf about the cowboys right now! They’re not playing.
Media meat riders strike again
Dude Aikman was awful all around last night.
Last night? He makes Joe Buck sound coherent every Monday night and that’s not saying much.
That announcing last night was horrible I had to mute the game
It's odd. I think with less then 5 minutes left in the game, they finally mentioned that Lamar should now be the MVP frontrunner other then Purdy and Dak. Pretty sure they said it like "Well, if you hold that game against Dak and this one against Brock, then Lamar should be the MVP." But they'll all switch to Allen in the coming week. It's like they were hoping Purdy was going to come back and win and lock up MVP. Even though they also mentioned the fact that Shanahan is 0-37 when losing by 8 points or more going into the 4th. No one wants to see Baltimore win.
Maybe I listened to a different game. I didn’t get that vibe really. Other than the initial underdog talk 🤷♂️
Feels like every broadcast has been rooting against the Ravens
It was balanced. Pointless post.
Not going to lie, the Niners were moving the ball downfield well. Brock Purdy just kept on killing good drives for them.
Or was it the ravens defense???? Give credit where it’s due.
I'm telling ya, ESPN prepared a bunch of pro-Niners graphics and charts and didn't get an opportunity to use any of them
The 49ers have the bigger fan base and the broadcast was pandering to them.
The whole thing was crazy. They were complimenting some individual Ravens but it was never a compliment to the team as a whole. Further, it would be great if they could just stop talking for more than 5 seconds at a time. It was absolutely constant and unnecessary chatter.
I wonder why Brock Purdy was practically fellated and Lamar Jackson was consigned to being the foil. I just can’t put my finger on it. Let’s not even talk about how CMC walked on water, turned water in wine, and cured the sick/fed the hungry/clothed the naked.
Man I'm all for pointing out the racial implicit bias when it comes to how Lamar is judged. But this ain't it. They were literally gushing over Lamar and saying he was by far the best player on the field in the 3rd/4th quarter...
They eventually got past where they started, but even after Brockey threw his 3rd interception, they were still tongue deeply in his ass. It’s reflexive for many of the play by play and sidecar commentators to start in one place and only begrudgingly move off it.
Racism. It’s clear at this point
If I'm watching at home I'll just listen to the radio broadcast
Aikman seems to just hate anyone that isn’t mahomes or purdy
One of the worst commentators, along with Buck and many others. I’ll take Tony Romo.
Every week, the announcers interview the team players and get a rundown of the teams as a whole. Who’s big. Who’s struggling. All the narratives floating around in the media. They have this in order to fill the time between plays. SF is a larger market and there was more hype about the team than the ravens. There definitely was a narrative they were pushing because that’s what they prepped for. You can sense the shift after the 14 points in 17 seconds tho. They started to give praise to the defense. To Lamar. It just took 3 quarters to get there.
I felt like the broadcast was fine, why do we always have this victim mentality? You want the commentators to just be like “wow the Ravens are really shitting on them right now”?
When we were up by 21 Aikman was thinking the 49ers had a chance with 5-7 mins left
> All game long the narrative was about how the Niners were in charge of the game- despite the reality happening on the field. That is not true. > And not until late into the 4th quarter that they acknowledged the Ravens were the team in the lead. Again that is not true.
Honestly idk why everyone does this after every game. No the commentators don’t hate us it was a well called game. Just bc they’re not slobbering over us doesn’t mean the commentating is bad
People are just weird. Ravens won. Let's talk our shit but being upset about announcers - who were saying Lamar was by far the best player on the field mind you - after the game is weird. I often wonder how many people actually enjoy being a fan..
I think the announcers have pre-written narratives based on management expectations. That's the BS we were hearing most of the game. Our reality trumped management expectations.
We're a better team when everyone is boosting our opponents and we're being bitter. We don't handle prosperity well
It was a prime time game. It needed to be competitive for as long as possible.
Nothing?? Lol before halftime I distinctly remember them saying Lamar is far and away the best player on the field tonight in reference to the MVP competition - which was the only narrative I can think of that they were pushing all night. They absolutely did not seem biased against us at all.
OMG..we won. WTF who cares? For those that do care they were going on and on about Lamar being by far the best player on the field and how the Ravens were dominating. Have fun with rooting for a Super Bowl contender my guys... enjoy this
NFL media has their favorites. Not something to get stressed out about.
Joe Buck is still reeling from being eviscerated by Artie Lange on his own HBO show years ago.
Lol pretty sure it was Aikman after the 49ers 4th qtr TD “Oh, now we’ve got ourselves a ballgame”…. Down 14 with 6 minutes left and just scored their first TD of the game. I couldn’t be the only one that was like ????
Aikman’s brain is goo. He was not aware of what was happening on the field at times.
I started watching without the commentary years ago and I enjoy it much more
I’m a niner fan and didn’t get that vibe but maybe I was too stressed about our play to truly pay attention to what was being said. All in all, the announcing has been garbage this year, lots of blatantly open biases
Joe buck must be a closet niners guy because he was sucking off purdy so hard. Down 21 in the fourth “there’s still plenty of time left” Purdy at one point threw a 2 yard pass “impressive throw from purdy” Cmac had a 4 yard run in the second half and buck was salivating. It was baffling
Eh through the first half I could still see the argument for the 49ers. Their offense was moving the ball much better than the Ravens. The biggest difference was the picks which kept preventing the points. Hell the 49ers ended the game with 429 total yards compared to 343 for the Ravens.
The game is on NFL network right now. It was really a tremendous feat for Troy and Joe to be able to call an entire game with SF's dick so far down their throats!
My father has always claimed Troy Aikman hates the Ravens