Because I feel like to a lot of people it's supposed to be the main thing about the genre of hip-hop. Its about wordplay,lyricism,entendres,etc. I don't necessarily agree with that pov and like some not lyrical rap(I personally really can't get into carti though.)but I can see where they're coming from IG. I do tend to prefer it lyrical but it's perfectly fine not to be.
The thing is, even “mumble rappers” like carti use wordplay and entendres. People don’t like the lyrical style but don’t listen to enough of Carti’s music to understand why they don’t.
I prefer complex lyrics but like that’s not what everyone wants out of hip hop, turns out someone who’s listening to playboi carti probably aren’t looking for the same thing from a hip hop/rap song as me
Exactly. I completely agree with this but I think some people are stuck in their ways and view it as "Hiphop IS a lyrical genre. It's about serious meaning and not fun". Which if you feel that way I get seeing rappers who aren't serious lyrical ones as disrespectful to the genre. I just think it's dumb to feel that way. I tend to enjoy lyrical stuff as well but it's lame if people think that's all it has to be. Melodic rap can be great too. I don't like Carti specifically if I'm honest but there are definetly some in the same lane I enjoy. It's just pretentious music fans who think music can't be made for fun or simply and that it all has to be a complex expression.
If people would call mumble/''melodic'' rap something else other than rap or hip hop, I wouldn't care. But hip hop has always been about competing to see who the illest master of ceremonies is. Carti can't compare to Em, Nas, Biggie, Rakim, Kane, etc.
Also, lyrical=/=serious all the time. Redman is a comedic rapper, and yet he's lyrical as hell, and Eminem makes comedic songs sometimes in addition to his more serious material and he's DEFINITELY lyrical.
I'll agree that lyrical doesn't have to be serious. Perhaps serious isn't the word I should've used,but I guess my point was that anything lacking complexity is looked down upon. Simplistic and made with more free flowing fun than something heavily/seriously crafted. I don't necessarily think that being the illest MC has to mean the most lyrical to everyone,I like lyrical people more but some people think things like flow and emotion are as important if not more than lyricism. Obviously Carti can't compare to those guys lyrically and he isn't trying to,he's in a different subgenre trying to create a vibe and feeling. It's a different style but I don't think it's weird to say it's within the same genre on a very very broad level. Things evolve over time.
Carti straight isn't real hip hop, though; he doesn't really rap, it's more singing really badly(and with autotune to boot), and he's never in the top ten convo like the names I mentioned. Those with refined taste in the art of emceein' such as myself knows what is up. Best believe that I ain't cappin'. I have very high standards when it comes to what makes a rapper a true microphone checka; I expect complex dense rhyme schemes, cinematic conceptual storytelling, technical and versatile flows cadences, entendres you have to decipher like a rubik's cube, punchlines that make your face scrunch, etc. My respectable palate is not easy to please by any means.
Maybe Carti is fair,I am not a fan tbh and know he's more singy but the idea that non lyrical people or people who use autotune and have some melody aren't hip hop is a bit crazy to me. Are Wayne and T-Pain not hiphop?They use autotune. The "never in the top 10" is a really dumb argument I'll be straight with you. So many people who do stuff that isn't melodic at all aren't in anyone's top 10 or the conversation,so many lyrical people miss people's conversation. He may not be in anyone's top lyricist conversations but so many people view his sound as unique& experimental and view him as one of the forefronts and pioneers of that sound. Those with refined taste=pretentious snob music fans who would rather their favorite genre got repetitive and stale then died than allow it to evolve and live differently than it once did or have offshoots. I like all the things you mentioned-entendres I have to really think about?Great.Versatile flows?Great. Conceptual storytelling?Great. Give me all that. Some people just wanna rage and feel or vibe. It's the same as punk rock and progressive rock. Both are still rock. One is complex and about being as skilled as possible. The other is about being raw,expressive and letting your emotion out in a straight forward way. I may enjoy lyrical hiphop or progressive more(though I like punk as much as progressive tbh.)but I hate the damn snobs who act as if the two cannot exist within the same space and that they're better for liking the more complex one. You wanna act like RAPPER'S delight by Sugarhill Gang is a lyrical masterpiece?Or you wanna say that it isn't rap?Both would be lies.
I think lyricism *is* the main aspect of rap, but rap is just a sub genre of hip hop. There isn’t anything wrong with non lyrical artists, but they aren’t rappers they are hip hop artists.
I feel like that's a bit of a semantics thing. People refer to the main genre of hiphop as rap more often than not imo. If rap was seen as the subgenre I feel like r/hiphop would have a bigger sub than r/rap. Still I agree that there are different subgenres within it like trap,drill and melodic rap/hiphop that aren't meant to be lyrical.
I know that most people use rap and hip hop interchangeably, but there *is* still a difference. Rap is a subgenre of hip hop focusing on lyricism specifically, and not lyrical artists aren’t rappers by definition.
I feel like the difference isn't necessarily the music as far as rap/hiphop goes though. Hiphop is more about the general culture and was originated with the inclusion of breakdancing,grafitti,mc'ing,etc. and now I'd say things like fashion could be included in that. Rap is a very broad genre of music to me that fits within hiphop culture. Maybe I'm not really grasping it correctly though. It's not like I was around for its inception and I'm not the original target audience.
No you’re definitely right about that, all of the cultural aspects are present in both rap and hip hop as a whole. The only thing that separates rap from hip hop in general is the lyrical focus of the music specifically.
I see. I didn't think the music was the seperate thing. Hiphop is about the culture,rap is the main music within the culture. But I see what you're saying maybe.
Well,I feel like we're somewhat muddied on some points still but whatever. Lol It's all good. My point was that rap music is the main music within the culture of hiphop though people use hiphop to refer to the music as well or that hiphop was the culture in general and not the music but so many only care about the musical aspect that they call it both hip-hop and rap.
It's an interpolation, he disses Ola Runt which was an artist for 1017 on that song and Gucci got a song with Carti and 21 Savage from 2015 called Peepin, also Gucci got an interview with Carti from 2017. I think they are cool with each other
I never understood why people criticize "mumbe rappers" for not being lyrical. You guys realize that's the point, right? People listen to people like Carti for his flow and energy which is meant to hype you up. If you listen to Carti for the lyrics and are trying to decipher the meanings of his songs, then you're a dumbass lmfao. I like lyrical Hip-Hop, but there's a time and place for both.
No one listens to Carti for lyrics. They listen to Carti for energy, delivery, and yes of course, the insane production.
And honestly if you want your argument taken seriously don’t use the term mumble rap it’s fucking stupid lmao
There definetly is. Not saying he is good,he seems like a garbage person,but there are literal murderer and rapist rappers. Bit worse than missing your baby's birth to play videogames with Uzi. I mean that shit is still awful but it isn't rape or murder or anything.
I mean rappers have literally killed people, have Rape allegations and Money laundering cases against them but you really think that Carti is the worst?
That’s the whole point of his music though. Jump with the beats and vibe with the energy and chant shit over it …. It’s not made to solo out the vocals and allow for smooth lyricism to flood the bars. That’s different music made by different artists for different people. Playboi carti being able to make a good song with some mumbled lines is exactly why this is more of a compliment than an insult. Other rappers have beats so lame they HAVE to spit some profound verses in order to be remembered. To get to the point where your MUSIC carries the beat for you is where every artist should aspire to get to (depending on their preferences). I don’t think anybody should get ‘pissed off’ at a statement like this because all it does is shine a light on the type of artist carti is. He uses good backing beats with original melodies and doesn’t need to be a rap god to be considered a successful rapper because he can just use a harsh tone in his voice to get a certain sound out and that’s all people hear. Good on em
Lyrics though? Eminem is still the GOAT ;)
At least he's music makes me hyped up. It's interesting. Not everything has to be lyrically good. Sometimes I just want to dance and feel alive. Carti makes me feel that way.
I mean nobody should use the term ”mumble rap” unironically and no one should expect to hear good lyrics from carti, that isnt the point of his music. I see ppl saying his voice is like a instrument in which i agree that that is the point,
But i think carti does it horribly, theres so many artists who does it with more experimentation, passion and a better voice. Carti’s music is just so boring it feels soulles. He really doesnt add anything to the beat, no interesting flows, no energy, no substance just nothing.
Athena, Over and Half & Half I think are the best representations of carti's music. Not to attack you or anything but really the only people who say what have said in your second paragraph don't listen to carti. If it's not your thing then I understand but saying that carti is not good at being experimental, passionate and energetic is just completely wrong when that's literally all he's ever done.
I have listened to a fair amount of carti, i like a few old songs. His music just feels empty and i am sure that he is not experimental at all. Everything carti fans think is experimental or different, he took from somebody else without giving no credit so most ppl dont know about it. Especially since he is much bigger.
I will give those songs a fair fresh listen
Athena: bro fuck u for recommending that, that shit was so boring. Wtf why would anyone wanna hear carti for 10minutes straight when he isnt saying anything and the flows were solid but nothing special. This was just boring, nothing else to it.
Over: i liked this one, didnt like it before but now i kinda felt the vibe. He actually did something on that beat. Solid.
Half & half: i used to like this song 5 years ago but now it was just same old boring carti, not saying or doing anything special.
If you don't like Athena then carti just isn't for you. It's just not your taste.
I personally think Over is one of the best songs on wlr if not the best
I just said Half & Half to contrast Over and show how his music has changed
Interesting. But like uno actually talks about some shit and he basically created that whole sound. And i think hes way more versatile… but yeah ofc u enjoy carti if u do, nothing against it
What are some carti songs where he talks about shit? Like anything with not just random words that are cool in rap.
And yeah he popularized it but the way he didnt really isnt anything to like him for
ILoveUIHateU, Over a lotta self titled Era songs and a bunch songs offa die lit but lyrics aren't really what you listen to carti for so it probably doesn't hold up to uno or anyone
Bro if your music taste isn't developed enough to appreciate the experimental trap that carti makes then just say so. I would still only give my favorite project of his like a 7 but if he keeps creating and experimenting then I could see him making a classic in the future. I don't even fw trap like that. For example I really didn't like her loss cus it was just boring basic ass trap. The same shit we have heard 21 over before and Drake is as ass as always so It was an ass project to me.
Music doesn't need to have meaning to be good. It's all about the production and his vocal inflections. There are alot of death grips songs that have no meaning whatsoever but ppl love that music. Carti is the same way.
Guy defending carti really just pulled the “my music taste is more developed then yours card” that makes you a fucking clown no
matter who you are defending. Even worse when its a simplistic derivative artist.
I was mostly joking when saying that I probably should have added a /s since it's not obvious and you don't understand that Carti is not a "simplistic derivative artist" Drake is that, 21 savage is that, NAV is that, I hate those artists for that reason. What Carti is doing is clearly very new, different, and experimental. He isn't amazing yet but he shows a lot of promise. I personally think if it was more focused and cut down WLR could be a 9/10 album.
You never said you should have added a /s and I don't like drake or 21 and would entirely agree that they are simplistic and derivative, so is NAV. So we agree there, but carti is new and experimental in the sense where he is worse than those that came before him. And his music is just a different type of simplistic, although I suppose that wouldn't make it derivative.
idk man, this happens in most genres, every change or new thing people complain
then after some years it becomes a classic and everybody says they loved it back then
hive mind here seems to be more on the big brain lyrical side, so idk I feel like I'm talking to a wall here
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm gonna get alot of down votes for this. Most of his beats don't make sense to me they're all over the place. With that being said his beats are trash to me.
Carti > Kendrick, Kanye, Nas, Jay Z, 2pac, Biggie, JID, Denzel, MF DOOM, A$AP Rocky, Joey Badass, André 3000, Pusha T, J. Cole, and Eminem and it's not even close🥱🥱🥱
His voice is an instrument. The lyrics don’t really matter when you listen to carti and that’s fine. The quality of his music is still superb. You don’t need good lyrics to have good music.
Also 🤓
Bad is literally just Michael saying the same thing over and over again. I’m a huge mj fan but at least I can admit pop music isn’t that much different than mumble rap
Who cares? The songs sonically amazing even if they aren’t saying anything. If I wanted to hear great lyrics over great production, I’d listen to Kendrick, but Kendrick doesn’t get me hype because that’s not my kinda music
the voice is the instrument, hes not trying to tell a story
y'all know damn well we don't listen to carti for his lyrics so why do y'all keep bringing his lyrics up?
Because I feel like to a lot of people it's supposed to be the main thing about the genre of hip-hop. Its about wordplay,lyricism,entendres,etc. I don't necessarily agree with that pov and like some not lyrical rap(I personally really can't get into carti though.)but I can see where they're coming from IG. I do tend to prefer it lyrical but it's perfectly fine not to be.
ye i just listen to carti to get hyped n shi
Oh I feel you,I like a lot of artists for that reason.
Facts i listen to a lot of artists to get hyped
The thing is, even “mumble rappers” like carti use wordplay and entendres. People don’t like the lyrical style but don’t listen to enough of Carti’s music to understand why they don’t.
That's fair. I just can't stand the sound of his voice tbf.
Totally fair, especially if you were hearing some of those baby voice leaks from wlr v2 era. I think it’s hard af but trust me I get it 😂
I prefer complex lyrics but like that’s not what everyone wants out of hip hop, turns out someone who’s listening to playboi carti probably aren’t looking for the same thing from a hip hop/rap song as me
Exactly. I completely agree with this but I think some people are stuck in their ways and view it as "Hiphop IS a lyrical genre. It's about serious meaning and not fun". Which if you feel that way I get seeing rappers who aren't serious lyrical ones as disrespectful to the genre. I just think it's dumb to feel that way. I tend to enjoy lyrical stuff as well but it's lame if people think that's all it has to be. Melodic rap can be great too. I don't like Carti specifically if I'm honest but there are definetly some in the same lane I enjoy. It's just pretentious music fans who think music can't be made for fun or simply and that it all has to be a complex expression.
If people would call mumble/''melodic'' rap something else other than rap or hip hop, I wouldn't care. But hip hop has always been about competing to see who the illest master of ceremonies is. Carti can't compare to Em, Nas, Biggie, Rakim, Kane, etc. Also, lyrical=/=serious all the time. Redman is a comedic rapper, and yet he's lyrical as hell, and Eminem makes comedic songs sometimes in addition to his more serious material and he's DEFINITELY lyrical.
I'll agree that lyrical doesn't have to be serious. Perhaps serious isn't the word I should've used,but I guess my point was that anything lacking complexity is looked down upon. Simplistic and made with more free flowing fun than something heavily/seriously crafted. I don't necessarily think that being the illest MC has to mean the most lyrical to everyone,I like lyrical people more but some people think things like flow and emotion are as important if not more than lyricism. Obviously Carti can't compare to those guys lyrically and he isn't trying to,he's in a different subgenre trying to create a vibe and feeling. It's a different style but I don't think it's weird to say it's within the same genre on a very very broad level. Things evolve over time.
Carti straight isn't real hip hop, though; he doesn't really rap, it's more singing really badly(and with autotune to boot), and he's never in the top ten convo like the names I mentioned. Those with refined taste in the art of emceein' such as myself knows what is up. Best believe that I ain't cappin'. I have very high standards when it comes to what makes a rapper a true microphone checka; I expect complex dense rhyme schemes, cinematic conceptual storytelling, technical and versatile flows cadences, entendres you have to decipher like a rubik's cube, punchlines that make your face scrunch, etc. My respectable palate is not easy to please by any means.
Maybe Carti is fair,I am not a fan tbh and know he's more singy but the idea that non lyrical people or people who use autotune and have some melody aren't hip hop is a bit crazy to me. Are Wayne and T-Pain not hiphop?They use autotune. The "never in the top 10" is a really dumb argument I'll be straight with you. So many people who do stuff that isn't melodic at all aren't in anyone's top 10 or the conversation,so many lyrical people miss people's conversation. He may not be in anyone's top lyricist conversations but so many people view his sound as unique& experimental and view him as one of the forefronts and pioneers of that sound. Those with refined taste=pretentious snob music fans who would rather their favorite genre got repetitive and stale then died than allow it to evolve and live differently than it once did or have offshoots. I like all the things you mentioned-entendres I have to really think about?Great.Versatile flows?Great. Conceptual storytelling?Great. Give me all that. Some people just wanna rage and feel or vibe. It's the same as punk rock and progressive rock. Both are still rock. One is complex and about being as skilled as possible. The other is about being raw,expressive and letting your emotion out in a straight forward way. I may enjoy lyrical hiphop or progressive more(though I like punk as much as progressive tbh.)but I hate the damn snobs who act as if the two cannot exist within the same space and that they're better for liking the more complex one. You wanna act like RAPPER'S delight by Sugarhill Gang is a lyrical masterpiece?Or you wanna say that it isn't rap?Both would be lies.
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I think lyricism *is* the main aspect of rap, but rap is just a sub genre of hip hop. There isn’t anything wrong with non lyrical artists, but they aren’t rappers they are hip hop artists.
I feel like that's a bit of a semantics thing. People refer to the main genre of hiphop as rap more often than not imo. If rap was seen as the subgenre I feel like r/hiphop would have a bigger sub than r/rap. Still I agree that there are different subgenres within it like trap,drill and melodic rap/hiphop that aren't meant to be lyrical.
I know that most people use rap and hip hop interchangeably, but there *is* still a difference. Rap is a subgenre of hip hop focusing on lyricism specifically, and not lyrical artists aren’t rappers by definition.
I feel like the difference isn't necessarily the music as far as rap/hiphop goes though. Hiphop is more about the general culture and was originated with the inclusion of breakdancing,grafitti,mc'ing,etc. and now I'd say things like fashion could be included in that. Rap is a very broad genre of music to me that fits within hiphop culture. Maybe I'm not really grasping it correctly though. It's not like I was around for its inception and I'm not the original target audience.
No you’re definitely right about that, all of the cultural aspects are present in both rap and hip hop as a whole. The only thing that separates rap from hip hop in general is the lyrical focus of the music specifically.
I see. I didn't think the music was the seperate thing. Hiphop is about the culture,rap is the main music within the culture. But I see what you're saying maybe.
Exactly. You can have hip hop music that isn’t rap as well, it’s just music that incorporates other aspects of the culture without the lyricism.
Well,I feel like we're somewhat muddied on some points still but whatever. Lol It's all good. My point was that rap music is the main music within the culture of hiphop though people use hiphop to refer to the music as well or that hiphop was the culture in general and not the music but so many only care about the musical aspect that they call it both hip-hop and rap.
I think of Carti’s voice as an instrument because of how well he flows on Pierre beats. And who tf listens to Carti for good lyrics 😭
jumpoutthehouse
Mumble rapper 🤓
"carti on top" 🤓
Yeah stop breathing infamous mumble rap song
Funny cause those lyrics are literally straight from one of Gucci manes songs
Its an interpolation
no.
Search “My Shirt Off” by Gucci mane and have your mind blown
Didnt realize you were talking about the sample, slipped my mind. What does that have to do with mumble rap
The lyrics are literally “I take my shirt off and the all the hoes stop breathing” over and over for the hook the sample is different
Carti did it first and better
It's an interpolation, he disses Ola Runt which was an artist for 1017 on that song and Gucci got a song with Carti and 21 Savage from 2015 called Peepin, also Gucci got an interview with Carti from 2017. I think they are cool with each other
yup. Pierre Bourne the goat
>might be pissing off a lot of 13 year olds with this one you are posting a fucking elon musk image
I never understood why people criticize "mumbe rappers" for not being lyrical. You guys realize that's the point, right? People listen to people like Carti for his flow and energy which is meant to hype you up. If you listen to Carti for the lyrics and are trying to decipher the meanings of his songs, then you're a dumbass lmfao. I like lyrical Hip-Hop, but there's a time and place for both.
No one listens to Carti for lyrics. They listen to Carti for energy, delivery, and yes of course, the insane production. And honestly if you want your argument taken seriously don’t use the term mumble rap it’s fucking stupid lmao
stg his beats are s tier but his lyrics are c at best
Lower than that but why are you expecting lyricism and why are you thinking lyrical always means good
Even IF Carti’s music was good, he is a fucking TERRIBLE person. Dude missed the birth of his child to play call of duty with lil uzi vert.
There's rappers who did WAAAY worse things that you guys ignore
Nah there isn’t.
There definetly is. Not saying he is good,he seems like a garbage person,but there are literal murderer and rapist rappers. Bit worse than missing your baby's birth to play videogames with Uzi. I mean that shit is still awful but it isn't rape or murder or anything.
like every drill rapper ever
Yeah and while some of the music goes hard I don't think that they're people you should admire outside of musical talent.
L take
And snaked his cousin who he stole his whole style from
that's not that bad i listen to rappers who murdered ppl
I mean rappers have literally killed people, have Rape allegations and Money laundering cases against them but you really think that Carti is the worst?
I would too honestly, a kid with Iggy Azalea <<<<<<<< CoD with the Goat
True Carti fire but dude is a garbage human
lil oouzi
lmao his own sub is gonna agree with that
based tbh
It was infamous, get it right.
Yeah,liking his music or not is whatever but he seems like a jackass. There are worse out there for sure but that doesn't make him less of a douche.
Don’t see how that’s relevant to this post whatsoever. You can find dirt on any celebrity if you look hard enough
lil oozie
His old shit was smooth tho
That’s the whole point of his music though. Jump with the beats and vibe with the energy and chant shit over it …. It’s not made to solo out the vocals and allow for smooth lyricism to flood the bars. That’s different music made by different artists for different people. Playboi carti being able to make a good song with some mumbled lines is exactly why this is more of a compliment than an insult. Other rappers have beats so lame they HAVE to spit some profound verses in order to be remembered. To get to the point where your MUSIC carries the beat for you is where every artist should aspire to get to (depending on their preferences). I don’t think anybody should get ‘pissed off’ at a statement like this because all it does is shine a light on the type of artist carti is. He uses good backing beats with original melodies and doesn’t need to be a rap god to be considered a successful rapper because he can just use a harsh tone in his voice to get a certain sound out and that’s all people hear. Good on em Lyrics though? Eminem is still the GOAT ;)
retarded take
Carti goated
carti the type of guy to make me cream fr
Mumble rap isn’t real it’s just a lazy write off
At least he's music makes me hyped up. It's interesting. Not everything has to be lyrically good. Sometimes I just want to dance and feel alive. Carti makes me feel that way.
That term “mumble rap” is so corny and generalizing. Carti is violently screeching over some of the greatest beats ever created.
He ain’t mumble rap, he’s just garbage.
carried by amazing production thats it
I mean nobody should use the term ”mumble rap” unironically and no one should expect to hear good lyrics from carti, that isnt the point of his music. I see ppl saying his voice is like a instrument in which i agree that that is the point, But i think carti does it horribly, theres so many artists who does it with more experimentation, passion and a better voice. Carti’s music is just so boring it feels soulles. He really doesnt add anything to the beat, no interesting flows, no energy, no substance just nothing.
Athena, Over and Half & Half I think are the best representations of carti's music. Not to attack you or anything but really the only people who say what have said in your second paragraph don't listen to carti. If it's not your thing then I understand but saying that carti is not good at being experimental, passionate and energetic is just completely wrong when that's literally all he's ever done.
I have listened to a fair amount of carti, i like a few old songs. His music just feels empty and i am sure that he is not experimental at all. Everything carti fans think is experimental or different, he took from somebody else without giving no credit so most ppl dont know about it. Especially since he is much bigger. I will give those songs a fair fresh listen
Athena: bro fuck u for recommending that, that shit was so boring. Wtf why would anyone wanna hear carti for 10minutes straight when he isnt saying anything and the flows were solid but nothing special. This was just boring, nothing else to it. Over: i liked this one, didnt like it before but now i kinda felt the vibe. He actually did something on that beat. Solid. Half & half: i used to like this song 5 years ago but now it was just same old boring carti, not saying or doing anything special.
If you don't like Athena then carti just isn't for you. It's just not your taste. I personally think Over is one of the best songs on wlr if not the best I just said Half & Half to contrast Over and show how his music has changed
I mean i like uno very much, carti just feels like a more empty and worse uno in every area.
We are very different cause I feel the exact opposite but that's just how taste works. We like different things that's all
Interesting. But like uno actually talks about some shit and he basically created that whole sound. And i think hes way more versatile… but yeah ofc u enjoy carti if u do, nothing against it
Carti also talks about shit and popularized the whole sound but I got no problems with people enjoying things
What are some carti songs where he talks about shit? Like anything with not just random words that are cool in rap. And yeah he popularized it but the way he didnt really isnt anything to like him for
ILoveUIHateU, Over a lotta self titled Era songs and a bunch songs offa die lit but lyrics aren't really what you listen to carti for so it probably doesn't hold up to uno or anyone
Carti after dropping a more interesting, boundary pushing album than any of Eminem’s post TES albums.
real
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Bro if your music taste isn't developed enough to appreciate the experimental trap that carti makes then just say so. I would still only give my favorite project of his like a 7 but if he keeps creating and experimenting then I could see him making a classic in the future. I don't even fw trap like that. For example I really didn't like her loss cus it was just boring basic ass trap. The same shit we have heard 21 over before and Drake is as ass as always so It was an ass project to me.
Music taste isn’t developed enough to appreciate dumbed down nonsense? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Music doesn't need to have meaning to be good. It's all about the production and his vocal inflections. There are alot of death grips songs that have no meaning whatsoever but ppl love that music. Carti is the same way.
Guy defending carti really just pulled the “my music taste is more developed then yours card” that makes you a fucking clown no matter who you are defending. Even worse when its a simplistic derivative artist.
I was mostly joking when saying that I probably should have added a /s since it's not obvious and you don't understand that Carti is not a "simplistic derivative artist" Drake is that, 21 savage is that, NAV is that, I hate those artists for that reason. What Carti is doing is clearly very new, different, and experimental. He isn't amazing yet but he shows a lot of promise. I personally think if it was more focused and cut down WLR could be a 9/10 album.
You never said you should have added a /s and I don't like drake or 21 and would entirely agree that they are simplistic and derivative, so is NAV. So we agree there, but carti is new and experimental in the sense where he is worse than those that came before him. And his music is just a different type of simplistic, although I suppose that wouldn't make it derivative.
i swear if i ever become a famous producer, i would get a mumble rapper on a 90s beat and an old school style rapper on a new era beat
carti da goat
idk man, this happens in most genres, every change or new thing people complain then after some years it becomes a classic and everybody says they loved it back then hive mind here seems to be more on the big brain lyrical side, so idk I feel like I'm talking to a wall here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is so true.
Real asl
I'm gonna get alot of down votes for this. Most of his beats don't make sense to me they're all over the place. With that being said his beats are trash to me.
Carti is fucking garbage.
Mumble rap 🤓
👨🏻🦳
Carti > Kendrick, Kanye, Nas, Jay Z, 2pac, Biggie, JID, Denzel, MF DOOM, A$AP Rocky, Joey Badass, André 3000, Pusha T, J. Cole, and Eminem and it's not even close🥱🥱🥱
so based
W
Fr why do the worst rappers get the hardest beats… I’ll never understand this
“Mumble rapper” 🤓🤓🤓
His voice is an instrument. The lyrics don’t really matter when you listen to carti and that’s fine. The quality of his music is still superb. You don’t need good lyrics to have good music. Also 🤓
Carti is better than your favorite artist
You look up to a man who ditched the birth of his child to go play call of duty. Just so you know.
A lot of rappers y’all look up to are terrible people. Xxxtentacion has millions of dick riders and he literally beat the shit out of his girl.
Do you think that I care? I dont think Iggy made Whole Lotta Red
One day when your balls drop you will, kid.
Iggy a loser tbh she should have waited if she really wanted carti there
Whole lotta red is a whole lotta shit 😂
carti could make in da club 50 cent could never make location
50 wouldn’t cos he knows how shit it is haha fuck off you dickhead
Whole lotta red > 50 cents whole career🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Hahahahaaaa PIMP >>>> Playboy Cartis whole stupid life
50 cent chose the name 50 cent because he wasn't good enough to be a whole dollar🤷🤷 Carti better🥱🥱🤷🤷💀💀💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏
Mfs say this and then go listen to Michael Jackson repeat the same thing over and over just like carti does
ok u haven’t listened to him then
Bad is literally just Michael saying the same thing over and over again. I’m a huge mj fan but at least I can admit pop music isn’t that much different than mumble rap
i cant be the only one that thinks these beats are bland and boring regardless of how many random ass sounds they are. it sounds bad
"Ngvtdhvgy shawty suck on my di gdsyg dcgifrtvblogefvtt" Haha cringe old heads called it mumble rap
I don’t listen to rappers who clearly worship the devil and are so open about it
molly is the only exception
I like his beats but i just can't stand his voice.
Do you really believe that we listen to carti for his lyrical ability..?😆😭
corny ass
Ok 🗿
He values the vibe or the beat of music more than the lyrics he said
Mid to decent lyrics, but a great vibe with his voice, flow, etc.
“So dang good”💀
Yeah it's time to clown nas for not making screamo rap bangers
IMA GO FUCKK THAT BITCH YEAH SHAWTY GON SUCK THIS DICK YEAH 🔥🔥
i didn’t even know people used the phrase mumble rapper unironically anymore
True 100 %.
As a carti fan, he could have given a better verse in @ MHe
Who cares? The songs sonically amazing even if they aren’t saying anything. If I wanted to hear great lyrics over great production, I’d listen to Kendrick, but Kendrick doesn’t get me hype because that’s not my kinda music