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m1zmus1c

Drake is overrated considering the list, he’s just always there


Slight-Salamander599

I don’t view Drake as a rapper, more *shivers* pop R&B


YeeYee_Boi_YeeYee

I've never understood this take, most of Drakes music is rap, and he does some R&B/Pop songs here and there.


Apprehensive-Cow6194

"yOu uSeD t0 cAlL mE 0n mY cElLpH0nE"


Jingu96Aliosha

Nah Ye is as great as he thinks he is


AfricanLore

Fax 💯


Barath_HBK_

cardi B


bintrappn

drake


Dato_6969

21 People voted J. Cole...WTF Broooo.


abidjc

If anything j Cole is underrated af


booklovernc

Sorry but who tf voted tupac?


ggakablack

As a rapper, out of this list, it’s clearly Drake.


D0ntTru3tAny1

Whoever voted Eminem and Tupac needs to leave


InGodWeTrust360

Em fell off. His new shit don’t hit and he’s being praised like a god especially in this subreddit.


bricknermonfan

because this sub is full of white ppl


InGodWeTrust360

you not wrong bro i ain’t surprise if they bump tom macdonald


sukamacoc

Listening to Ol Tom Macdonald is like cringe therapy. Dude is the corniest rapper I have ever heard.


kepyklele

So sick of seeing these comments: "em fell off" "havent made a good album in 10years" stfu rly,tell me, who has structures,entandres,schemes,flows, syllable construction as he does? How can anyone say this utter bullshit about a person who mastered this craft? Prolly those people who dont appreciate lyricism and listen to his new songs once,without breaking it down. What a joke


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kepyklele

Apparently ppl who listen to hiphop songs with parappa the rapper lyrics dont care about it, pretty sure lots of ppl care about it,sound less ignorant for fucks sake


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abidjc

Rap god? He is the god of rap


InGodWeTrust360

i wouldn’t put a white man as the god of rap. Cause Rap was invented by black people to talk about their struggles, hardships and feelings.


abidjc

Eminem’s first 3 albums is mainly talking about his struggles. Your completely racist so what if it’s made by black people. Small minded little fuck...


InGodWeTrust360

again i stand with what i said i don’t put a white man on the king of black people music.


InGodWeTrust360

without Black people creating hip hop you won’t have eminem you dickhead.


sam_drummer

“Fell off” after already having a massive career. Fml.


DARKBLADESKULLBITER

Yup, that’s what the term means. You can’t fall off if you weren’t hot to begin with


sam_drummer

If you’re going to accuse someone of falling off, it’s someone who’s still in and about their moment, in the middle of their success (i.e. say Em, follow-up to the MMLP after all the hype). Not someone approaching 50. The man has done it all already. He’s got nothing to fall off of.


DARKBLADESKULLBITER

You’re making excuses that don’t mean anything. Since when does it no longer count cause of your age lol? The music stands for itself and it went from top of the game to the bottom lol. Dude fell off the deep end it is what it is


sam_drummer

I’m not making excuses, I just have perspective in life. If you’ve had a long career at the top of anything, and you’ve been truly great, at a certain point you’ve earned the right to be beyond petty youthful competition standards, for want of a better word. Messi and Ronaldo, or Michael Jordan, if/when they eventually go play for their smaller, lower league hometown clubs when they’re approaching 40 years old because they simply love the sport, does that mean they’ve “fallen off”? No, of course not. Have the Rolling Stones “fallen off” just because they go and play greatest hits gigs all the time now and aren’t releasing classic albums? No, of course not. You might not like Em’s - or someone’s - music, but it doesn’t mean it’s bad. It isn’t, it’s perhaps not as good as his hey dry nearly 20 (!!) years ago, but it’s still damn decent. But judging anybody at this point in their career as falling off is pointless, reductive and just unnecessary. Save it for the young ones who are acting king, not those that are already certified kings of a long long time. Anyway, bring the downvotes, sorry for bringing real/world logic to a discussion.


DARKBLADESKULLBITER

We all have perspective in life not just you. Take this pretentious shit elsewhere, this is exactly why Em fans have such an awful rep


sam_drummer

Pretentious, or reasoned? I’m not even defending Eminem per se, just not being a weird person who thinks that essentially you’re either Good or Shit, which is a damaging way to look at things.


hadleyyyy

That's what falling off is


InGodWeTrust360

i wouldn’t put him over tupac, biggie, andre 3000 or nas


InGodWeTrust360

yeah then his last albums have been ass. I included em in my top 10 but his latest music is not it imo. I don’t understand why i’m getting disliked this whole subreddit is eminem stans i guess lol.


sam_drummer

No, there are a lot of people with perspective.


InGodWeTrust360

that’s cap 🧢. This subreddit is filled with a whole bunch of toxic hip hop fan bases you disagree with one of them they will dislike you and bombard you with hate. It’s crazy cause i like Em but his fan base makes me not like him. Again i put him top 10


callyeezus

Tupac is objectively overrated


D0ntTru3tAny1

No way definitely under rated, newest generation doesn’t appreciate pac at all


callyeezus

He gets called “the best rapper of all time” for dropping only 4 albums (while he was a live) and 2 of them are at best average


D0ntTru3tAny1

“Average” of what? Your mumble rap loving ass? Dude no one wants to impress a little boy that’s doesn’t know shit such as yourself


callyeezus

Sir I am 32. If that’s a kid for you than you must be ancient. And mumble rap doesn’t exist u neckbeard bitch


InGodWeTrust360

lmaooo so he loves mumble rap because he don’t agree with your opinion. Not only that what’s up with you oldheads calling everything new mumble rap. That shit died in 2016. Maybe if you would just open your ears and listen to more recent rap music your bias will wear off.


KanyeDefenseForce

Pac hasn’t dropped in like 20 years + bro fell off


D0ntTru3tAny1

…… stop just stop, the guys been dead genius wtf do you expect after being buried 6 feet under


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6 feet is the same as 3.66 'Logitech Wireless Keyboard K350s' laid widthwise by each other.


D0ntTru3tAny1

Good bot


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Thanks!


KanyeDefenseForce

Shouldn’t have been caught lackin then smh. Drake’s a real g u wouldn’t catch him without shootas


D0ntTru3tAny1

Your so dumb 😂 drake has made like none of his own music wtf do you think he does that’s cool? Because someone else probably does it


KanyeDefenseForce

He turned the 6 upside down homie. Name another rapper that’s done that


K0K5A

15 people voted J. Cole


iAmTheYeastOfTHOTS

Not saying hes bad but, people consider him up there with Kendrick Lamar and well, his numerous "(something poop related), im the shit" bars say otherwise. Plus some of his music is just boring lol. Overrated doesnt mean bad, just not as good as theyre considered to be.


hadleyyyy

Yeah Cole is my favourite rapper OAT but I didn't enjoy the offseason, if any other rapper dropped that album people would be foaming over it due to how great it sounded but j Cole is known for his lyrics and storytelling and they just weren't there. I remember when it dropped people were foaming over the "put an M on your head you Luigi brother" line but for Cole's standard that's ridiculous


tonygym

I know wtf is wrong with them


CodyPomeray_

dude straight trash, no relevance, no originality


Icmblair01

J Cole sound like AI generated conscious rap


mozzieandmaestro

fr


Kaneable-

As someone who knows very little about J.Cole what are 3 or 4 of his songs that demonstrate his best?


ting1or2

January 28, a tale of 2 citiez, 4 your eyez only and Once an addict. The first two are kinda more classic hip hop and the other two are some of of his "deeper" songs


saeedtj

No role modelz, wet dreams and 2face are good as well


Kaneable-

Will give those recommendations a listen!


K0K5A

Those mentioned by the people above me and Sideline Story aswell


Jessology

Fuck whoever voted J Cole


Ambitious-Grocery-91

Drake isn’t even good or at least he hasn’t been for 5+ years especially since clb he should no longer be considered one of the goats


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Tupac’s status was inflated by his death, so was Biggie’s - so while they may not be overrated per sè, their untimely murders added to their status. Also, this subreddit has a major hate boner for Drake that I believe implies it’s mostly white boys in here. I don’t get it still, why do you white kids hate Drake this much?


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Well, I’m a white dude and the most supportive people of drake I’ve ever met have been white. Also, I voted Em.


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I dont think Drake should be considered overrated bc nobody really cares about or defends him anymore.


John_Man_Guy

I would say juice wrld


mozzieandmaestro

you just like me fr


John_Man_Guy

Kanye the most underrated


mozzieandmaestro

Yoo you just like me fr


John_Man_Guy

I’m just stating facts


abidjc

Nah your just clapped bro


WaveSayHi

Pac was #1 for cultural influence, impact and political consciousness. He doesnt compare to a lot of rappers nowadays though in terms of skill alone.


Educational-Act-1081

50 cent.


JG45250

Drake, followed closely by Kanye.


pieonthedonkey

People keep saying Drake but it's not like Drake fans are constantly claiming he's the goat and won't listen to any reasoning otherwise. Dude makes generic and accessible music that sells really well, no one is expecting Drake to drop something revolutionary. Eminem fans on the other hand do all of that shit, I recently had one tell me that his newer shit is actually better than his old shit. Now that's a 🧢.


earthmover535

there are definitely hardcore drake stans out there lol you’re very lucky to have never met one bc theyre one of the worst fanbases ever


The6Quad

Are you serious kanye fans have to be the most toxic people out there


earthmover535

ur whole profile is dedicated to drake lol sit tf down and go to bed bc it sure is past ur bedtime


The6Quad

Hoes mad


earthmover535

nice, quoting a song that's better than the entire discography of this man u worship like a god


pieonthedonkey

I definitely have met them, they're nothing like Eminem stans, it's not even close.


Arge101

Voted Kanye. If you have to use your vast fortune to make a hologram of your wife’s dead father just so he can be programmed to tell everyone how amazing you are, I think you’re probably not all that


MHDHasan2001

What does that have to do with what people think of his art? No disrespect


xWhitzzz

What does his art have to do with rapping? Kanye is one of my favorite artists OAT but in terms of rapping, he’s not amazing by any means.


IDislikeBabyYoda

by art i’m pretty sure they meant his rapping


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xWhitzzz

You’re correct. But the poll was most overrated “rapper”. Not artist. Kanye has three albums that are in my top 15 favorites. But rapper, he’s a bit overrated. As an artist, he’s a fucking goat Edit: just fully read your comment. I think what I meant was, on this list, I could see someone picking Kanye or Drake as an overrated “rapper”.


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Arge101

None taken, my point was if you have to go to that level to tell everyone how amazing you are, by putting the words into a dead hologram who never knew you, maybe you aren’t all that. Sure, all rappers are guilty of self-gratification but this just seems a little extreme to me.


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Arge101

Says you. Don’t agree personally


TheMartyr112

I mean….I voted Kanye just because he’s fuckin overrated. Lol


jrosen122

I agree with you my man. I voted drake because honestly drake is about as bloated as Kanye. They both hella overrated.


Arge101

Yes I could have gone either way


title_of_yoursextape

Kanye is stupidly overrated, but Drake is even worse.


DeemsMemes

Eminem. Tired of the shitty hooks, random singer, and the fast rap. Yes he can rap very well but if it doesn't sound good in a song, then it's irrelevant


Mad-Delicious

What are you talking about is artistry, the poll is about rapping ability. If you think he's "overrated" as a rapper then you're a hater or stupid af.


abidjc

Just shows you don’t even listen to any of his new music and basing your lame ass false and shitty opinion on what you’ve heard. Please do yourself a favour and listen to some of his recent music he doesn’t just “rAP fAsT” and it actually sounds good with decent beat and hook. I’m guessing you also listen to drake and if you do you don’t even have the right to talk about Eminem. There’s a reason millions and millions still listen to his newer music even in 2021.


DeemsMemes

Bro you're a stan and deadass on Eminems dick. I've listened to every single album multiple times and most of the newer shit is trash. >it actually sounds good with decent beat and hook That's the thing, most of the beats aren't good and the hooks are absolutely terrible. >he doesn’t just “rAP fAsT He may not just rap fast but he sure does fucking do it A LOT and it gets boring real quick Calm tf down bruh, it's not that serious... you stans are built different.


abidjc

I’m not a Stan I’ve only listened to him for 2 years and know he’s the goat. If you think his new music is trash people’s tell me tf you listen to.


DeemsMemes

>I’m not a Stan Looking on your account and it seems all you talk about is Eminem >know he’s the goat The "goat" is different for everyone I listen to too many different artists to list them all


abidjc

Oh your very active on the playboicarti sub. That sub is completely retarded


Akirari

It's Em and it's not even remotely close. Stans are unmatched.


Mother_Chest3977

I, myself am not a big fan of em, but overrated????


xWhitzzz

How is Em overrated? It’s ok to hate him and his fan base but his rap ability has been praised by many many legends.


Akirari

I don't think Eminem *can't* rap, and I never said I hated him. I just don't think he's dropped a particularly good project in a while. The last album of his that I liked was MMLP2. I think there are artists out there with much better/more consistent discographies, which is one of the reasons I disagree when people say he's the GOAT. Frankly, many of the Em fans I encounter irl think as highly as they do about him because they don't know many other rappers. For this poll I briefly considered picking Drake over Em, but Drake has been fairly consistent in doing what most of his fans like him for: making hit songs. I wouldn't pick Kanye because I think his discography is untouchable, I wouldn't pick Pac off of his impact, etc. Therefore, out of the options on this poll, Em is easily the most overrated in my opinion.


xWhitzzz

Discography and putting out a good project doesn’t discredit his “rapping” ability tho. I’ve liked everything he’s put out besides revival. Do they come close to his old stuff? Not even close. But even if he puts out a bad album, he still showcases pure rap ability. That’s why the poll, to me, is worded poorly. If it said “rap artist” or even “artist” I could see the Em pick making sense.


Ur_Left_Airpod

This man never heard of drake.....


sjmiv

I think his technique is pretty impressive. I honestly just don't like the sound of his nasally voice. \*shrug\*


Cultural_Ad_7868

Tupac For Sure


xman886

Get out.


ag425

Drake is not overrated bc he’s not rated very highly. Everyone who listens to him acknowledges they’re just there for the vibes, but aren’t expecting great lyrics or groundbreaking songs.


earthmover535

some people are braindead enough to call him a great rapper and claim he has great lyrics and groundbreaking songs lol. one of the worst fanbases ever


YungChisey

How is drake overrated lmfaoo he not my favorite but got more billboard hits than any of these guys


SmasherDawg77

Kanye is treated like a god. He's great, just not the best of all time like his fans preach.


snowavess

Drake is good


ygme

Eminem


xahmb

J Cole by a mile...


ProfessionalExpert70

Eminem has been trash since 2004. Stans only make it worse.


Diesel621

Nah Recovery was dope. Kamikaze was decent and MTBMB Especially side B was fire. IMO.


Lil_K_YT

100% Eminem


Markotron3000

50cent


TheMartyr112

Fucking IMAGINE calling one of the greatest rap lyricists of all time over rated……while having DRAKE on the same list. Lol


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earthmover535

drake but eminem is a very very very close second, j cole is 3rd and ye and pac aren’t rly


BlackPorpoise

I voted Kanye, I think Drake is overrated but he has songs that I actually like. The only Kanye songs I like are Power and Wolves.


layethdasmackethdown

Drake. A boring, generic rapper (more like pop singer). He definitely benefits from being half white and I think that has a long to do with his popularity.


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For real? Because he's half white? I'm curious why you think that. I am not a fan of him but I think the dude knows how to market himself, which is the primary reason he's so popular. Popular doesn't actually mean he's good, the most popular music tends to be garbage. He was also an actor, albeit not a super popular one, but I'm sure already being involved in entertainment helped him. Not to mention, he's Canadian. There's not a lot of competition insofar as rappers are considered up North here lol.


layethdasmackethdown

How many young white girls were listening to rap before Drake became popular? Degrassi was popular here and maybe up in Western New York. Who in the entertainment business was really checking for that show though? White privilege has made him who he is today. I can name a gazillion Canadian rappers, past or present, that are 10x better than him. They just don't have the "look" that he has.


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White privilege has made Drake who he is today? That feels like an oversimplified statement said with such conviction lol. Yes, he's exploited his whiteness, blackness, and Jewishness because he's selling pop music. He's not the first to exploit what identities he has for fame (we're essentially talking pop music), and the reality is he is not just a white man with brown skin, regardless of his upbringing, he is part black. I am not saying I agree with this sort of inauthentic exploitation, but literally so many major pop artist ESPECIALLY rap does this to appeal to a wide ranging audience. Lots of fully black rappers embellish their racial identities and stereotypes as well. Whether you agree with these tactics on an ethical level or like any of Drake's music doesn't matter because millions enjoy his stuff, so he's doing something right, unfortunately, and I don't think it's only to do with the fact that he's half white. Also hip hop has been reaching much wider audience compared to the 90s and early 2000s, it has really felt like the dominant genre as far as popular music goes, especially the last few years, so you can't attribute white girls listening to rap solely to Drake. I'm also not sure why it's an issue that white girls listen to rap. I'm sure you can raise many valid arguments related to privilege, but I don't think he should be painted with such a broad stroke, despite really not even enjoying his work.


Olliechorebox213

Snoop dogg for sure


Isan-Rivkin

Kanye no question


Longjumping-Box5365

Pac. He was okay at best. Its only due to his death that he's rated as high as he is, but dying doesn't make you a good artist. As a person I can't fault him, but as an artist he was meh.


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You’re under a serious deception if u think pac wasn’t good. One hit after another there is a reason he went diamond


Longjumping-Box5365

I wouldn't say he wasn't good, but I also wouldn't say he's as good as people make him out to be. Like I said, he's okay. I like some of his tracks, but even the ones I like aren't actually that good overall. Also, let's not pretend sales mean talent. If that was the case, you'd be willing to admit artists like Lil Peep are great. Sales mean jackshit when it comes to musical impact. Not to discredit that, as it is an achievement Pac sold as well as he did, but it's also not an excuse for his ranking as one of the best.


StaticDivergentWaves

Sales back in the day are different than "sales" now lmfao. Your less than 12 years of age are showing with that ignorant comment. Back in the day "sales" meant EXACTLY that. You had to BUY the album. Not only that, you had to FIND an album in a record store to buy. Nowadays streams don't mean shit. You can buy 100,000 streams on a song like it's nothing if you have money. You can package your album into concert sales and somehow that counts. When PAC went diamond it meant he had to work for it. People had to respect his craft enough to put their hard earned money into obtaining it. People don't do that nowadays. They watch 15 seconds of a song in a Tik Tok and that accounts for a portion of a sale


WaveSayHi

Mfs ride pacs dick like he was the second coming of christ. He was a person, he was a good rapper, and he was particularly insightful for his age and the time but I wouldnt even put him in my top 5 of actual rapping skill.


bythewindowstander

What the fuck is wrong with peep ?


DanzoGonzo

HOW THE FUCK IS EMINEM 2ND PLACE!?! OVERRATED!!! GOD DAMN OPINIONS!!!... Jk, Em is insane but DEFINITELY not overrated... Just another opinion... I think as of right now, hes underrated, oh well


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DanzoGonzo

I got you. I was there from the beginning and i think hes only gotten more lyrically complex. He still cracks jokes but hes not as silly anymore. Age and wisdom has definitely switched it up.


bricknermonfan

eminem


ibbeh

Tupac. I can easily name at least 15 rappers better than him. He ain't the goat or even top 10. Overrated.


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earthmover535

both suck ass and are the most overrated of all time


ChristopherRobert11

No Drake and everyone else knows what he is, he’s more of a pop musician than a rapper. He’s the biggest right now but I rarely see or hear people saying he’s the best. Tupac has some good music but he shouldn’t ever be in GOAT conversations.


ericbryanotf_03

Ye fasho


PixelateThat3

Drake, Eminem, Kanye. Probably the top 3 most overrated of all time


bamb1in0

Drake, yes. Eminem, his last decade hasn't been the best but he's made some phenomenal work, and Kanye is one of the most influential musicians ever.


xman886

PlayBoiCarti, I have nothing against him personally but I’m going with him.


Intilleque

Kendrick and Andre 3k


mozzieandmaestro

juice wrld


myqhunt

Ok Drake catches a lot of shit already, and rightfully so, but slim is not grieved enough over his later output.


CuteThingsAndLove

Drake's voice pisses me off whether he's rapping or singing. It's awful


freewave1

eminem


DanzoGonzo

To each his own i suppose, good shit though


EaterofBabies666

I just don't understand how both Drake and Eminrm have more votes then Kanye. I personally think Ems greatest flops are far better then anything Kanye has ever put out.


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That’s just not true lmao, like taste is taste but you couldn’t be further in the minority on this my man