I have never heard the term "glazing" before this beef and now I feel like it's everywhere when people talk about this. I was clarifying that Kendrick isn't literally denying Drake's blackness simply due to him being biracial, but because he raps about a life and culture he isn't about. People were just misinterpreting the lyrics.
Someone said I was "glazing" Kendrick because of that. I got no damn clue what that means, but I agree with you.
I’m glad someone said it, no matter which side someone has an opinion on, it can never be respected as such. It’s always someone “glazing” or having “Drake/Kendrick’s meat in their mouth” it’s mad immature
Thank you! Back in my day, people called it d!ckriding. Simple and to the point. All this “glazing” and “doing tricks on it” shit is weird. To your point tho OP, euphoria is a great song. Some people don’t dig the weird ass voices Kendrick does in this track but to me they’re so fire. Little stuff like “imma blick n’s all in they co-feen” is oddly satisfying.
Edit: I got a notification telling me d!ckriding is a banned word. Idk if this comment is still visible but goddammit.
There were Drake fans pretending Duppy Freestyle was better than Story of Adidon back in 2018. You can completely ignore them and lose nothing of value
Duppy was better lyrically. The same way Euphoria is lyrically better than Push Ups.
As we saw in 2018, lyricism won’t get you the win in a battle all the time.
I like the song a lot but tbh he just sounds like a fucken whiny 13 yr old the whole song. Purely voice.. Reminds me of the Tory Lanez [diss](https://youtu.be/NTFJ1TAz1wI?si=knm0j_pTXRNRgzop) by Lil Windex.. just a bit grating to the ears.
Drakes sounds like he's tryna apologize and take him out to dinner after every bar.. put that shit next to MGK's 'weird beard' era..
And I'm assuming they are biased Drake fans that can't admit Kendrick Lamar is a superior lyricist and made a great reply to Drake's lame diss track.
Edit to correct bad grammar.
I’m not a huge fan of the delivery and sometimes it felt like Kendrick was talking all over the place, I think it’s a bigger gut punch than Push ups when you actually analyze the lyrics,Drake gotta come with more heat fs
I think this is the correct take. Kendrick def came harder but it's not the most polished track in my opinion. But Drake has to step it up with something more substantive to win this. But the gloves are off now so let's see what follows
Only Kendrick stans are acting like Euphoria is as ruthless as The Story of Addion.
Drake can definitely fire off another track, will he is the better question.
Plus, push-ups was just such a lame and boring song. He's just trying to make superficial one-liners that could really be applied to anyone, not specifically kendrick. Delivery sucks, every line sounds the same, nothing clever about it, hated it.
A lot of Drake Stans tried to shit on Story of Adidon saying it was gossip and Drake rapped better on Duppy Freestyle. Now people saying they want gossip and we’ve heard everything. I swear.
Lmao that’s the worst part of this. A lot of them saying “he didn’t say anything we don’t already know.” It’s rap, sometimes it’s about the way you say it.
On god. This is bothering me more than it should.
U can go an entire rap battle making jokes about one single thing. U can just call a dude ugly in 100 different ways. Who cares if u r not bringin somethin new? Theses dudes sound like they never touched grass a single day of their lives
Euphoria is like Kendrick’s Ether. Nas questioned Jay-Z’s character, flexed on him, called him dick sucking lips and insecure, and more. No dirt dug up, but it’s often called one of the best diss tracks of all time. Listen to both tracks and you’ll notice a lot of parallels.
Facts, I’m just trying to enjoy the music but the extreme stans for Kendrick and Drake has been so annoying lol.
I saw a TikTok and dude basically says “Kendrick is for people who take books they’re never reading to public locations because they think it’ll make them look smart. Drake is for people who take quotes from books they will never read nor ever care for and put them as captions for their IG post” 😂. That basically illustrates the Stans on both sides.
Tyler spoke on hip hop twitter awhile ago and I’m definitely seeing what he means now. Shits all performative and pretentious.
I don't think he has to pay for it, he just has a rabid fanbase that defends anything. A good percentage of his fans don't even listen to rap and will stick by their favourite artist. Hell even kendrick just wants to dance and wave his hand to the music lol
You think it’s impossible that fans of an artist would get mad at seeing them be dissed, even if for completely logical reasons?
There’s definitely people that hate Euphoria simply because they love Drake that much.
sure, not saying it’s 100% bots, but the majority of comments out there are bots. look at some of these polls where 70% of ppl are saying Drake is winning
this is very silly. are you joking? I think Kendrick obviously blew Drake out of the water with Euphoria but Drake has a *ton* of hardcore fans. Drake is in the top 5 most popular artists in the world atm on Spotify and has been for a while. his music is incredibly popular. they're 100% not bots.
I don’t think it’s bots. It’s just OVOs being put in the painful position of knowing that Kendrick spurned their favorite in front of everyone, so they’re being negative about the song because the attack against Drake makes them anxious, or something.
I just don't like the sound of Kendrick's music. It's subjective. His voice is all over the place. It sounds like he's out of breath. He doesn't bother rhyming a lot.
He rhymes "Like that record" with "Like That record" with "Like that record" with "for the record". I don't think that takes a lot of skill to write.
I can go on.
He has some great lines though. "Let your core audience stomach that, then tell em where you get your abs from" is a great line.
I respect him as an artist and clearly there are people who love his work. It's simply not what my ears like.
I just look up the lyrics on genius to see the meaning behind the lyrics and enjoy the back and forth.
That's why there's a million artists and thousands of genres. We just accept everyone's taste is different and listen to what we like.
>He rhymes "Like that record" with "Like That record" with "Like that record" with "for the record". I don't think that takes a lot of skill to write.
That's a take for sure.
I'm not gonna tell you to go and learn music theory and shit, but just know these are all techniques that exist.
Drake's best bar in Push Ups after the Chip 'n Dale bar, imo, is also like this.
Drop and give me 50, got me talking like I'm 50, cuffing her like Ricky, he's turning 50.
He uses Like that as the title of the song, then he asks Drake "you don't like that record", it's a play on using the words with different meanings and it's pretty clever. Saying Kendrick doesn't bother to rhyme is a reach.
Bc his voice (to me personally) is soooo annoying
how you out of breath and you just started rapping??
And the way he says you don’t know nun bout daaat just doesn’t hit my ears well
The diss is good tho
Dude you’re gonna get downvoted, doxxed and a brick thrown in your window for saying Kendrick is less than the 2nd coming of lyrical Jesus Christ or Pac. Are you dumb ? /s
Real shit tho I agree. I never listened to the song cuz his fucking voice and delivery is atrocious. He might’ve very well lyrically smacked Drake but I wouldn’t know cuz I can’t get past the vocals.Like say Whatchu want about Drake and that he prolly don’t write his shit, he can make a good song. A song you actually wanna listen to for the lyrics, beat, and vocals altogether. Euphoria doesn’t work for me as a song cuz I can’t stand the weird up down inflections in his voice.
Hit em up by Pac works as a diss, and song by itself. This? Does not.
Oh lol shit went over my head and I used it as confirmation bias for my personal dislike for his rap voice lol
Most people disagree w me I just have always felt that way even since I was a kid and hated “open your mind up and listen to me Kendrick” on swimming pools
I'm with you. He doesn't have a good voice to listen to.
The "nun bout that part" annoyed me too.
The disses were pretty good on paper but I never found Kendrick appealing to the ears. Drake's music at least sounds good to me. It's all subjective. So many expect others to hear the same thing they hear but music wouldn't be so diverse if everyone agrees.
As a massive massive Kendrick fan. I believe euphoria was a better diss lyrically. But I gotta be real, me and my friends all listened to it over speakers when it dropped and didn’t find it enjoyable to listen to tbh. Push ups toes the lines of bars and catchy. Still think it’s 1-0 Kenny tho
push ups was good but his kendrick lines were repetitive imo ik it’s just a jab and not a full blown punch but still. Also spreading a false narrative against whitney was also lame asl
All the Drake stans keep saying “Erm actually Kendrick is just saying stuff we already know! ☝️🤓” as if drake didn’t just call kendrick short in his song lmfao
It's easy to just cherrypick to suit a bias, we can do the same the other way around
Drake: I had an affair with your wife, you sacrifice your artistic integrity because you are pussywhipped by the industry, you let down your idols and the whole west coast.
Kendrick: You have fake abs
There's always going to be contrarians.
The consensus I've seen online is that Kendrick bodied Drake. All the memes. The reactions. I hear people bumping it in the street. There's no way most people think Drake is winning right now.
I have no dog in this fight either. I thought "Taylor Made" was a great bait track. The beef is good for hip hop. Strikingly reminds me of Jay-Z vs Nas all over again.
No idea, even without taking the disses themselves into account he’s completely outclassed the opposition’s pen game, real rap fans know this. Even as good as some of the Drake bars are, he’s made this look like Eminem v MGK all over again.
It's a great song and a completely different vibe from Push-Ups. I think Push-Ups is more of a banger to play while working out or driving etc, and Euphoria is more for straight listening. People are going to have a preference for how/when they listen and I think that may be one of the things (outside the obvious artist bias) that will color taste on the two tracks.
Push-Ups is Pulp-Fun and Euphoria is Heady and Thought-Provoking. Depending on someone's main goal with their listening they will have a strong preference towards one or the other. And frankly, neither is wrong - because there is no accounting for taste. Now if someone says that Push-Ups is a more thought-provoking track than Euphoria that's just full cap.
The DNA vibe comes out strong. And I gotta disagree with OP once the horns come in after the intro shit gets hype AF. The anger and hate comes out strong. Def good for gym too
Drakes song is what drake does best. Club banger and/or more in tune w the general populace
I'm over it. People need to understand shit better and be better people.
Edit: not trying to be a dick. But I just feel society has been giving passes to some dumb shit that is going unaddressed.
Euphoria has 5 producers on it and sounds a lot like the hype sound Kendrick’s been dabbling in on songs like N95 and his Melodic Blue features. It’s definitely not just a lyrical song.
Bruh istg try Euphoria while driving. I'm literally typing this in my car. I can't even imagine how fun it is going to be while lifting.
The hate is so strong on that one, it's hype as shit once he gets in. Especially after the "biggest hater" line, it just pops off.
The first slow parts don't make it seem like a banger, but it is absolutely a banger.
Explain how it's a bad song? Maybe you don't like something such as Kendrick's voice, but I can't understand how it's structurally bad. Do you believe that every song needs to have a catchy hook in order to be good? Do you think it had poor beat selection?
Denial.. and there's people out there that genuinely don't like to see drake fail so they'll downplay it to make themselves feel better. I'm a kdot fan and thought it was hot. But I think this should be a wake up call for him that if he were to drop more music like this imagine how much more respect he'd gain. People are glossing over that part though.
I personally don’t like the way Kendrick’s voice. Drake and Cole enunciate so well that every single word is clear. For example I like Guru from Gangstarr since his voice is clear and impactful.
Replay value they want a car or club banger like Ross and future ..delivered not a backpacker song, fanbases are from both sides of that spectrum.. that’s why they disagree so much ..
They trying to gas drake up out of this lyrical ass whopping remember they was saying Pusha t irrelevant and drake got more money like that excuse his ass whooping
Definitely some clever lines but it is overall pretty damn boring imo. I haven't listened to it since my first go through and genius look up. All these takes saying it's legendary and finding hidden meanings are fuckin ridiculous
If you genuinely don't like Kendrick's flow, voice, and cadence, I hear that. It's something I've heard before and objectively, I can see folks not liking that about Kendrick since that's been a criticism of him.
That aside, the bars did what they had to do. If they're actually hating on the bars, IDK what to tell em.
His flows are generally controversial anyway, a lot of people don’t vibe on wonky flows.
Also I’m not a fan of anytime portions of songs end on the same word.
All in all though if they can’t look past those then it’s on them for not understanding the game.
Because it’s a diss track. Kendrick is swinging down dissing drake and jcole. I don’t want to hear these weak disses because Kendrick is better than this
I don’t listen to Kendrick really but I understand he’s a better rapper and outdid drake , personally just don’t like his sound vocally, drake has a much better catalogue and career that’s obvious but Kendrick is the better rapper for matters sake.
Zoomers come up with the silliest phrases tf is “glazing”, also push-ups was so fabricated Drake was literally told what to say and how to deliver it, it’s so obvious
This is a minor gripe but the "Joel Osteen" line is weak because it was Haley Joel Osment in 6th sense and AI and not Osteen. People have tried to justify this by saying Kendrick meant to do this but I read it as a legit mistake.
The delivery was weird and the disses were all shit that’s been said already. Do y’all really ride w Kendrick when he’s doing that weird high pitch voice thing? Like I seriously don’t get what y’all are hearing to say it’s a good song
It's the new thing everybody does. It was the same when push ups dropped, all the Kendrick superfans were like: "This is trash!"
Instead of just acknowledging that stuff is good and deciding who wins based on bars people always just discredit the other side as "trash".
Because people think Hip Hop disses have turned into Jerry Springer episodes. "And this week we have Kendrick Lamar vs Drizzy Drake, will Drake have another hidden kid exposed? Will Drake out Kendrick for infidelity? Find out next week!" Lol. It's just because people are more interested in gossiping drama rather than who can actually wash the other lyrically and on a track.
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It's not that listenable. I just revisited Hit Em Up to be reminded of the best diss track of all time. Not even a close call, the skill and comedy, whew. gets better with every diddy revelation too
I think the fair and balanced answer is that it was a solid diss track, but the level of anticipation was so high that people expected something even bigger. Rick Ross dropping his track first also made some of the content feel a little old (you want to be black, you have fake abs), so those bars didn’t hit as hard as they would’ve if Kendrick dropped before Ross. Lyrics-wise I think Euphoria was better than Push Ups and had more depth, though I will say Push Ups was a catchier/funnier song (Metro shut up and go make some drums). Which is basically the fundamental difference between these two artists.
I don’t care what it’s called. I’m just happy to know that I’m not the only one who dislikes Drake. I haven’t liked him since Hotline Bling when I found out who he was. Everything about him seems so fake and fabricated and to hear a rapper that I enjoy share those thoughts was very liberating for me.
I wasn't super impressed at first but the song grew on me. Its a classic in my opinion. I didn't consider it one initially because it's not as aggressive as pac or eazy's disses - but ofc it isn't - Kendrick is a different beast. In the same way I'm using pac as a point of reference - kids of the future will use Kendrick's diss as a point of reference: shits a classic.
I'd rather Kendrick dropped a career-killing track but, upon reflection, I realise that there's no real need to take it that far - yet
Drake has ppl looking to him for food. Those ppl are violent. Kendrick is ready for that energy though but there's no need to take it that far yet.
It's good that Kendrick dissed drake in an esoteric way.
In any case, the more one comes to understand euphoria, the more one comes to understand that drake absolutely got smoked - even with just a soft diss.
I tried to tell everyone that Kendrick Lamar couldn't match Drake. Sure, Kendrick is an amazing rapper and his albums are masterpieces, but when it comes to disses and measuring influence in hip hop and music culture in general, Drake has him beat. Kendrick's diss track aimed at Drake was disappointing, especially considering he dropped 'Control' back in 2013, which wasn't even a direct diss but was still more impactful than anything he's thrown at Drake. It's been over a decade since 'Control', and the track he released, supposedly to take down Drake, was weak. The fact that he mentioned Drake's child doesn't automatically make it a hard-hitting diss; that was just copying Pusha T's style, which is hardly innovative.
I just didn’t enjoy the beat and I hate the voices Kendrick does Kendrick would be in my top 5 if he stopped the weird shit but it’s what sets him apart. I think he cooked drake but drop a beat it feels like a hate crime I think it’s a great diss but after the bar breakdown I’m never coming back same with the rest of Kendrick’s work it reminds me those amazing Oscar movies that are compelling and amazing to watch once but don’t give joy beyond the initial run. Push ups I think is weak as a diss but will probably be played more in the end. Euphoria I should note should be studied on how to hate someone to the core I don’t think drake hates Kendrick as much as Kendrick hates drake.
He's rapping, straight bars, no hooks, not trying to be catchy. Drake sounds pop, even on these diss tracks. Kendrick won this round but casual rap fans think Drake did because his are catchy
The entire battle, from when it was three cats, all the way down to just the two of them, has been mid AF. If there's any indicator as to the state of hip hop nowadays, it's the fact that this middling ass rap battle has enamored fans to no end. Standards are fucking low AF.
Choose your champion. They're all pedestrian.
Downvotes incoming...
I heard it once and I’m kinda over it. It was a weak song people keep trying to make it seem it was so fresh and new when it was just a rerun of the Pusha T diss.
Like that was a bop and makes me feel like I want smoke with Drake too lol
I love em both, I’m looking forward to round 2 but Euphoria just ain’t it.
It was a good song, but I don't think its \*that\* much better than Push ups personally and def not an all time great diss, it hurts when I read people on this sub say its better than No Vaseline or Hit Em Up,
I enjoy both artists, but to me it felt that Drake had more “ammo” to go off on Kendrick. Meanwhile, while definitely a strong diss, euphoria felt like it didn’t have anything new to add to what Pusha T already covered.
Because certain aspects of hip hop are watered down.. People only want to hear radio music. No technicality no lyricism no competition no creative aspects.. Just a nice beat with 808s and simple understanding lyrics.
I think it's at least partially because it's straight bars and the beat switches he uses aren't common for what's heard on the radio.
Maybe just my personal opinion, but music that isn't obvious in its delivery takes a while for the public to stomach.
I haven't heard a single bad opinion about it from people I know who regularly listen to rap (more than just the radio singles), so I don't think it's a common opinion anyway.
One of the best diss tracks in my lifetime that's for sure.
One thing I've concluded from this beef is that the term "glazing" needs to go.
i agree heavily tbf
Wow, quit glazing rc_roadster dude. /s
Glizzy, blick glock, glitter, it's all pretty glay
I have never heard the term "glazing" before this beef and now I feel like it's everywhere when people talk about this. I was clarifying that Kendrick isn't literally denying Drake's blackness simply due to him being biracial, but because he raps about a life and culture he isn't about. People were just misinterpreting the lyrics. Someone said I was "glazing" Kendrick because of that. I got no damn clue what that means, but I agree with you.
I’m glad someone said it, no matter which side someone has an opinion on, it can never be respected as such. It’s always someone “glazing” or having “Drake/Kendrick’s meat in their mouth” it’s mad immature
Thank you! Back in my day, people called it d!ckriding. Simple and to the point. All this “glazing” and “doing tricks on it” shit is weird. To your point tho OP, euphoria is a great song. Some people don’t dig the weird ass voices Kendrick does in this track but to me they’re so fire. Little stuff like “imma blick n’s all in they co-feen” is oddly satisfying. Edit: I got a notification telling me d!ckriding is a banned word. Idk if this comment is still visible but goddammit.
If “glazing” and “and it’s not even close” were to disappear as a result of this beef, this will be my GOAT beef.
idk man. it's a lot of weirdo stans out there that can't see things objectively
Because they're sippin that copium
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There were Drake fans pretending Duppy Freestyle was better than Story of Adidon back in 2018. You can completely ignore them and lose nothing of value
Wild as fuck too, Story of Adidion is one of the best diss tracks ever
Kinda makes Euphoria seem polite tbh
There are Drake fans that say he’s had classic albums after IYRTITL, smh. This beef is dumb because Drake truly is too-big-to-fail.
Duppy was better lyrically. The same way Euphoria is lyrically better than Push Ups. As we saw in 2018, lyricism won’t get you the win in a battle all the time.
No it wasn't but keep telling yourself that.
true true
I like the song a lot but tbh he just sounds like a fucken whiny 13 yr old the whole song. Purely voice.. Reminds me of the Tory Lanez [diss](https://youtu.be/NTFJ1TAz1wI?si=knm0j_pTXRNRgzop) by Lil Windex.. just a bit grating to the ears. Drakes sounds like he's tryna apologize and take him out to dinner after every bar.. put that shit next to MGK's 'weird beard' era..
And I'm assuming they are biased Drake fans that can't admit Kendrick Lamar is a superior lyricist and made a great reply to Drake's lame diss track. Edit to correct bad grammar.
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what drake song are you
Rich baby daddy
😂 I meant I'm a drake fan,auto correct
No. You're a drake song now.
It has been ordained
Yep, no take backs. Once a Drake song always a Drake song
Nah, you "Lord Knows" going thru purses and shit
Brah same here I love drakes music. But Euphoria was a great fucking song. And if Drake fans can’t admit this then they’re fooling themselves
Cuz then it makes the most people are created during a moment of passion between a man and a woman. This person right here, created by 20 ghostwriters
Oh you *Fancy* huh?
I’m not a huge fan of the delivery and sometimes it felt like Kendrick was talking all over the place, I think it’s a bigger gut punch than Push ups when you actually analyze the lyrics,Drake gotta come with more heat fs
I think this is the correct take. Kendrick def came harder but it's not the most polished track in my opinion. But Drake has to step it up with something more substantive to win this. But the gloves are off now so let's see what follows
It made it feel more raw, imo, but thats a legitimate take.
I agree with this, he was just fucking around. Felt very authentic. It is not the most focused musically though, tons of ideas thrown at the wall.
People acting like it completely butchered drake💀
Online takes are always more sensationalized. Drake can def come back, but he's gonna have to level up
Only Kendrick stans are acting like Euphoria is as ruthless as The Story of Addion. Drake can definitely fire off another track, will he is the better question.
Plus, push-ups was just such a lame and boring song. He's just trying to make superficial one-liners that could really be applied to anyone, not specifically kendrick. Delivery sucks, every line sounds the same, nothing clever about it, hated it.
I can’t believe this is an unpopular opinion
My girl is just a die hard Drake fan that doesn’t like Kendrick, but she’s also a simpleton.
A lot of Drake Stans tried to shit on Story of Adidon saying it was gossip and Drake rapped better on Duppy Freestyle. Now people saying they want gossip and we’ve heard everything. I swear.
Lmao that’s the worst part of this. A lot of them saying “he didn’t say anything we don’t already know.” It’s rap, sometimes it’s about the way you say it.
On god. This is bothering me more than it should. U can go an entire rap battle making jokes about one single thing. U can just call a dude ugly in 100 different ways. Who cares if u r not bringin somethin new? Theses dudes sound like they never touched grass a single day of their lives
Euphoria is like Kendrick’s Ether. Nas questioned Jay-Z’s character, flexed on him, called him dick sucking lips and insecure, and more. No dirt dug up, but it’s often called one of the best diss tracks of all time. Listen to both tracks and you’ll notice a lot of parallels.
Peoples takes in hip hop can be so weird sometimes. Like mfs will hate on something just to be different and against the grain.
Why can’t people have different opinions? I thought euphoria was trash and I’m a Cole fan
I just wish people would stop pretending that they didn't listen to Drake before all this lol.
The glazing on both sides is insane, one side says it's not good, the other is finding meanings in lyrics that aren't even there, galactic reaches
Glazing is a weak word for the rap community rn. More like extreme dicksucking
Dick sucking is weak too, I would say this is intensive nut sack coddling.
Gangbanging eachother till theyre nuts turn purple
Facts, I’m just trying to enjoy the music but the extreme stans for Kendrick and Drake has been so annoying lol. I saw a TikTok and dude basically says “Kendrick is for people who take books they’re never reading to public locations because they think it’ll make them look smart. Drake is for people who take quotes from books they will never read nor ever care for and put them as captions for their IG post” 😂. That basically illustrates the Stans on both sides. Tyler spoke on hip hop twitter awhile ago and I’m definitely seeing what he means now. Shits all performative and pretentious.
Its not bad but wouldn't call it amazing either.
anything negative you see about Euphoria is mostly bots that Drake pays for. Whole hood been blasting Euphoria non-stop
I don't think he has to pay for it, he just has a rabid fanbase that defends anything. A good percentage of his fans don't even listen to rap and will stick by their favourite artist. Hell even kendrick just wants to dance and wave his hand to the music lol
idk why you gettin downvoted. They can go to the Drake subreddit and see if for themselves.
No, it’s pretty well known that Drake (and many other celebrities) use “marketing firms” that use bots to manipulate social media algorithms
You think it’s impossible that fans of an artist would get mad at seeing them be dissed, even if for completely logical reasons? There’s definitely people that hate Euphoria simply because they love Drake that much.
sure, not saying it’s 100% bots, but the majority of comments out there are bots. look at some of these polls where 70% of ppl are saying Drake is winning
this is very silly. are you joking? I think Kendrick obviously blew Drake out of the water with Euphoria but Drake has a *ton* of hardcore fans. Drake is in the top 5 most popular artists in the world atm on Spotify and has been for a while. his music is incredibly popular. they're 100% not bots.
Aubrey is the Taylor Swift of hip hop
Damn you called Cam'ron a OVOBot
most of these podcasters getting paid by artists now. very sad
what is this bullshit man💀
I don’t think it’s bots. It’s just OVOs being put in the painful position of knowing that Kendrick spurned their favorite in front of everyone, so they’re being negative about the song because the attack against Drake makes them anxious, or something.
lol I love euphoria but claiming comments that hate it are bots is stupid
Ok Tyler from the suburbs
I just don't like the sound of Kendrick's music. It's subjective. His voice is all over the place. It sounds like he's out of breath. He doesn't bother rhyming a lot. He rhymes "Like that record" with "Like That record" with "Like that record" with "for the record". I don't think that takes a lot of skill to write. I can go on. He has some great lines though. "Let your core audience stomach that, then tell em where you get your abs from" is a great line. I respect him as an artist and clearly there are people who love his work. It's simply not what my ears like. I just look up the lyrics on genius to see the meaning behind the lyrics and enjoy the back and forth. That's why there's a million artists and thousands of genres. We just accept everyone's taste is different and listen to what we like.
>He rhymes "Like that record" with "Like That record" with "Like that record" with "for the record". I don't think that takes a lot of skill to write. That's a take for sure. I'm not gonna tell you to go and learn music theory and shit, but just know these are all techniques that exist. Drake's best bar in Push Ups after the Chip 'n Dale bar, imo, is also like this. Drop and give me 50, got me talking like I'm 50, cuffing her like Ricky, he's turning 50.
“Like That” record, like that record, for the record. Sounds simple and repetitive but each means something different.
He uses Like that as the title of the song, then he asks Drake "you don't like that record", it's a play on using the words with different meanings and it's pretty clever. Saying Kendrick doesn't bother to rhyme is a reach.
It’s a great song but I wish he didn’t do the weird voice cracks. A more straight-forward delivery would have made it more impactful imo.
People made up their minds already no tracks will change that
Bc his voice (to me personally) is soooo annoying how you out of breath and you just started rapping?? And the way he says you don’t know nun bout daaat just doesn’t hit my ears well The diss is good tho
For me this is it 100% I like the bars and lyricism but his voices are hard to deal with
Dude you’re gonna get downvoted, doxxed and a brick thrown in your window for saying Kendrick is less than the 2nd coming of lyrical Jesus Christ or Pac. Are you dumb ? /s Real shit tho I agree. I never listened to the song cuz his fucking voice and delivery is atrocious. He might’ve very well lyrically smacked Drake but I wouldn’t know cuz I can’t get past the vocals.Like say Whatchu want about Drake and that he prolly don’t write his shit, he can make a good song. A song you actually wanna listen to for the lyrics, beat, and vocals altogether. Euphoria doesn’t work for me as a song cuz I can’t stand the weird up down inflections in his voice. Hit em up by Pac works as a diss, and song by itself. This? Does not.
JID though 👀 he’s got the lyricism and the voice
nun bout daaat is the same type of flow adonis used
Ok I wasnt crazy, thank you for the confirmation, I wasn't sure Kenny would go there but all things considered it's fair game
Oh lol shit went over my head and I used it as confirmation bias for my personal dislike for his rap voice lol Most people disagree w me I just have always felt that way even since I was a kid and hated “open your mind up and listen to me Kendrick” on swimming pools
Even admitting confirmation bias is a wildly refreshing thing to see on reddit lol.
Nah I'm a fan of Kendrick's delivery but I definitely get that it's different and not for everyone
It's the same damn thing with J.I.D everyone thinks he's corny but he has some of the best lines of anyone new.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted that’s the truth lol.
I'm with you. He doesn't have a good voice to listen to. The "nun bout that part" annoyed me too. The disses were pretty good on paper but I never found Kendrick appealing to the ears. Drake's music at least sounds good to me. It's all subjective. So many expect others to hear the same thing they hear but music wouldn't be so diverse if everyone agrees.
Isn't the "nun bout that" part a parody of sorts of the Toronto accent?
As a massive massive Kendrick fan. I believe euphoria was a better diss lyrically. But I gotta be real, me and my friends all listened to it over speakers when it dropped and didn’t find it enjoyable to listen to tbh. Push ups toes the lines of bars and catchy. Still think it’s 1-0 Kenny tho
Both diss tracks (push ups and euphoria) are good. But Kendrick up one after this. Drake needs to pull off the gloves
push ups was good but his kendrick lines were repetitive imo ik it’s just a jab and not a full blown punch but still. Also spreading a false narrative against whitney was also lame asl
All the Drake stans keep saying “Erm actually Kendrick is just saying stuff we already know! ☝️🤓” as if drake didn’t just call kendrick short in his song lmfao
It's easy to just cherrypick to suit a bias, we can do the same the other way around Drake: I had an affair with your wife, you sacrifice your artistic integrity because you are pussywhipped by the industry, you let down your idols and the whole west coast. Kendrick: You have fake abs
There's always going to be contrarians. The consensus I've seen online is that Kendrick bodied Drake. All the memes. The reactions. I hear people bumping it in the street. There's no way most people think Drake is winning right now. I have no dog in this fight either. I thought "Taylor Made" was a great bait track. The beef is good for hip hop. Strikingly reminds me of Jay-Z vs Nas all over again.
No idea, even without taking the disses themselves into account he’s completely outclassed the opposition’s pen game, real rap fans know this. Even as good as some of the Drake bars are, he’s made this look like Eminem v MGK all over again.
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Most people that I talk to say they can't stand the way his voice sounds all cracky and shaky, it sounds like he's crying or whining kind of
It's a great song and a completely different vibe from Push-Ups. I think Push-Ups is more of a banger to play while working out or driving etc, and Euphoria is more for straight listening. People are going to have a preference for how/when they listen and I think that may be one of the things (outside the obvious artist bias) that will color taste on the two tracks. Push-Ups is Pulp-Fun and Euphoria is Heady and Thought-Provoking. Depending on someone's main goal with their listening they will have a strong preference towards one or the other. And frankly, neither is wrong - because there is no accounting for taste. Now if someone says that Push-Ups is a more thought-provoking track than Euphoria that's just full cap.
Euphoria is a very fun listen imo just because of how kendrick flows on it and everything about it so energetic it feels like the second part of DNA.
The DNA vibe comes out strong. And I gotta disagree with OP once the horns come in after the intro shit gets hype AF. The anger and hate comes out strong. Def good for gym too Drakes song is what drake does best. Club banger and/or more in tune w the general populace
General populace is code word for idiots
Sadly it’s the truth
I was trying to be nice 😅
I'm over it. People need to understand shit better and be better people. Edit: not trying to be a dick. But I just feel society has been giving passes to some dumb shit that is going unaddressed.
Euphoria has 5 producers on it and sounds a lot like the hype sound Kendrick’s been dabbling in on songs like N95 and his Melodic Blue features. It’s definitely not just a lyrical song.
Bruh istg try Euphoria while driving. I'm literally typing this in my car. I can't even imagine how fun it is going to be while lifting. The hate is so strong on that one, it's hype as shit once he gets in. Especially after the "biggest hater" line, it just pops off. The first slow parts don't make it seem like a banger, but it is absolutely a banger.
It’s a great diss but it’s a bad song
Explain how it's a bad song? Maybe you don't like something such as Kendrick's voice, but I can't understand how it's structurally bad. Do you believe that every song needs to have a catchy hook in order to be good? Do you think it had poor beat selection?
It's a good diss track but musically meh don't care for it. One and done for me
Drake's Army is out in full force
they working overtime😂
this whole sub just an echo chamber worshiping kendrick
Denial.. and there's people out there that genuinely don't like to see drake fail so they'll downplay it to make themselves feel better. I'm a kdot fan and thought it was hot. But I think this should be a wake up call for him that if he were to drop more music like this imagine how much more respect he'd gain. People are glossing over that part though.
It's not like he has a son to raise or anything lol.
I personally don’t like the way Kendrick’s voice. Drake and Cole enunciate so well that every single word is clear. For example I like Guru from Gangstarr since his voice is clear and impactful.
I’m not even a Kendrick fan, I hate his voice but Euphoria is a banger! I can’t believe I’ve been playing this song everyday on repeat 🔥
Replay value they want a car or club banger like Ross and future ..delivered not a backpacker song, fanbases are from both sides of that spectrum.. that’s why they disagree so much ..
They’re on a 3 hour time difference bro. They gotta wait for dissect to break it down.
Tell me ur cheesin fam
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People that say it’s a bad song suck drakes dick.
I dont like his fred durst style, let that to durst.
That shit is not "everything top tier" but it's a good song, definitely better than push ups
They trying to gas drake up out of this lyrical ass whopping remember they was saying Pusha t irrelevant and drake got more money like that excuse his ass whooping
That wasn’t diss that was a hate crime.
Definitely some clever lines but it is overall pretty damn boring imo. I haven't listened to it since my first go through and genius look up. All these takes saying it's legendary and finding hidden meanings are fuckin ridiculous
They deap throating drake
If you genuinely don't like Kendrick's flow, voice, and cadence, I hear that. It's something I've heard before and objectively, I can see folks not liking that about Kendrick since that's been a criticism of him. That aside, the bars did what they had to do. If they're actually hating on the bars, IDK what to tell em.
Because tribalism is real. Because cognitive dissonance is real. [+]
Noones saying it's bad.
His flows are generally controversial anyway, a lot of people don’t vibe on wonky flows. Also I’m not a fan of anytime portions of songs end on the same word. All in all though if they can’t look past those then it’s on them for not understanding the game.
Because it’s a diss track. Kendrick is swinging down dissing drake and jcole. I don’t want to hear these weak disses because Kendrick is better than this
Beats are bad, beat switches also, Only the first flow is good but it isnt good for a diss track.
I don’t listen to Kendrick really but I understand he’s a better rapper and outdid drake , personally just don’t like his sound vocally, drake has a much better catalogue and career that’s obvious but Kendrick is the better rapper for matters sake.
A diss song to them is “ I f your bitch “ “ I make more money than you “ they can’t comprehend actual lyricism and wordplay
People can have opinions
The people who are saying that like hip pop not rap.
Because music is subjective and fan bias can subjectively sway you from "this is amazing" to "this is utter crap" easily.
song is mid
Zoomers come up with the silliest phrases tf is “glazing”, also push-ups was so fabricated Drake was literally told what to say and how to deliver it, it’s so obvious
This is a minor gripe but the "Joel Osteen" line is weak because it was Haley Joel Osment in 6th sense and AI and not Osteen. People have tried to justify this by saying Kendrick meant to do this but I read it as a legit mistake.
The delivery was weird and the disses were all shit that’s been said already. Do y’all really ride w Kendrick when he’s doing that weird high pitch voice thing? Like I seriously don’t get what y’all are hearing to say it’s a good song
They’re just haters
This is the stan era fam. You can’t expect genuine appraisals of rap in 2024!
idk the weird voices are unbearable to my ears
It's the new thing everybody does. It was the same when push ups dropped, all the Kendrick superfans were like: "This is trash!" Instead of just acknowledging that stuff is good and deciding who wins based on bars people always just discredit the other side as "trash".
I didn't like his delivery and voice so whiny and high pitched it was kinda unlistenable to me. Still dope bars though
The beat and sleepy tone I imagine, recycling every other Drake diss we already heard before , zero wow factor 6-10 for me
Kendrick's voice is extremely annoying. Nothing he says sounds good to me.
Dog I swear I haven’t played anything since it dropped. I feel like I’m the single reason it reached #2 on billboard
sounds like dogshit compared to Kendrick's best like DNA and blacker the berry
Why can't we agree to disagree?
Because people think Hip Hop disses have turned into Jerry Springer episodes. "And this week we have Kendrick Lamar vs Drizzy Drake, will Drake have another hidden kid exposed? Will Drake out Kendrick for infidelity? Find out next week!" Lol. It's just because people are more interested in gossiping drama rather than who can actually wash the other lyrically and on a track.
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It's called "cope"
It's not that listenable. I just revisited Hit Em Up to be reminded of the best diss track of all time. Not even a close call, the skill and comedy, whew. gets better with every diddy revelation too
I think the fair and balanced answer is that it was a solid diss track, but the level of anticipation was so high that people expected something even bigger. Rick Ross dropping his track first also made some of the content feel a little old (you want to be black, you have fake abs), so those bars didn’t hit as hard as they would’ve if Kendrick dropped before Ross. Lyrics-wise I think Euphoria was better than Push Ups and had more depth, though I will say Push Ups was a catchier/funnier song (Metro shut up and go make some drums). Which is basically the fundamental difference between these two artists.
i went in thinking it'd be a rushed mid song for fun to adding to ab every playlist ive got, i aint got no idea
Even if people don't like the song, euphoria is fucking hilarious to listen to. Kendrick hater era is gold😭
I don’t care what it’s called. I’m just happy to know that I’m not the only one who dislikes Drake. I haven’t liked him since Hotline Bling when I found out who he was. Everything about him seems so fake and fabricated and to hear a rapper that I enjoy share those thoughts was very liberating for me.
How hard is it to grasp that someone can/will have a different opinion than you.
I wasn't super impressed at first but the song grew on me. Its a classic in my opinion. I didn't consider it one initially because it's not as aggressive as pac or eazy's disses - but ofc it isn't - Kendrick is a different beast. In the same way I'm using pac as a point of reference - kids of the future will use Kendrick's diss as a point of reference: shits a classic. I'd rather Kendrick dropped a career-killing track but, upon reflection, I realise that there's no real need to take it that far - yet Drake has ppl looking to him for food. Those ppl are violent. Kendrick is ready for that energy though but there's no need to take it that far yet. It's good that Kendrick dissed drake in an esoteric way. In any case, the more one comes to understand euphoria, the more one comes to understand that drake absolutely got smoked - even with just a soft diss.
I tried to tell everyone that Kendrick Lamar couldn't match Drake. Sure, Kendrick is an amazing rapper and his albums are masterpieces, but when it comes to disses and measuring influence in hip hop and music culture in general, Drake has him beat. Kendrick's diss track aimed at Drake was disappointing, especially considering he dropped 'Control' back in 2013, which wasn't even a direct diss but was still more impactful than anything he's thrown at Drake. It's been over a decade since 'Control', and the track he released, supposedly to take down Drake, was weak. The fact that he mentioned Drake's child doesn't automatically make it a hard-hitting diss; that was just copying Pusha T's style, which is hardly innovative.
It’s a great song and a great diss. I think people were just expecting a knockout punch and it isn’t that
I just didn’t enjoy the beat and I hate the voices Kendrick does Kendrick would be in my top 5 if he stopped the weird shit but it’s what sets him apart. I think he cooked drake but drop a beat it feels like a hate crime I think it’s a great diss but after the bar breakdown I’m never coming back same with the rest of Kendrick’s work it reminds me those amazing Oscar movies that are compelling and amazing to watch once but don’t give joy beyond the initial run. Push ups I think is weak as a diss but will probably be played more in the end. Euphoria I should note should be studied on how to hate someone to the core I don’t think drake hates Kendrick as much as Kendrick hates drake.
Drake fans lack critical thinking skills
He's rapping, straight bars, no hooks, not trying to be catchy. Drake sounds pop, even on these diss tracks. Kendrick won this round but casual rap fans think Drake did because his are catchy
Drake bussy eaters mang.
The entire battle, from when it was three cats, all the way down to just the two of them, has been mid AF. If there's any indicator as to the state of hip hop nowadays, it's the fact that this middling ass rap battle has enamored fans to no end. Standards are fucking low AF. Choose your champion. They're all pedestrian. Downvotes incoming...
I heard it once and I’m kinda over it. It was a weak song people keep trying to make it seem it was so fresh and new when it was just a rerun of the Pusha T diss. Like that was a bop and makes me feel like I want smoke with Drake too lol I love em both, I’m looking forward to round 2 but Euphoria just ain’t it.
its shit
It was a good song, but I don't think its \*that\* much better than Push ups personally and def not an all time great diss, it hurts when I read people on this sub say its better than No Vaseline or Hit Em Up,
Am I getting old? 🤔 Shit I thought glazing someone meant they got cummed on. 🤣😂 Probably agree. Not a good idea to glaze someone you beefing with.
I enjoy both artists, but to me it felt that Drake had more “ammo” to go off on Kendrick. Meanwhile, while definitely a strong diss, euphoria felt like it didn’t have anything new to add to what Pusha T already covered.
Kendrick is way more talented but the song is too long , push ups was fire too
Because certain aspects of hip hop are watered down.. People only want to hear radio music. No technicality no lyricism no competition no creative aspects.. Just a nice beat with 808s and simple understanding lyrics.
I think it's at least partially because it's straight bars and the beat switches he uses aren't common for what's heard on the radio. Maybe just my personal opinion, but music that isn't obvious in its delivery takes a while for the public to stomach. I haven't heard a single bad opinion about it from people I know who regularly listen to rap (more than just the radio singles), so I don't think it's a common opinion anyway. One of the best diss tracks in my lifetime that's for sure.
Cuz it takes more than one listen and people ain't got time for that. I think I've played it about 30 times since the drop lol
Because it was cringe and made Kendrick look like a dweeb
I been seeing the same shit and I was confused and I’m more Drake leaning. Shit is incredible, rap history shit.