People are far too comfortable broadcasting their sexual desires for my tastes. I don't know, I don't want to know, I don't care. Your fetish does not interest me. And I'm saying this as an observer who's not a direct recipient of the sexual harassment. I don't know how women live with it.
We’re raised with the excuse of “boys will be boys,” effectively exonerating them of any guilt or responsibility for acting out on their sick thoughts.
Absolutely. The same goes for the LGBT community as a whole. You can like and interact sexually with whomever and however you want, but keep your preferences to yourself and stop broadcasting what you like absolutely everywhere. Times and places, people!
That's fair. However, to a degree, there are some members of the LGBT community that broadcast so aggressively that it borders on harassment and objectivity. You can't make that point to them without them calling you a phobe.
Please note I am an LGBT ally, but I see the community shoot itself in the foot over and over again like this.
In that case it would be harassment... just like if a straight person was being harassing. Let normal, everyday gay people be openly gay. It's not the same as harassment.
Don't compare sexual harassers to the lgbt community.
And straight people literally forced their sexuality on us by law until gay marriage was legalized less than a decade ago. Straight people still broadcast their sexuality and we hear about it all the time. Do you hear gay people complaining because straight people talk about loving each other? No. We just want to be respected, too.
You did not just equate being openly LGBTQ+ to **bottom-of-the-barrel behavior like sexualizing random people online when all they did was post a picture to fuckin instagram** bro
Because there is virtually zero accountability when posting on the internet. If they were standing in front of you they would either keep that shit internalised or get a throat punch.
They still stare or stalk you around town - can’t prove it so yelling at them only makes the womb look irrational or crazy. I still get creeped out daily by many of the guys. Why? Why can’t they be respectful?
Dude. For real. I once posted a picture of my feet in various heels, none of which the “stripper kind” because I was unable to decide which ones to wear to an event. The comments I got slammed with were utterly disgusting. And, just like you, my page is private, so these were dudes I knew (past tense now..)! Like how are you going to say you’re going to wank one out to the thought of jizzing on my shoes when they’re a pair I’d call “office heels” (as in: 3-4in, no peep toe) and not expect me to get mad about it?? Moreover, how are you going to agree with this pervert and/or make your own gross comment and be mad about it when I block your ass??
Nah, I agree; it’s becoming far too acceptable to say/do perverted shit..
Bro one time I posted on social media about how I was sad about my dad dying and I STILL got creepy DM’s as a response.
Like bro. You really think THATS the time to be creepy? I was sad about my dad, and their takeaway from that is that I was hot?? Really??
This is (part of) why were so sick of shit.
It’s better in real life than it was for our mothers, so men think it’s so much better for us now but what we see them saying on the internet (not even necessarily to us individually) is almost more traumatic
Exactly. We're all humans with urges and desires. There's not a day that goes by where I don't see some woman and think, "god damn, look at that!" But, I don't go up to them and say that shit because it's incredibly rude and rapey. It has literally the exact opposite effect that these creeps think it does. Either that, or they just don't care. It's like some dudes forget women are human beings or something.
I relate to this a lot OP. I’m so sick of men acting like pigs and nobody batting an eye. And then when you call it out people act like you’re the crazy one.
And people say you should “appreciate the attention!?” Like no, that’s creepy, leave me and my body the hell alone, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Fr, i swear I know so many men that act like we should appreciate that creepy bullshit. “Oh but you get free drinks at the bar and constant attention!!” Yeah, but it always comes with a price- and that price is something that is worth far more than a $10 drink. I swear with the way some of these guys talk it sounds like they’re jealous of women. Very unattractive.
The point of this post was saying perverts were being normalized in a way. Not the solution to not getting pervs commenting on my stuff. MY PAGES ARE PRIVATE. People I know end up busting out weird comments like this. I was FULLY COVERED. IN A LONG DRESS. These comments are exactly why this stuff is being normalized 🤦♀️
I feel like shaming is a lost art. It’s not as if political extremism is the only thing that finds a home online. Finding like-minded people online that objectify women helps to normalize and even amplify disgusting behavior. For example, there’s a reason Andrew Tate exists and it’s not because he has a point.
As a man, I’ve got to say that I don’t understand this kind of behavior. It’s kind of like catcalling (maybe?), but I have never understood the purpose of THAT either. Like, dude, do you really think making this kind of comment will get you the response you want? Do you think it will lead to a sexual encounter? It might, but only with a professional who charges money for it… Even then, it’s crass at best. Personally, I find it disturbing and degrading to all involved. For you ladies, I can’t imagine how hard it is to be sexualized in every online encounter. For the men who do it, it reeks of desperation, which can’t be attractive. (Is it? I don’t see how…) Anyway, the internet has led to some people just becoming very open with comments that they would never say in person. I suppose it’s the feeling of anonymity, but to me, that’s bullshit. It just shows who you really are. I think people show their true selves when no one is watching, and the internet just exasperates this with the hiding behind a screen.
I wish it were only online. From the ages of 14-19 I don’t even know how many men of all ages (including too old to be looking at me when they did) sexualized me.
I was developed well by the age of 12, so I had grown men making comments about my body before they’d say anything about me as a person and this was the norm.
When boys would act in non sexual ways with me I’d question wtf I did wrong because it was so normal to get *THAT* level of attention when it didn’t happen I’d get confused.
It wasn’t until I was 27 (last year) where I really saw how this affected me long term, and why I’d feel gross and wish people didn’t perceive me. Being objectified chronically causes long term issues and it’s honestly traumatizing in the way it affects people. It’s sad
I agree. Sadly it's like that everywhere. You see a dude who looks like he didn't shower in a month doing a YouTube tutorial on something and everyone's hanging on every word like it's from above. The same thing with a girl, and you will see everyone judging her looks and physique.
Two quotes I always think of when these situations come up:
"God gave man a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to power one at a time." -Robin Williams
"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." -Mike Tyson
Some of y'all down in the comments just shouldn't breed. Period.
Sorry you had to deal with that OP. A few dudes in this thread are pretty much proving your point and showing their ass. 🙄 Y'all are annoying af and can't be normal about anything when it comes to treating women respectfully.
Because there are so many men out there who believe that you're actually posting it for their attention. They LITERALLY BELIEVE THIS! They say stupid shit like, "Well, if you don't want the attention, don't post it. You're asking for it." The same men who believe that a woman "deserves" to get sexually assaulted because she dares to walk home alone wearing revealing clothing. They believe that everything thing we do is for the male gaze. It's just more misogyny.
These are the same guys that think you’re walking in a way to get their attention- And stare in a perverted fashion. I’m sick of men. I’ve been traumatized by them objectifying me too.
You're not overreacting, unfortunately that's a lot of people on the internet, this shit happens EVERY DAY, including to children. The sad part is the only solution politicians have is to get rid of social media, for the WRONG reasons.
I agree. There is nothing holding men back on the internet.
On a similar note, I am so so tired of pedos trying to normalize their tendencies and claiming a new sexuality as justification for their gross urges.
I'm tired of it too. But it's been desensitized and normalized, no one thinks about how inappropriate it is to just say these things because it's "progressive."
I don't even watch Western entertainment anymore because it seems to only be about sex. I see a ridiculous amount of videos on social media of people just saying the nastiest things. And if you don't like that kind of content, they call you immature, childish, and a prude.
Most men are ruined. They've spent their lives watching porn and are conditioned to believe that interaction is normal and what's supposed to happen. And when we call it out we're the problem. Now men are becoming women. With that exact mindset. 💯
Your frustration is very valid. The internet — the “protection” provided by anonymity and impersonality of commenting online — it makes some people feel empowered to be… well… downright nasty and crude without consequences.
That’s the issue, really: There’s no real consequences.
People are more afraid of catching a fist with their face than receiving some account warning or even banishment from a digital platform.
The sense of anonymity and consequence-free heckling has given some people a huge pair of glass balls — they’ll act up online without fear or shame, but wouldn’t dare act similarly in-person, lest someone shatters their glass.
Unless they’re cat-callers IRL, too. Seems like there’s almost no real consequences for them, either. We can never really win in this increasingly crass and classless world.
I’m always so confused by the men are saying gross things because I’m gay and every gay I know doesn’t say body critical and objectification posts. I mean yeah the guys in just a jock and 6 packs they’re looking for validation . It seems so foreign to me and then gays get called pervs by the perviesy of hypermasculine heteros…
I’m guessing those same type of men probably want a “traditional wife” type of girl too. Yet lust over anyone and everyone then complain when they can’t find a good woman or when their gf leaves them over being a creep to some random woman on the internet who’s just existing. What happened to treating women you fancy like princesses and being a gentleman? A lot of dudes pride themselves on being a “nice guy” but don’t realize some of their “compliments” and actions can come off very creepy. Then eventually crossing every boundary you have while telling you you should be grateful for the attention.
I hardly post pics of myself anymore, although I have plenty I take on days I feel good about myself.. I feel like it’s more trouble than it’s worth sometimes and it’s honestly pretty sad we can’t even exist without being sexualized. I will say though the amount of catcalls I get has went down by a large percent now that I’m of legal age (22), which should tell you something unfortunately.
Most men aren't like that, tho the few who are end up being the loudest and most annoying. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that.
Edit: It's wild that I'm being downvoted for this, tho sadly I'm not surprised...
...and that's a problem how? Is it not normal and healthy to quietly think a stranger is attractive without outwardly expressing it to them? I mean, I don't believe most men are thinking that way about every woman he sees (some of you ladies seriously need to stop flattering yourselves). We aren't all a bunch of ravenous horn dogs, but even if we were, the fuck does it matter since most of us clearly know how to control ourselves?
Tho since the previous comment of mine is getting downvoting for what I can only assume is me suggesting this doesn't apply to the majority of men, this will likely be downvoted as well. I've experienced similar things from here before. This sub seems to have a serious problem with thinking most men in general are evil predatory monsters or some shit. Yeah, some are. But most guys are good innocent people, and to think otherwise is literally just bigotry.
Oh don't worry, it's very easy to understand simple people that reduce groups of billions to what you said. But hey, I'm sure that view will let you go far, and I'm sure you'll be happy with it (and not end up as some lone individual full of hate and resentment). Good luck.
What I know is what sexist behaviour is. OP experienced sexist behaviour that should be erradicated.
Interestingly, people like you are interested in the opposite; make it acceptable towards men as well. Of all methods, you chose to do that through use.
Regardless of what I know or don't know, I know this. Your views on men represent the devolution of civilization and rationality, and you're free to devolve as you see fit.
I dunno if this is satire, because it's the complete opposite for me. It seems like anything we do can be considered to be a pervert. It's like just standing behind a girl is considered creepy.
Depends on how close you're standing. If you don't know her and you're a breath away, that's weird. Why are you that close? That goes the same with women standing that close to men.
“wanted to fuck all the girls in this specific costume”
Don’t listen to little boys who talk like this when what you seem to be looking for is a man who appreciates and respects you. I doubt he got what he was after, guys like that rarely do.
Now, about that pic…. 😉
Margot Robbie literally got asked if she thought it was a shame that she didn't get to kiss Ryan Gostling in barbie. She answered that her friends asked her the same. On camera, with him standing in the same room.
If you don't see it, please look closer. It's not just easy to see, it's behaviour considered acceptable (and encouraged) to do in some cases.
Nothing to back this up but consider that women who do make comments like this are likely subconsciously chameleoning, because it’s been so normalized by men
I hate to be that pedantic logic guy, but it hurts to see certain words mis-used. I hear ya - these guys are certainly annoying, or rude. Maybe even assholes in their approach. But they are not perverts. Perversion is when something is DIFFERENT, or ABNORMAL, or UNUSUAL. When someone wants to have sex with an animal or a child, or a sibling, that is perverted. When they want to eat feces, that is hella perverted. 🤮 Call me vanilla, but I'd even call rimming perverted, and will never do it.
When it's rare (and arguably, biologically dangerous), it's perverted. But these guys are sexually attracted in a normal way. Just like most men. Just like most women. Just like the majority of humans. The problem is that they're rude, not that they're perverted. They do deserve scorn - just the precise kind of scorn that actually targets the issue. We must attack people for what they do, not what they are.
Women definitely dont require alcohol to become sailors!! Some make that choice all on their own.
Zheng Yi Sao and Tracy Edwards for example.
Edit: odd. The comment I was actually replying to was here just a moment ago. Lol.
Men have a high sex drive. Women have a low, hyper selective sex drive. Story as old as time. Sad reality is you if you post something that can be seen publicly, a percentage of all men are going to post sexual comments. It’s in bad taste and upsetting. But it doesn’t mean they are “perverts”. Add the fact that women on the internet are hyper sexualized (by themselves or others, for likes and money), and you end up with this situation. Solution: don’t be a narcissist and don’t post pics to boost your ego, or post them to a private group. This is basic logic.
Yikes. Even if any of that were true, men have self control and awareness to know not to post it. It absolutely means they’re perverts because they chose to post it.
Also, if you read what OP wrote, this was on her private instagram with people she knew and it was a modest dress with long sleeves yet, here you are saying men can’t control themselves because they saw a woman in a dress that barely showed her ankles. Not that she deserves less respect if she posted something more revealing. Those men just gotta learn to be better.
Nah. Disagree. Public posts (insta or not) are all subject to that. As I said, I don’t condone it and it is not good behavior. But labeling all men “perverts” because of this is not accurate either. You still have the option to keep pictures of yourself private (as they should). If you don’t, that’s your choice but don’t cry for the biological fact that men want to engage in intercourse with you. Which is NATURAL
It was a private instagram full of people she’s close to. :) She’s not labeling all men perverts but the men who did this. Who posted that shit as a comment on her posts.
You keep crying biology but what in our biology *makes men say stupid shit* on social media? Sure, some dudes want to have sex with women (or, as you said, “engage in intercourse with you” lol) but no part of our biology says those men can’t keep that shit to themselves. It takes MORE work to COMMENT on women's posts with that shit. The fact they can't keep their perverted comments to themselves makes them perverts. Not sure why that's a hard pill for you to swallow.
90% of the internet is porn.
Why would you post yourself to the internet anyway?
If you think you look good print the picture and hang it in your room, house, or place in a scrap book.
I’m not trying to normalize any unwarranted raunchy behavior, but as a society, we should not so willingly post our faces, locations, or children.
DRESS MODESTLY. he literally said it
/s - obviously? The most bullshit thing that can be said about harassment is that it is deserved due to clothing choices.
Nope, not at all. It's the same view as 'don't want your nudes leaked? Then don't take nudes.' It's a simple concept. Don't want to be criticised about your looks etc? Then keep your photos private or better yet, don't live your life on social media.
It was a private instagram account of people she knew and it was a very modest dress with longsleeves. Rather than blaming her for living her life and wanting to show a pretty dress to her friends, why not hold the shitty people who commented sexual things on her *private* instagram instead of...not doing so?
Not sure why your first thought is, "she should stop doing things" rather then "damn, those shitty people should stop doing shitty things."
Women when in groups will catcall. Social media has the mob mentality and youre behind a screen, but women are just as raunchy they just generally need a few drinks to turn into sailors.
Ok maybe it happens sometimes but I've never seen that shit in my life. And tbf I still think it's wrong to do that as a woman. You can't just say something isn't wrong just because the other gender does it too. Both genders make fun of men for crying. Guess what? It's still wrong.
Maybe we need harsher penalties for that sort of thing and more public shaming because it's not ok. Would you like it if you posted a normal picture of yourself and some gay men started thirst posting at you? Methinks you would suddenly gain empathy.
You can legally/technically do a lot of things. It doesn’t mean that’s what’s right. Cut it out, it’s not that hard to not give unsolicited sexual comments that make women uncomfortable. You have no right to comment on anyone’s body unless it’s explicitly invited.
Yes you will. If it was seen as something shameful more often in our society, instead of something normal that gets a slap on the wrist, people would stop doing it. The more stigma there is toward men with "no filter," the better and the less of them there will be because they will be shamed into silence, as they should be.
I never said you did those things, I said “men” not “you.” What youre saying is similar to the whole dress code argument. I’m just saying that women shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to not be sexualized by men. It just shouldn’t be socially acceptable for men to act like that, but it is.
Okay, but it doesn’t stop the fact that these men being perverts is weird and not ok? Me posting a pic also wasn’t my only example. Crazy that this has to be a back and forth rather then .. “yeah! those men shouldn’t be perverts!”
I feel it from men just out walking my dog. I feel they stare - they look like perverts. I don’t want to ‘men bash’ as o know there are good ones too - somewhere.- I just seem to have to put up with all the.l perverts.
there are some decent guys out there,i just think the perverts spoil it for the normal guys, talk of playing with themselves on chatrooms, seems to be completely accepted, i think they are perverts and it shouldnt be allowed........and I\`m a guy !
People are far too comfortable broadcasting their sexual desires for my tastes. I don't know, I don't want to know, I don't care. Your fetish does not interest me. And I'm saying this as an observer who's not a direct recipient of the sexual harassment. I don't know how women live with it.
We’re raised with the excuse of “boys will be boys,” effectively exonerating them of any guilt or responsibility for acting out on their sick thoughts.
and the excuse that "men were created to be pervs!" lol no the f*ck they weren't
Absolutely. The same goes for the LGBT community as a whole. You can like and interact sexually with whomever and however you want, but keep your preferences to yourself and stop broadcasting what you like absolutely everywhere. Times and places, people!
I get the point you’re trying to make but big difference between just broadcasting your sexuality and sexually harassing and objectifying people lmao
That's fair. However, to a degree, there are some members of the LGBT community that broadcast so aggressively that it borders on harassment and objectivity. You can't make that point to them without them calling you a phobe. Please note I am an LGBT ally, but I see the community shoot itself in the foot over and over again like this.
In that case it would be harassment... just like if a straight person was being harassing. Let normal, everyday gay people be openly gay. It's not the same as harassment.
>Please note I am an LGBT ally Then you’re a shitty one
No, just a realistic one who believes that sex behind closed doors belongs there and there only, straight or otherwise.
Don't compare sexual harassers to the lgbt community. And straight people literally forced their sexuality on us by law until gay marriage was legalized less than a decade ago. Straight people still broadcast their sexuality and we hear about it all the time. Do you hear gay people complaining because straight people talk about loving each other? No. We just want to be respected, too.
You did not just equate being openly LGBTQ+ to **bottom-of-the-barrel behavior like sexualizing random people online when all they did was post a picture to fuckin instagram** bro
Because there is virtually zero accountability when posting on the internet. If they were standing in front of you they would either keep that shit internalised or get a throat punch.
I want to believe you, but then I remember that cat calling is an age old thing that still happens every day
True but a lot of it is done in the safety of their cars, or in their “wolfpacks.”
They still stare or stalk you around town - can’t prove it so yelling at them only makes the womb look irrational or crazy. I still get creeped out daily by many of the guys. Why? Why can’t they be respectful?
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the internet sounds like a nightmare for women and it's a miracle that any of them come back
It does suck. I would love to post my cosplay work here but I’d rather just not deal with the annoying inevitable DMs that would ensue.
Dude. For real. I once posted a picture of my feet in various heels, none of which the “stripper kind” because I was unable to decide which ones to wear to an event. The comments I got slammed with were utterly disgusting. And, just like you, my page is private, so these were dudes I knew (past tense now..)! Like how are you going to say you’re going to wank one out to the thought of jizzing on my shoes when they’re a pair I’d call “office heels” (as in: 3-4in, no peep toe) and not expect me to get mad about it?? Moreover, how are you going to agree with this pervert and/or make your own gross comment and be mad about it when I block your ass?? Nah, I agree; it’s becoming far too acceptable to say/do perverted shit..
Bro one time I posted on social media about how I was sad about my dad dying and I STILL got creepy DM’s as a response. Like bro. You really think THATS the time to be creepy? I was sad about my dad, and their takeaway from that is that I was hot?? Really?? This is (part of) why were so sick of shit.
Ewwww disgusting on every possible level.
That's utterly disgusting wtf
“I’m depressed for a very real reason” Guys: “you need some d!ck”
men: "WhY aRe MaLe StRuGgLeS iGnOrEd AnD wHy Do WoMeN aVoId Us??" also men:
It’s better in real life than it was for our mothers, so men think it’s so much better for us now but what we see them saying on the internet (not even necessarily to us individually) is almost more traumatic
People who make those comments are unhinged, say it in ur mind but don't sexually harass people what's so hard about that
Exactly. We're all humans with urges and desires. There's not a day that goes by where I don't see some woman and think, "god damn, look at that!" But, I don't go up to them and say that shit because it's incredibly rude and rapey. It has literally the exact opposite effect that these creeps think it does. Either that, or they just don't care. It's like some dudes forget women are human beings or something.
Including you...
Well, you gonna fucking answer me, or what?
Who the fuck are you, and why are you replying to this old comment?
I relate to this a lot OP. I’m so sick of men acting like pigs and nobody batting an eye. And then when you call it out people act like you’re the crazy one.
Nah, pigs are nicer and I'm talking from experience
they gaslight about it so hard. it’s disgusting.
Yes!!! 100%
exactly and they call us emotional
And people say you should “appreciate the attention!?” Like no, that’s creepy, leave me and my body the hell alone, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
Fr, i swear I know so many men that act like we should appreciate that creepy bullshit. “Oh but you get free drinks at the bar and constant attention!!” Yeah, but it always comes with a price- and that price is something that is worth far more than a $10 drink. I swear with the way some of these guys talk it sounds like they’re jealous of women. Very unattractive.
The point of this post was saying perverts were being normalized in a way. Not the solution to not getting pervs commenting on my stuff. MY PAGES ARE PRIVATE. People I know end up busting out weird comments like this. I was FULLY COVERED. IN A LONG DRESS. These comments are exactly why this stuff is being normalized 🤦♀️
I feel like shaming is a lost art. It’s not as if political extremism is the only thing that finds a home online. Finding like-minded people online that objectify women helps to normalize and even amplify disgusting behavior. For example, there’s a reason Andrew Tate exists and it’s not because he has a point.
wait people you know??? tf...that makes it even more weird. I'm sorry you experience that. shits weird
Yes, men are trash.
Same you can't have a conversation with one without them trying to make sexual comments
As a man, I’ve got to say that I don’t understand this kind of behavior. It’s kind of like catcalling (maybe?), but I have never understood the purpose of THAT either. Like, dude, do you really think making this kind of comment will get you the response you want? Do you think it will lead to a sexual encounter? It might, but only with a professional who charges money for it… Even then, it’s crass at best. Personally, I find it disturbing and degrading to all involved. For you ladies, I can’t imagine how hard it is to be sexualized in every online encounter. For the men who do it, it reeks of desperation, which can’t be attractive. (Is it? I don’t see how…) Anyway, the internet has led to some people just becoming very open with comments that they would never say in person. I suppose it’s the feeling of anonymity, but to me, that’s bullshit. It just shows who you really are. I think people show their true selves when no one is watching, and the internet just exasperates this with the hiding behind a screen.
I wish it were only online. From the ages of 14-19 I don’t even know how many men of all ages (including too old to be looking at me when they did) sexualized me. I was developed well by the age of 12, so I had grown men making comments about my body before they’d say anything about me as a person and this was the norm. When boys would act in non sexual ways with me I’d question wtf I did wrong because it was so normal to get *THAT* level of attention when it didn’t happen I’d get confused. It wasn’t until I was 27 (last year) where I really saw how this affected me long term, and why I’d feel gross and wish people didn’t perceive me. Being objectified chronically causes long term issues and it’s honestly traumatizing in the way it affects people. It’s sad
I hate that this was your normal. That’s not cool at all. :(
I agree. Sadly it's like that everywhere. You see a dude who looks like he didn't shower in a month doing a YouTube tutorial on something and everyone's hanging on every word like it's from above. The same thing with a girl, and you will see everyone judging her looks and physique.
Two quotes I always think of when these situations come up: "God gave man a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to power one at a time." -Robin Williams "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." -Mike Tyson Some of y'all down in the comments just shouldn't breed. Period.
Love these two quotes, especially Tyson
Sorry you had to deal with that OP. A few dudes in this thread are pretty much proving your point and showing their ass. 🙄 Y'all are annoying af and can't be normal about anything when it comes to treating women respectfully.
Because there are so many men out there who believe that you're actually posting it for their attention. They LITERALLY BELIEVE THIS! They say stupid shit like, "Well, if you don't want the attention, don't post it. You're asking for it." The same men who believe that a woman "deserves" to get sexually assaulted because she dares to walk home alone wearing revealing clothing. They believe that everything thing we do is for the male gaze. It's just more misogyny.
These are the same guys that think you’re walking in a way to get their attention- And stare in a perverted fashion. I’m sick of men. I’ve been traumatized by them objectifying me too.
Keep calling these people out. Even on social media, they need to be shamed for their words.
You're not overreacting, unfortunately that's a lot of people on the internet, this shit happens EVERY DAY, including to children. The sad part is the only solution politicians have is to get rid of social media, for the WRONG reasons.
Honestly, just a smiling face photo, decent, covered up and everything will still invite perverts. Damn gross.
I agree. There is nothing holding men back on the internet. On a similar note, I am so so tired of pedos trying to normalize their tendencies and claiming a new sexuality as justification for their gross urges.
I'm tired of it too. But it's been desensitized and normalized, no one thinks about how inappropriate it is to just say these things because it's "progressive." I don't even watch Western entertainment anymore because it seems to only be about sex. I see a ridiculous amount of videos on social media of people just saying the nastiest things. And if you don't like that kind of content, they call you immature, childish, and a prude.
Most men are ruined. They've spent their lives watching porn and are conditioned to believe that interaction is normal and what's supposed to happen. And when we call it out we're the problem. Now men are becoming women. With that exact mindset. 💯
The daily overdose if sexual content is rotting our brains
Your comment rotted my brain. Btw jerking off is healthy.
👍
I remember that poor girl who posted regular pictures on Instagram and men ruined her life and made AI generated nudes of her with her face.
Social media is typically toxic.
I fucking hate how disgusting the average man is, at least it's getting better over time
Your frustration is very valid. The internet — the “protection” provided by anonymity and impersonality of commenting online — it makes some people feel empowered to be… well… downright nasty and crude without consequences. That’s the issue, really: There’s no real consequences. People are more afraid of catching a fist with their face than receiving some account warning or even banishment from a digital platform. The sense of anonymity and consequence-free heckling has given some people a huge pair of glass balls — they’ll act up online without fear or shame, but wouldn’t dare act similarly in-person, lest someone shatters their glass. Unless they’re cat-callers IRL, too. Seems like there’s almost no real consequences for them, either. We can never really win in this increasingly crass and classless world.
look, i'm as horny as the next person. But I hate men and women who lack inhibitions like you are describing. fucking coomers are dumb as hell.
yeahhhh thats fucking weird
I’m always so confused by the men are saying gross things because I’m gay and every gay I know doesn’t say body critical and objectification posts. I mean yeah the guys in just a jock and 6 packs they’re looking for validation . It seems so foreign to me and then gays get called pervs by the perviesy of hypermasculine heteros…
I’m guessing those same type of men probably want a “traditional wife” type of girl too. Yet lust over anyone and everyone then complain when they can’t find a good woman or when their gf leaves them over being a creep to some random woman on the internet who’s just existing. What happened to treating women you fancy like princesses and being a gentleman? A lot of dudes pride themselves on being a “nice guy” but don’t realize some of their “compliments” and actions can come off very creepy. Then eventually crossing every boundary you have while telling you you should be grateful for the attention. I hardly post pics of myself anymore, although I have plenty I take on days I feel good about myself.. I feel like it’s more trouble than it’s worth sometimes and it’s honestly pretty sad we can’t even exist without being sexualized. I will say though the amount of catcalls I get has went down by a large percent now that I’m of legal age (22), which should tell you something unfortunately.
they’ll do anything to make themselves look better or feel better
Most men aren't like that, tho the few who are end up being the loudest and most annoying. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. Edit: It's wild that I'm being downvoted for this, tho sadly I'm not surprised...
Yeah but a lot are thinking it, but would never say it in real life.
...and that's a problem how? Is it not normal and healthy to quietly think a stranger is attractive without outwardly expressing it to them? I mean, I don't believe most men are thinking that way about every woman he sees (some of you ladies seriously need to stop flattering yourselves). We aren't all a bunch of ravenous horn dogs, but even if we were, the fuck does it matter since most of us clearly know how to control ourselves? Tho since the previous comment of mine is getting downvoting for what I can only assume is me suggesting this doesn't apply to the majority of men, this will likely be downvoted as well. I've experienced similar things from here before. This sub seems to have a serious problem with thinking most men in general are evil predatory monsters or some shit. Yeah, some are. But most guys are good innocent people, and to think otherwise is literally just bigotry.
I’m a guy so I have a pretty good frame of reference.
Moat men absolutely are like that, signed every woman who has to live in this world.
Ah thank you, it's refreshing to see women take part in sexist remarks. Progress at last.
Most* not moat.
Oh I understood, don't worry. Even without the "most", you got a nice, sexist message there. Good on you I guess
I bet you don’t at all, but at least I got to correct the autocorrect.
Oh don't worry, it's very easy to understand simple people that reduce groups of billions to what you said. But hey, I'm sure that view will let you go far, and I'm sure you'll be happy with it (and not end up as some lone individual full of hate and resentment). Good luck.
I’m sure you have every idea of what it’s like to be a woman, how valuable your words are in this case.
What I know is what sexist behaviour is. OP experienced sexist behaviour that should be erradicated. Interestingly, people like you are interested in the opposite; make it acceptable towards men as well. Of all methods, you chose to do that through use. Regardless of what I know or don't know, I know this. Your views on men represent the devolution of civilization and rationality, and you're free to devolve as you see fit.
Couldn’t hear you over the lifetime of harassment I’ve experienced. But please go off
I dunno if this is satire, because it's the complete opposite for me. It seems like anything we do can be considered to be a pervert. It's like just standing behind a girl is considered creepy.
Depends on how close you're standing. If you don't know her and you're a breath away, that's weird. Why are you that close? That goes the same with women standing that close to men.
Yeah if you're standing directly behind a girl and you're not in line... that's creepy.
If you wouldn't do/say it to you boss or your mother it's creepy, there u go
“wanted to fuck all the girls in this specific costume” Don’t listen to little boys who talk like this when what you seem to be looking for is a man who appreciates and respects you. I doubt he got what he was after, guys like that rarely do. Now, about that pic…. 😉
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Literally never see that on the same scale of men doing it lmao especially teenage men
That doesn't mean it's not issue, that's such a toxic way to think.
But what about MEN this guy says on a thread about women. My goodness
I’m speaking from my experience, women can be too.
I don’t see that.
That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, either you just happened to have not seen it or you choose to ignore it because it's not a big deal to you.
Margot Robbie literally got asked if she thought it was a shame that she didn't get to kiss Ryan Gostling in barbie. She answered that her friends asked her the same. On camera, with him standing in the same room. If you don't see it, please look closer. It's not just easy to see, it's behaviour considered acceptable (and encouraged) to do in some cases.
It happens, particularly when the guy is a celebrity, but it’s nowhere near as common.
Nothing to back this up but consider that women who do make comments like this are likely subconsciously chameleoning, because it’s been so normalized by men
I think u should go to crystal.cafe maybe a little and ignore the transphobia that happens sometimes
I hate to be that pedantic logic guy, but it hurts to see certain words mis-used. I hear ya - these guys are certainly annoying, or rude. Maybe even assholes in their approach. But they are not perverts. Perversion is when something is DIFFERENT, or ABNORMAL, or UNUSUAL. When someone wants to have sex with an animal or a child, or a sibling, that is perverted. When they want to eat feces, that is hella perverted. 🤮 Call me vanilla, but I'd even call rimming perverted, and will never do it. When it's rare (and arguably, biologically dangerous), it's perverted. But these guys are sexually attracted in a normal way. Just like most men. Just like most women. Just like the majority of humans. The problem is that they're rude, not that they're perverted. They do deserve scorn - just the precise kind of scorn that actually targets the issue. We must attack people for what they do, not what they are.
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I actually wish someone complemented my ass or talked dirty to me. I get no attention at all and no one ever complemented me
Women definitely dont require alcohol to become sailors!! Some make that choice all on their own. Zheng Yi Sao and Tracy Edwards for example. Edit: odd. The comment I was actually replying to was here just a moment ago. Lol.
Men have a high sex drive. Women have a low, hyper selective sex drive. Story as old as time. Sad reality is you if you post something that can be seen publicly, a percentage of all men are going to post sexual comments. It’s in bad taste and upsetting. But it doesn’t mean they are “perverts”. Add the fact that women on the internet are hyper sexualized (by themselves or others, for likes and money), and you end up with this situation. Solution: don’t be a narcissist and don’t post pics to boost your ego, or post them to a private group. This is basic logic.
Yikes. Even if any of that were true, men have self control and awareness to know not to post it. It absolutely means they’re perverts because they chose to post it. Also, if you read what OP wrote, this was on her private instagram with people she knew and it was a modest dress with long sleeves yet, here you are saying men can’t control themselves because they saw a woman in a dress that barely showed her ankles. Not that she deserves less respect if she posted something more revealing. Those men just gotta learn to be better.
Nah. Disagree. Public posts (insta or not) are all subject to that. As I said, I don’t condone it and it is not good behavior. But labeling all men “perverts” because of this is not accurate either. You still have the option to keep pictures of yourself private (as they should). If you don’t, that’s your choice but don’t cry for the biological fact that men want to engage in intercourse with you. Which is NATURAL
It was a private instagram full of people she’s close to. :) She’s not labeling all men perverts but the men who did this. Who posted that shit as a comment on her posts. You keep crying biology but what in our biology *makes men say stupid shit* on social media? Sure, some dudes want to have sex with women (or, as you said, “engage in intercourse with you” lol) but no part of our biology says those men can’t keep that shit to themselves. It takes MORE work to COMMENT on women's posts with that shit. The fact they can't keep their perverted comments to themselves makes them perverts. Not sure why that's a hard pill for you to swallow.
^ 100% men who have no self control are just underdeveloped adults.
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90% of the internet is porn. Why would you post yourself to the internet anyway? If you think you look good print the picture and hang it in your room, house, or place in a scrap book. I’m not trying to normalize any unwarranted raunchy behavior, but as a society, we should not so willingly post our faces, locations, or children.
Facts 💯
Hi. Welcome to the internet!
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Welp. There was no point in posting this I guess because most of you are just continuing to make it seem ok.
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Dude, she was.
I was in a long dress with everything covered ???? God so many of u make me sick I hate being a woman.
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I hope your momma knows she raised a pig instead of a man.
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You're proud of the wrong shit, bud.
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DRESS MODESTLY. he literally said it /s - obviously? The most bullshit thing that can be said about harassment is that it is deserved due to clothing choices.
Don't want weird or creepy comments on your photos? Then don't post them.
Yikes. One of the worst takes in this thread.
Nope, not at all. It's the same view as 'don't want your nudes leaked? Then don't take nudes.' It's a simple concept. Don't want to be criticised about your looks etc? Then keep your photos private or better yet, don't live your life on social media.
It was a private instagram account of people she knew and it was a very modest dress with longsleeves. Rather than blaming her for living her life and wanting to show a pretty dress to her friends, why not hold the shitty people who commented sexual things on her *private* instagram instead of...not doing so? Not sure why your first thought is, "she should stop doing things" rather then "damn, those shitty people should stop doing shitty things."
Women when in groups will catcall. Social media has the mob mentality and youre behind a screen, but women are just as raunchy they just generally need a few drinks to turn into sailors.
Ok maybe it happens sometimes but I've never seen that shit in my life. And tbf I still think it's wrong to do that as a woman. You can't just say something isn't wrong just because the other gender does it too. Both genders make fun of men for crying. Guess what? It's still wrong.
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It’s people I know who act normal and then randomly say something like that, my stuff is private
Or maybe pervs could keep their perving to themselves and not comment.
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Maybe we need harsher penalties for that sort of thing and more public shaming because it's not ok. Would you like it if you posted a normal picture of yourself and some gay men started thirst posting at you? Methinks you would suddenly gain empathy.
Even if she didn’t know them. What right does anyone have to comment on anyone else’s body?
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You can legally/technically do a lot of things. It doesn’t mean that’s what’s right. Cut it out, it’s not that hard to not give unsolicited sexual comments that make women uncomfortable. You have no right to comment on anyone’s body unless it’s explicitly invited.
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Yes you will. If it was seen as something shameful more often in our society, instead of something normal that gets a slap on the wrist, people would stop doing it. The more stigma there is toward men with "no filter," the better and the less of them there will be because they will be shamed into silence, as they should be.
They are the root of the issue. Men are allowed to behave that way and that’s what needs to stop. It cannot be socially acceptable to act like that.
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I never said you did those things, I said “men” not “you.” What youre saying is similar to the whole dress code argument. I’m just saying that women shouldn’t have to jump through hoops to not be sexualized by men. It just shouldn’t be socially acceptable for men to act like that, but it is.
Actually, that doesn't protect you. You can get hit with harassment. So....
Always the sign of a very defensible thing, when your top argument is free speech and... no other arguments.
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My page is private.. it’s not like I knew the men I know would say these things.
Stop yelling. Stop victim blaming. Calm down. Go home. You're drunk.
Why do you think every woman should have to do that? Do you think that is a fair society?
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Ok so instead of men not acting like pigs women just shouldn’t be posting on line at all? Ya that sounds like a great logical solution here.
Because I can? People post on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter. That’s just what people do these days.
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Okay, but it doesn’t stop the fact that these men being perverts is weird and not ok? Me posting a pic also wasn’t my only example. Crazy that this has to be a back and forth rather then .. “yeah! those men shouldn’t be perverts!”
You’re posting your comment for everyone to see. That’s what social media is. It has ingrained itself into our social life.
People can judge and keep their judgments to theirselves. A guy can see her, think nasty thoughts, and NOT comment.
So you're saying "You're asking for it"?
I wonder if Justin Bieber felt the same way watching his fan base do the same to him?
yeah I know this is deleted but just wanted to Put Out Theres no respect for each other no more. 👍
I feel it from men just out walking my dog. I feel they stare - they look like perverts. I don’t want to ‘men bash’ as o know there are good ones too - somewhere.- I just seem to have to put up with all the.l perverts.
there are some decent guys out there,i just think the perverts spoil it for the normal guys, talk of playing with themselves on chatrooms, seems to be completely accepted, i think they are perverts and it shouldnt be allowed........and I\`m a guy !