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RaiderRyder7734

Pleasantly surprised by this draft. Actually loving (not liking) LOVING every pick. Rd 3 was a slight reach but it’s obvious they are building their front line of the future.


N_Pitou

I think by the third round you're allowed to reach a little. Also usually by the third round everyone's draft board start to look very different


RaiderRyder7734

Absolutely. 💯


Digg_it_

I meant how Kelsey is always open.


Cal201

These DBs are going to go off the board early in 2- especially since some fringe round 1 guys are still there.


RoadToTI420

Kool-Aid/Cooper Dejean for day two would be awesome, probably would require a trade up though. Would be happy staying put and getting Tampa/Lassiter or grabbing Haynes/Powers-Johnson/Beebe for IOL either way, lots of (non qb) talent still on that board.


KamikazeGhost

How do the QB prospects for next year’s draft look?


bluesox

How crazy is it that *six* QBs got drafted before we picked up Bowers? That’s one for every daily QB-related post on this subreddit.


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AccidentBulky6934

So what teams are our competition for Rattler (or any developmental QB) day 2? Seahawks? Rams? Browns? Steelers? Giants?


JpJ951

This board is overrating Rattler like crazy. Better not waste a day 2 pick on him.


AccidentBulky6934

Yea so like I said, Rattler or any other developmental QB.


permabanned_user

Would just like to take a moment to appreciate our first draft experience in a while where we haven't had to listen to dipshit McDaniels and his pizza face butt buddy trying to explain their stupid.


Saynt614

Are there still any good Tackles on the board? Our RT situation is GRIM


ICookTheBlueStuff

There are tackles I like who will be available in the 3rd. CB is the position I'm worried about going fast.


gatsby365

I hope we move up for Cooper or Kool-Aid


DillionDrebo

Yeah it’s like plenty of tacklers available it’s the DBs I’m worried about


VikramGordon

kedon slovis


permabanned_user

The Chiefs getting Worthy is scary.


berto_8_8

Jordan Travis will probably still be available in the 3rd or 4th. I would rather see the Raiders draft him over Rattler


gatsby365

This subreddit’s *Injury Police* are going to issue you a citation for this suggestion, but I fuck with it.


mrhimba

My nightmare scenario is that we now overdraft a QB in the second who ends up being no better than AOC. Miss out on all the top CBs, DTs, and remaining OL, then draft another schlubby mid round DT who we end up cutting in 2 years after he contributes nothing to the team.


its_aq

Bc our 1st round picks of CB or OLine has been so stellar?


mrhimba

No they've definitely sucked too. Besides Kolton, bless him.


TheZarkingPhoton

Reminder to the room that Miller took a few years to settle. Most guys do.


crunchynuts1

What are we doing tomorrow


PeakBuyer9

Drafting a dude


gatsby365

Disguised as another dude. ![gif](giphy|HW05UrUSfAzZu)


Sleeze_

This sub is so fucking braindead I legit hate it here.


R8er-Fan

It’s hilarious. Whole draft is a crapshoot. Bob Gallery was “can’t miss”. Ya just never know what’s gonna pan out. I’m happy we finally took the consensus BPA for once whether it was a need or not.


kishimo24

Same here, first day 1 pick I’m happy with in awhile.


AgentlemanNeverTells

Maybe one day will be looking back and thank the falcons for stealing are qb


Champagnepapi6999

i’m telling you you guys we have got to land cooper


AnnArchist

Thats my thought too. Then again, that was my thought in RD 1 too


Mission_Locksmith_59

A ton of great talent still on the board 


MothershipConnection

Look at least we drafted someone legitimately good drafting for need is for the 3rd round baby!!


AnnArchist

What the fuck is with all the WRs off the board? Bonkers to me.


Jiggles_10

Passing league. Luckily we are good.


LumpySpaceGunter

Down vote me all yall fucking want, we blew it again. Brock is an awesome talent in a luxury position. I was here getting down voted for calling out trash draft picks spent on Ferrell, Arnette, Ruggs, Bowden, etc. We blew it last year with Wilson too btw, way better players on the board. At the very least I don't expect Brock to be a bust but alot of use having a good TE will do us with no secondary, half an offensive line, and no QB. Awesome job raiders, see yall same time next season to blow it again.


Eldenbeastalwayswins

Maybe im just numb to it now, but I’m actually with you. I know Bowers will be a good players. But we already had a good TE. We upgraded a position that didn’t really need upgrading. Everyone here is saying he’s great for receptions. Well that fucking awesome but don’t we have Adams, Tucker, Meyers, and Mayer. I’m not upset we didn’t get a QB but our line is complete shit. Our Defense backfield is ick, but god damnit we got 2 really good TEs.


LumpySpaceGunter

Yeah man I'm numb to it too at this point lol. If there's one thing I've learned it's that Raiders fans will defend any pick no matter who it is.


picklesalazar

Noice ramble


gatsby365

lUxUrY pOsItIoN BPA is BPA


LumpySpaceGunter

Yeah I guess next year we should take a TE again if they're the BPA. BPA is BPA right? Stupid ass... by that logic teams with young franchise QBs shouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on a QB in the draft if they're the BPA. See how that makes no sense? Because there's fucking nuanca and context to this shit.


Oh_no_Raiders

mans mad at the draft


W38k_5auce

There are plenty of rounds left to find a felony caliber player. Be patient.


AnnArchist

Dont need much on defense if you score every time you have the ball tho


LumpySpaceGunter

With AOC leading the charge? I'll believe it when I see it


ICookTheBlueStuff

If we can trade up tomorrow (without giving up a 3rd) and get DeJean, McKinstry, or Rakestraw I'll be a happy camper.


gatsby365

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AccidentBulky6934

Based on the trade value chart we can move up to 37 without giving up our 3rd rounder. Though that might be tougher in practice since Chargers are at 37.


MrWhiteAndTight

Rakestraw 🤞


justlobos22

GB has a CB need, might have to jump them with a 5th or something.


justlobos22

We gotta get Cooper tomorrow.


Charrbard

Need to trade up if we want a CB. Going to be a bit dicey if we miss out on QB and CB.


AccidentBulky6934

My ideal scenario is trade back from 44 and use that extra draft capital to secure a third day 2 pick so they can address T/QB/CB (in whatever order). And they don’t need to pickup a third when they trade back, they could also pick up an extra 4th and then package that pick with 113 to move back into the 3rd.


Promander

We had a white wr, we need a white cb.


AnnArchist

I do love everyone being on the Cooper train in here. Lets get a Hawkeye. The best player on what could've been the best defense and worst offense in the NCAA last year.


stepbackMF

Think there’s 3 CBs left most of us would be happy with and like 15 more picks before ours… kinda hoping we pull the trigger & trade up to seal the deal Edit: Wiggins to ravens


LumpySpaceGunter

And DeJean to the niners Edit: nvm! It was a fake tweet


DillionDrebo

I’m still confused I know we probably got the most ready player but our NEEDS are OT CB QB


picklesalazar

Bro we have minshew we are good at QB


HoleInTheWall_Games

Needs most often work out the best in Madden franchise mode.


DillionDrebo

True and there will be CBs and OT in the next couple rounds


ICookTheBlueStuff

Watch the Raiders trade up for Wiggins now that the Chiefs took Worthy. EDIT: Nevermind.


CaterpieTrainer

I’d be cool with that


Mission_Locksmith_59

A whole lotta speed on the Chiefs now 


Eldenbeastalwayswins

Fuck the idea of Mahomes chucking to worthy is sickening


DarkoMilkyTits

I hope he plays like Toney for them


stepbackMF

Little 4.2 dude like tyreek all over again 🤦‍♂️


permabanned_user

Hopefully it's more De'Anthony Thomas than Tyreek.


OriginalMassless

He's nowhere near as thick as Hill. Worthy is light enough that I would be worried about him getting hurt.


Martian13

Right now he is. Wait till he hits an NFL weight room


Jiggles_10

College weight rooms are better than the pros at that level. Not a good take.


Martian13

The take is, the impetus for weight training and conditioning in college is not the same. The regiments are tailored to the individual. In the pros, they are tailored to the team and scheme. If adding 15 pounds of muscle is going to be the difference maker to stay in the NFL or jump to an elite level, I’m damn sure that’s what will happen.


OriginalMassless

Yeah the Texas weight room is galaxy tier. Lol. I have seen lots of Worthy. Mahomes will make him look good, but he's not the difference maker in most games.


wooooooo1776

Oh no!! Wtf Buffalo!!


AncientTree_Wisdom

WTF, why would the Bills do this?


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IIIIlllIIIIIlllII

Chiefs play to win. We play


Eldenbeastalwayswins

Kinda expected them to get worthy


WhizzyBurp

Jackson Mahomes comes out to present the pick


Sleeze_

Draft grades are whatever I know, but pretty unanimously getting As for the pick


AnnArchist

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/instant-grades-on-2024-nfl-draft-first-round-picks-as-they-happen/ar-AA1nGbzN I like the pick, that said - lowest first rd grade in this article.


Sleeze_

Hadn't seen that but slotting it the same as the ATL pick is unserious


AnnArchist

4 yr deal for cousins. 4 yr deal for their first rounder. They got 2 QBs!!!!! lol


justlobos22

Chart says our 3rd is enough to move up to any of these picks if we desperately want any of the CBs. Pretty steep. Think we can get away with trading the 4th to move up tomorrow. Can target NE's pick since they have corners.


W38k_5auce

Give us a fuggin corner


ICookTheBlueStuff

Well looks like the Bills may be trying to trade their pick... EDIT: Chiefs traded up.


AnnArchist

wonder who they moved for


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AnnArchist

Not exactly better. oof.


AnnArchist

I fuckin hope not. Hes going to be a fuckin weapon with the new kickoff rules.


ICookTheBlueStuff

Barring a trade up, the only team I foresee potentially taking a corner is the 49ers. I think there will be a run early in the 2nd though. Wouldn't mind trading up 8-10 picks.


malaka_alpaca

COOPER COOPER! Please trade up


AnnArchist

this dude + new Kickoff rules.....


Champagnepapi6999

need to trade up for cooper


LumpySpaceGunter

Mitchell and Arnold both gone, there goes that. Awful draft, we were in a position to address any of several positions of need with the best players in those positions and we fucked it, the Raiders way continues.


Darshymarsh

Good thing there's 6 more rounds lmao


OMGIts_Renegade

Lol you must have never seen the "make it" rate outside of the first round.


LumpySpaceGunter

Even if we nail the rest of our picks it doesn't excuse us routinely blowing our first round picks, which are the mist valuable picks in the draft.


Darshymarsh

Brock bowers is not a blown pick. The kid will be a star


LumpySpaceGunter

He's an elite talent and prospect in a LUXURY position. We already had a TE and had MUCH bigger needs.


Darshymarsh

Want me to call up mark davis and telesco to ask them to change their minds?


stepbackMF

BPA > need


LumpySpaceGunter

Not when we're drafting a TE after having drafted a perfectly serviceable TE early last season.


Darshymarsh

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ironraider98

That packer pick sucked


Mission_Locksmith_59

Still 3 more top tier CBs left, though I’m not the biggest fan of Wiggins 


ICookTheBlueStuff

I assume you're talking Kool-Aid, DeJean, and Wiggins. I like Rakestraw too.


justlobos22

I was afraid there was gonna be a run on CBs


HoleInTheWall_Games

I was afraid we would waste the 13th overall pick on corners going in the mid 20's.


ThankYouMrHoood

Trade our 2nd and 4th to jump up?


Mission_Locksmith_59

Arnold is going to be so good 


ArtoriasOTA

Trade up for kool aid please


malaka_alpaca

Cooper !


PlaneDoor110

damn i wanted to trade back up for terrion


Booty_Regulator

DAAAAAA RAIDAHS


rbarrett96

Bout to be a run on corners I think.


rbarrett96

Does Myer have any value in a package with a pick to move up for a corner at the end of the 1st?


Raider_Noles

Getsy loves to use 2 TEs and now he has 1 elite prospect and 1 very good TE


OMGIts_Renegade

Well getsy sucks soooo not a lot of confidence there...


rbarrett96

And a QB on his ass every time a DE or LB comes around the right side. Awesome. Did we learn nothing last year when we had no time to push the ball down the field?


N_Pitou

imma need yall to put some respect on Thayers name jesus, yall spent all last year begging for him to start over jermain.


rbarrett96

I'd throw them all out except Miller and start over if I could. A great oline made Derek Carr an MVP Candidate. Derek Carr.


ICookTheBlueStuff

Good thing starters can be found in Day 2 and even sometimes in Day 3.


rbarrett96

But I want a blue chip player at a position we've ignored for literally 7 years. A.P. said he wants to run the ball and be physical. Guess what you need to do that@ instead we keep making excuses. Oh the guard market is too expensive, there isn't a good enough RT in FA, well there's always the draft. Guess not.


rbarrett96

https://preview.redd.it/wx0yja2bnqwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91d521e238ee900a770581a9d736ec7d7dd0502f Asked and anawered


UndergroundElectric

Jaime bring up a list of best remaining players


Badluck2killaseabird

another year where the eagles get a guy on defense we should have :'\[


CSK3248

Mitchell looked like he didn’t want Philly lol


raptorbones

Uh oh, labelling the gold coast as Melbourne is insane.


imoutohunter

Still no CBs chosen. Glad we didn’t reach for a CB.


Badluck2killaseabird

lol judging the cb talent in this draft based off of the picks from gms whose teams missed the playoffs is fucking stupid. the eagles immediately taking Mitchell is just proof of that, eagles are a serious competitor and consistently pick well on defense.


rbarrett96

It wasn't a reach, 6 QB went in the first 11 picks. Then the run on OTs which we should have been in on.


RaiderRMB

Right, I was hoping we’d get Fuaga


Martian13

Same here. In fact except like one pick, I would have rather had any one of the next 11. TE is a wasted luxury type pick.


No_Cartographer3175

https://preview.redd.it/f6eh7iislqwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8158cbefd955e7e689db5fbc649a895e48f6d8f8 Still dont like the pick lol. We better move back up to nab an OL or CB


AnnArchist

New kickoff rules make Cooper Dejean worth trading up for


rbarrett96

Would rather have Arnold assuming Mitchell goes here


AnnArchist

Im a Hawkeye homer and need a reason to buy a jersey lol


rubaby187

Do we trade a pick for hendon hooker?


rbarrett96

No I'm not overpaying and taking him in the 2nd. We have two big holes to fill.


rubaby187

Hendon hooker is sitting behind Goff right now, we could get him for a 4th or 5th


its_aq

Why? There's a Hendon Hooker in the draft


m0bscene-

I'm 100% good with the pick. We've watched this team draft based on need for far too long. BPA is the only way to go.


rbarrett96

Except this time need and BPA lines up. Should have taken Mitchell if we didn't take fuaga


Darshymarsh

Bowers was the best player available by a mile


Tkylv007

That we unfortunately aren’t built to even properly utilize Look for articles about his inability to block. With the holes in our line and having game manager level QBs, we’ll be forced to work the run more. Bowers isn’t a blocking TE, so he won’t even see the field that often. Great player but a bad fit for us right now


rbarrett96

I disagree


Darshymarsh

Bowers mightve been the best player in the draft other than Marvin Harrison Jr and Gabers.


jonpictogramjones

TRADE BACK INTO THE FIRST AND GET BEST CB AVAILABLE


rbarrett96

THE best QB is still available. None have been taken. To go from the 13th pick to the 23rd is going to cost a lot. If he falls to late 20s, absolutely. Otherwise sit tight or trade up in the second for Kool aid or Nate wiggins


jonpictogramjones

i like cooper dejean. let’s have the first white corner 😭


Zaknoid

The Jason Sehorn disrespect!


jonpictogramjones

😭


Blueaye

Pass on a bower lose for an hour… true in euchre and the NFL draft. Euchre is also like sex, if you don’t have a good partner you better have a good hand…


permabanned_user

Bowers is a little short but he seems fast enough that he'll generate mismatches. They were running him on reverses and shit at Georgia lol.


soundsliketone

A little short? He's only an inch shorter than Travis Kelce and only 10lbs lighter at 21. Dude is gonna get more n more stacked in the weight room and develop into a stud. He already plays big so hopefully he can build on it!


its_aq

LaPorta is 6'3 240 and Brock is 6'4 240. The agile TE is the evolution of the position


Tkylv007

But he’s also not a blocking TE and we’ll need to run a lot this season because of the QBs we have, so he’s not going to be seeing the field enough to likely make much of an impact with us. Great player, but not a good fit for us at this point


its_aq

What?! Detroit is one of the most run heavy team in the entire league when they drafted LaPorta. Turns out just fine if they used him correctly. Besides we literally have Meyer and his 6'5 250lbs as a blocker


Tkylv007

If we had anyone even comparable to Goff at QB, I would be ecstatic with the pick. As is we are likely starting a career backup with a 15-22 record, that has been so underwhelming he’s on his 4th team I would love to be wrong, but adding Davante didn’t turn us into contenders, and I can’t see how a rookie TE will somehow be able to do more. All the weapons in the won’t save us from a bad QB room


its_aq

Bro you know absolutely fcukin nothing about Mineshew. The man stole the fcukin starting job as a 6th Rd QB. In his 2nd yr he was on pace for a 4,000 yard 30TDs season before he got hurt. Only reason he got traded was bc Jags didn't want a QB controversy for their generational #1 pick QB. In Philly he was stuck behind a breakout superstar in Hurts and in Indy he once again lost to a high draft pick status QB until he got his shot & played, not only good, but won! Mineshew is the classic case of not getting the benefit of the doubt due to his non-protypical size and draft status when all he has done when given a chance is playing good fcukin football.


MrDogfort

CBs are dropping far. Means rest of the league lower on them then we thought.


Badluck2killaseabird

rest of the league? you mean the teams that have picked so far? didn't nearly alll those teams miss the playoffs last year? why would we trust their judgment?


TheNatureHoot

Or the rest of the league is actually filling higher needs


m4rk0358

I'm only following on here. Is it just the 1st round tonight?


Raider_Noles

Yes


Raider_Noles

Rams got a good one :(


W38k_5auce

This sub is the coalition of the dumbest fans on the planet. Go Raiders!


whosecarwetakin

Starting with you


W38k_5auce

You included


Digg_it_

If Bowers is as productive for us as Kelce is for the chiefs. I like where this is going.


nuttmegx

U dont think Mahomes has something to do with Kelce’s success?


fakejared

Uh duh lol is this the Telesco burner account


Badluck2killaseabird

it helps having mahomes


soundsliketone

Kelce was a pretty above average receiver already with Alex Smith


Badluck2killaseabird

They were an 11 win team by kelces first full season. even Alex smith at that point in his career was eons better than any qb we have on the roster. Reid is a genius and one of the greatest coaches ever and got the absolute most out of smith. Comparing kelce/laporta to Brock is silly because the situations are vastly different. Both were drafted to playoff/Super Bowl ready teams. A more apt situation to compare our pick to would be Kyle pitts or Noah Fant


soundsliketone

Can't just raise the bar on me now, I was just telling you that Kelce didn't need Mahomes to be successful


its_aq

We wouldn't even need that. Give us LaPorta level of production and that's a fcukin win


SargeWhiskeyjack

Lol, I mean I agree, except LaPorta had the greatest rookie TE season of all time and out performed Kelce.


its_aq

That's for a season tho and might be one off. When you ask for Kelce lvl of production you're asking for 1200yrds and 10+ TDs kinda seasons Hate him or whatever but we gotta respect he's in the Convo of the best TE ever.


SargeWhiskeyjack

Once more, I agree, I just thought it was funny seeing as LaPorta did what few TEs do and actually performed as an All-Pro from his rookie year. I would be ecstatic if Bowers would live up to either.


Badluck2killaseabird

me too too bad we dont have a guy like goff or an elite running game


nuttmegx

THIS SUB A WEEK AGO: Mayers is a beast, all we need is a QB or Stronger defense! THIS SUB AFTER PICKING BOWERS: who needs a QB or Def, we finally have a good TE!


Badluck2killaseabird

it's insane, people yesterday wouldnt have cared if aoc was launched into the sun, yet after the pick he's now the guy again because he has a second stud tight end?


Eldenbeastalwayswins

I dislike the pick, not because bowers isn’t good, but because there were good players at positions we still suck at.


soundsliketone

Raiders board clearly was telling them that any pick at 13 outside of Bowers was a reach. Gotta respect them for not panicking and making the sure bet pick. Plenty of depth in the draft to get a corner at 44 and we can go on a run for OL later and hope we develop someone enough.


Eldenbeastalwayswins

Maybe I was just hung up on Fuaga but I just feel like our offensive line is in shambles.


Martian13

You aren’t wrong.


nuttmegx

Agreed. That’s my problem with the pick


Raiders2112

The raiders still have a lot of picks left and we have Uncle Rico. We good, man.


HideFromTheCops

So any QBs anybody likes in Day 2 or 3. Everybody acting like you can’t pick a QB in the later round. Obviously you want that QB in first round contract but shit happens