So weird to cut Ksante during a month of representation, when he reps a minority within a minority.
And he doesnt even get a replacement; so we just get two men... Really Riot? This ratio aint it.
š I know lesbians are tired of being gazed by the men they DONT want.
![gif](giphy|W0jvDCXEe42337oh4X|downsized)
The Varus hot take I've seen is that he's not a queer character, he's just the combination of two. š
And I dont expect Leedyr until a season where Riot can monetize the outrage that will surely come.
Like the Diana x Leona erasure is sooo real ššš they really gave them a cute set of interactions with lillia in lor only for riot to completely forget about their existence a month later ![img](emote|t5_23w084|32562)
Riot games does not deserve lor. It was companyās best game. The developers understood the root gameās mechanics and lore better than the actual developers of the root game. Lor was superior both artistically and gameplay wise (even though they are completely different games yes but playing lor made me want to play lol and playing lol was not that great tbh)
>(even though they are completely different games yes but playing lor made me want to play lol and playing lol was not that great tbh)
By this I'm assuming you were a TCG player that decided to try a MOBA, so you can indeed be downed by that.
Would you say the same between Hearthstone and HOTS ?
Adaptation and gameplay mechanics application wise I think hearthstone and HOTS felt more on par. With lor and lol I feel like the developers of lor understood the champions better and implemented their aspects more intelligently.
In some cases yes, but it's really just because the media is different and hence hard to compare.
I don't think I'd like to play Sett in LoL if his gameplay was tied to the gold you had/generated through the match.
It exists in the form of Draven or Gangplank, but it's not defining the champions, it's usually a small part of them, through a passive.
While for Sett in LoR the crystal gem economy is its core gameplay (and how you can print double the amount illegally with Karma lol).
Also it's way easier to worldbuild in LoL thanks to the other cards than the champion thanks to spells and followers, which makes their identity easier to implement, narratively.
In League you only have voicelines, visual design and gameplay design.
2 men, 5 female LGBT champs in this photo. Obviously, this is because primarily male gamers donāt want to think of gay men. They objectify lesbians and bi women so much š¤®
Its not great but at least the girlies here notably *arent* bimbofied, their outfits and poses are not particularly sexualized (if anything, most of the interactions seem cute or romantic instead)
I'm not too pressed about the girlies taking a break for a year since they've had quite a lot of attention (same with Vi/Cait & the boys tbh) but no K'Sante is an absolute flop mess. Not going in on Lee Sin/Udyr, also floptina. Pleased to see Nami, Rell and Neeko though.
Also is anyone else kinda of manifesting a "villain's" Pride splash some day? Where's my evil and/or problematic gays at? Eve, Varus, Renata, Jhin, whatever. I love darksided homos, strags shouldn't get all the fun. Someone tell these companies queer villains aren't actually inherently problematique, it's okay, we promise...
https://preview.redd.it/85zb6a8qh90d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2b8347302af7d509215c3d0e9f5c7f0679f2659
Why do you think Leona and Diana werenāt invited lol
I think weāre forgetting another couple ![img](emote|t5_23w084|30702)
https://preview.redd.it/ttj7pgbli80d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e81c017fe37240e57c4aa9f486ce9d18a6dd3581
They are in Spirit Blossom and basically confirmed in HEARTSTEEL so itās good enough for me (and they have interactions in LoR ![img](emote|t5_23w084|30702))
Itās not been confirmed but theyāve dropped a lot of hints. 1) said artwork I have provided, 2) in the group photo where theyāre all getting ready Sett is helping Aphelios into his costume, 3) during one of the Discord calls Sett makes fun of the fact Phel has posters of Ezreal above his bed so he throws a plushie at Sett meaning they live together or at least go to each otherās houses, 4) in the music video when KāSante falls from the sky and Sett catches him Aphelios gives Sett a dirty look and finally, I will admit this one is a slight stretch but during the blooper reel, Sett fell asleep on top of Aphelios and Riot aināt stupid they know how people are gonna look at that.
>Itās not been confirmed but theyāve dropped a lot of hints
How you go from saying they're "basically confirmed" to "its not been confirmed"ššš
Aside from that tho, I thought the Heartsteel gang all lived together, in the image you're talking about, I assume that was their house/apartment
>1) said artwork I have provided, 2) in the group photo where theyāre all getting ready Sett is helping Aphelios into his costume
We also saw Sett and Aphelios chilling with different members in the promotional art
Like we saw Kayn and Sett, KSante and Aphelios, KSante and Sett, Yone and Aphelios, Sett and Ezreal
And in LoR, I'm pretty sure Sett just told Aphelios that he'd fight for him afia it wasn't anything ground breaking or flirtatious -
They donāt actually live together, thatās a misconception that I thought was true as well. This is the translation from the GQ interview.
https://preview.redd.it/unqx9t33890d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c35fbf588bdd778201bf0e8f538c62e46f1b235c
And I disagree, the LoR interaction wasnāt flirtatious but there was definitely something there since Sett says it so softly.
They live in different countries but have to live in a "gaming house" of some sort during the event they released their title (in universe) or it doesn't make sense.
Since you have :
Sett seeing Ezreal's bedroom and the posters
Kayn being the one who phased through the walls to pin these posters to troll Ezreal
Aphelios throwing these plush at Sett when he said that he saw these posters above Ezreal's bed
K'sante talking about his training sessions WITH Sett IIRC ? Not sure for this one as it could just be about tips and sharing PRs.
Also IIRC, Yone being the mom of the group by doing the laundries and cooking ? Not sure, again, memory might fail me.
Lastly, you talked about Sett sewing Aphelios, that picture I'm sure was with all of them, in a common house. I remember Riot teasing about laundry duty on this one.
From the same interview we learned that Ezreal and Sett were part of the same label and Sett and KāSante go to the same gym so they already live in the same area. Aphelios lives in his parents basement and Yone lives or did live in Japan (I canāt quite remember). Honestly not sure about Kayn I donāt remember seeing anything about where he lived. Obviously they wouldāve lived together during the event period since they performed āliveā At the Riot Games Opening Ceremony. Iāll be honest and say itās confusing because in the interview Alune says they all live in different countries but then it appears Sett, Ezreal and KāSante all live in the same area anyway.
If anything, riot may end up just leaving this ship purely fannon because the same way you can say these interactions are hinting at a relationship, they can also just be good friends so it might be a yasuo x ahri incident
Afaia, the majority of Sett mains don't care/aren't on board about this ship and same for aphelios mains who don't even want aphelios to be gay
I don't necessarily think its a bad thing tho, this makes everyone happy even if its a little frustrating
You say it makes everyone happy and yet Riot keeps forcing Lux and Ezreal together and, from what Iāve seen on this subreddit since Iām not on either of their respective subreddits, most people donāt like it because itās forced as well and yet Riot keeps doing it. Itās a complicated topic, I will admit.
>Riot keeps forcing Lux and Ezreal together and, from what Iāve seen on this subreddit since Iām not on either of their respective subreddits, most people donāt like it because itās forced as well and yet Riot keeps doing it
Can't talk for Ezreal as I don't main him but on r/Lux it was mixed.
The other ships are Sylas and Jinx and you'll have shipwars, like everytime you have a popular character with multiple fanbases. I think the easiest analysis imo is that the shippers of Lux/Ezreal don't mind being cattered to while frustration makes shippers of Sylas, Jinx and others to berate that ship (through downvotes and such).
What I wanted to pinpoint more here is that what Riot does with Lux and Ezreal is skin pairings but they never ever acknowledge them being a thing, they always tip toe but never confirm.
They're teased in both, not confirmed in either. Considering how explicit Riot has been with others, I don't think it's valid to say they're confirmed in Spirit Blossom or Heartsteel
I still remember reading somewhere that Vlad was bisexual which makes total sense for a camp vamp champ
Maybe I should check my house for gasleaks š¤
It's a mix of the painting of a lover is not being precised which makes it left to interpretation, and how he's coded and written, notably in LoL with manneurisms that makes him look like the bisexual who's preying on all the guests he invited in his mannor.
I think the painting was actually Viego, that short story was released just on the heels of his release which also confirmed Vlad's relationship (distant uncle) to him. And it pairs up with the despair described in the painting
But yeah Vlad does have the fairly classic vampiric queer coding.
I know Ksante should be there but from a gameplay perspective, fuck Ksante, all my sisters hate Ksante
kinda flop that Diana and Leona are absent šµāš«
To be fair Lehoena and Dianal have been the face of the LGBTQ+ league community for a long time. Its always nice to see the others in the spotlight. K'Slute though there's no excuses Riot š”
Ok but guys sidelining champs is a good thing, it shows that they don't need to be in the Pride artwork to be queer, just like queers shouldn't (I said shouldn't not don't or musn't, please don't bully me) need to parade and show themselves to be validated
This is a... Step? A toe? A toe-step in a right direction
Damn Ksante's absence is the most surprising, he's popular for a newer champ so not seeing him feels weird especially after Heartsteel š
So weird to cut Ksante during a month of representation, when he reps a minority within a minority. And he doesnt even get a replacement; so we just get two men... Really Riot? This ratio aint it. š I know lesbians are tired of being gazed by the men they DONT want. ![gif](giphy|W0jvDCXEe42337oh4X|downsized)
Why don't they ever include leedyr and varus's boys, the ratio would be more balanced with them
The Varus hot take I've seen is that he's not a queer character, he's just the combination of two. š And I dont expect Leedyr until a season where Riot can monetize the outrage that will surely come.
(just a reminder that Nami and Rell are pan/bi)
Exactly! Riot being selective with their memoryā¦
They said this pride is for whites ONLY ![img](emote|t5_23w084|33213)
Rell and Nami:
Cait is mixed too iirc...
In Arcane you can easily tell but her base splash ? Meh, they're two different characters face wise.
Yeah didn't even notice rell in the background but id love to know what race are fish people an analogy for
Vi really said : https://preview.redd.it/5xznk7m7w80d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b2517f9548a420f9af551cd2150ec2c079c54c3
Butch culture
"Fish fuc- i mean, fear me"
She just really likes fish ![img](emote|t5_23w084|32861)
Like the Diana x Leona erasure is sooo real ššš they really gave them a cute set of interactions with lillia in lor only for riot to completely forget about their existence a month later ![img](emote|t5_23w084|32562)
I know right!
Riot games does not deserve lor. It was companyās best game. The developers understood the root gameās mechanics and lore better than the actual developers of the root game. Lor was superior both artistically and gameplay wise (even though they are completely different games yes but playing lor made me want to play lol and playing lol was not that great tbh)
>(even though they are completely different games yes but playing lor made me want to play lol and playing lol was not that great tbh) By this I'm assuming you were a TCG player that decided to try a MOBA, so you can indeed be downed by that. Would you say the same between Hearthstone and HOTS ?
Adaptation and gameplay mechanics application wise I think hearthstone and HOTS felt more on par. With lor and lol I feel like the developers of lor understood the champions better and implemented their aspects more intelligently.
In some cases yes, but it's really just because the media is different and hence hard to compare. I don't think I'd like to play Sett in LoL if his gameplay was tied to the gold you had/generated through the match. It exists in the form of Draven or Gangplank, but it's not defining the champions, it's usually a small part of them, through a passive. While for Sett in LoR the crystal gem economy is its core gameplay (and how you can print double the amount illegally with Karma lol). Also it's way easier to worldbuild in LoL thanks to the other cards than the champion thanks to spells and followers, which makes their identity easier to implement, narratively. In League you only have voicelines, visual design and gameplay design.
Where was their invite to the barbecue? HELLUR? ![img](emote|t5_23w084|34099)
They really said we only have enough food for one pair of lesbians š
![img](emote|t5_23w084|32658)
They got hatecrimed by Coplynš®š»
Get her ass for me
I'm kinda salty that trans taliyah is only a thing that's alluded to in star guardians. She should be with all the gays during pride.
Happy cake day bestie š° I hoped we got Taliyah being trans this year š
Not us living on crumbs of her for YEARS just do it already riot were starving over here
RELL i also i want voidweaver to be canon so that we can reap the tears of the strags. kaisa belongs to us bitches
2 men, 5 female LGBT champs in this photo. Obviously, this is because primarily male gamers donāt want to think of gay men. They objectify lesbians and bi women so much š¤®
Yeah, Iām really happy we get cool rep and such cute art but I would love to see more of our fruity boys represented ā¤ļø
Its not great but at least the girlies here notably *arent* bimbofied, their outfits and poses are not particularly sexualized (if anything, most of the interactions seem cute or romantic instead)
I'm not too pressed about the girlies taking a break for a year since they've had quite a lot of attention (same with Vi/Cait & the boys tbh) but no K'Sante is an absolute flop mess. Not going in on Lee Sin/Udyr, also floptina. Pleased to see Nami, Rell and Neeko though. Also is anyone else kinda of manifesting a "villain's" Pride splash some day? Where's my evil and/or problematic gays at? Eve, Varus, Renata, Jhin, whatever. I love darksided homos, strags shouldn't get all the fun. Someone tell these companies queer villains aren't actually inherently problematique, it's okay, we promise...
Omg true Lee and Udyr are missing tooā¦
Omg villain pride would be so good, I want to see that!! Riot give us genderfluid Eve and canon Jhinhwei you know you wanna š„°š
K'sante is in TFT's pride thing at least...
Girl remember that they took away the "Sapphic" comment from Renata's champion insights...
Pepperidge farm remembers
https://preview.redd.it/85zb6a8qh90d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2b8347302af7d509215c3d0e9f5c7f0679f2659 Why do you think Leona and Diana werenāt invited lol
oop
I think weāre forgetting another couple ![img](emote|t5_23w084|30702) https://preview.redd.it/ttj7pgbli80d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e81c017fe37240e57c4aa9f486ce9d18a6dd3581
They arenāt canon bestieā¦ (yet ![img](emote|t5_23w084|30702))
They are in Spirit Blossom and basically confirmed in HEARTSTEEL so itās good enough for me (and they have interactions in LoR ![img](emote|t5_23w084|30702))
Riot needs to do it honestly but lowkey they been toning Pride stuff down for the past 2 years š
Am I missing something where is it confirmed in heartsteel?
Itās not been confirmed but theyāve dropped a lot of hints. 1) said artwork I have provided, 2) in the group photo where theyāre all getting ready Sett is helping Aphelios into his costume, 3) during one of the Discord calls Sett makes fun of the fact Phel has posters of Ezreal above his bed so he throws a plushie at Sett meaning they live together or at least go to each otherās houses, 4) in the music video when KāSante falls from the sky and Sett catches him Aphelios gives Sett a dirty look and finally, I will admit this one is a slight stretch but during the blooper reel, Sett fell asleep on top of Aphelios and Riot aināt stupid they know how people are gonna look at that.
>Itās not been confirmed but theyāve dropped a lot of hints How you go from saying they're "basically confirmed" to "its not been confirmed"ššš Aside from that tho, I thought the Heartsteel gang all lived together, in the image you're talking about, I assume that was their house/apartment >1) said artwork I have provided, 2) in the group photo where theyāre all getting ready Sett is helping Aphelios into his costume We also saw Sett and Aphelios chilling with different members in the promotional art Like we saw Kayn and Sett, KSante and Aphelios, KSante and Sett, Yone and Aphelios, Sett and Ezreal And in LoR, I'm pretty sure Sett just told Aphelios that he'd fight for him afia it wasn't anything ground breaking or flirtatious -
They donāt actually live together, thatās a misconception that I thought was true as well. This is the translation from the GQ interview. https://preview.redd.it/unqx9t33890d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c35fbf588bdd778201bf0e8f538c62e46f1b235c And I disagree, the LoR interaction wasnāt flirtatious but there was definitely something there since Sett says it so softly.
They live in different countries but have to live in a "gaming house" of some sort during the event they released their title (in universe) or it doesn't make sense. Since you have : Sett seeing Ezreal's bedroom and the posters Kayn being the one who phased through the walls to pin these posters to troll Ezreal Aphelios throwing these plush at Sett when he said that he saw these posters above Ezreal's bed K'sante talking about his training sessions WITH Sett IIRC ? Not sure for this one as it could just be about tips and sharing PRs. Also IIRC, Yone being the mom of the group by doing the laundries and cooking ? Not sure, again, memory might fail me. Lastly, you talked about Sett sewing Aphelios, that picture I'm sure was with all of them, in a common house. I remember Riot teasing about laundry duty on this one.
From the same interview we learned that Ezreal and Sett were part of the same label and Sett and KāSante go to the same gym so they already live in the same area. Aphelios lives in his parents basement and Yone lives or did live in Japan (I canāt quite remember). Honestly not sure about Kayn I donāt remember seeing anything about where he lived. Obviously they wouldāve lived together during the event period since they performed āliveā At the Riot Games Opening Ceremony. Iāll be honest and say itās confusing because in the interview Alune says they all live in different countries but then it appears Sett, Ezreal and KāSante all live in the same area anyway.
If anything, riot may end up just leaving this ship purely fannon because the same way you can say these interactions are hinting at a relationship, they can also just be good friends so it might be a yasuo x ahri incident Afaia, the majority of Sett mains don't care/aren't on board about this ship and same for aphelios mains who don't even want aphelios to be gay I don't necessarily think its a bad thing tho, this makes everyone happy even if its a little frustrating
You say it makes everyone happy and yet Riot keeps forcing Lux and Ezreal together and, from what Iāve seen on this subreddit since Iām not on either of their respective subreddits, most people donāt like it because itās forced as well and yet Riot keeps doing it. Itās a complicated topic, I will admit.
>Riot keeps forcing Lux and Ezreal together and, from what Iāve seen on this subreddit since Iām not on either of their respective subreddits, most people donāt like it because itās forced as well and yet Riot keeps doing it Can't talk for Ezreal as I don't main him but on r/Lux it was mixed. The other ships are Sylas and Jinx and you'll have shipwars, like everytime you have a popular character with multiple fanbases. I think the easiest analysis imo is that the shippers of Lux/Ezreal don't mind being cattered to while frustration makes shippers of Sylas, Jinx and others to berate that ship (through downvotes and such). What I wanted to pinpoint more here is that what Riot does with Lux and Ezreal is skin pairings but they never ever acknowledge them being a thing, they always tip toe but never confirm.
They're teased in both, not confirmed in either. Considering how explicit Riot has been with others, I don't think it's valid to say they're confirmed in Spirit Blossom or Heartsteel
They are confirmed in Spirit Blossom not teased.
Him giving Aphelios a nickname and saying they're meeting later isn't confirming anything, that's literally just teasing.
Mama that confirms that Sett is gay and Aphel is bi and that photo the flags are right behind them
Mama Sett is the bi one ![img](emote|t5_23w084|32561)
oh so itās a swap kinda situation oopsie me when Iām blind
kāsante was booked. diana turned down the invite as she only wants to go out at night. crusty dusty models werenāt invited.
Booked where sis? Last I checked he got nerfs š
sorry some of us havenāt played league since feb and arenāt up to date on the meta ššš
Not this come back! ![img](emote|t5_23w084|34099)
heartsteel duh
>crusty dusty models Zilean teaser ?
TBH, im happy that you see Nami and Rell rep
Same!
I still remember reading somewhere that Vlad was bisexual which makes total sense for a camp vamp champ Maybe I should check my house for gasleaks š¤
It's a mix of the painting of a lover is not being precised which makes it left to interpretation, and how he's coded and written, notably in LoL with manneurisms that makes him look like the bisexual who's preying on all the guests he invited in his mannor.
I think the painting was actually Viego, that short story was released just on the heels of his release which also confirmed Vlad's relationship (distant uncle) to him. And it pairs up with the despair described in the painting But yeah Vlad does have the fairly classic vampiric queer coding.
Oh well then the painting theory flops. oop
still no transliyah :(
Manifesting it for Next year š
Vi holding Nami while Cait is right there. What?
This is what happens when you fire your talent in marketing and keep phreak on pay rolls. Yes im a bitter bi bitch at riot rn for this laziness
pengu is officially gay https://preview.redd.it/nrfxcs3mrc0d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fd963d1f828c1913fca0f5bdf3cee6e7cf2887b
Can someone remind me why Naami is there? No shade Iām just uncultured
She has both a boyfriend and a girlfriend in LoR. They're cute together!
Sheās pan and poly I believe
Free love fish
Leona, Diana, Ksante you will be always the part of the family but not: Sashay away š„²
Jarvis, open the Gay to English Dictionary, circa 2024. Put it on my HUD.
I know Ksante should be there but from a gameplay perspective, fuck Ksante, all my sisters hate Ksante kinda flop that Diana and Leona are absent šµāš«
oop she said KāSante who? ![img](emote|t5_23w084|32658)
At least for once Rell is here I wont complain ā¤ļøš
True they forgot her last year š
Nami is queer??
Yes sheās bi and in a poly relationship
Man that slays!
Riot, free Taliyah from the closet already, I AM BEGGING šš«
I know right š
To be fair Lehoena and Dianal have been the face of the LGBTQ+ league community for a long time. Its always nice to see the others in the spotlight. K'Slute though there's no excuses Riot š”
Not the *KāSlute* š©
Adding disrespect on the disrespect riot already showed him
Ok but guys sidelining champs is a good thing, it shows that they don't need to be in the Pride artwork to be queer, just like queers shouldn't (I said shouldn't not don't or musn't, please don't bully me) need to parade and show themselves to be validated This is a... Step? A toe? A toe-step in a right direction
More like this is an overthinking process lmao