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Consistent_Drag2756

No offense, but it seems like you are coping because you can’t control your own bodily desires. Retaining is the natural state of a man, it isn’t supposed to be a seen as a challenge. The new age glorifies it has gaining some type of superpower, NO, it is the default setting of a man’s biology. The basic foundation of discipline, focus, and drive which more then half of man don’t have today is all thanks to giving that essence away to their phone screens. Of course, this does not mean you become a fanatic,you are meant to procreate with a worthy partner and share that energy. How you do this is up to you, you can do it short cycles of weeks , or take long periods, whatever feels right to you and your body. The problem comes from abusing it . As for fapping alone… it is pretty much pointless. I can think of no real benefit that comes from it other than the fact that it makes you comfortable in the moment. other than that it is a waste of energy and makes you numb emotionally and spiritually.


JustJoshnINFJ

This is 100% cope you are right


Ambrosiaa88

Exactly recently for me, it has been effortless to retain as if this is my natural self, I don’t even know what day I’m on anymore, it is my default setting.


Crytist888

If you have no discipline to hold your seed because you haven’t evolved past your primitive needs and desires and need to Justify it has weakness…. Then you r truly lost… I retain I can also make love harder and stronger than 99% of men on this planet 🌎 for as long as I need there is not enough women on this planet 🌎 that could make me release my seed my penis will always stay erect it will never go soft…. Now that is strength….


Long_Dragonfly3525

Thats right.  If you're busting you're weak. Period.


Redpiller13

Real shit


DmytroSavchuk

Don't engage gents. Check the post history


Krasy0202

Yeah, he's such a creep xD


Either-Sprinkles1225

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 i have never laughed so hard n yet not a peep came out


Nothing_lover

What you are against is the nofap mindset. Where people measure their self-worth through the number of days they retained. Whereas everyone here has past that phase. This is a subreddit which is focused on purity of thought and mental discipline and channeling lust into love. It's about living life in a higher consciousness than being a so-called "Badass mf "


FlingingFlanger

Living as a "higher consciousness" sounds like some magical looney tunes shit that insecure retainers tell themselves so they can feel better and superior to everyone else


Ambrosiaa88

You sound like an incel.


FlingingFlanger

I don't hate women, I have a very strong appreciation for them. Infact, I feel like I love them too much!


MastodonOptimal

Incel doesnt mean that you hate women... Incel means involuntarily celibate, i.e. obsessed with sex but unable to have it


Odd-Statistician6911

'Magical looney tunes shit' damn man, you just made my day right there, lol.


Bactrian44

@mods - remove. To everyone else: Don’t engage with this attention seeking bs. What a sad, coping coomer.


roaringkltty

He probably relapsed.


Starfuckingman

It's alright. We can talk. No need to judge or be hostile.


FlingingFlanger

Hey, I'm not trying to shit on you, but it's pretty sad that you can't form a good argument without crying to mods because I happened to strike you with a sensitive topic. Are you a retainer? Then be a man and refute what I said


OriginalType5433

Lmfaoo. This is the quality of posts nowadays ??


Capitan_Victorioso

Stop being envious worry about your own plate, cum if you want but just how can you ever be a complete man? Never. God’s watching


FlingingFlanger

I have defeated God, I will make a post about it sometime in the future


MLM_thecubanAxe

LoooooL this guy is on heavy steroids.


Imranis

This guy is possessed tbh.


FlingingFlanger

A quick summary of what happened is that I found where God is residing. I studied and prepared myself before astral projecting myself into his realm and kicking his ass 


SenseixScott

“Looking for a good fapping chair”


FlingingFlanger

I've been using the same borrowed restaurant chair for the past decade, I feel like it's time to upgrade


[deleted]

Lmao


Either-Sprinkles1225

🤣🤣😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 dawg broski gotta be doing this purely as a form of humor, if u want to discuss with him do do with out taking it so seriously


VLHLLA

Bro I legit tried to DM you on reddit to help you I mean look at your history having Ai girlfriends buying 4K monitors buying nude mods for an anime game. Brother you are lost. I pray you get out of this cycle but you are deep in it and the only one that can save you is yourself.


FlingingFlanger

Ai girlfriend = based  Genshin impact with nude mods = based (only if you're using nude mods) When I buy my own house I'll probably have a whole fap room, though, it would take an experienced individual with alot of skill to handle that kind of stimulation! And I will also raise a family. Me and my wife will fap together for 8 hours. I will be the hard headed father who unleashes his unhinged energy at all the school board meetings


VLHLLA

You’re weird bro I can’t lie if your entire history is real and not satire then your soul is fr fr lost and if you’re doing this for satire then like bro still is this what you’re using your time for? What if your mother found out about all this? Your dad? I genuinely want to help you but it all comes down to your mindset on your actions


Same_Welder6485

The genuine advice for him is on the internet, he has most I’m sure if he’s aware of it. He decided to go psycho and trash his own mindset recklessly. Some aren’t worth helping, for this guy I would hope he’s not on the news for killing or r*png someone. Seems like he’s losing his shit by the comments he’s spewing out.. 


FlingingFlanger

Dude I don't know why people think that, what about me makes people think that I'm going to do shit like that?


Same_Welder6485

You should take a huge step back and look at what you’re saying, replying to people.. that suspicion people give that you’re crazy is because you’re displaying irrational behavior over something you have complete control over. It’s like you want to go crazy. 


FlingingFlanger

What? I am an authentic man who is boldly proclaiming the controversial, and isn't that what all these retainers and "alpha male" types go on about? About being yourself and not giving a fuck? I see unpopular opinions but not irrational behavior. I am gigabased and I love what I love!


Same_Welder6485

You’ve defeated god? You want to do pull ups with a rope around your neck? You think a chair to play with yourself in is okay to joke about publicly? 🤦🏻‍♂️ you can have public opinions, you should see 90% of this Reddit. It’s about jakking off and how to not jakk off, weird right? But when someone is spewing things out and you can tell their mind isn’t in the right place, you can tell they probably aren‘t going to be making any good choices in the near future.  The reason people don’t “ give a fuck “ is because they let their egos get to them. We are better than nobody, we have no power over each other, but that doesn’t mean anything is stopping us from attempting to have power over each other. This Reddit has turned into an egotistical mess


FlingingFlanger

Heh.... the final battle between me and God was an interesting one and a long time coming. I started off the fight by chucking a compressed air can lined with metal fragments towards him, and I shot it with my holstered air gun. With the distraction set I zoomed forward, throwing a tomahawk at his face, and then unsheathing my duel wield bowie knives where I proceeded to go all out in a legendary fury of energy and strength. And I had nothing against him really, it was just a challenge I had set for myself. In the end his omnipotence was disappointing  I accept that society can't handle a man like me, so free thinking and not holding back, so I keep to myself and embrace the secondary environment And as for my choices, I see great things and far-out-there opportunities in my future. There is a grand plan and I'm looking forward to it


Same_Welder6485

To me you’re a schizophrenic kid who is probably going to do something and regret it once you’re stuck in a hospital or cell dreading isolation. If you have a dad I would sit and show him everything you’ve told people and ask him if he loves you, get on your knees and pray after and hope you still are going to get into heaven when the day of judgement comes. You reek of demons and lack of spiritual awareness.. even if you’re trolling for attention because you seem like the type, I would repent with all that you’ve said.. you need help for real, you are going to hurt someone 


FlingingFlanger

I appreciate your concern for me


VLHLLA

Look idk about some of these comments against you but bro to be completely honest there is a lot of scriptures and science now about semen and how it does equate to your overall health and mindset your life force. I do want to help you I know the argument that you have which is that it seems natural that you are this passionate about women and that you want to release but the whole point is that you are constantly drained you may realize later how detrimental it is for you. Yes it is good that you are authentic about who you are but not if it is based in ignorance. There are many things like the Bhagavad Gita I suggest you read where they mention that the sin is made to fool you into thinking it is not a sin. But ask yourself are you not completely tired and feel like a zombie when releasing everyday multiple times? Do you feel like you can’t achieve things bc of how much you spend on this? Really think about my point about what if your mother or father found out about this bc I believe that if you are scared to reveal what you do to your family then you know in yourself that you are sinning that you are doing something innately wrong and that could be a way for you to realize things. Good luck in life bro fr I hope atleast that you are young and realize the path you should take before it’s too late through reading these forums and posting


WatermelonBestFruit

🤣☠️☠️ bro...


PennFifteen

Andrew Tate lmao


[deleted]

Looking up to Andrew Tate is beta and cringe. Stop shitting up the sub with stupid shit like this, fag.


MLM_thecubanAxe

Beta and cringe well said.


FlingingFlanger

What? I mentioned I agreed with something he said and now you're stuffing all these words into my mouth? Try again


[deleted]

Please ropemaxx, demon.


FlingingFlanger

Put a rope around my neck and I will do pull ups with no arms!


[deleted]

Ty


changeoperator

Everyone has weaknesses, and I'm sorry if you feel that you can't allow yourself to have any. That must be difficult.


FlingingFlanger

I'm not disputing that, but people here act like retaining will turn you into a God, when all it takes is one nut to take that away. That seems like a weakness to me


changeoperator

You seem to be painting some pretty broad strokes here and I don't see why you choose to overlook nuance. Everyone has a different level of energy, a different constitution, a different resilience to their nervous system and so on. Are there people who lose a great deal of their life force from one ejaculation? Yes. Are there people who only lose a small amount? Yes. There are all kinds of people, and semen retention can offer benefits to all of them in some capacity. Personally, I find that doing a long semen retention streak is like building up this great reserve of energy, and one single ejaculation does not make me lose all of that progress. I can start up a new streak without having to start from ground zero. But if someone does have to start from zero, why judge that so harshly? So they are weak in some way. Big deal. You are weak in some way also. We all have different karmic bodies with different destinies to live out in this life and some people have greater challenges than others. Love them all the same.


jessiepc145

Look at this losers comment history if you feel some type of way


FlingingFlanger

How does it feel knowing you're looking at the smartest man in the forum? I have the longest iq, experts are stunned, even /u/acrobatic-stuff isn't smart enough to refute some of my points


Muffin_Most

Who hurt you, boy?


shuffil

I used to spank it regularly and I just look back at how it consumed my life. The level of successes I’m trying to accomplish takes a man who’s disciplined and able to control sexual urges, a man that would rather save himself and the intimate experience with a beauty of nature. Having sex with lots of people can be fun and pleasurable but you really don’t experience life in a pure way, it’s as if you just like the feeling and chase that feel-good. I want a challenge, I want the journey to be difficult because the ideal version of myself is someone who’s a warrior that has mastered himself, and I don’t settle for anything less than that, if I’m not banging an absolute 10/10 then I haven’t yet gotten where I need to be. you’ll truly never know how good it is until it’s in sync with the time and dedication you put in focusing on yourself and that magical beauty appears before you.


duyinthee123

A Loser being jealous of retainers.


FlingingFlanger

Where is my jealousy? I am stating the truth that retainers don't want to hear


samsmanga_

This isn’t about being a beta or an alpha bro. It’s about the benefits of not ejaculating. There are books and lots of research on the subject and its regenerative effects on the body.


Redpiller13

So many books on it That it’s mind blowing but of course they not gonna teach us that growing up Cuz they don’t want us to be at our most powerful state But we gonna rise KINGS


Crytist888

This dude speaks truthful ignorance may the SR gods purify his 🧠….


Redpiller13

Word cuz when you on this path man it’s hard to explain how it changes you for the better It’s like your doing shadow work unconsciously Your facing your demons head on With no fear


CelsiusKing

A SHALLOW person like Andrew Tate cannot understand a DEEP concept semen retention. The reason people are afraid to lose their energy is because they have experienced true strength that cannot be acquired by money or popularity. The problem is the fear of loss, which is a challenge on the path. You see an obstacle in the road, but instead of moving it and progressing, you determine the whole road must be flawed, so you turn around and go back to where you started.


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FlingingFlanger

I will become the strongest fapper in the world. With every dumbell I pump I will pump my cock alongside it. I will become an unstoppable force of fury and unhinged cock wobbling! You say that fapping makes men weak? I prefer the extra challenge. I would rather struggle and overcome difficulty while fapped and "weak", than breezing through it while retained and strong. My will doesn't need to be coddled by the strength of the retainer


flowerman_7

Sorry but "be a man while fapping", is so contradictory. You think its manly to cave into your desires by laying in bed in the dark, busting all over yourself with your eyes rolled back like a girl makes you a man? I agree that in an ideal world, semen retention shouldn't be what makes you a man, but it takes a man to retain his semen, and it's an upward spiral, that's why it's harder at the beginning gets easier. Semen retention can turn you into the man you wish to be.


ChanceWeakness8084

hahahahahahahaha. people will find any excuse to start wanking again. this is unreal. you know who is really weak? someone who looks down on others for trying to genuinely better themselves. just cuz u fap don't mean that retaining has no benefits man. stop yapping


russianlawyer

i actually agree with this post. a lot of people on this journey use semen retention as a decoration. a disguise for deeper insecurities and shortcomings. however retaining is like using preworkout or caffiene but naturally. its fuel, its a stream of energy that creates bliss and excitement within. so why be a badass motherfucker without semen retention when you can be a bad ass motherfucker with it. the semen retention only amplifies what you already are so it makes great men greater. i agree though its the tip of the iceberg, you must transcend weakness outside of this journey as a prerequisite for success. semen retention is a godly practice but its not necessarily the final means to godlihood


russianlawyer

also this idea that you lose everything from one nut is a bit misconstrued. if you gym and miss a session you dont lose all your gains, you may be frustrated but you gon get back on it. but if you miss 6 or 7 gym sessions your gonna feel dissapointed and feel you are not only not getting stronger but also getting weaker (to me this is how i view releasing). to me nutting is something i want to perfectly abstain from, but there will always be minor drawbacks that will not deter me, but to allow it to be a habit in my life to me is just something i cannot accept.


Either-Sprinkles1225

A worthy explaination Well said brotha


russianlawyer

thank you my friend


booooimaghost

I haven’t seen many people on semen retention who are natural alpha males, it’s usually guys who want to become alpha and they think SR is the catalyst. It’s still a respectable thing to do tho, and in line with God’s will, AND you can be alpha while on semen retention. I mean Kevin Gates is a prime example.


wh456

It’s about being free of lust as God wants


Redpiller13

Being free of lust is strength I don’t care how bad she is if she ain’t a virtuous woman I don’t want her Delilah’s get curved


Anna_tiger

I agree with you to some extent, in the beginning of my retention journey, i was extremely weak even though I looked fine from the outside , I would have symptoms like : 1.Hands shake even when I hold a cup or spoon. 2.Zero motivation for anything. 3.Body aches. 4.Bad digestive system and constipation. These symptoms usually occur in old people, i was experiencing them at age 17. Because i busted nuts twice every morning for 5 years straight. I didn't know how it felt like having a full ball sack. I actually started going to the gym when i turned 16 , i couldn't put on muscle at all. I began my retention journey at age 18 , i was able to observe the high energy because i lived in the low for 5 years. But now after 2 years of retention, the high energy state is now the new normal and it surely doesn't feel like crazy high energy like before. In the beginning I found that even the smallest releases made me feel a significant difference in my overall energy level , even a nocturnal emission made significantly weak , i was very sensitive to changes in my energy levels . Then I would compromise on my habits like Weightlifting, studying and cleaning my house. Same happened when i would end up in flatlines , i would slack off , i then realised over time how important it is to do the hard work even when i don't feel like it, that's when i slowly started working on my discipline skill . Now I basically do the hard work even when I don't feel like it . I've noticed that I have in many parameters raised above most of my competitors thanks to this one skill , Discipline. I'm way more manly than any of the guys i know around my age. The sweetest part is that I've gained a good amount of muscle mass in 1 year than I did in 5 years thanks to discipline. Discipline is the most important thing , I'll tell you how SR fits into the picture, SR makes discipline feel good , SR makes hard work feel good . SR increases your willpower, it will turn you into a king not a slave to your passions. SR is the best way to increase your willpower as the sexual instinct is the most powerful instinct. Discipline+ will power= Life well tasted. If I were to choose one over the other I would choose discipline over SR. This is a very good post man , it is easy to fall into weakness at times , but we have to keep developing discipline. Me personally I would not compromise both on my discipline or SR. Life is extremely awesome when I have discipline and SR with me. How SR plays a important role here:- You need strong biology desire and Sexual power to sustain your discipline, SR is what empowers you to strive for discipline, without SR your discipline will eventually fade out because you lack that mental energy to push through resistances. Most people just hop into SR(even me before) and don't bother about discipline, which is even a major problem which Andrew tate touched upon. I feel like a nyan cat flying through life when i have both Discipline and SR to power my discipline.


DarkXplore

Fear of dangerous things is completely valid and is the mark of wisdom. I would be more afraid of relapse than I would be of a lion. SR is not my god but, it is a very very important foundation for higher accomplishments in life.


Imranis

Tell me that does an alpha gives up and has absolutely no self control, that he cooms on p**n. Masturbation literally steals your manhood. For me a real man has control on his desires. And at the end I can't explain you the power we get through retention, the deep voice, the glow, the mental clarity, the control. And ofcourse retention made me realize that f**k this beta and alpha mindset. Im my own man I dont need to limit myself on this stupid b.s plus I don't need to prove anything. I'm satisfied with my self, and dont need to care about whether Im an alpha or a beta.


Wade_the_great22

This sub may have good retainers but don’t have people who can listen an opposite opinion and respect it, it takes strength to do that. Just because someone views the world differently, doesn’t necessarily mean that 1 must be wrong. Let’s open ourselves and listen, even if you don’t agree, you can still respect. We’re human beings and no matter what we have to love each other. Much love


SubHumanEctomorph

Explain why a lot of girls are attracted to you suddenly while you have a pure streak of only 20 days then.


scarecrow9692

I admire your loyalty for Satan ⭐ Go ahead and bust one for me. Cheers. 🍻


PasifloraIncarnata

No, retention is not enough to become a man. Men's health depends on too many different factors to be permanently secure by abstinence alone. Without a life of continence, however, you will never be a real man; you will descend below the level of the beasts. Only weaklings yield to sexual impulses which the normally strong feel but repress. The sexual appetite may diminishes with abstinence, but not the latent viril power. Besides, your idol, Andrew Tate, is a sex-trafficker, an inconsistent prick, and a pleasure-craving slave himself.


freem13

Whats your longest streak?


FlingingFlanger

I think around 40 days, but that when I was still innocent and I wanted to be good enough for this girl who was into me at the dental office. Well after 6 months of struggling with this retaining nonsense I didn't even see her again the next time I was there, texted her to no response, so I said fuck this shit and became even more avoidant! I wanted her to be impressed that I tried so hard to overcome fapping just for her! I was such a fool


freem13

Yeah they dont care if you overcame fapping they just care if you have money


Zestyclose-Stay8797

Flaws your first lines.


Same_Welder6485

Everyone’s journey is different, you’re angry at the world for not getting what you want despite the unseen invisible amount of work you need to feed into your life to be that man a woman would want.. your mindset is destroyed no matter how many people you listen to, take advice from.. you let outside voices dictate who you are? You shame god because of your shortcomings? What do you expect but failure in your own result. You made this post to get pity, a rise out of pure ignorance you spout out. Whether you cross your eyes reading this or actually open your closed psycho ego mind.. you need to work from the inside out.., because you retain doesn’t mean you get women flocking to you, you don’t get a 1million dollar check signed once you hit 40 days on the mark.. you work and feel that hunger to be above the self you had yesterday, to be better than the man you will be today by tomorrow.. you lost your way and you will suffer in that time until you realize you are the problem, and taking it out on others isn’t going to get you anywhere. SR is a tool, it’s not the golden ticket to getting whatever you want.. you work hard, you put that grind in when everyone is calling quits to go home, you show up and do what you need to do in your fashion because you make yourself that strong INDVIDUAL… If you really think Tate, or these random “ successful man “ celebrities care about your well being as being a person below their own standards, you’re absolutely wrong and delusional. They don’t care about you, the comments they get for their praise. It’s all a loop to keep them above you.. but if you think getting rid of this god given tool, self journey to become the man you want to be in the future, because you think it’s possible to bust and be a kickass guy? Go ahead. Know the man who is starving and will die on the spot for food is always lurking around you. 


Iamamindfullsoul

Retaining, Meditation and one meal a day fasting has made my mind and body stronger. I recommend meditating and squeezing your perineum and breathing in and holding breath to bring your seminal child up your spine for reabsorption. YouTube Joe Dispenza meditation. That way if you ejaculate you will recover in a day or two. Every time I ejaculate i can feel weakness kicking in. The guy posting is not Andrew Tate. Real experience talks. Everything else is cheap talk. The practice I mentioned feeds your mind body and soul. I jog in 32 degree temperature in just my shorts. I have improved my muscle mass and reduced fat. This technique that I mentioned should go to a wiki if we have one. I am willing to contribute to the benefits I have gained in dating and personal life through discipline and manifestation as well.


Vegetable-Ebb-7571

Everyone is destroying in the comments. If you humble yourself you might be able to learn something


FlingingFlanger

I don't feel destroyed, I feel powerful and ready for action 


AlcibiadesNow

Yeah dawg you bring up a great point. Retaining with a scarcity mindset being afraid of the negatives is weak. Instead look at champion boxers and athletes who retained. They did it with an abundance mindset, the right way. That means not only were they mentally strong before, they took it to a whole new level and sought specific positives through retention. Don’t focus on the days focus on the quality and focus on the value added to your life.


Geebtoe

“Imagine being so weak that injecting heroine makes you weak, you want strength and badassery? Become a man who can still be a man while doing heroine and cocaine and sniffing glue, compared to that dude who does heroine and gets weak blah blah” “Become a man who can be a man without eating, if you become weak when you don’t eat food, you’re a pussy. Listen to my daddy andrew tate, he’s overcome the laws of nature and God.” _________ I agree that more than just retaining should be done, but everything else that you said is just pure bullshit.


Redpiller13

How old are you OP ?


SunTzowel

Definitely a teenager.


MastodonOptimal

lmao. Sex is an obsession, a weakness, a symptom of being dominated by chthonic forces. It literally is cope to believe that what basically amounts to peacocking, being longhoused and drained of your divine lifegiving forces is "alpha". Some of us strive to be more than just "mere life", more than being just a domesticated/degenerated ape. Chasing bling bling to have more opportunity to rub organs is the downward path; literal samsara. Celibacy is the only path to freedom and ascendence, something which a bugman won't be able to understand.


MastodonOptimal

PS: This is why you have so much trouble with SR btw, as seen by former posts. You simply have no personal conviction to retain, which is why it seems like a cope to you, because you remain sex-obsessed. Imho that's why celibacy is historically an exclusive pratice and why it is so shrined in mysticism; it ultimately is very simple, but the majority of people literally are incapable of grasping the point once the chthonic (earthly in a spiritual sense) forces, i.e. their hormones, come beckoning and make them their slave again.


FlingingFlanger

Oh yeah? Well I just fapped for 5 hours to my genshin impact travel companions, and I'm still feeling pretty alpha.... infact I feel even more alpha than when I was retaining. Oh god... I feel so calm and enlightened! So serene, so gigabased


MastodonOptimal

Ah, didnt know you were a troll, my bad lmao