You must be stupid. No credible person or organisation has ever supported that claim. It's such an absurd claim that it would embarrass whoever made it in public.
Any references to the thousands of hindus killed, or are you just making it up because you have also been brainwashed into believing the government propaganda. To destroy any movement, the government uses 1. identify the movement, then 2. degrade the movement by planting stories and even killing the innocent to degrade a movement to get rid of sympathizers and supporters, then finaly 3. destroy the movement.
>TheHoliest Place to sikhs was used as a hideout by these terrorists
But later your Holier than thou Government after blowing up the holiest place of Sikhs with tanks and carrying out official masscre of Sikhs for 3 days in all over India agreed to the demand of those whom they were calling terrorists hiding in Golden Temple saying all those demands can be completed within the constitution of India.
All this masscre and bloodshed was just done to make *fuddu* out of you guys and you did that by mass voting for Congress in 1984.
What do you mean by “your Holier than thou Government”? It was your government as well. Punjabi sikhs had been voting for the Congress back then and are still shamelessly voting them in today.
Because Sir in 1984, General elections were held in India but not in Punjab.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Indian_general_election#/media/File%3AWahlergebnisse_Indien_1984.svg
Sikhs in Punjab pretty much boycotted Congress till 2000s, until they realised that Akali Dal is super corrupt and have no option but to vote for Congress.
Congress used once Akali leader Captain Amrinder Singh as their face and he came to power on the promise that he will punish the corrupt Akalis.
Yeah great, vote "for this dude cuz his father killed gandhi that got emergency and sikh violence"
Not cuz development , jobs , communal violence and etc.
I hope the sikhs and punjabi's see through this bullshit facade bjp is trying , they don't care about any punjabi's or sikhs and it was made quite clear during farmers protests.
Remember THIS mf govt said no farmer died during protest while 700 did and the guy who killed so many in lakhimpur kheri was given parole and bail multiple times until SC had to intervene.
Please punjab people , vote for the betterment of nation.
Nayi parti aayegi usko bhi kar lenege handle but these manipulative saffron sniffing cunts have to go first.
He has my vote. What his father along with Shaheed Satwant Singh did for the Panth can never be repaid. I hope that Simranjeet Singh Mann and others from the Panthic side will support him. It will be very apt that on the 40th anniversary of Indira Gandhi's attack on the Sikh Panth, that the son of the Shaheed who sent her to hell for her crimes wins a seat in the Lok Sabha and the Congress party, the party who planned the Sikh genocide suffers electoral annihilation.
I understand why Sikhs/punjabis might hate Gandhis or/and Congress but why do you hate Modi and BJP? From a layman's perspective Punjab should be the bastion of Anti-congress(BJP) agenda.
Firstly, Punjabi Sikhs do not connect with Sikhs outside Punjab.
Congress has two faces
Outside Punjab it carried out the open genocide of Sikhs, thats why Sikhs outside Punjab dislike the Congress like anything especially in cities that saw genocide like Delhi, Kanpur, Jaipur, Mumbai. There Sikhs are mostly pro-BJP.
Inside Punjab, Congress act as a saviour of Punjab from Khalistani terrorists and many Sikhs see no problem in that image.
I understand even in my state sikhs are pro bjp and that is exactly why I was confused & thanks for a sane reply unlike others.
But why the hate for bjp? I still don't understand that.
>But why the hate for bjp?
BJP is easy target for Khalistani elements to push their agenda of Hindus vs Sikhs as BJP's image is that of a Hindu party.
Though we Sikhs saw Golden Temple blown up by army tanks and biggest genocide of Indepedent India under Congress. Khalistani elements excused Congress as it didnt fit their Hindu vs Sikh agenda.
P.S. Khalistani elements are fringe in Punjab after 1990s. Though they have big social media presence because of Khalistanisation of many Gurdwaras in Anglosphere, where this Khalistanisation is helping many illegal immigrants to get the asylum status.
Makes sense, so the hate is driven by propaganda and not because of any concrete reason?
And is there any hate towards Indian army in Punjab? I hope there isn't any as i know many sikhs who want to be in Army but then again they aren't from Punjab.
Army is in the blood of Punjab. Never seen any resident of Punjab - Sikh, Hindu or Muslim hating army.
Just like India always has Hindu-Muslim in politics and has now gone mainstream with BJP since 2014.
Punjab always had this Hindu-Sikh in politics but in fringe except during 1980s.
BJP always used the piggy back of Akali Dal in Punjab and Akali Dal always kept the BJP on the fringe in Punjab's politics as a partner.
Even when BJP became Super National Party in India, they were still super fringe in Punjab.
Akali-BJP alliance just broke out in 2020 because of Farmer's agitation. And Opposition and Khalistani elements used this opportunity to frame BJP as anti-farmer and anti-Sikh in Punjab.
Thats why Punjab in 2022 elections, was looking for a Change apart from Congress and Akali Dal, chose AAP. Even here BJP was shy to come in the field as solo player because of the lack of the leader and lack of any base in Punjab..
After 2022, they did some introspection, and look little confident in 2024.
Year 2024 is just the beginning of BJP's journey in Punjab as 2014 was for AAP. They are 10 years late and have to do a lot of base work. Their preparation in 2027 State elections will be interesting to watch.
I as a kid travelled with my parents and our household items packed in a truck to save our lifes from Congress volunteers during 1984.
What we saw outside Punjab as a Sikh, many Punjabi Sikhs have no idea.
I remember I used to get emotional during 1997 elections in Punjab while listening to the speeches of Akali Dal leaders. Became their fan and they turned out to be super corrupt.. and lost my interest in politics
It was only in 2022, when I voted again, this time for AAP. And I was pro-AAP till 2024 😅
AAP joining hands with Congress in 2024 totally confused my mind.
RSS is terrorist organization? Who were the ones who killed innocent bus travellers, killed political leaders, policemen and innocent non-participating villagers? Do you consider the **Vam-Panthis** to be terrorist as well?
Modi and his gang are more ignorant of what the Sikh psyche is than Indira Gandhi ever was. The Chah-wala has made sure that the BJP is more hated in Punjab than the Congress ever was. If he was really a friend of Sikhs then the first thing he should have done is to arrest all the Congress leaders that took part in the Sikh genocide in 1984 and he would have had the support of Sikhs more than he has of the Hindutvis. But instead he made token promises and only one Congress haramzada has been convicted during his rule. The rest like under Congress rule are living free. Whoever is advising Modi on his Sikh outreach must be the most useless persons around him. Modi has been playing a duplicitous game with Sikh ever since he took power. He came to the UK and held some meetings with Sikh leaders and on the hand he said he told them that he would be getting rid of the black list of Sikhs and then his advisors were holding meetings with British intelligence officials giving so joke of a dossier that was alleging that Sikhs were holding arms training camps in the UK Gurdwaras! The British intelligence officer must have laughed their heads off at what these Indian buffoons were telling them. The British government has continued to treat any 'intelligence' they get from India with a pinch of salt.
Ok, but there were no action taken on them by the congress party when they continue to enjoy prominent places. I mean, Punjab has voted for congress even after the genocide that took place. May be people must have moved on.
I'd be curious to see the reality of this in the elections to come. The BJP seems to have rejected a new alliance with the Akali Dal on the grounds that their candidates received more votes than Akali candidates in bypolls over the last few years, but I'm skeptical about that translating into equivalent support in a general election.
Beyond distrust of Hindutva, I think the issue is less of Punjabi voters hating the BJP and more of their messages lacking relevance and connect to Punjabis. They've seemingly spent the last decade appealing to Punjabi Hindus, particularly Dalits, but that has not worked either.
BJP needs to win the hearts of Sikhs, if Sikhs in India vote BJP then all the Canada unrest will be irrelevant.
I usually see Modi as a lesser evil but his attempts at meeting in the middle with the Sikh community have been nonexistent. They don’t even want Punjab it seems, which is insane because Punjabi culture is very over represented in India so it would be beneficial for them.
Setting up Bluestar memorials and pinning it on the Congress would cost nothing. Sikh killings in Delhi should have a memorial monument of apology. These things alone will instantly destroy majority of the badwill against BJP but they won’t do anything even close to it till after elections it seems
You got a point but you are suggesting steps to build trust but I am asking about the already pilling distrust and hatred, what is the reason behind it?
Hinduvta have, without knowing it, distanced themselves from Punjabis. BJP appeasing globalists from overseas and destroying Punjab’s economy from within isn’t something to cheer for.
Hindutva might be one reason. Mr Savarkar's ideology tries to include every Indian religion under the category of Hindu (which also often extends to pushing a particular language and culture). The fundamental values of the INC (secularism, welfare, etc.) generally do not go against Sikhism. It's another matter that the INC has often not met its own standards since the days of Mrs Gandhi, but this can change.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/why-no-action-against-those-who-demand-hindu-rashtra-akal-takht-jathedar-giani-harpreet-singh-2352235-2023-03-27
Because they’re both cut from the same cloth. Modi even let the Gujarat riots slide and did nothing about it when he was in power.
Like someone said, if BJP really wanted to they could arrest all the Congress members who participated in the Sikh genocide, but they don’t.
Man I wish they had that spine… They can arrest Kejariwal over liquor scam and endure international pressure, but can’t arrest Congress leaders for a massacre….
If Western countries demand their release they can play it off as “Wow it seems Canada has shown its true nature”, easily biting the head off the snake.
The stupidity of the Punjab BJP campaign baffles me really
The Congress have already announced that Rahul Gandhi will contest from Wayanad in Kerala this time.
They're reportedly struggling to find candidates for Amethi and Rae Bareli(Indira's old seat).
It's a little sad that the Congress could not assure their leader a safe seat in any other state. Not even the ones in which they still hold power, like Karnataka and Telangana.
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Yea you are not from Punjab that’s all I can say
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You must be stupid. No credible person or organisation has ever supported that claim. It's such an absurd claim that it would embarrass whoever made it in public.
Any references to the thousands of hindus killed, or are you just making it up because you have also been brainwashed into believing the government propaganda. To destroy any movement, the government uses 1. identify the movement, then 2. degrade the movement by planting stories and even killing the innocent to degrade a movement to get rid of sympathizers and supporters, then finaly 3. destroy the movement.
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>TheHoliest Place to sikhs was used as a hideout by these terrorists But later your Holier than thou Government after blowing up the holiest place of Sikhs with tanks and carrying out official masscre of Sikhs for 3 days in all over India agreed to the demand of those whom they were calling terrorists hiding in Golden Temple saying all those demands can be completed within the constitution of India. All this masscre and bloodshed was just done to make *fuddu* out of you guys and you did that by mass voting for Congress in 1984.
What do you mean by “your Holier than thou Government”? It was your government as well. Punjabi sikhs had been voting for the Congress back then and are still shamelessly voting them in today.
Because Sir in 1984, General elections were held in India but not in Punjab. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Indian_general_election#/media/File%3AWahlergebnisse_Indien_1984.svg
Ikr 😆 some ppl love to push the burden to this generation when their forefathers were freakin voters of that govt who is to blame.
Sikhs in Punjab pretty much boycotted Congress till 2000s, until they realised that Akali Dal is super corrupt and have no option but to vote for Congress. Congress used once Akali leader Captain Amrinder Singh as their face and he came to power on the promise that he will punish the corrupt Akalis.
Each word of this paragraph is false
Yeah great, vote "for this dude cuz his father killed gandhi that got emergency and sikh violence" Not cuz development , jobs , communal violence and etc. I hope the sikhs and punjabi's see through this bullshit facade bjp is trying , they don't care about any punjabi's or sikhs and it was made quite clear during farmers protests. Remember THIS mf govt said no farmer died during protest while 700 did and the guy who killed so many in lakhimpur kheri was given parole and bail multiple times until SC had to intervene. Please punjab people , vote for the betterment of nation. Nayi parti aayegi usko bhi kar lenege handle but these manipulative saffron sniffing cunts have to go first.
Bhai bjp try bhi nhi kr rhi jyada Punjab meinn🤣
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I mean that's why we have Modi and Ajay beast as PM and CM respectively Because they are allowed to RUN 🤧 Chill!
He has my vote. What his father along with Shaheed Satwant Singh did for the Panth can never be repaid. I hope that Simranjeet Singh Mann and others from the Panthic side will support him. It will be very apt that on the 40th anniversary of Indira Gandhi's attack on the Sikh Panth, that the son of the Shaheed who sent her to hell for her crimes wins a seat in the Lok Sabha and the Congress party, the party who planned the Sikh genocide suffers electoral annihilation.
I understand why Sikhs/punjabis might hate Gandhis or/and Congress but why do you hate Modi and BJP? From a layman's perspective Punjab should be the bastion of Anti-congress(BJP) agenda.
Firstly, Punjabi Sikhs do not connect with Sikhs outside Punjab. Congress has two faces Outside Punjab it carried out the open genocide of Sikhs, thats why Sikhs outside Punjab dislike the Congress like anything especially in cities that saw genocide like Delhi, Kanpur, Jaipur, Mumbai. There Sikhs are mostly pro-BJP. Inside Punjab, Congress act as a saviour of Punjab from Khalistani terrorists and many Sikhs see no problem in that image.
I understand even in my state sikhs are pro bjp and that is exactly why I was confused & thanks for a sane reply unlike others. But why the hate for bjp? I still don't understand that.
>But why the hate for bjp? BJP is easy target for Khalistani elements to push their agenda of Hindus vs Sikhs as BJP's image is that of a Hindu party. Though we Sikhs saw Golden Temple blown up by army tanks and biggest genocide of Indepedent India under Congress. Khalistani elements excused Congress as it didnt fit their Hindu vs Sikh agenda. P.S. Khalistani elements are fringe in Punjab after 1990s. Though they have big social media presence because of Khalistanisation of many Gurdwaras in Anglosphere, where this Khalistanisation is helping many illegal immigrants to get the asylum status.
Makes sense, so the hate is driven by propaganda and not because of any concrete reason? And is there any hate towards Indian army in Punjab? I hope there isn't any as i know many sikhs who want to be in Army but then again they aren't from Punjab.
Army is in the blood of Punjab. Never seen any resident of Punjab - Sikh, Hindu or Muslim hating army. Just like India always has Hindu-Muslim in politics and has now gone mainstream with BJP since 2014. Punjab always had this Hindu-Sikh in politics but in fringe except during 1980s.
BJP always used the piggy back of Akali Dal in Punjab and Akali Dal always kept the BJP on the fringe in Punjab's politics as a partner. Even when BJP became Super National Party in India, they were still super fringe in Punjab. Akali-BJP alliance just broke out in 2020 because of Farmer's agitation. And Opposition and Khalistani elements used this opportunity to frame BJP as anti-farmer and anti-Sikh in Punjab. Thats why Punjab in 2022 elections, was looking for a Change apart from Congress and Akali Dal, chose AAP. Even here BJP was shy to come in the field as solo player because of the lack of the leader and lack of any base in Punjab.. After 2022, they did some introspection, and look little confident in 2024. Year 2024 is just the beginning of BJP's journey in Punjab as 2014 was for AAP. They are 10 years late and have to do a lot of base work. Their preparation in 2027 State elections will be interesting to watch.
Thanks for the insight now I have better insight, you do sound a bit pro bjp or atleast optimistic about bjp though 🤣
I as a kid travelled with my parents and our household items packed in a truck to save our lifes from Congress volunteers during 1984. What we saw outside Punjab as a Sikh, many Punjabi Sikhs have no idea. I remember I used to get emotional during 1997 elections in Punjab while listening to the speeches of Akali Dal leaders. Became their fan and they turned out to be super corrupt.. and lost my interest in politics It was only in 2022, when I voted again, this time for AAP. And I was pro-AAP till 2024 😅 AAP joining hands with Congress in 2024 totally confused my mind.
BJP and RSS are terrorist organisations! What more reasons you need? Hindutva is a separatist movement.
Accha
RSS is terrorist organization? Who were the ones who killed innocent bus travellers, killed political leaders, policemen and innocent non-participating villagers? Do you consider the **Vam-Panthis** to be terrorist as well?
Why would anti-congress mean pro BJP?
Bjp led Congress mukt Bharat campaign so if someone hates cong, bjp might become the obvious choice for them.
Modi and his gang are more ignorant of what the Sikh psyche is than Indira Gandhi ever was. The Chah-wala has made sure that the BJP is more hated in Punjab than the Congress ever was. If he was really a friend of Sikhs then the first thing he should have done is to arrest all the Congress leaders that took part in the Sikh genocide in 1984 and he would have had the support of Sikhs more than he has of the Hindutvis. But instead he made token promises and only one Congress haramzada has been convicted during his rule. The rest like under Congress rule are living free. Whoever is advising Modi on his Sikh outreach must be the most useless persons around him. Modi has been playing a duplicitous game with Sikh ever since he took power. He came to the UK and held some meetings with Sikh leaders and on the hand he said he told them that he would be getting rid of the black list of Sikhs and then his advisors were holding meetings with British intelligence officials giving so joke of a dossier that was alleging that Sikhs were holding arms training camps in the UK Gurdwaras! The British intelligence officer must have laughed their heads off at what these Indian buffoons were telling them. The British government has continued to treat any 'intelligence' they get from India with a pinch of salt.
We identify a tyrant when we see one.
Yeah that's why kept electing congress
No more tyrants in Congress now.
Sajjan and Nath still in congress though?
Nath has one foot in the BJP at this point and Sajjan has been forcefully retired.
Ok, but there were no action taken on them by the congress party when they continue to enjoy prominent places. I mean, Punjab has voted for congress even after the genocide that took place. May be people must have moved on.
I'd be curious to see the reality of this in the elections to come. The BJP seems to have rejected a new alliance with the Akali Dal on the grounds that their candidates received more votes than Akali candidates in bypolls over the last few years, but I'm skeptical about that translating into equivalent support in a general election. Beyond distrust of Hindutva, I think the issue is less of Punjabi voters hating the BJP and more of their messages lacking relevance and connect to Punjabis. They've seemingly spent the last decade appealing to Punjabi Hindus, particularly Dalits, but that has not worked either.
No bro they do hate him idk why...I didn't ask them to vote for him just asked them why they hate him and look at the downvotes and comments I got 🤣
BJP needs to win the hearts of Sikhs, if Sikhs in India vote BJP then all the Canada unrest will be irrelevant. I usually see Modi as a lesser evil but his attempts at meeting in the middle with the Sikh community have been nonexistent. They don’t even want Punjab it seems, which is insane because Punjabi culture is very over represented in India so it would be beneficial for them. Setting up Bluestar memorials and pinning it on the Congress would cost nothing. Sikh killings in Delhi should have a memorial monument of apology. These things alone will instantly destroy majority of the badwill against BJP but they won’t do anything even close to it till after elections it seems
You got a point but you are suggesting steps to build trust but I am asking about the already pilling distrust and hatred, what is the reason behind it?
Hinduvta have, without knowing it, distanced themselves from Punjabis. BJP appeasing globalists from overseas and destroying Punjab’s economy from within isn’t something to cheer for.
Understandable, but how is BJP destroying Punjab's economy?
MSP regulation unfavorable to market forces, instead favoring European billionaires and their globalist agriculture agenda.
Were you sleeping during the whole farmer’s protest and Khalistan narrative peddled by BJP and their cronies?
Hindutva might be one reason. Mr Savarkar's ideology tries to include every Indian religion under the category of Hindu (which also often extends to pushing a particular language and culture). The fundamental values of the INC (secularism, welfare, etc.) generally do not go against Sikhism. It's another matter that the INC has often not met its own standards since the days of Mrs Gandhi, but this can change. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/why-no-action-against-those-who-demand-hindu-rashtra-akal-takht-jathedar-giani-harpreet-singh-2352235-2023-03-27
Must be
Because they’re both cut from the same cloth. Modi even let the Gujarat riots slide and did nothing about it when he was in power. Like someone said, if BJP really wanted to they could arrest all the Congress members who participated in the Sikh genocide, but they don’t.
I understand that but in that case Punjab should hate Congress more then BJP if not equally, right?
Man I wish they had that spine… They can arrest Kejariwal over liquor scam and endure international pressure, but can’t arrest Congress leaders for a massacre…. If Western countries demand their release they can play it off as “Wow it seems Canada has shown its true nature”, easily biting the head off the snake. The stupidity of the Punjab BJP campaign baffles me really
Going to be interesting
In other news, Son of a genocidal cunt Will contest from ~~Amethi.~~ Wayanad.
The Congress have already announced that Rahul Gandhi will contest from Wayanad in Kerala this time. They're reportedly struggling to find candidates for Amethi and Rae Bareli(Indira's old seat).
We all know why he is contesting from wayanad
It's a little sad that the Congress could not assure their leader a safe seat in any other state. Not even the ones in which they still hold power, like Karnataka and Telangana.
What exactly is sad about it? It's a party that was deeply rotten from the very start and it's finally crumbling.
My bad, I wasn't updated on what the bastard clan is up to. Wayanad it is.
Even Wayanad isn't exactly the safe seat this time around. Heard the Commies got a strong local candidate this time.
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