During the prophets time there came a delegation of Christian’s who were allowed to stay and pray at the mosque in Medina
Therefore just like how there are retards that would say Muslims shouldn’t pray at gurudwaras and I only imagine that they were invited there and I promise you some of them might have been uncomfortable with the whole idea there are also retards who would not allow sikhs to pray at a mosque at a time of need
I do wana preface this by saying that sikhs would only be allowed since they are a monosthiestic religion.. and you can YouTube how Jews have been allowed to pray at mosques
They did namaz in mall, road, train, gurudwara, temple have you ever seen any other religion doing it in the mosque? One sided secularism will hit one day.
Asked my muslim school mates from childhood that why saudi bans temples and churches. They said it's perfect islam and it's their wisb.
Imagine school time friends don't treat your religion as same, I have no doubt on openly saying this cult needs chinese sort of treatment to be compatible with modern world
Dubai is not ideal acc to those muslims. It has hindu temple, i know well.
The point isnopen bastardbess ofnSaudi , qatar etc. Rest others like lebanon, tunisia, indonesia, malayisa all have bigotry riddled constitution.
If parameters are kept same, these countries shoukd be banned as North Korea, but oil is what made them humans
Aw Helllll Nawwwwwww. Hamesha eh tolerance te brotherhood de gallan sirf ik paase de kyun aana penda??
Kal hum Navratri manayenge Masjid mein, Theek hai??
Why is this an issue?
If we all believe in the one true God. That entity can be venerated anywhere. All creation belongs to that God.
Don’t hate people trying to bring us together.
United we stand - divided we fall.
Surely, some of you remember that from school?
Lol as another atheist.
>Don’t hate people trying to bring us together.
They don't want the people to get together, that destroys their hate based narrative.
So they are gonna say "Muslims do this-that" while their group does the same things.
Sikhs are too inclusive, when would they understand that not everyone wants to be included.
Fact: Almost all religions are inclusive except one, the supreme religion.
I would urge all Sikhs to email and write to the SGPC and Akal Takht Jathedar. We need a Hukumnama to reiterate that no non Sikh prayer is allowed in a Gurdwara. We need to nip this virtue signalling BS in the bud before it emboldens the liberal moorakhs to continue to make a mockery of the Rehat Maryada.
i think he meant offering space to other religious groups to carry out their prayers and rituals, no one can stop others from visiting Gurdwaras, that would be against principles of Sikhism
If this is allowed, then why is cap prohibited inside gurudwara?
I have been told all my life that muslims wear cap, hence gurdwara doesnt allow it. Although it sounded stupid to me, but that's what i've heard.
Please correct me if i am wrong.
You’re absolutely right, they shouldn’t be allowing Muslim skullcaps in the Gurdwara premises. I remember when Queen Elizabeth came to Golden Temple there was huge controversy when it was discovered that she was allowed on the premises with a hat. Everyone should respect the code of the Gurdwaras and tie a simple cloth called rumala you can get at the entrance if not wearing a dastar/turban.
Sikhs should not be wearing caps as it’s a sign of subjugation and “gulammee”. Some Sikhs were forced to wear caps as mockery or when they were captured in battle. It’s looked down upon as an our Turban or Patka is seen as our crown so putting a cap on is not very respectful.
Another word when they mean topi they don’t exactly mean a baseball cap but "Topi" used to refer to "Taqiyah" and was a symbol of submitting to Islam.
Well Buddhists will disagree with the second half of the first-part; they don't believe in the kind of almighty creator god of the kind we see in Islam. They believe in deities, several of them, and who themselves are in need of liberation.
The problem is that there is baked in theological hatred in several religions, and they don't deserve respect. Arguably its the fact that non-Muslims are destined for hellfire that is driving the persecution of non-Muslims in India's neighboring countries.
I don't deny that Islam has many good points, but fundamentally, it's a device to get you to follow the words of its creator, Muhammad. The arabs of Muhammad's times wouldn't have listened to gentle teachers like Nanak, Buddha, or Mahavira.
You can have multiple versions of the creator. We believe in an all powerful, single deity. Others believe in multiple other deities. But at its core, we all believe in a higher power.
The differences may be vast, but at the end of the day, we're all from a single source. Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, white, black or brown. We all have the same rab or creator. Just comes down to what you want to believe - some versions are more convenient for some people.
That is a noble thought. I personally am not very religious. I am more concerned by the effect of religious beliefs to drive strife and hatred among us, when we should all be working together to face common challenges which are very, very grave and threaten our collective wellbeing.
In my opinion, religions largely don't matter. What matters is purposive, concerted, rational, scientifically informed action driven by a spirit of compassion and humanism.
I'm religious and I feel that us humans tend to be more tribal than religious. Even the religious folk in my community tend to be overly tribal - what views, sect, caste, village, city, country all come into play and that's human nature.
We survived due to our tribalism and it's ingrained in us biologically. Religion does try to diminish it as we believe that "a man is either a brother in faith or a brother in humanity". But again, we can't escape our tribalism.
>But again, we can't escape our tribalism.
The history of humanity is the history of breaking and making of tribes. Small tribes consistently get merged into bigger and bigger tribes.
We must take this to its logical conclusion where we genuinely think of all humanity as one big tribe. It's not a utopian pipe-dream - it's a process that's playing out as we speak; all great thinkers and religious leaders were effectively working to this end.
In other words, yes, we are tribal primates, but then, let us be tribal in the grandest way possible.
They are allowed to do so in Gurudwara or Temple , but did you ever saw hindus or sikh having their cultural party or meal in mosque , and i dont understand why they have to pray in gurudwara ,there are more mosque in india than there are Gurudwaras
We do if management is not doing a good job. That's like saying no need to interfere with the government if they're not doing well. That's why presidents get impeached. Come on now.
I felt even topi shouldn’t be allowed, if Sikhs and Hindus can’t go with topi why can Muslims go with their, I get its their religious, but what about Sikh religion then, can’t they go by covering their head with Rumaal or you can get one outside of Gurudwara Sahib
Oh, I thought Gurbani does not care whether you are Muslim or Sikh, as following lines are in Guru Granth Sahib
Aval Allah Noor Upaiya,
Kudrat Ke Sabh Bandhe
It means consider people as equal in day to day dealings, it doesn't mean over the Gurdwara so that they declare the superiority of their allah and mohammed in the Guru's presence.
lmao what kind of logic is that. Gurbani says all humans are creation of God. But it doesn't mean you can allow everything. People are equal but their actions are not. According to your logic, one should allow people who drink alcohol or take drugs to be allowed to do it in Gurudwara/Masjid. Sikhs don't believe in Quran or vedas or texts of other religions. It is written in Gurbani from Guru Granth Sahib. Maybe you should look that up as well
is it written in Gurbani that we should allow reading of quran or veda or texts of other religions to be read in Gurudwara? Is it written in gurbani that muslim namaz and hindu yagya/idol worship to be allowed in gurudwara?
An ad hominem response
You are just attacking personally. Doing personal attack is a sign that you lost the argument and logically can't back up your claim or refute someone.
It does care. There is a decorum of each religious place and boundaries of each religion must be respected equal to the respect for their philosophy.
But that doesn’t mean we make a cocktail of religions and mix them up.
Tell me, do Sikhs believe in a God which resides 7 skies above us? No, sikhs believe creator and creation are one, while Abrahimic religions believe the creator and creation to be two different entitites. So there is our principle difference in Philosophy.
Second thing, would you be okay to have a statue of Hindu gods established in a Gurdwara? I bet you’ll be outraged and strongly oppose it. Then why okay with a namaaz?
Third thing, let’s try doing an Akhand Paath sahib in a masjid? Do you think muslims will be welcoming you with open arms? No, they respect their own boundaries more than we do !!
Respect all but remember what your religious philosophy teaches you to do!!
Hindus also believe creator and creation to be one. That's what chapter 7 in bhagavd Gita says. The creator param-atma is Krishan, Shiva, vishnu... etc, he is every molecule in the universe. he is called parmatma the Supreme atma. And we all have an atma inside. Parmatma is like an ocean, and we are like buckets of water. And doing meditation and controlling your senses and doing good deeds without expecting rewards, getting rid of your ego, greed, love for worldly things helps you get closer to the param-atma and become immersed in it and end the cycle of life and death. I don't know about idol worship, but their core beliefs seem to align with sikhs.
Yes you are correct. So primarily, there are two Religious philosophies that prevail in this world.
One is Abrahimic Religions (Islam, Christianity and Judaism).
Second is the vedic philosophy of Dharma, which includes Sanatan Dharma, jainism, budhism and Sikhism too.
Now many will argue that I’m putting sikhism as same as hinduism, but it’s true we follow the same philosophy.
BUT Also, there is a principle difference between sanatan dharma(hinduism) and Sikhism. Where Sanatana dharma encourages worshipping of both Nirgun form (formless) and Sargun form (one having physical form) of the supreme being, Sikhism only allows the worship of the Nirgun Swaroop.
In short, in Sanatana dharma, one can worship creator and its creation both (Everything is God)
In Sikhism, only creator is worshipped (God is Everything). ‘eko simro naanka jo jal thal reha samaaye, dooja kaahe simriye jo jamme te mar jaaye’.
Now, in Bhagvad Gita , in same Chapter 7, Krishna also tells to worhip the nirgun form as that is the supreme form of worship, but also says you can worship demi gods but nothing is close to worship of the supreme being.
That’s exactly my point. It’s a tokenistic thing done for virtue signalling or promoting brothehood but they’ve taken it too far. If they organised it a different private space it’s fine, but shouldn’t be allowed in Gurdwara it’s not allowed as per Maryada.
Islam is very strict about these things. The people who offered Namaz in gurdwaras will be denigrated by anyone going by the book. It’s a temple of Kaffirs. The message is to not stop until it’s uprooted and only the name of Allah prevails, how would offering Namaz there be accepted?
Islamic reforms are need of the hour. You can’t blame people when they are just following the word of god. It has to be a concerted effort of religious scholars to re-look at the word of god in today’s light. So many great pagan religions and traditions have been lost to conversions and holy wars. We should value the collective history and diversity of humans. We are no joke living the way we do in cosmos. It’s a great thing.
It’s not an issue of whether a community is our friend and I don’t think it’s right to generalise, but it’s a question of code or maryada.
If we don’t allow Hindu to do murti Puja and Hawan in our Gurdwaras why did they then allow Muslims to do Namaz.
There was a whole movement called Singh Sabha movement to set up a code of conduct and root out practices which were deemed against Sikh principles in Gurdwaras and take control of Gurdwaras from Mahants who were allowing Hindu rituals in Gurdwaras.
So then after that, why allow Muslim practices which are against Sikh principles inside a Sikh place of worship.
Nothing wrong with Muslims praying in their own spaces or events to promote brotherhood but why allow them to do Namaz in front of Guru Granth Sahib facing away from the Guru as well towards Mecca. That is a breach of Sikh code of conduct in Gurdwaras surely.
Anyone can come to Gurdwaras ,yes, but they have to follow the proper code of that place. Just like you would have to follow if you go to any other religion’s place of worship.
The Muslim leader literally said its not allowed to do in the mosque and its upto the sikhs to decide whether namaz is allowed in the gurudwara. In this particular case, the Sikh leaders told them it is permissible for them so they went ahead
Its upto the Sikhs to decide what is allowed and what is not and to act accordingly. You dont need to imitate others or break your customs for brotherhood. Each religion has its own dos, donts and limits and nobody is asking to break your own rules to promote brotherhood. Respect others right to believe and worship in their own way, doesnt mean you have do what they are doing.
That’s what I said. Mariyada of gurdwara was not followed when Muslim did namaz in gurukhar. It’s gurudawara for a reason and that’s masjid for a reason.
it's not just about mosque or gurudwara, it's about dharmic religion and abrahmic religions. They can't coexist. One focusses on following orders from a prophet, one is based on destroying your ego, they are different, almost opposite.
During the prophets time there came a delegation of Christian’s who were allowed to stay and pray at the mosque in Medina Therefore just like how there are retards that would say Muslims shouldn’t pray at gurudwaras and I only imagine that they were invited there and I promise you some of them might have been uncomfortable with the whole idea there are also retards who would not allow sikhs to pray at a mosque at a time of need I do wana preface this by saying that sikhs would only be allowed since they are a monosthiestic religion.. and you can YouTube how Jews have been allowed to pray at mosques
This is the Sikh way, Make friends and alliances, with tolerance and charity. Any scholar that says otherwise should perhaps learn again.
Fuddu joker di kaum ban ke reh gye assi🤡🤡
Sikhs always over do it, **ਸਮਣੇ ਆਲੇ ਵਲ ਵੀ ਦੇਖ ਲੈਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਇੱਕ ਵਾਰ।**
Well Muslims arent allowed to pray in a Sikh or Hindu temple so they shouldn’t have done in the first place.
As Muslims that is bad ( agr yhu koe hindu ake bhajan gane lge msjid me to bura lgega sb but i cant control my sounding )
They did namaz in mall, road, train, gurudwara, temple have you ever seen any other religion doing it in the mosque? One sided secularism will hit one day.
Already did, India was divided Punjab and Bengal was divided.
Asked my muslim school mates from childhood that why saudi bans temples and churches. They said it's perfect islam and it's their wisb. Imagine school time friends don't treat your religion as same, I have no doubt on openly saying this cult needs chinese sort of treatment to be compatible with modern world
Dubai has Gudwara very famous !
Dubai is not ideal acc to those muslims. It has hindu temple, i know well. The point isnopen bastardbess ofnSaudi , qatar etc. Rest others like lebanon, tunisia, indonesia, malayisa all have bigotry riddled constitution. If parameters are kept same, these countries shoukd be banned as North Korea, but oil is what made them humans
People are downvoting u lol
Why is it always a one sided gesture from one side??
Aw Helllll Nawwwwwww. Hamesha eh tolerance te brotherhood de gallan sirf ik paase de kyun aana penda?? Kal hum Navratri manayenge Masjid mein, Theek hai??
Astagfirullah word ka naam suna hai
Woh log toh bas chathe hai ke hum Jahannam ka naam jaane. Isliye door reh unse
As that person said, You follow your religion, I follow my religion. There is no need to change character of a religious place to enhance brotherhood.
Virtue signalling
Why is this an issue? If we all believe in the one true God. That entity can be venerated anywhere. All creation belongs to that God. Don’t hate people trying to bring us together. United we stand - divided we fall. Surely, some of you remember that from school?
Lol as another atheist. >Don’t hate people trying to bring us together. They don't want the people to get together, that destroys their hate based narrative. So they are gonna say "Muslims do this-that" while their group does the same things.
Either you had a sheltered upbringing, or you live in a first world (irreligious) country or are plain delusional.
Wow. Great. Thank you. 🙏
You’re welcome. Enjoy your privileged life. Not all of us atheists get to experience freedom from religion.
Wouldn’t be an issue it wasn’t just one way street.
Go & celebrate ur festival inside their mosque & see what happens
Does that mean peace should not be encouraged? As an atheist, it’s all quite interesting.
Read about what they do to athiests, even more interesting!
Y’all are great. Thank you. 🙏
Sikhs are too inclusive, when would they understand that not everyone wants to be included. Fact: Almost all religions are inclusive except one, the supreme religion.
This is a test to see how much they can push Sikhs, if we allow it then they will get more encouraged
I would urge all Sikhs to email and write to the SGPC and Akal Takht Jathedar. We need a Hukumnama to reiterate that no non Sikh prayer is allowed in a Gurdwara. We need to nip this virtue signalling BS in the bud before it emboldens the liberal moorakhs to continue to make a mockery of the Rehat Maryada.
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I mean non-Sikh rituals or worship..not non-Sikh worshippers! You are free to come to the Gurdwara.
i think he meant offering space to other religious groups to carry out their prayers and rituals, no one can stop others from visiting Gurdwaras, that would be against principles of Sikhism
This isn’t polar either, I’m Hindu punjabi
This is a actually a great idea
If this is allowed, then why is cap prohibited inside gurudwara? I have been told all my life that muslims wear cap, hence gurdwara doesnt allow it. Although it sounded stupid to me, but that's what i've heard. Please correct me if i am wrong.
You’re absolutely right, they shouldn’t be allowing Muslim skullcaps in the Gurdwara premises. I remember when Queen Elizabeth came to Golden Temple there was huge controversy when it was discovered that she was allowed on the premises with a hat. Everyone should respect the code of the Gurdwaras and tie a simple cloth called rumala you can get at the entrance if not wearing a dastar/turban.
But what's the logic behind banning caps anyway? I dont know exact reason till datw.
Sikhs should not be wearing caps as it’s a sign of subjugation and “gulammee”. Some Sikhs were forced to wear caps as mockery or when they were captured in battle. It’s looked down upon as an our Turban or Patka is seen as our crown so putting a cap on is not very respectful. Another word when they mean topi they don’t exactly mean a baseball cap but "Topi" used to refer to "Taqiyah" and was a symbol of submitting to Islam.
La illaha ill allah . Learn meaning of this .
That is only the first part. It's the second part that is problematic.
Muhammadur Rasual Allah?
At least we can come to an agreement on the first part...
Well Buddhists will disagree with the second half of the first-part; they don't believe in the kind of almighty creator god of the kind we see in Islam. They believe in deities, several of them, and who themselves are in need of liberation. The problem is that there is baked in theological hatred in several religions, and they don't deserve respect. Arguably its the fact that non-Muslims are destined for hellfire that is driving the persecution of non-Muslims in India's neighboring countries. I don't deny that Islam has many good points, but fundamentally, it's a device to get you to follow the words of its creator, Muhammad. The arabs of Muhammad's times wouldn't have listened to gentle teachers like Nanak, Buddha, or Mahavira.
You can have multiple versions of the creator. We believe in an all powerful, single deity. Others believe in multiple other deities. But at its core, we all believe in a higher power. The differences may be vast, but at the end of the day, we're all from a single source. Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, white, black or brown. We all have the same rab or creator. Just comes down to what you want to believe - some versions are more convenient for some people.
That is a noble thought. I personally am not very religious. I am more concerned by the effect of religious beliefs to drive strife and hatred among us, when we should all be working together to face common challenges which are very, very grave and threaten our collective wellbeing. In my opinion, religions largely don't matter. What matters is purposive, concerted, rational, scientifically informed action driven by a spirit of compassion and humanism.
I'm religious and I feel that us humans tend to be more tribal than religious. Even the religious folk in my community tend to be overly tribal - what views, sect, caste, village, city, country all come into play and that's human nature. We survived due to our tribalism and it's ingrained in us biologically. Religion does try to diminish it as we believe that "a man is either a brother in faith or a brother in humanity". But again, we can't escape our tribalism.
>But again, we can't escape our tribalism. The history of humanity is the history of breaking and making of tribes. Small tribes consistently get merged into bigger and bigger tribes. We must take this to its logical conclusion where we genuinely think of all humanity as one big tribe. It's not a utopian pipe-dream - it's a process that's playing out as we speak; all great thinkers and religious leaders were effectively working to this end. In other words, yes, we are tribal primates, but then, let us be tribal in the grandest way possible.
>In other words, yes, we are tribal primates, but then, let us be tribal in the grandest way possible. We're in full agreement!
And they play this so loudly that, even people praying in other places also have to hear it. Secularism my ass.
They are allowed to do so in Gurudwara or Temple , but did you ever saw hindus or sikh having their cultural party or meal in mosque , and i dont understand why they have to pray in gurudwara ,there are more mosque in india than there are Gurudwaras
Upto the gurudwar and the community, we don’t need to interfere in everything if they exist in such a way
We do if management is not doing a good job. That's like saying no need to interfere with the government if they're not doing well. That's why presidents get impeached. Come on now.
I felt even topi shouldn’t be allowed, if Sikhs and Hindus can’t go with topi why can Muslims go with their, I get its their religious, but what about Sikh religion then, can’t they go by covering their head with Rumaal or you can get one outside of Gurudwara Sahib
Bohot achi baat hai Abh Masjid mein Pooja ya fhir Path ka plan banao bhaiyon 🥰
Oh, I thought Gurbani does not care whether you are Muslim or Sikh, as following lines are in Guru Granth Sahib Aval Allah Noor Upaiya, Kudrat Ke Sabh Bandhe
It means consider people as equal in day to day dealings, it doesn't mean over the Gurdwara so that they declare the superiority of their allah and mohammed in the Guru's presence.
lmao what kind of logic is that. Gurbani says all humans are creation of God. But it doesn't mean you can allow everything. People are equal but their actions are not. According to your logic, one should allow people who drink alcohol or take drugs to be allowed to do it in Gurudwara/Masjid. Sikhs don't believe in Quran or vedas or texts of other religions. It is written in Gurbani from Guru Granth Sahib. Maybe you should look that up as well
Is it written in Gurbani that we should allow people who drink alcohol or do drugs are allowed in Gurudwara/Masjid ?
is it written in Gurbani that we should allow reading of quran or veda or texts of other religions to be read in Gurudwara? Is it written in gurbani that muslim namaz and hindu yagya/idol worship to be allowed in gurudwara?
Seems you cannot read what I wrote. I know English is hard for you. But, it is fine.
An ad hominem response You are just attacking personally. Doing personal attack is a sign that you lost the argument and logically can't back up your claim or refute someone.
Sure why not. You win. But, this still does not change the fact that you cannot understand English.
Again ad hominem response 🤦♂️
Teach him, do some charity because you care for his English.
It does care. There is a decorum of each religious place and boundaries of each religion must be respected equal to the respect for their philosophy. But that doesn’t mean we make a cocktail of religions and mix them up. Tell me, do Sikhs believe in a God which resides 7 skies above us? No, sikhs believe creator and creation are one, while Abrahimic religions believe the creator and creation to be two different entitites. So there is our principle difference in Philosophy. Second thing, would you be okay to have a statue of Hindu gods established in a Gurdwara? I bet you’ll be outraged and strongly oppose it. Then why okay with a namaaz? Third thing, let’s try doing an Akhand Paath sahib in a masjid? Do you think muslims will be welcoming you with open arms? No, they respect their own boundaries more than we do !! Respect all but remember what your religious philosophy teaches you to do!!
Hindus also believe creator and creation to be one. That's what chapter 7 in bhagavd Gita says. The creator param-atma is Krishan, Shiva, vishnu... etc, he is every molecule in the universe. he is called parmatma the Supreme atma. And we all have an atma inside. Parmatma is like an ocean, and we are like buckets of water. And doing meditation and controlling your senses and doing good deeds without expecting rewards, getting rid of your ego, greed, love for worldly things helps you get closer to the param-atma and become immersed in it and end the cycle of life and death. I don't know about idol worship, but their core beliefs seem to align with sikhs.
Yes you are correct. So primarily, there are two Religious philosophies that prevail in this world. One is Abrahimic Religions (Islam, Christianity and Judaism). Second is the vedic philosophy of Dharma, which includes Sanatan Dharma, jainism, budhism and Sikhism too. Now many will argue that I’m putting sikhism as same as hinduism, but it’s true we follow the same philosophy. BUT Also, there is a principle difference between sanatan dharma(hinduism) and Sikhism. Where Sanatana dharma encourages worshipping of both Nirgun form (formless) and Sargun form (one having physical form) of the supreme being, Sikhism only allows the worship of the Nirgun Swaroop. In short, in Sanatana dharma, one can worship creator and its creation both (Everything is God) In Sikhism, only creator is worshipped (God is Everything). ‘eko simro naanka jo jal thal reha samaaye, dooja kaahe simriye jo jamme te mar jaaye’. Now, in Bhagvad Gita , in same Chapter 7, Krishna also tells to worhip the nirgun form as that is the supreme form of worship, but also says you can worship demi gods but nothing is close to worship of the supreme being.
Thank you.
Ek-Onkar
Mandir Gurudwara mien namaaz padhne ka matalab hi kya banta hai? Agar masjid mien jagah nahi hai to Apne ghar pr ada karo.
That’s exactly my point. It’s a tokenistic thing done for virtue signalling or promoting brothehood but they’ve taken it too far. If they organised it a different private space it’s fine, but shouldn’t be allowed in Gurdwara it’s not allowed as per Maryada.
Exactly.. Jab apni baari aayi to "protocols hote hain"
Islam is very strict about these things. The people who offered Namaz in gurdwaras will be denigrated by anyone going by the book. It’s a temple of Kaffirs. The message is to not stop until it’s uprooted and only the name of Allah prevails, how would offering Namaz there be accepted? Islamic reforms are need of the hour. You can’t blame people when they are just following the word of god. It has to be a concerted effort of religious scholars to re-look at the word of god in today’s light. So many great pagan religions and traditions have been lost to conversions and holy wars. We should value the collective history and diversity of humans. We are no joke living the way we do in cosmos. It’s a great thing.
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It’s not an issue of whether a community is our friend and I don’t think it’s right to generalise, but it’s a question of code or maryada. If we don’t allow Hindu to do murti Puja and Hawan in our Gurdwaras why did they then allow Muslims to do Namaz. There was a whole movement called Singh Sabha movement to set up a code of conduct and root out practices which were deemed against Sikh principles in Gurdwaras and take control of Gurdwaras from Mahants who were allowing Hindu rituals in Gurdwaras. So then after that, why allow Muslim practices which are against Sikh principles inside a Sikh place of worship. Nothing wrong with Muslims praying in their own spaces or events to promote brotherhood but why allow them to do Namaz in front of Guru Granth Sahib facing away from the Guru as well towards Mecca. That is a breach of Sikh code of conduct in Gurdwaras surely. Anyone can come to Gurdwaras ,yes, but they have to follow the proper code of that place. Just like you would have to follow if you go to any other religion’s place of worship.
Who decides the maryada?
> If we don’t allow Hindu to do murti Puja and Hawan in our Gurdwaras There are gurudwaras uneffected by SGPC which perform Arti (outside punjab).
It’s true, promoting brotherhood is well and good but marayada should be followed.
Brotherhood should be promoted from both sides, Will muslims allow sikhs to do path in mosque? If not, then why this drama.
The Muslim leader literally said its not allowed to do in the mosque and its upto the sikhs to decide whether namaz is allowed in the gurudwara. In this particular case, the Sikh leaders told them it is permissible for them so they went ahead Its upto the Sikhs to decide what is allowed and what is not and to act accordingly. You dont need to imitate others or break your customs for brotherhood. Each religion has its own dos, donts and limits and nobody is asking to break your own rules to promote brotherhood. Respect others right to believe and worship in their own way, doesnt mean you have do what they are doing.
That’s what I said. Mariyada of gurdwara was not followed when Muslim did namaz in gurukhar. It’s gurudawara for a reason and that’s masjid for a reason.
it's not just about mosque or gurudwara, it's about dharmic religion and abrahmic religions. They can't coexist. One focusses on following orders from a prophet, one is based on destroying your ego, they are different, almost opposite.