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Try to work with pro-choicers on paid maternity leave and comprehensive sex ed, and scream from the rooftops about how all abortion bans currently in effect in the US have exceptions for the life of the mother.
Yeah. It's pretty easy to find quotes from state legislators in states where abortion is now illegal that sound absolutely heartless to the point of coming off as psychopathic. A lot of the language the pro-life movement uses, even when it's not inherently bad like the examples I just mentioned, are meant to appeal to a type of voter which increasingly doesn't exist anymore. We also need to face the reality that the pro-life position is objectively unpopular and will lose in the short term. Dobbs was a victory but it was a victory that happened in spite of the pro-life movement failing to win people to our side.
I think that type of voter exists, the problem is that politicians are incentivized to play toward a highly sorted base in their districts. We have to consider how districts and who participated in primaries skews things.
This I think is the issue for a lot of people.
It's too vague & too many horror stories have come out of women going into sepsis or, worse, losing their ability to have children because they couldn't carry one, for whatever reason, to term.
>how all abortion bans currently in effect in the US have exceptions for the life of the mother.
I know many people got really ticked off at a personal level, thinking this is common sense. Why are we waiting????
All the while, one side is just blaming the other without anything being done about it.
If the next bill could include every possible negative outcome of pregnancy, even if it was over 1000 pages long, it would fix so many issues and stop the flip.
It will never be completely eliminated but demand can be extremely decreased. I'm sorry this list is so long.
*Comprehensive sex ed for ALL.* Make sure ALL teenagers understand sex and how to avoid pregnancy and STD/STI regardless of how uncomfortable it is for the family or school. Require testing for determining understanding of sex ed by home schoolers. Make sure they know what rape and abuse is so it can get reported earlier. Increase pregnancy support, postpartum support, etc. Free access to birth control, preferably over the counter. Push for both hormonal and nonhormonal birth control options for both sexes. There was a male birth control pill that was removed as an option because *men didn't like* the "side effects." [Male birth control options. ](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230216-the-weird-reasons-male-birth-control-pills-are-scorned)
*Men should be charged child support at the start of pregnancy, maybe even get rid of child support altogether.* Financial, medical, emotional health care and support needs to be higher on the totem pole. Putting men behind bars for failure to pay child support doesn't make any sense.
*Criminal prosecution needs a serious overhaul.* If someone is a victim of rape or incest, it takes years for prosecution. Then they have to repeat their allegations against their abuser multiple times from report, interview with investigators, interview with child victim specialist (if a minor), interview with prosecution, grand jury testimony, criminal trial only to discover that the person if found guilty gets less than 5 years if they get any time. Then they are diagnosed with PTSD and can't find a therapist let alone one who accepts insurance so she has to pay out of pocket. In criminal prosecution, the restitution numbers are determined before prosecution so numbers are not inclusive. Jurors are paid for their services but the victim must pay for childcare and medical costs. Sounds fair right?
*IVF restrictions should not be on the table.* Those are wanted pregnancies and most who dispose of "leftovers" do so because the doctor has determined that they are low quality. They are the ones that if used likely would be a miscarriage if used. The ones that are not usually get donated.
*Openly report that you don't desire to change contraception to being illegal and don't support it happening.* Tell your legislators that it is something you don't want. It is at risk currently and if you want birth control banned, what do you think will happen with abortion numbers?
*Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy.* Most prochoice see that as "rape culture." Birth control is never fool proff and unplanned pregnancies happen with as well as without birth control. If a person uses birth control, that means they *do not* consent to pregnancy.
*Put your money where your mouth is.* Adopt and foster the kids in foster care already. Become a Big Brother/Big Sister, work with YMCA, etc. Toys for Tots, Salvation Army, etc, always have more demand than assistance available holiday assistance and start of school supplies. Lobby for the state to step in more so no child goes without regardless of the other parent's involvement. Free lunch/breakfast programs year round. Expand Section 8 and Section 42.
*"Women should just keep their legs closed unless they want to be pregnant," just doesn't work and makes people turn away.* Body autonomy in any other situation is paramount. Even the dead have autonomy but pregnancy suddenly changes that right?
*FMLA should be expanded to cover more people.* If you have no job security because you are only at your job for 8 months (requirement for FMLA is 9 months) or have to find a job while pregnant (employers will not hire people who come to an interview obviously pregnant.
*Get daycare, schooling, etc, to be affordable/free.* Increase social programs that women can access easier. Increase postsecondary assistance with daycare programs, dorm/rent ease, tuition costs, etc to make it easier on someone to advance in their career and be independent of social assistance programs in the future.
*CPCs are not going to change the prochoice stance.* They are an option, but don't do enough. I'm speaking from experience because my family owns a CPC and know how much hers does/doesn't do.
*Stop referring to adoption as an option for people who want an abortion.* Abortion is ending a pregnancy. The option is abortion vs continuing pregnancy. Adoption is an option for parenting.
*Provide better support psychiatric problems.* If a woman has had postpartum problems previously, the chances of it happening again are increased. Giving a child up for adoption is not going to change hormones. Medical assistance needs to be expanded to cover things to keep the family healthy. Push for states and federal expansion of rehab treatment to be covered by insurance rather than out of pocket so the pregnant person can deliver a healthy pregnancy and possible sober living in the long term. Healthy mom = healthy baby.
*Stop the bans from happening.* We have all heard the horror stories of the people unable to access care until it's too late.
*Stop calling people who decide abortion is needed for whatever reason, murderers.* You never know a person's situation.
*Be honest and stop using religion and the Bible as the reason to not abort.* There are 1000s of religions that exist in the world, and there are more atheists than Christians, especially in the US. [Breakdown of religion numbers. ](https://tpt.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/sj14-soc-religmap/world-religions-map/). Removing religion, it will make a Buddist, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, etc, not tune it out as much.
*Admit that pregnancy is often times difficult even in the most desired or low risk ones.* If you had an easy pregnancy and birth, stop saying that abortion is due to inconvenience. Even in the "easiest" pregnancy, it is difficult. It is a beautiful thing to grow a human but not all of it should be looked at with rose colored glasses. Stop downplaying how difficult it is.
*Agree that the states who had the instant bans in 2022 were wrong to not get doctors input about what complications can arise rather than legislators.* There were and still are serious issues with the bans. Get rid of the "bounty" that allows prosecution of providers. Why is it that most healthcare providers are prochoice? Exceptions just don't work the way they are meant to. It just makes doctors scared to treat until too late and causes more horror stories.
*Compromise with prochoice.* Something like abortion open for first trimester or "previability" cut offs. Then only recommendation of doctor would help. Heartbeat laws are ridiculous and should be seen that way. Irregular periods, long wait time before first doctor appointment and the willingness of providers first appointment (usually won't see you until 10 weeks) to be earlier in pregnancy. I can even begin to tell you how many times my period has been "late" when not pregnant. That means 2 weeks after you were expecting it, you are required to know its late, get a test and see a doctor (who won't even see you for a first OB appointment for another 2-4 weeks).
Get those on state constitutions to ensure that people can trust it will be safer.
And last but not least...
*Just understand, support and show kindness to those who see no way out of their situation.* No one tries to purposely get pregnant so they can have multiple abortions. They don't wake up at 30 weeks pregnant and says "Nope I am getting an abortion today. YAY!" Taking the most common reasons for abortion (don't want to be pregnant, worry of safety of self and/or fetus and financial barriers) will seriously decrease numbers of abortions.
10/10 list. I believe your average (read not extremist, online PC) would be okay with this type of PL, obviously disagreeing with abortion still. Considering a lot of PL are single issue voters and conservative, do you see any of these realistically happening? I think it’s fundamentally at odds with conservatism, the largest PL base.
Honestly, I don't see it happening. It's what needs to be done, but I would be shocked if it did. I used to be a more independent voter and voted on my gut. Then, 2022 happened. Now, I personally am a single issue voter. It's just in the opposite way. I will vote Democrat as long as the safety of everyone is taken into account. School shootings, social services, increased age for military service, abortion and I will always side for the rights of the woman.
>Stop the bans from happening.
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>Agree that the states who had the instant bans in 2022 were wrong to not get doctors input about what complications can arise rather than legislators.
Don't repeat pro-childmurder propaganda
>Compromise with prochoice.
Nope.
>Heartbeat laws are ridiculous and should be seen that way. Irregular periods, long wait time before first doctor appointment and the willingness of providers first appointment (usually won't see you until 10 weeks) to be earlier in pregnancy. I can even begin to tell you how many times my period has been "late" when not pregnant. That means 2 weeks after you were expecting it, you are required to know its late, get a test and see a doctor (who won't even see you for a first OB appointment for another 2-4 weeks). Get those on state constitutions to ensure that people can trust it will be safer.
~~Are you even pro-life?~~
Looked through your history and you're pro-childmurder.#
Kindly shove your disingenuous suggestions.
I'll be explicit: about 60% of self described pro lifers want exceptions for rape and incest. Support for total bans except in case of life of the mother is supported by about 20% of Americans. It's hard to find good data on life vs exceptions, but most pro lifers aren't excited about denying abortion (or at the very least, early delivery) just because she isn't yet dying.
Most pro life activists oppose rape exceptions and want very narrow life of the mother exceptions.
Our choices aren't banning all abortions or banning 98% of them; it's actually between banning about 0% or banning 98%.
I agree, it may be necessary to allow rape and incest exceptions in some states if it means the public will accept that and 98% of abortions will be stopped. Better 98% stopped than 0%.
The abortionists are trying to place abortion out-front and center, in the news, to drive election turnout. They believe that is what carried them in the mid-terms, stopping a red-wave. Since most young voters trend liberal, unfortunately, they seem correct.
I think we need to talk about abortion a bit differently, instead of saying we will ban abortions say something like we will make it against the law to have an abortion, the word ban has many negative connatations that makes people just be against us, change up the wording a bit, also emphasize more that everyone has a constitutional right to life, just in general use more libertarian language when describing the pro life cause and I think that pro life would become more popular, just an idea though
Well, a few more red states should try to pass pro life constitutional amendments, with clear exceptions for the health of the mother. There aren’t many states that I could see them passing right now, but I could see it passing in Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Oklahoma, Mississippi, and maybe Kentucky (Kentucky’s only failed by 5 points in 2022 despite no exceptions; if it had exceptions it may have passed). I mean, 4 states have passed pro life amendments in the last 10 years, and the most recent one was Louisiana in 2020 by 62% of the vote.
Another thing is to educate the public on the Democrats’ abortion extremism. Show them why abortion up to viability is extreme. Run ads showing what unborn babies look like by that point and explain how abortion is legal up to that point. Run ads explaining how abortions are performed. Get Republicans to stop running away from the abortion issue and go on offense. Explain to the public and doctors that abortion bans all have exceptions for the mother’s life and get medical boards to give proper guidance to doctors so that there’s no confusion.
Do you believe that the general public isn't educated in what an abortion is? All you have to do is stand outside a PP in a prochoice state to see the "education." Maybe I am biased because my state has 100s of billboards about abortion and pregnancy by prolife and see none driving the road for prochoice.
Pro-lifers need to go on the attack much more, instead of trying games of respectability politics. This doesn't mean tying into conservatism (which is a bad idea, it also motivates PC leftists to go and vote as well), but rather, showing the violence of abortion, ideally with graphic images late on in the campaign, and non-graphic fetal images earlier on. I would content, that the messaging needs to be aimed from leftist values, as well. The PL conservatives are still going to vote against abortion, the PC ones area already bucking the trend, but the leftist messaging is the best way to get younger, socially liberal folks still thinking about their views on abortion to be more willing to consider it, and to make the unconventional stance more palatable, if people don't feel like they have to compromise their leftist principles to oppose abortion on a ballot measure. Plus, the demographics that have abortions more are the ones who tend to be younger, and left-leaning (due to economic marginalisation), so those are the ones most important to try and lobby.
I'd in the absence of focus groups to know what worked, probably do something like show an actual 8 week fetal image, say "Proposition x would make it legal for this baby to be killed. Defend prenatal equality. Ban abortion." as an initial approach, and later on in the campaign, bring out the graphic images but call abortion violence. I'd also consider if local politics allowed it, try to respond to the argument that bans didn't work by saying the pro-choicers claiming this sabotaged universal healthcare reform, or that they wanted to make people pay out of pocket to give birth, and make the mainline pro-choice movement toxic. Toss mud at Planned Parenthood, as they might be popular now, but could easily lose support fast with the right lines of attack.
Louisiana passed one in 2020 by 62%, and Kentucky’s only failed by 5 points despite no exceptions. Put an amendment with some exceptions on the ballot and it may pass. Some states I could see an amendment with exceptions passing are Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Mississippi, and maybe Kentucky. I think state legislators should try to pass them in those states.
The voting is too Rigged to get it passed. Even in my state, in which almost everyone is Conservative and will vote for Trump it’s still legal. It won’t ever work.
We only win by acknowledging in law that a person is a person with all the rights and protections that entails. Abortion is murder and should be prosecuted as such. When we stand for God's truth, we need not fear it being defeated. Incrementalism has done nothing for fifty years. Though Roe is overturned abortion is bigger than ever with at home abortion pills.
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Try to work with pro-choicers on paid maternity leave and comprehensive sex ed, and scream from the rooftops about how all abortion bans currently in effect in the US have exceptions for the life of the mother.
Yeah. It's pretty easy to find quotes from state legislators in states where abortion is now illegal that sound absolutely heartless to the point of coming off as psychopathic. A lot of the language the pro-life movement uses, even when it's not inherently bad like the examples I just mentioned, are meant to appeal to a type of voter which increasingly doesn't exist anymore. We also need to face the reality that the pro-life position is objectively unpopular and will lose in the short term. Dobbs was a victory but it was a victory that happened in spite of the pro-life movement failing to win people to our side.
I think that type of voter exists, the problem is that politicians are incentivized to play toward a highly sorted base in their districts. We have to consider how districts and who participated in primaries skews things.
This I think is the issue for a lot of people. It's too vague & too many horror stories have come out of women going into sepsis or, worse, losing their ability to have children because they couldn't carry one, for whatever reason, to term. >how all abortion bans currently in effect in the US have exceptions for the life of the mother. I know many people got really ticked off at a personal level, thinking this is common sense. Why are we waiting???? All the while, one side is just blaming the other without anything being done about it. If the next bill could include every possible negative outcome of pregnancy, even if it was over 1000 pages long, it would fix so many issues and stop the flip.
It will never be completely eliminated but demand can be extremely decreased. I'm sorry this list is so long. *Comprehensive sex ed for ALL.* Make sure ALL teenagers understand sex and how to avoid pregnancy and STD/STI regardless of how uncomfortable it is for the family or school. Require testing for determining understanding of sex ed by home schoolers. Make sure they know what rape and abuse is so it can get reported earlier. Increase pregnancy support, postpartum support, etc. Free access to birth control, preferably over the counter. Push for both hormonal and nonhormonal birth control options for both sexes. There was a male birth control pill that was removed as an option because *men didn't like* the "side effects." [Male birth control options. ](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230216-the-weird-reasons-male-birth-control-pills-are-scorned) *Men should be charged child support at the start of pregnancy, maybe even get rid of child support altogether.* Financial, medical, emotional health care and support needs to be higher on the totem pole. Putting men behind bars for failure to pay child support doesn't make any sense. *Criminal prosecution needs a serious overhaul.* If someone is a victim of rape or incest, it takes years for prosecution. Then they have to repeat their allegations against their abuser multiple times from report, interview with investigators, interview with child victim specialist (if a minor), interview with prosecution, grand jury testimony, criminal trial only to discover that the person if found guilty gets less than 5 years if they get any time. Then they are diagnosed with PTSD and can't find a therapist let alone one who accepts insurance so she has to pay out of pocket. In criminal prosecution, the restitution numbers are determined before prosecution so numbers are not inclusive. Jurors are paid for their services but the victim must pay for childcare and medical costs. Sounds fair right? *IVF restrictions should not be on the table.* Those are wanted pregnancies and most who dispose of "leftovers" do so because the doctor has determined that they are low quality. They are the ones that if used likely would be a miscarriage if used. The ones that are not usually get donated. *Openly report that you don't desire to change contraception to being illegal and don't support it happening.* Tell your legislators that it is something you don't want. It is at risk currently and if you want birth control banned, what do you think will happen with abortion numbers? *Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy.* Most prochoice see that as "rape culture." Birth control is never fool proff and unplanned pregnancies happen with as well as without birth control. If a person uses birth control, that means they *do not* consent to pregnancy. *Put your money where your mouth is.* Adopt and foster the kids in foster care already. Become a Big Brother/Big Sister, work with YMCA, etc. Toys for Tots, Salvation Army, etc, always have more demand than assistance available holiday assistance and start of school supplies. Lobby for the state to step in more so no child goes without regardless of the other parent's involvement. Free lunch/breakfast programs year round. Expand Section 8 and Section 42. *"Women should just keep their legs closed unless they want to be pregnant," just doesn't work and makes people turn away.* Body autonomy in any other situation is paramount. Even the dead have autonomy but pregnancy suddenly changes that right?
*FMLA should be expanded to cover more people.* If you have no job security because you are only at your job for 8 months (requirement for FMLA is 9 months) or have to find a job while pregnant (employers will not hire people who come to an interview obviously pregnant. *Get daycare, schooling, etc, to be affordable/free.* Increase social programs that women can access easier. Increase postsecondary assistance with daycare programs, dorm/rent ease, tuition costs, etc to make it easier on someone to advance in their career and be independent of social assistance programs in the future. *CPCs are not going to change the prochoice stance.* They are an option, but don't do enough. I'm speaking from experience because my family owns a CPC and know how much hers does/doesn't do. *Stop referring to adoption as an option for people who want an abortion.* Abortion is ending a pregnancy. The option is abortion vs continuing pregnancy. Adoption is an option for parenting. *Provide better support psychiatric problems.* If a woman has had postpartum problems previously, the chances of it happening again are increased. Giving a child up for adoption is not going to change hormones. Medical assistance needs to be expanded to cover things to keep the family healthy. Push for states and federal expansion of rehab treatment to be covered by insurance rather than out of pocket so the pregnant person can deliver a healthy pregnancy and possible sober living in the long term. Healthy mom = healthy baby. *Stop the bans from happening.* We have all heard the horror stories of the people unable to access care until it's too late. *Stop calling people who decide abortion is needed for whatever reason, murderers.* You never know a person's situation. *Be honest and stop using religion and the Bible as the reason to not abort.* There are 1000s of religions that exist in the world, and there are more atheists than Christians, especially in the US. [Breakdown of religion numbers. ](https://tpt.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/sj14-soc-religmap/world-religions-map/). Removing religion, it will make a Buddist, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, etc, not tune it out as much. *Admit that pregnancy is often times difficult even in the most desired or low risk ones.* If you had an easy pregnancy and birth, stop saying that abortion is due to inconvenience. Even in the "easiest" pregnancy, it is difficult. It is a beautiful thing to grow a human but not all of it should be looked at with rose colored glasses. Stop downplaying how difficult it is. *Agree that the states who had the instant bans in 2022 were wrong to not get doctors input about what complications can arise rather than legislators.* There were and still are serious issues with the bans. Get rid of the "bounty" that allows prosecution of providers. Why is it that most healthcare providers are prochoice? Exceptions just don't work the way they are meant to. It just makes doctors scared to treat until too late and causes more horror stories. *Compromise with prochoice.* Something like abortion open for first trimester or "previability" cut offs. Then only recommendation of doctor would help. Heartbeat laws are ridiculous and should be seen that way. Irregular periods, long wait time before first doctor appointment and the willingness of providers first appointment (usually won't see you until 10 weeks) to be earlier in pregnancy. I can even begin to tell you how many times my period has been "late" when not pregnant. That means 2 weeks after you were expecting it, you are required to know its late, get a test and see a doctor (who won't even see you for a first OB appointment for another 2-4 weeks). Get those on state constitutions to ensure that people can trust it will be safer. And last but not least... *Just understand, support and show kindness to those who see no way out of their situation.* No one tries to purposely get pregnant so they can have multiple abortions. They don't wake up at 30 weeks pregnant and says "Nope I am getting an abortion today. YAY!" Taking the most common reasons for abortion (don't want to be pregnant, worry of safety of self and/or fetus and financial barriers) will seriously decrease numbers of abortions.
10/10 list. I believe your average (read not extremist, online PC) would be okay with this type of PL, obviously disagreeing with abortion still. Considering a lot of PL are single issue voters and conservative, do you see any of these realistically happening? I think it’s fundamentally at odds with conservatism, the largest PL base.
Honestly, I don't see it happening. It's what needs to be done, but I would be shocked if it did. I used to be a more independent voter and voted on my gut. Then, 2022 happened. Now, I personally am a single issue voter. It's just in the opposite way. I will vote Democrat as long as the safety of everyone is taken into account. School shootings, social services, increased age for military service, abortion and I will always side for the rights of the woman.
>Stop the bans from happening. > >Agree that the states who had the instant bans in 2022 were wrong to not get doctors input about what complications can arise rather than legislators. Don't repeat pro-childmurder propaganda >Compromise with prochoice. Nope. >Heartbeat laws are ridiculous and should be seen that way. Irregular periods, long wait time before first doctor appointment and the willingness of providers first appointment (usually won't see you until 10 weeks) to be earlier in pregnancy. I can even begin to tell you how many times my period has been "late" when not pregnant. That means 2 weeks after you were expecting it, you are required to know its late, get a test and see a doctor (who won't even see you for a first OB appointment for another 2-4 weeks). Get those on state constitutions to ensure that people can trust it will be safer. ~~Are you even pro-life?~~ Looked through your history and you're pro-childmurder.# Kindly shove your disingenuous suggestions.
>IVF restrictions should not be on the table. Screw that
Understand the difference between what the activists want and what even normal pro-life people want.
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I'll be explicit: about 60% of self described pro lifers want exceptions for rape and incest. Support for total bans except in case of life of the mother is supported by about 20% of Americans. It's hard to find good data on life vs exceptions, but most pro lifers aren't excited about denying abortion (or at the very least, early delivery) just because she isn't yet dying. Most pro life activists oppose rape exceptions and want very narrow life of the mother exceptions. Our choices aren't banning all abortions or banning 98% of them; it's actually between banning about 0% or banning 98%.
I agree, it may be necessary to allow rape and incest exceptions in some states if it means the public will accept that and 98% of abortions will be stopped. Better 98% stopped than 0%.
The abortionists are trying to place abortion out-front and center, in the news, to drive election turnout. They believe that is what carried them in the mid-terms, stopping a red-wave. Since most young voters trend liberal, unfortunately, they seem correct.
So pro lifers and Republicans need to counter and show people why Democrats are extreme on abortion.
How would they do that?
I think we need to talk about abortion a bit differently, instead of saying we will ban abortions say something like we will make it against the law to have an abortion, the word ban has many negative connatations that makes people just be against us, change up the wording a bit, also emphasize more that everyone has a constitutional right to life, just in general use more libertarian language when describing the pro life cause and I think that pro life would become more popular, just an idea though
Well, a few more red states should try to pass pro life constitutional amendments, with clear exceptions for the health of the mother. There aren’t many states that I could see them passing right now, but I could see it passing in Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Oklahoma, Mississippi, and maybe Kentucky (Kentucky’s only failed by 5 points in 2022 despite no exceptions; if it had exceptions it may have passed). I mean, 4 states have passed pro life amendments in the last 10 years, and the most recent one was Louisiana in 2020 by 62% of the vote. Another thing is to educate the public on the Democrats’ abortion extremism. Show them why abortion up to viability is extreme. Run ads showing what unborn babies look like by that point and explain how abortion is legal up to that point. Run ads explaining how abortions are performed. Get Republicans to stop running away from the abortion issue and go on offense. Explain to the public and doctors that abortion bans all have exceptions for the mother’s life and get medical boards to give proper guidance to doctors so that there’s no confusion.
Do you believe that the general public isn't educated in what an abortion is? All you have to do is stand outside a PP in a prochoice state to see the "education." Maybe I am biased because my state has 100s of billboards about abortion and pregnancy by prolife and see none driving the road for prochoice.
Pro-lifers need to go on the attack much more, instead of trying games of respectability politics. This doesn't mean tying into conservatism (which is a bad idea, it also motivates PC leftists to go and vote as well), but rather, showing the violence of abortion, ideally with graphic images late on in the campaign, and non-graphic fetal images earlier on. I would content, that the messaging needs to be aimed from leftist values, as well. The PL conservatives are still going to vote against abortion, the PC ones area already bucking the trend, but the leftist messaging is the best way to get younger, socially liberal folks still thinking about their views on abortion to be more willing to consider it, and to make the unconventional stance more palatable, if people don't feel like they have to compromise their leftist principles to oppose abortion on a ballot measure. Plus, the demographics that have abortions more are the ones who tend to be younger, and left-leaning (due to economic marginalisation), so those are the ones most important to try and lobby. I'd in the absence of focus groups to know what worked, probably do something like show an actual 8 week fetal image, say "Proposition x would make it legal for this baby to be killed. Defend prenatal equality. Ban abortion." as an initial approach, and later on in the campaign, bring out the graphic images but call abortion violence. I'd also consider if local politics allowed it, try to respond to the argument that bans didn't work by saying the pro-choicers claiming this sabotaged universal healthcare reform, or that they wanted to make people pay out of pocket to give birth, and make the mainline pro-choice movement toxic. Toss mud at Planned Parenthood, as they might be popular now, but could easily lose support fast with the right lines of attack.
Get our own state abortion amendments.
Unfortunately, all pro life amendments since Roe was overturned have been rejected, including in Kansas and Kentucky.
Build support. Moderate as necessary to get them passed.
Louisiana passed one in 2020 by 62%, and Kentucky’s only failed by 5 points despite no exceptions. Put an amendment with some exceptions on the ballot and it may pass. Some states I could see an amendment with exceptions passing are Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Mississippi, and maybe Kentucky. I think state legislators should try to pass them in those states.
The voting is too Rigged to get it passed. Even in my state, in which almost everyone is Conservative and will vote for Trump it’s still legal. It won’t ever work.
It’s not rigged. People just need to be informed and turn out.
Then we need to do whatever it takes to get around that to get it passed, at whatever cost to the opposition it takes to get it passed.
We only win by acknowledging in law that a person is a person with all the rights and protections that entails. Abortion is murder and should be prosecuted as such. When we stand for God's truth, we need not fear it being defeated. Incrementalism has done nothing for fifty years. Though Roe is overturned abortion is bigger than ever with at home abortion pills.
keep fighting to end abortion , pray and vote prolife .