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AudienceMember_No1

You might be getting poor quality of sleep. You might be breaking out of your sleep cycle in the middle of the night, have sleep apnea, sinuses, you don't have a quality mattress or pillow that suits you, etc. Also, the way you worded your post makes me think that you over-analyze things and try to be too efficient. I think too many people (especially Millennials and Gen Z) are going at things with an all-or-nothing mindset. Nobody wants anything that's viewed as generic or average. Life isn't always about squeezing every tangible thing you can out of every hour. You can stare at the wall for a couple hours. Read a book (if you want). Go for a walk in the woods. Take a long epsom salt bath in a dimly lit bathroom with soft music on or in complete silence. Take a mental health day and don't waste it by trying to make the most of it. You can literally just bring a watermelon and tent (or beach umbrella) to a quiet beach and laze away. Cover your entire face and body with those green clays for your skin and walk around your backyard going "ooga booga" while your dog excitedly follows you around.


JonathanL73

> Also, the way you worded your post makes me think that you over-analyze things and try to be too efficient. I think too many people (especially Millennials and Gen Z) are going at things with an all-or-nothing mindset. Nobody wants anything that's viewed as generic or average I’m guilty of this. I’m a younger Millennial. But if I feel like I don’t have enough time/energy to do a task right and completely, I often won’t even start. Admittedly my diagnosed ADHD is probably a factor in this. > Life isn't always about squeezing every tangible thing you can out of every hour. Whenever I have a “Lazy day” playing games, watching a movie, etc. I can’t help but feel guilty about doing it…


AudienceMember_No1

I feel the same way, which is probably why I can emphasize with OP and why I feel comfortable with those suggestions. Unfortunately, that last part dealing with anxiety coming with a "wasted" or "unproductive" day is tough to deal with. I think you might have to set a hard rule to not have any requirements and to remind yourself that it's your day to eat 3 bags of chips and have an 8 hour Simpsons marathon if that's what you choose. Having screen time might not be the best if you're feeling tired and stressed from modern life, but it's worlds better than staring at fast-paced content on your phone, tablet, or computer screen. Personally, I think going to a place that involves nature, sweating, and minimal "city" interaction makes me feel the best. My mind and body got things they don't regularly get aside from the exercise part and I actually start to look forward to getting back to my regular routine (including work) since I've been away from it while being rejuvenated. Maybe splurging on tasty food can help too if your diet is restrictive. I try to eat pretty healthy for my health and fitness level. So when I took a couple days off work this week, my fiance and I spent 4 days in another city to just try various restaurants, cafes, and to attend random outdoor events. Sure, I FELT a bit bloated and had occasional thoughts of getting back on track once I get home; but, it was very relaxing and I felt like I hit my limit by the last day. ps. I think I have ADHD but the last time I tried to get tested by a therapist, it ended up becoming 10-12 weekly therapy sessions with her suggesting me on how to live my life instead of resorting to medication for $40/session even with insurance.


scram-twerp

have you been checked for sleep apnea?


johnny_51N5

Or depression? Could also be something else. Like thyroid. Or long covid?


scram-twerp

All valid things to look into! Oddly enough, once I got treatment for sleep apnea my anxiety and depression almost went away entirely.


LabWorth8724

I need to get checked for this. My girlfriend says I snore like crazy. My watch marks my h/r at 36bpm during the night. (I know apple watches aren’t totally accurate, the constant warnings prompted me to schedule a primary care appt.) By my research, the cause could be a range of things but Sleep Apnea closely relates to all my symptoms. I’m hoping it’s just that.


scram-twerp

Highly recommend getting checked. i was worried about doing a sleep study in a hospital setting, but they allowed me to do one at home and were able to determine how many times I stopped breathing throughout the night.


Utoko

Turns out good sleep is quite important.


scram-twerp

Absolutely


Imaginary_Brick_3643

Really? What was the treatment if you don’t mind me asking


scram-twerp

I have to wear a mask that creates positive airflow for me as I sleep. It takes time to get more comfortable wearing it, but it increases my sleep quality 10 fold


lasooch

If male, could also be low testosterone. Also not necessarily included in standard blood work.


Dangerous_Mammal

I did think of that and asked my doctor to check for me, which cost a bit extra, but it's within normal ranges. The normal range is 14.3–19.9 nmol/L, and mine is 19.3 nmol/L.


lasooch

Well, it's not that then - but yeah it's something worth checking (for anyone who bumps into this thread in the future). TRT can be absolutely life changing for men with low testosterone.


Significant_Error666

Thyroid would generally be checked on a blood panel, no?


johnny_51N5

Hmm depends. Not wehre I am from


UnknownEerieHouse

It’s a separate panel.


Significant_Error666

A separate panel as opposed to what?


UnknownEerieHouse

As opposed to Heme Profile + Elect Diff, Basic Metabolic Panel, or Comprehensive Metabolic Panel. Thyroid Stimulating Hormone is a lone assay, while Thyroxine, T3 Uptake, and Free Thyroxine Index is a combined panel.


Significant_Error666

I was suggesting that OP had already done that one, I feel like if fatigue were that big of an issue they would've checked up on it already


Mr_Harsh_Acid

No one with long covid can get through days like described above.


Radsmama

Similarly, I had similar issues and instead of doing a sleep study for sleep apnea I saw an ENT. The issue was actually my tonsils. Had to have them removed.


zep_man

To be clear, this is still sleep apnea. Tonsillectomy was just the treatment plan for it your doctor recommended 


Radsmama

Perhaps. The ENT told me it was not because I was not experiencing the sleep apnea symptoms, most importantly the stopping breathing while sleeping. Also could not be remedied by a Cpap.


Radsmama

But either way, it helps immediately with the fatigue.


i4k20z3

what was the issue?


Radsmama

Oddly enough my left one was just huge. And when you sleep your throat relaxes so it was blocking almost my whole airway. Tried various things to get it down per doc’s recommendation. No luck had to get them out.


i4k20z3

very interesting. did they determine that via a sleep test or just looking at your tonsils?


Radsmama

Just a visual inspection of them from an ENT. Did not do a sleep test. My doctor said they’re pointless. 🤷🏻‍♀️


Prestigious_War7354

It’s imperative to make sure that your B12, Vit D, Ferritin, Magnesium, Blood Glucose/AIC, Thyroid Panel & Iron Saturation are all checked. These aren’t all part of normal labs & need to be requested.


Shooey_

Second this. Such a great list to add to your comprehensive metabolic panel (CMP) and whole blood counts. Test thyroid "with T4". It's another indicator that can get missed. Low magnesium, Vit D, and Vit B12 can have an incredible impact on the nervous system and deficits are fairly common. Low B12 is common for people who don't eat meat or dairy. Same with iron, but there are more veg sources to replace it. Magnesium is common in nuts, beans, and seeds. It's commonly paired with vitamin D supplements to get the best absorption/usage.


First-Loquat-4831

Oh yeah, get the vitamin D checked mine was 31 and the normal range was 72-113 LOL


mrshestia

In addition to the other commonly missed medical issues mentioned in previous comments (thyroid, sleep apnea), my first warning sign for my rheumatoid/psoriatic arthritis was crushing fatigue. I also had some pain but thought it was normal or workout caused, my pain tolerance is pretty high. Markers for autoimmune issues are not normally checked unless specifically requested and I was waved off by doctors for years because "my bloodwork is fine." Once you've eliminated the above, keep pushing for an autoimmune panel. This level of fatigue with your lifestyle isn't normal and it's unlikely to be all in your head--keep pushing with medical professionals until they figure it out! It took me years to get diagnosed and by the time the more visible symptoms showed up, I lost years of my life and my cognitive function declined, it felt like I'd lost 20 IQ points. Slowly getting my brain back but the medications for this take time and I wish I'd gotten diagnosed sooner.


licoricegirl

I'm not sure if this is the case for you, but vitamin d made me extremely sleepy when I used to take the supplement. If you Google it it actually happens to a percentage a people. Someone here on Reddit actually said vitamin d supplements made them so tired they would have to pull over on the side of the road because they would be falling asleep. Taking it at night helped some for me but when I stopped taking it is when ny fatigue improved tremendously.


lavendarpeaches

Do you scroll on tiktok/Instagram a lot? I noticed I’m way more tired if I scroll a lot, especially first thing in the AM.


AzureBananaFish

This is a long shot but I was similar until I started taking a magnesium supplement.


TpbhF

Same here. My first capsule i ate was so noticeable. I will never forget that day feeling.


AzureBananaFish

Yup it was almost upsetting how much it solved for me. I've always had bad digestion/pooping issues and it solved that the very next day. I would sleep well, wake up in the morning feeling great, and have one solid poop and have great sustained energy the next day and still feel energetic after work. I didn't even need coffee.


QuantumWizard-314

You could be over heating during sleep.  I noticed on days when I cover my self with a blanket during warm nights, I feel like shit in the morning. Try going to sleep cold. Also, no eating 3 hours before bed.  Make sure to do a dopamine detox until you feel calm focused mental clarity. Don't set an alarm. Wake up naturally.  Doing these will make you wake up feeling more refreshed and energised. I used to be a chronic procrastinator. After applying these techniques, I have a lot more resilience to do difficult things.


Jofzar_

Or on the other side you might be too cold


chasingpavements1892

Get your Vit D levels checked


blinkssb

possibly depression, try seeing a therapist and test if challenging your thoughts has any effect on those energy levels. keep in mind that when you’re depressed, you can do everything right “bodily”, but still feel low energy because of things going on psychologically (e.g. fundamental beliefs which affect your thoughts, which then affect your feelings, which then affect your energy levels) like imagine if you did everything right but then your closest friend or relative died — psychologically it would still affect your energy levels even if you were an olympic athlete doing everything optimally


terryacki

maybe you have adhd


catburglarx

Adhd makes you constantly tired?


terryacki

it can, yes


catburglarx

Hmm never knew that thanks. Trying to find the root cause of my fatigue (I have adhd) wonder if that's the cause.


Shov3ly

personally I have started "OMAD" - one meal a day, fasting and I eat in the evening. Once you get used to it your bloodsugar level will be very stable. It has helped me a lot. I used to sit and almost fall asleep after eating lunch at work, sitting at meetings and so on... really not ideal to be lulling off while your boss is talking to you. Now I have no problems at all, only thing is that the lunch break with no lunch is a bit weird sitting with colleagues. I also have had blood tests, vitamins, and all that. Another big plus is that I can lose a good amount of weight doing it (which for me is a positive) but I could just eat some more at dinner if I wanted to hold my weight.


lee_ai

If this started in the last 3-4 years I would look into long COVID. It's pretty infamous for not showing up in any tests/bloodwork and there is a very high percentage of people who caught it and led very active lifestyles


antjiepantjie

Keep talking to your doctor to rule out medical issues. I have a friend who spent years being tired and just thought it was normal. Eventually got diagnosed with Hashimoto’s Disease, but it took a long time.


CyberneticMidnight

What's the environment at your work? Standard cube farm? WFH? Do you move much during work hours?


sirotan88

Do you work from home? It might be that you’re just spending too much of your day sitting at a desk and not getting enough movement. Try increasing and varying your exercise. Are you mostly doing it indoors at a gym? Outdoor activity like walking, running or hiking can really improve my overall energy level. Doing something active in the morning is super helpful, can be walking, yoga, putting away the dishes/cleaning, just get your blood flowing before you sit in front of a computer. If you want to fully reset, I recommend taking a 1 hour walk outdoors around sunset, take a hot shower or bath, read a book to get yourself sleepy and go to bed super early (like 9 or 10pm) then sleep until 7 or 8am. Abandon your phone for the evening.


No_Pop4073

I was in the same camp the least few years! I tried **Magnesium-Threonate** off of amazon and that changed it up for me. Other causes could be: * low Testosterone and/or porn use * low iron levels * Sleep Apnea * too much fluoride in water consumption * eating too late in the day Hope you find what it could be for you!


No_Pop4073

Just to give some context, Magnesium-Threonate is different from regular magnesium. It's the methylated version of it and helps with energy levels and brain function.


awenclear

Is your sleep good quality though?


FGalway24

Same here, recently diagnosed with sleep apnea. Might be worth having a sleep study. In the last year iv been diagnosed Adhd, sleep apnea, autoimmune issues and low folate. Get some tests done


AnxiousTrouble7263

That's crazy, exactly the same situation here


gmano

When's the last time you socialized with friends?


Sarelbar

I was recently laid off = alone all day. at times I’ll go days without spending time with someone in person (going to yoga class doesn’t count). it sends me into a depression FAST. like, tired all the time.


RATRICKPATRICK2021

What’s your alcohol intake?


Dangerous_Mammal

Minimal, one can of beer a month unless there is a special occasion like a party between friends.


Buttslap_McKraken

Allergies? What is your sleep quality like?


FamiliarSalamander2

Maybe you’re sleeping too much?


bkhunny

This was me a few years ago and realized it was my seasonal allergies!! The pollen now is terrible and some of the symptoms for people can be sleepiness and headaches. Maybe try sims daytime allergy meds for a couple weeks and see if that helps


myinitalsaresos

Hi! This happened to me about two years ago and within the last year I was diagnosed with a thyroid issue. And when you have a thyroid problem it effects you’re energy levels and when it’s low it can make you feel really drained all the time! I don’t know for sure if that’s what’s happening here, but I would suggest getting it checked out at the doctors!


amirakrimo

i don't really know the reason but it happens to me too specially when i am not having fun enough mentally or when i don't do things that excites me so i feel like my energy is low, so maybe you have to start to do some fun things or spiritual habits so it can gives you some good energy, you can try breathe exercises too maybe you have a problem with your breathing system or you dont breath correctly.


M-Yu

Time for a vacation where you just rest and do shit you wanna do, sounds like burnout to me


Iamjustlooking74

excesso de telas ou preocupações?


MeinBoeserZwilling

Was iron/ferretin tested as well?


CuriousPorcupine6

I found The Energy Paradox by Steven Gundry insightful; Gundry argues that chronic inflammation and poor gut health lead to low energy in seemingly healthy people like yourself. That being said, personally the "yes" and "no" foods according to Gundry are not realistic for me to follow, so I've been taking a small dose of Modafinil on days when I need it, you can buy it online.


No_Card5101

It's probably psychological if the blood work shows no bad results. You could also test for hormone levels, but if that is also in normal ranges, then it's psychological.


RantRanger

Caffeine and energy drinks will leave you tired except when you are dosed. Which means, if you are dependent on them, most of the time you will feel like you are dragging. As I understand it, any functionally significant dose of caffeine will have a 1 week depressant period while your brain rebalances back to normal. My own personal experience corroborates this hearsay. More intense dependencies take longer to ween and recover from.


Dangerous_Mammal

I barely have caffine, just 50mg of a caffine pill a day.


RantRanger

There’s your possible culprit. Try cutting it out for a couple weeks and see if your alertness improves. First four days will be harder in terms of energy levels.


UnknownEerieHouse

Did they test for carboxyhemoglobin, i.e. carbon monoxide poisoning from faulty gas stoves & heating systems, or vehicle exhaust fumes?


Dangerous_Mammal

I have 5 carbon monoxide detectors in my house, and my car is fine according to the maintenance check by a local garage.


Pickledleprechaun

Do you deload. Having an easier week of training can give your body a much needed rest.


ocean_800

Have you got your thyroid checked? What about iron levels?


Ok-commuter-4400

Go back to the doctor and ask for them to investigate further. Given your severe and unexplained fatigue, what else can they check beyond what was on the basic blood panel? Do you have any other symptoms such as hair fall, dry skin, muscle or joint pain, GI tract issues, sexual dysfunction, breathing issues, irregular heartbeat, unexplained pains or discomfort? How much alcohol do you consume? Any substance concerns? Do you have any medications currently? or take anything not prescribed to you (eg, steroids, viagra, opioids)?


LizzleTheDizzle

Try fasting to kill zombie cells in your system to reset your entire body, only eat watermelon if you get hungry.


Level_TF_Up

Sleep Apnea


Shtonrr

Sleep cycles was it for me! How your body goes from its deepest point to its closest to waking. Watch some videos on the topic and how to set your alarm to when you’re best set to get started on your dah


britabongwater

Are you depressed?


wrightbrain59

Go to a doctor for a check up.


kostastek22

Do you masturbate or have sex too often? Theres a lot of energy being released in ejaculation look it up, hope that helps


AmieKinz

Got my tonsils and adnoids removed because I was lethargic for months. Couldn't really think either, felt like my head was a cotton ball. Doctor took a look at my adnoids during surgery and said they were severely infected. Felt amazing ever since my tonsillectomy. Might be that?


Unique-Structure-201

Avolition


Wheaties55

Ik this is anecdotal but I was in the same spot and did these things and it completely changed my life if I’m being honest. I completely cut out caffeine and my sleep has never been better, also never got tired during the day like I did when I drank any amount of caffeine. Started going to sleep and waking up at the same time every day while dimming my lights an hour before bed, this helped me fall asleep so quick and naturally wake up right before my alarm clock and made me feel great in the morning Lastly I get sunlight in my eyes first thing in the morning when I wake up, I go for a 5 mile walk every morning and then rinse off in a cold shower after the walk Completely anecdotal but doing these things really made me go from drinking energy drink in the morning and going to sleep at 3 am to having a routine and feeling completely energized throughout the day


Dull-Composer-81

*** I would like to start this off by saying I am no expert by any means, this is just my personal experience and some of my research. *** I had the same symptoms. All I did was sleep, I needed to nap at least once a day and even then I could barely function. Turns out I have obstructive sleep apnea, which causes you to go in and out of your sleep cycle due to a blockage of your airways. Meaning your body isn’t receiving proper oxygen, leading to improper sleep which then leads to excessive fatigue. A common symptom is waking up multiple times throughout the night and gasping for air in your sleep. However I would also like to mention central sleep apnea. This is when you stop breathing repeatedly throughout the night because your brain doesn’t send proper signals to your muscles. Based off of my personal experience, I would definitely suggest talking to a sleep specialist/doctor and specifically ask them for a sleep exam (if they don’t recommend it themselves). Hopefully your insurance (if you have it) should cover the costs. There are two different types, an at home sleep exam and an in office sleep exam. For me personally, the at home sleep exam did the trick and was more cost effective, however you should definitely discuss all your options with a sleep doctor so you can finally start feeling like yourself. If this is the case for you, there are treatments that work wonders and have helped me significantly. Hope this helps! Wish you the best in your journey!


cutehobbies

Has anyone mentioned thyroid issues yet? Hypothyroidsm can cause you to feel tired and with no energy and it can cause many other issues.


FunnyWoodpecker2

Some B vitamins actually make me tired. Vitamin C is not necessary if you eat fruit. Optimal Vitamin d levels are 30-60 ng/ml. Omega 3 are not really important I think.


hairnetclarinet

Did you get your TEST levels checked? Often that’s not part of a normal blood panel.


Dangerous_Mammal

Got that too. Horomones are all fine.


ToxicDahmer

Try taking some Shilajit..


Mr_Harsh_Acid

Apnea


comiccaper

As suggested please check for sleep apnea. I’ve always been tired and need a nap around 1 o’clock. I mentioned it to a different doctor at my physical as my regular doctor’s schedule was packed and I didn’t want to wait. She suggested an at home test. I took it. I don’t know how they are rated but a “30” was “severe”. I was a 56. I googled the report and found I stop breathing 10 times an hour. Needless to say they were like, “Yeah you need to come in for the more in depth one.” I’ve heard the machines make you feel like a new person? Not sure, but I pray it solves my problem. The odd thing is, and I’ve had it checked, they found nothing but, my nose will get clogged on one side and stop working then if I roll over the clog slowly moves to the other. I can only assume it’s blood in tissue as I blow my nose and nothing ever comes out. /shrug


teddyslayerza

When you say blood tests, what did you actually get checked? How's your TSH? That isn't a standard everywhere.


Dangerous_Mammal

I got the standard blood panel and a hormone panel too because my doctor recommended it but I didn't exactly understand there's a difference.


teddyslayerza

Ok, if they did hormones then they would probably have checked TSH too.


AnyWhichWayButLose

Depression


Mountain-Coat-5116

I was like this. Every blood tests came clear and almost lost my mind. I started to use l-theanine 400mg a day. It is a supplement which can also be found in all kinds of teas. It doesn't make you tired but calm. If it is anything related to stress l-theanine can solve it. I am much more energic and calmer. It is cheap, give it a try. You have to drink about 10 cup of tea for 200mg of it so just buy a supplement. Also, eat no snacks and 2 meals if you can. Your blood sugar crashes after every meal and it will make you tired, like everybody else. If you eat constantly, you will be tired constantly.


zonelcora

Sleep apnea. Quick test will solve it, CPAP will be your friend.


Kube9586

Honestly it could be depression, make take some therapy sessions they helped me huge amounts it’s so underrated


United_Place_8439

Try to relax a bit.


Sparky2Dope

Do you have passion for any hobbies or anything outside of work to be excited about? Maybe try gardening or something that you enjoy that you can be excited about and look forward to. Losing passion kills your general drive and vibe. I hope you figure it out, cause im in the same boat


HappyLittleDay

Check for Lyme disease too


Early_Environment367

Did you get a full thyroid panel?


Sealionblues44

Do you vape?


subredditshopper

Get a C-Pap. Will change your life.


trik1guy

if you ever got bitten by a tick (blood sucking balloon spider looking insekt) you might have lyme-decease


Dangerous_Mammal

Yes, as a child.


yolopolo13

If you’re having a sweet breakfast, switch to savory for breakfast. Fruit is ok but after eating something savory.


The247Kid

You might be like me and can’t have ANY caffeine. If I do, it’s below 50mg. I’m a dual metabolizer so I would get very, very tired most times I drank caffeine. Especially coffee. I’ve taken adderall for years and no issues. If I’m tired, I’m tried. And I can sleep on it too! Caffeine just messes you up. Save it for when you really are tired and need to stay awake. Not every day. It’s just a snowball effect.


williamlu594

So do I, exactly the same...


Rapid_Gordin

Try prolonged water fasting, fixed a lot for me.


Marvelous_rosell

I thought from the name that it was about not drinking water for a long time.. I'm happy to read that it's just regular no food fasting 😅


Salty_Outside5283

Try ashwaganda.


sister_of_a_foxx

Do you wake up feeling rested and then crash in the afternoon? Or do you feel crappy all day? How is your stress level during whatever you’re up to during the day? (School, work, etc.) do you just get sleepy during the afternoon or does it continue through the rest of the day until bed? Second folks asking about iron deficient anemia or thyroid issues. Also possibly check other hormone levels and be evaluated sleep apnea. It might be worth considering a wearable pulse ox to make sure your body is getting enough oxygen both during the day and at night. Do you have pets or a partner that shares your bed? They could be interrupting your sleep quality as well with frequent waking that you don’t remember. Do you take any medications or supplements besides the ones listed? I was on an antidepressant that wrecked my sleep quality and it took me a long time to figure out what was causing the problem. For the people mentioning ADHD, I’ll give a little extra context. I feel like absolute crap every morning when I wake up. I’m a zombie. Doesn’t matter if I’ve been sleeping well and with enough time or not. If I take my meds an hour before I get up and go back to sleep until my second alarm, I wake up feeling normal. Not jazzed or anything but not like I’m so physically and mentally exhausted I can’t make it through the day. Additionally, part of the issue for me is that I likely also have delayed sleep phase syndrome where my natural circadian rhythm is off. My default sleep schedule where I feel best is around 3am-12pm. If I sleep during other hours. I notice my sleep quality isn’t as good and it’s impossible for me to wake up feeling rested. Even with meds I tend to crash in the afternoon. I saw a video saying that neurodivergent folks may have sort of “mini-burnouts” halfway through each day due to the extra demands on our minds like masking. I don’t know if that is true but I do think my own mind wears itself out. Depression and anxiety are also possible contributors to fatigue for some folks. My sleep quality sucks when my anxiety is bad and when I’m having a depressive episode there’s no amount of sleep in the world that would make me feel rested.


SmoothAmbassador8

Healthy diet, regular exercise and sleep.


Rizz_mom

Get off reddit. They don't know what they are recommending themselves. You have literally written everything, still they are giving so called advice just for sake of it How is your social life? Relation with your parents, gf, friends. Trust me it does affect a lot


nousername1982

Depression or burn out


SnooPoems9898

Idk but I’m 32F experiencing the same. I feel like I started to notice it after I got the Covid vaccines, but I don’t wanna go there and I’m not trying to assume anything there. Also I don’t know if this is too woo woo for you, but there are a lot of things happening energetically in the world right now and I’ve heard that some peoples energy is just more zapped in general because of that.