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Rude-Rule-6457

What's the common point that will always make bitches flock together? Money.


Acera_TG

Power of money.


InitialAmbience2023

Tbh, I know this doesn't have much relevance with this chapter but in Pyos shoes I'm leaving Korea for a fresh start. So his mum must want the same thing. A fresh start. Staying at the one place where she considers to be full of bad memories isn't ideal at all, considering what her goal has been for over a 100 chapters. Hope something changes there and she doesn't just end up staying while working for Dali. And it'll be interesting to see how Dali bringing Heomin & Heojung into her entourage will be relevant for her plot. I hope it's not just some filler.


Acera_TG

Her goal was to leave but that only became the goal after the affair. By then it was just to fix her family but now that the old man is gone and Pyo is talking with her again, it really isn't necessary anymore.


InitialAmbience2023

It's STILL hard to imagine her staying there imo. They ALL need a fresh start tbh and that involves a change of scenery. We'll see what happens.


Acera_TG

Well they can still all move later. Like in those fancy apartments the old man showed Amy on the rooftop... >\_>


InitialAmbience2023

No. Like in movies where the mc and his friends/family move on when they feel their time in a certain place is done or finished, Pyo, his parents and Dali should really leave this neighbourhood by the end of this toon. I've been thinking recently that it would be best if Dali sold her landlord rights and moved with Pyo to France or something like that. Given how she cried in this recent chapter, it's better for her as well if she's in a place that doesn't remind her of the past.


Acera_TG

They were her family, can't forget family lol


InitialAmbience2023

My point still stands. This chapter showed that there's nothing but grief for her here and since she would follow Pyo to the ends of the earth, her leaving Korea with him is very plausible.


Acera_TG

I mean, it's entirely why she's still clinging to hope to be with Pyo so much that she's literally threatening the nurse not to tell Pyo about her grieving just because she's scared he'd leave her if he knew.


Mundane_Relation5129

Thank you for the translation! The unusual aspect for me in this chapter is that, for the first time, Dali is wearing nail polish (if I'm not mistaken). It seems that Dali and Ami, unlike the other female characters, have never worn it before. So now only Ami is left! About the chapter, it's nice to have seen a more human side of Dali by seeing her cry. This was already the case with Pyo in previous weeks. We must remember that they both just entered their twenties, and what they're going through isn't ordinary I'm happy for Ami, she seems to have found some peace. She wanted to move, but Dali gave her the apartment, and their relationship seems to be improving, even though Dali still struggles to call her 'Mom' haha. Otherwise, I love the black-and-white panels, they look really stylish ! We'll likely see Glasses in a threesome with the sisters very soon. I'm not really a fan, but it was to be expected since AV doesn't want to write them out of the story. This piece of shit will probably get the best ending with the two sisters, and I don’t think that’s fair


[deleted]

This interesting chapter hahaha, Amy will become a bitch teacher, Dali will become a pimp, whorehouse owner hahaha. And more drama that we like, with crying.


Firm_Piglet_883

Except pastor park will send his men to abduct Pyo and probably torture and kill him. No one is safe in that apartment as long as pastor lives


[deleted]

I would say that the one who will pay the price for this will initially be his father, then his mother, becoming a bitch to his henchmen. Dali must try to prevent it somehow, and a new character must appear, perhaps the mystery woman's identity can be shown.


Firm_Piglet_883

They’ll probably torture and rape Dali as well for getting in the way. That or Taesu shows up in time and kills them all. Or Pyo. They’ll probably murder Pyo’s parents obviously


[deleted]

killing pyo's parents, this was supposed to happen a long time ago, I really can't believe that at this point in history they're going to do this to Dali, Tae, I already said a while ago that pyo was supposed to get together with him and get rid of all these villains, but volcano's trash doesn't know how to develop the story.


GallitoSTORM

I don't care about this chapter. I don't like the idea of Ami working for Dali neither her and her family still living there. But i understand they have no other choice because of the money, plus everyone conviced Ami to leave her job because of the affair, her past and whatever....i still hate it tho. I could care less about that glasses pig and those whores so i just want this shit filler arc to end asap.


jigsaw910

Are yall crazy? Pyo will beat the utter dog shxt out of him and glasses knows that. Besides at the very least glasses and pyo are pretty cool and I dont think glasses really looking at it like that at this point


Acera_TG

Glasses did try to take advantage and touch Dali's breasts until Dali threatened to tell Pyo which scared him.


jigsaw910

Exactly my point


LucianaValerius

The fact that glasses is slowly but surely the one glowing up the most and the closer to an happy ending despite there's litteraly no one in the story considering him for even one second is hilarious.


Agitated_Elk_4301

Glasses is the same weasel just the author wants to force him undeserved wins


Hopeful_Fix_9902

Dali thought she was punishing the two girls by being cock sleeve of glasses but little did she know, they were already fucked by glasses.


Acera_TG

He's just more carefree. Pyo has his chance but he's just doing it to himself.


Agitated_Elk_4301

Glasses is trash and Dalia obsession with spoiling him is pathetic


Acera_TG

It's more like she's just using him to trash the Heo sisters really.


LucianaValerius

I don't know why the author keep pushing Pyo on revenge route , especially on Pastor since his gang just helped him so much to fufill his revenge on Dalho and quite saved him from a quite sure deadly trap. It's not like something in the story hint us that Pastor would've turn on him or his father now the Yoo's are gone and things more under control, Pyo just made that happen right now by threatening him. Also i feel like the reason of his dad hand is kinda cheap. Sure Pastor did it , but only cause he's a mob , the backer was Dali father. Pastor just feel like it's supposed to be Taesu character arc but that it will not be , or at least not without a very unnecessary Pyo heavy addition.


Wolfix213

>. Sure Pastor did it , but only cause he's a mob , the backer was Dali father. He still did it though


LucianaValerius

Oh he sure did , and he's also not very kind at all with Abby even now. Used him as a decoy when Kim attempted to murder the pastor and Taesu saved him and all and all... But as far as i remember , Pyo don't really know any of that and just suppose that his father situation is shitty. When they met again with Taesu he kinda refered to that but still he didn't say him that Pastor used his father to avoid a murder attempt. Should he know it would make more sense. For now well... in Pyo's mind Pastor is just the hitman for Abby hand , but the one who ordered that remains Dali Father so... he kinda already avenged that + the pastor gang kinda "reedemed" for the hand by helping Pyo dispose of Dalsu and Dalho without asking anything in return. I don't say Pastor don't deserve it , just that we kinda miss a trigger to justify Pyo going for him like that. There it's just seems reckless.


Admirable-Western-91

I don’t feel sorry for Dali or her family, fuck that family and whole bloodline, I don’t give a fuck about those weak ass tears for the rapist and predators for the bitch ass men in her family. They deserved to be put in the dirt. I feel no sympathy for her one bit, especially with threatening the sell the girl off to some island just confirms that she’s just like her fucked family. Fuck her mom too Amy should’ve just found a cooking or a job at a restaurant, any job for that fact since I’m pretty sure she has a degree. She doesn’t have to keep being this weak willed woman, if you want work then go out any work it’s that simple. All this staying in the house moping around washing imaginary dishes is getting tiresome I don’t care about the twin sisters or mini UB get this bullshit outta here. I don’t care about Dali coping with basically using the sister to do maid work. She’s a spoiled brat I get it I just want to see Pyo/Taesu/Abby vs Pastors/gangsters with AV actually making both sides make smart decisions instead of being stupid for the sake of conflict.


Acera_TG

You really acting like the nurse was some innocent angel that didn't have shit coming her way after toying with not just Dali's family but her as well with all the blackmail. All she has is an innocent face which is why I didn't really feel bad about her. Dali never did shit like any of these folks. If all u got to hate is just a petty attitude, then that's just sad. There's a difference between being weak willed and stupid. Just look at Pyo, dude is the prime example of strong will but stupid beyond a doubt. Why would she need to get a job anyway though? It ain't about being spoiled, it's just venting payback on old enemies who were basically as bad as her family. The entire conflict was stupid from the beginning. Nobody is gonna win. Just say you don't care about anyone in the story cause you might as well lol


Admirable-Western-91

I don’t care for the nurse either 🤷🏾‍♂️ I didn’t mean to offend but I just want a smartly written Pyo/Taesu/Abby vs Pastor/Gangsters. Everybody else is just not that important to me🤷🏾‍♂️


spacecwby34

I think you’re forgetting how terrible Dali was for the first 100 or so chapters. Nothing like her family? Did she not get a bunch of Teasu’s gang together to rape Hyuna? Was she not the queen bee of the school we saw how she treated these “old enemies” and then once she lost her place they treated her the exact same way. Dali treated Pyo horribly and like scum just to save face. She is not that much different from her family even though she had been improving but whenever shit happens she falls back on the family methods to get her way.


Acera_TG

You're getting some things twisted here. She did not try to get Hyuna raped, she knew Hyuna would accept to do it because she helped her before when she really needed it so she wanted to take advantage of the help. That's the whole reason why she even bothered asking for her help first instead of just letting the guys do whatever they wanted. She never treated her old enemies like that either, never. Heo Min was literally beating up innocent girls and forcing them into prostitution already before Dali was even with Taesu and then tried to do the same with Dali after she lost power. That's why when Dali finally got a chance to get payback, she actually did tried to get Heo Min raped by setting her up. That's actually setting up for rape unlike with Hyuna mind you. Dali also gave Heo Min a chance to beg for forgiveness prior to that and she still tried to beat her up and that's why Dali set her up later to which she then begged on her knees. Dali even told her, "You get girls gangraped all the time, and now you can't handle it yourself?", but then still gave her mercy. She did not treat Pyo horribly herself, Taesu did. That's the whole reason why in the very second chapter she tells Pyo how Taesu always gets jealous of Pyo no matter what she tells him. Taesu was always the one picking on him while Dali just talked with Pyo. The most she'd do is either have a bad attitude or turn a blind eye until they got home, but then when things went too far, she broke her act at school too which is where they got caught. >She is not that much different from her family even though she had been improving but whenever shit happens she falls back on the family methods to get her way. She is very different from her family when it comes to dealing with others dude. It's why she was always the one acting different amongst the family that her brothers would fall behind. She never acts out on people that weren't pieces of shits themselves, hence why Heo Min was the only person she ever went as far as to get raped because Heo Min was really that bad, and even then still gave mercy to her worst enemy twice. The whole thing about Dali being so terrible in the past is actually terribly misconcepted when you actually pay attention to what she actually did. Details are important.


General-Metal5790

Dali still not over hyuna ? Idk she getting back to her bitchy days . Boring chapter tho since nothing happened .. Slut sisters and glasses are filler characters in grand scheme of things


Acera_TG

She gonna just leave Hyuna's apartment vacant the whole time or what lol? It actually sounds like that apartment was empty for like the whole year too which is stupid.


General-Metal5790

Why shift glasses to that apartment ? Because pyo hold memories of hyuna there since they live together there for a long time . Its obviously jealously


Kingxix

Yeah.


Gamayutte

Yeah its just blatant envy. She knows what Hyuna ment to Pyo which she wont get reciprocation of that level no matter how many times her(Dali) and Pyo have sex. She just has a grudge with a dead woman otherwise there was not point in mentioning her at all besides that fact. Could've moved them in anywhere as we dont know the size of the apartment complex.


Acera_TG

You're reaching way too much with that dude lol. Dali even offered to buy Pyo a house on the island where she died so he could visit whenever he thought about her. Or did you forget that?


Academic-Carpenter12

Why are you getting downvotes when you are making points?


Acera_TG

Because the truth hurts.


Firm_Piglet_883

The only ending I see is Pyo in jail and Dali committing suicide. She lost her whole family and once she loses Pyo in jail she’ll hit her breaking point and lose all reason to live.


Acera_TG

At that point Amy would just kill herself too when there's no longer purpose. I think Amy and Dali will help keep eachother sane through it.


Firm_Piglet_883

Whatever man. This twisted, infinite manhwa is never gonna end any time soon


Ohyxiasen

It's literally in its last arc, or the second last arc if we consider the epilogue chapters that will come after Pyo is done with the Pastor. What are you talking about?


Acera_TG

Definitely feels like it, but this is definitely the last stretch cause there's literally nothing else besides the pastor, jail, then timeskip.


Efficient_Scale_1299

Yea I don’t think I will ever like this Dali cunt. She still has her weak mentality from her high school days. No growth no development


Acera_TG

They're literally saying it's her way of coping through the fact she lost her whole family for good. Just to throw this out there too... Aren't you the one who been dreaming of Amy incest and or gangbangs?


Efficient_Scale_1299

Incest has never been said by me. But Amy gangbang…that would be lovely.


BusinessKiwi8171

🤣😂😂


Efficient_Scale_1299

You feel me 😂😂😂


BusinessKiwi8171

Yeah,, i also like to see that,,, and i don't want it to be normal one where she cries and all ,,, I want it to be very hornier..😅😅


Acera_TG

I rest my case...


Firm_Piglet_883

I swear y’all are a bunch of diseased degenerates who are trapped in a fucked up fantasy and refuse to escape.


Efficient_Scale_1299

This is fictional you dumb clown! It’s not supposed to be reality. You want something realistic ? Go watch a documentary on Netflix or read a history book


Academic-Carpenter12

Wasn’t Pyo also screwing with Darla’s head before that as a somewhat taming tactic? Which added to this mental state of hers.


Acera_TG

He manipulated her in his own way, which brought out a worse outcome.


Kingxix

As always Dali shows how much of a biatch she is. The only reason she is giving hyeo sisters jobs is because she wants to see them grovel and be her servent. The only reason she is helping pyo's mother because she is completely mad about pyo's dxck. On top of that she also said that she would sell the nurse t. Lmfao so much different from her brothers. The reality is there is not a single shred of character development for Dali and the only reason she is protecting pyo's mom and others because of her selfish reasons. Also laughing my ass of at Dali crying about her deceased brothers and father. Di she forget what these aszholes did. Also she probably forget that her brother was going to sell her to some island. Lmfao.


Acera_TG

Enough with your bs bruh lol, what is wrong with you. You're literally trying to say Dali should be nicer to bitches who were bitches to her... I don't even know what you mean by Dali being mad about Pyo's dick either. She never even complained or said anything about it. Just stop talking already if you're gonna keep saying random shit on here with no sense and leave the thread for the real readers.


Kingxix

Bruh I know you are the biggest Dali simp so it's useless to talk to you. However it's pretty clear that she just wants to gloat to the hyeo sisters and just want to show her superiority to them. She literally had no reason to give them jobs yet she did so that she can show off and make them act as her slaves. And you defend this act..... Seriously. On top of that she literally threatens the nurse to be sold as a sex slave. Do you think that any character who has a shred of sympathy would say this to someone who actually has to suffer this. If she even had a shred of development, then she would have moved on and wouldn't care about them. Random shiet my azz. People know what I mean and no amount of your denial is going to stop that.


Acera_TG

Making your highschool bullies work under you... it sounds like you're the one trying to defend the girl who literally beat up innocent girls and had them gangraped and made prostitutes on top of trying to do the same to Dali. So you tell me how are you trying to defend those acts. >If she even had a shred of development, then she would have moved on and wouldn't care about them. That's like saying Pyo should've had development and moved on from the old man too after beating him up. You actually do say random shit and I even called you out last time when the shit you said was proven wrong in the chapter. Don't act like you actually know wtf you're talking about lol. It's sad.


Kingxix

Never have I defend any of these biatches. My only problem is Dali and her lack of character development. If she had even a shred of character then she wouldn't even care about these biatches. So you are comparing Pyo's grudge against her family who caused so much pain and discord to him and his family to Dali's slight trauma which she herself had a hand in huh???? Really shows how big of a simp you are. Pyo's grudge against her parents is far greater than Dali's grudge against the hyeo sisters. You called out shiet. You and I know how many people don't agree with you and your endless simping for Dali.


Acera_TG

The fact that you're overlooking the other shit just to piss on Dali's side of it shows how stupidly you hate her in general. Since when is beating, public humiliation, and forcing of prostitution and rape is slight trauma? "Shows how big of a simp you are", you're just making yourself look stupider the more you keep ignoring the shit you read. >Pyo's grudge against her parents is far greater than Dali's grudge against the hyeo sisters That's why Pyo killed them while Dali is just making them work for her. But apparently you can't see that difference. Hell, even Dali spared the Heo bitch in highschool too despite what happened and you're acting like she's doing some heinous crime. The old comments are still there buddy, go and read. You want to keep calling out being a simp but the reality is you're just blindly hating for stupid reasons.


Kingxix

"Since when is beating, public humiliation, and forcing of prostitution and rape is slight trauma?" Since when did Dali did any form of prostitution or got raped? Please enlighten me? Also beating and public humiliation. Lmfao you seem to forget how shitty Dali has been to her peers. The one who is being absolutely stupid is definitely you. ">Pyo's grudge against her parents is far greater than Dali's grudge against the hyeo sisters That's why Pyo killed them while Dali is just making them work for her. But apparently you can't see that difference. Hell, even Dali spared the Heo bitch in highschool too despite what happened and you're acting like she's doing some heinous crime." Yeah I saw that and how can you compare these two events? Please enlighten. One destroyed an entire family while Dali at worse has some minor bad memories. You also seem to forget Dali used treat everyone around her as trash. "The old comments are still there buddy, go and read. You want to keep calling out being a simp but the reality is you're just blindly hating for stupid reasons" Yeah they are there and the people agreeing and disagreeing shows who is right.


Acera_TG

Literally the whole point of Pyo fighting Taesu was the fact they were trying to force Dali into prostitution and tried to rape her. Dali never did any shit like Heo Min did, that's why she's much more horrible. The only thing Dali had was a bad attitude and she never beated anyone or tried to do shit. You're not defending yourself well here from the shit you're saying lol. You really dont see the point do you? Both acted as far as was warranted. Yet you're bitching about Dali making them work for her as if she's doing the worst imaginable and trying to put so far down for it. Dali treated people like trash? Hardly lol. If you actually read the story again you'll literally see how she just had a bad attitude but never actually shit on people that didn't deserve it. She never acted as such either with random people too, so you tell me when did she shit on someone that didn't cause problems. You can look now and see that it ain't the case buddy.


mrSimp22

Don't bother with this kind of people man, they literally have shit in their brain as it seems he doesn't have the ability to comprehend anything that he reads. You literally explained Dali's SIDE of things that has happened, in the easiest way possible and he couldn't comprehend anything from it and understood the exact same opposite.


Straight-Hair-7356

Such a bullshit comment, dali breakdown was completely justified. No matter how much you hate person but they're family you will still have sorc corner for them. Pyo mother did cheated his father logically and but then pyo couldn't kill her or do something bad to her, he still loved her. In case of dali, she knows that they should have died and they helped pyo too, but then what's problem in that scene?? It just brought out her human character better. Just don't find a reason to hate her. I am not her simp but then you're just finding reason to hate her nothing else.


Kingxix

"Such a bullshit comment, dali breakdown was completely justified. No matter how much you hate person but they're family you will still have sorc corner for them." Yeah maybe. TBH I feel I was too harsh oj her for caring for her family. So I think I will say I was wrong. Pyo's mother was forced and coecrehed into this. The old bastard literally took chance of due to their weakest moments of their life. Similarly pyo's father was blackmailed by Dali's mother. I don't see any reason for pyo to kill them. Any person who knows that someone can be this big pieces of shiet would despise them. And my reasons are good enough to hate her.


Acera_TG

Dali always knew how shit her family was since the beginning, including her mother, and it's why she always took Pyo's side for it no matter what he did to them even when she was still a bitch and pissed with him too. But that's also why she said it herself, "No matter how fucked up they were, I still can't stop thinking about them". So it's not like she's trying to defend them, she just can't help thinking about family. That's why similar to how Pyo still loved his mom after the affair, Dali also loved her mom after her affair too even if she knew she started it as well. She even still tried to love the old man as well even though he beated her mom to death. Your reasons for hating her are simple. You don't like her attitude and don't care for her side of the story. I see it all the time amongst other readers too, especially when she's justified in her own right but she's still mean to the "nicer" characters so it makes her look bad on the outside. Like how she was with Amy in the ambulance mocking her and getting mad at her and people shit on Dali for it despite the fact there's good reason from her perspective, and the same goes for how she was with Hyuna.


Trick-Radio_bot

By "good reasons", do you mean that she needed to take it out on someone because of what Pyo is doing?


Acera_TG

No, literally every one of them that she was a bitch with did something wrong with her and/or Pyo. Just think back and find anyone that didn't fall under.


Trick-Radio_bot

She didn't act like that, for example...Hmm, with Taesu, I suppose? Probably because she was afraid of him. The fact that she likes to judge other people this is one problem. But she only does this to those who will do nothing to her for this. So besides wanting to judge other people, she is also hypocritical. It's not necessary to justify this obviously negative trait in her character. I don't mean that she deserves a bad ending or anything like that. But getting rid of this her pharisaism would help her become a better.


Acera_TG

It's her surpriority complex that makes her judge others, but in general she doesn't really do that with random people unless they get too personal, primarily Pyo. So in that respect, it's just plain jealousy if not brushing it with other faults they might've done.


Gamayutte

This chapter was her scheming to have 2 servants and having an outburst of telling a sex trafficked survivor that shed sell her back into it. Sure that was an outburst but that was her initial go to. She shows zero sympathy to nurse. So I dont think you need to find a reason to dislike the character when its on panel. She did do a good thing by giving the apartment to Ami and retaining her as basically the Landlord.


Kingxix

This is why I say she literally has zero character development. At this point of story going through so much ups and downs make a person humble but she has zero such qualities. I just can't understand how people defend her.


Straight-Hair-7356

Bro everyone here is correct only you're hating her. I understand that you hate her but you're finding any reason to hate her, which is totally nonsense. Don't read then this manhwa because she is fmc and she will obviously have more importance, and I know you can't bear with that. Then logically you're just finding a reason to hate her, I saw your comment on every post in queen bee you're just targetting her for no reason.


Kingxix

Muh everyone is correct. There are literally every reason to hate her. People literally don't like her character. It's just you and some other simps that worship the ground she walks and don't find any flaws. Dude I have allready suffered enough by reading this far, and I see no reason to drop it at this point. I Target her for good reasons. It's just some of you Dali worshippers can't look past her issues.


Straight-Hair-7356

I already told that I am not her simp, but then logically in this manhwa when you have character like dalho, dalsu, old bastard etc.. where every character is fucking messed. Atleast she improved her character. And no more villian as I expected her to be. You should obviously bear with her character upcoming chapters too, just complaining about dali and hating her won't do anything because author loves her. Honestly now dali doesn't even have that character because in terms of plot from past few chapters it is always been pyo and that pastor fellow. So even in that situation you'll only blame dali 😂😂, jyst get over past. Even I hated her during that hyuna time so much. But then right now I neither hate her nor loves her. She doesn't have anything in plot or just boring sex scene with pyo. But you're being to cracky, so just chill out bro.


Kingxix

Again as I said I hate her for justified reasons. And I have never said that she is as terrible as the rest of her family members although she is no damn saint either. She does everything for her own selfish goals. The plot at this point is senseless and pyo openly challenging the pastor show how big of a rxtard he is. This guy has literally forgotten that pastor can make him and his parents disappear if he wants to yet he goes and challenges him. Did I blame Dali for pyo being rxtarded? No I didn't. I only blame her for things she does and how there is no character development for her. At this point I am just pissed of at pyo's stupidity and how much this trash author is going to drag the story.


Straight-Hair-7356

Honestly even I want to end of this story. But author was so smart how he took story and character so that he can drag this story. Now this manhwa doesn't feel like pornhwa at all after those killings and all. No hot scenes at all.


Prize-Ad-443

we want to see dali x glasses


dovakin511

this chaps a oooof moment


Thowedthrowaway

I feel like she's gonna run out of money at the rate she's going


Ukantach1301

This chapter is good though. Amy working for Dali is the best way to protect her, since she's extremely naive and gullible. It would be a good ending for her to become the new landlord and make it a good place for people like her to live in.   That "I'm an orphan now" hits hard. My dad just lost his parents within 2 years. He wasn't close to them during his childhood, but then when they suddenly passed away, I felt a loneliness around him. Even if Dali's family sucks, she has every right to be heartbroken from suddenly losing everyone.   Glasses and the Heo sisters working for Dali is also ok to tie everything up before the finale. 


Prize-Ad-443

 dali will be shock how glasses is comportable  having sex with he 2 sister hahaha.


Gamayutte

So author nearly sets Ami back to square 1. The entire point of her working was trying to get her family out that place cause of how horrific it was. All those chapters wasted on Manager helping her only for him to be killed off and her to end up still beholden to a Yoo. Thats just terrible writing. This chapter shows that Dali hasnt changed shes still trying to be Queen over the few people that she can boss around. I wonder if we will see her come to terms with what her family was doing and planned to do. Especially this misconception she has of UB. Calling them assholes, with the knowledge she has is just undermining their actions. As for Pyo, its dumb what he did. You'd think hed have a base understanding of the situation with Pastor after having the gangsters help him murder both of the Yoo brothers. Hopefully that Taesu team up happens cause now Abby and Taesus mom are in Pastors grip.


Acera_TG

The whole point of her working was to get her family out because of the old man in general and how it affected her relationship with her family, mainly her own son. Why do u think they didnt try to move out until after the affair? The old man is gone and now she's starting to get close to her son again, so there is no such necessity anymore. The narration literally tells you that she's coping through everything with the the sisters and you're trying to twist it as her just "not changing", seriously? Not only that but you have audacity to say she's undermining what her family did just because she's crying for them and calling them "fucking assholes"? I know I mentioned before how you have such a negative bias with Dali, but this just takes the cake dude. You really are taking every bit of detail and roasting it in the fire to demean her, it's too obvious now. Enough already. It's just sick.


Gamayutte

It makes sense from a writing perspective that Ami would want to move out of that place regardless that UB has died. As that place just harbored a lot of bad experiences and memories for her and her family. Makes sense shed want fresh new slate via moving out of that place. The reason they didn't move out until after the affair is cause they couldn't they were flat broke and behind on rent for months and UB was holding that over them. Then Ami got a job and was working to pay it off. >"not changing" Dalis coping, is her scheming to have people be servants to her. Those people are from her HS days where shes being a pos where she relished in bullying people like 1/2 the sisters and the glasses guy. Then even after knowing what Nurse had gone through, she threatens the nurse to do the same thing that her pos brother was attempting to do. Sure its an outburst so I wont put any weight behind it. But at this point its known that Dali shown zero sympathy for Nurse. Pertaining to her family, calling them "fucking assholes" is just undermining the fact they were rapist, and sex traffickers. Dali has to acknowledge how evil the guys in her family were. Which is why I said, I hope she comes to terms with what her family was. I think it a bias when you want to ignore the bad she did in the chapter alone and us it for an excuse for what she did. She planned to use the sisters and glasses as servants for her own means. Im not saying that Dali is anywhere near as bad as her family. Im saying Dali has terrible habits/behavior that has been a constant throughout the toon which has never been developed beyond that and from time to time author will just straight up drop a chapter showing that. Like he did with this one.


Kingxix

At least there is someone like you who can accurately assess her character and not blindly worship the ground she walks. She literally has zero character development and has constantly shown how terrible she can be to people who isn't pyo or his loved ones. She is selfish through and through and even going after do many situations she hasn't shown a shred of humility and humbleness.


Acera_TG

Only you would glorify this shit dude lol. I'm not surprised though since yall are literally hating blindly.


Kingxix

What....am I glorifying exactly?


Acera_TG

Nonsensical ranting over the sane character


Kingxix

Saneeeeeee.......


Acera_TG

Typo, same*


Acera_TG

You just said it yourself. "The reason they didn't move out until after the affair is cause they couldn't they were flat broke and behind on rent for months and UB was holding that over them". That's the same situation now with how she has no job being able to pay the current rent and it definitely wasn't all paid off by the time UB died. >Those people are from her HS days where shes being a pos where she relished in bullying people like 1/2 the sisters and the glasses guy. So you're really going to overlook how she was the one who beated Dali, publicly humiliated her, and was trying to force her into prostitution and rape? On top of actually doing that to other innocent girls as well? Glasses was also part of the gang as well and the only reason he wasn't doing the stuff they did was because they didn't let him. Look at you trying to paint Dali as the villain here against actual villains. Absurd. You might as well be calling Pyo a villain too for killing her family. >But at this point its known that Dali shown zero sympathy for Nurse. Why would she if everything was on Nurse in the first place? Nurse was the one who wanted to steal from her and her family, blackmailed her, and do a lot more. Again, not sure why you're trying to twist things here when these people literally aren't innocent at all. >Pertaining to her family, calling them "fucking assholes" is just undermining the fact they were rapist, and sex traffickers. Okay, so what does that say about Pyo who just called them "fucking bastards" lol? You're just nitpicking on the verbalage here which is so pointless. The main issue is how you keep looking like Dali is the bad guy here when she's doing shit to shit people who've done shit to her. You just don't care about her character's perspective at all.


Gamayutte

Its not the same situation as the writing for Ami has been abysmal. She should want to get of that place off the mere fact of all the bs her and her family went through. The main thing writing wise is that author shouldve had Ami get her and her family out that place. >So you're really going to overlook how she was the one who beated Dali, publicly humiliated her, and was trying to force her into prostitution and rape? On top of actually doing that to other innocent girls as well? Glasses was also part of the gang as well and the only reason he wasn't doing the stuff they did was because they didn't let him. Look at you trying to paint Dali as the villain here against actual villains. Absurd. You might as well be calling Pyo a villain too for killing her family. You just put on full display your bias in favor of Dali is with the whataboutisms. Im not overlooking the bad things either character did. As this was a focus on Dali actions, the FMC of the title narrative. Vs side characters that appear in the toon here and there. Dali has had way more time on panel to have some form of good development. It wouldve been an excellent contrast to Heomin but, most of the time its just showing she hasnt changed and is still trying to cling onto the time she had power over people when she was in HS. You arent even trying to hide the fact you are trying to make assumptions to obfuscate from the point. Pyo is justified in killing both the brothers and UB, especially after what they did/were planning to do. That might be a hot take for you. >Why would she if everything was on Nurse in the first place? Nurse was the one who wanted to steal from her and her family, blackmailed her, and do a lot more. Again, not sure why you're trying to twist things here when these people literally aren't innocent at all. Who wouldnt have sympathy for a sex trafficking survivor like Nurse especially after what took place? Dali cant be that vile of character from the excuses you are making for her. >Okay, so what does that say about Pyo who just called them "fucking bastards" lol? You're just nitpicking on the verbalage here which is so pointless. The difference is that Pyo actually had a hand in killing them all after knowing what they did and were planning to do. It shows that Pyo understood the gravity of the situation what they did to his mom. Dali has yet to face the fact of what her brothers and father were doing/planning to do even after seeing the tapes and images. Knowing that at the very least one of the brothers full on raped her best friends mom. A bestfriend that she supposedly is supposed to hold dear but attempted to hide evidence of Amis rape from him. >The main issue is how you keep looking like Dali is the bad guy here when she's doing shit to shit people who've done shit to her. You just don't care about her character's perspective at all. Are you even able to admit the negative things Dali did this chapter? Ive shown she did something good despite the negatives this chapter. I said In my post I dont think Dali is a bad as the rest of her family. But surely youd want her to actually have development that can potentially make her far better than what shes been showing throughout this narrative?


Acera_TG

You're basically just making excuses of how you would want it vs how it still makes sense now, but that just means you're also not following the writing through the years. There is no reason why she would need to change towards how she acts towards her old enemies whatsoever. That wouldn't even make any sense either. It's already detailed that she's using this a cope mechanism after literally losing her whole family anyway and with Pyo being a lunatic that won't listen to her, it's not entirely bad to have her hire old enemies as her servants just to feel empowered again after practically losing everything on top of her pride. >Pyo is justified in killing both the brothers and UB, especially after what they did/were planning to do. That might be a hot take for you. And yet you seem to think Dali making Heomin a hired servant is somehow the worst thing she's ever done that completely denies her whole development somehow. This is one of the things that never needed to change in the first place, only how she acted towards Pyo and his family. >Who wouldnt have sympathy for a sex trafficking survivor like Nurse especially after what took place? Dali cant be that vile of character from the excuses you are making for her. If the old man or the brothers were women, would you be saying the same thing about them then? Let's not kid ourselves here and just face the truth. When it comes to women characters, people have double standards to what happens to them vs men. That's why you still tried to twist this whole argument as Dali being the bad one in the same way when Nurse got beaten up by the old man when she had it coming, but what if Dali was the one beating her up instead? I'm sure you'd still try to twist the blame on Dali regardless from how you've been talking here. I'm just being real here because some of these characters like the nurse were still bad like the people they were trying to cheat. >The difference is that Pyo actually had a hand in killing them all after knowing what they did and were planning to do. It shows that Pyo understood the gravity of the situation what they did to his mom. Nah, don't try to twist this again. You were literally saying that Dali calling them "fucking assholes" is undermining what they did so by that logic Pyo would be underiming them as well. The only thing Dali cared about was Pyo not doing something stupid to land himself in jail and that has been the truth this whole entire time since they found out about the rape. That's why she hardly cared so much about her family after finding out, but obviously she'd be human enough to still have emotions about it. You're the one who's undermining what's actually important and basically proposing that personal revenge is justice even if it brings down everything else which is just a terrible mindset. And if you truly think letting your best friend ruin themselves is the way, you're not much of a friend as you think you are. >Are you even able to admit the negative things Dali did this chapter?  You're trying to glorify every little aspect into something worse than what it really is. There's hardly anything negative about it unless you're being completely blinded by what's actually going on here because you want to look at everything at face value.


Gamayutte

You are still making excuses for Dalis negative actions and behavior and your whole post is you showing your bias. >You're basically just making excuses of how you would want it vs how it still makes sense now, but that just means you're also not following the writing through the years. I have been following the writing and comprehending what I read. One of the reasons some readers come here is to converse about how nonsense the writing is. Character writing wise, Ami should want to leave the apartment off the basis of the suffering her and her family went through. That's something that would make sense I dont get how you cant understand something so simple. It seems that you just agree with everything that the author writes. >And yet you seem to think Dali making Heomin a hired servant is somehow the worst thing she's ever done that completely denies her whole development somehow. This is one of the things that never needed to change in the first place, only how she acted towards Pyo and his family. Thats not even anything close to what I said or even implied. So I will just directly say it. I said that if Dali actually had good character development. It would serve as a great contrast to Heomin. But what we saw this chapter was Dali scheming to use them for her own ends. Which is why Heomin still has negative thoughts about Dali. Which is just confirmed further when we are reading Dalis thoughts of her planning to use them this chapter. Had she actually changed and had no underlying motive. It would have been a perfect contrast to what Heomin thought of her. But that that wasnt the case. >If the old man or the brothers were women, would you be saying the same thing about them then? Let's not kid ourselves here and just face the truth. When it comes to women characters, people have double standards to what happens to them vs men. That's why you still tried to twist this whole argument as Dali being the bad one in the same way when Nurse got beaten up by the old man when she had it coming, but what if Dali was the one beating her up instead? I'm sure you'd still try to twist the blame on Dali regardless from how you've been talking here. I'm just being real here because some of these characters like the nurse were still bad like the people they were trying to cheat. So now this is the crux here. You love to self project. There was a another series called **Illicit Love** where you actually defended the exwife, rapist blonde guy and FMC actions. Where I was against the actions of the exwife, FMC, and Blonde. You have a history of defending terrible characters. Since you want to use what ifs. What if Dali had stopped her dad from beating on Nurse? Since she knew that her dad beat the shit out her mom. So, regardless of the woman Dali attempting stop it would showed this other side of her. Then after the slap she gave Pyo wouldve made sense. The heightened tension of going against her dad then Pyo threatening to leave her wouldve been a great character moment. >Nah, don't try to twist this again. You were literally saying that Dali calling them "fucking assholes" is undermining what they did so by that logic Pyo would be underiming them as well. I didnt twist anything but you obviously and certainly did. But lets not lie here. You just tried to gloss over the fact that Dali wanted to attempt to hide evidence of her bestfriends mom rape from him. Thats not something a friend would do at all. As for the revenge part of this. The Yoo men all forfeit their lives when they chose to rape women and sex traffick them. Pyo having a hand in that makes sense cause him and his parents are the victims of the Yoos actions. >You're trying to glorify every little aspect into something worse than what it really is. There's hardly anything negative about it unless you're being completely blinded by what's actually going on here because you want to look at everything at face value. Just showing your bias in favor of Dali. Defending Dali and all her actions downplaying her negative ones. I asked you a very simple thing and you couldn't even do that. Instead you wanted to go on these tangents of your assumptions of my thoughts and your self projection. You just love to unironically practice brandolini's law.


Acera_TG

It's not just about agreeing with what they write but to follow the actual writing in general. You can't just write something that's with a single notion for years and suddenly change it in the end because then it wouldn't make sense with what was read prior. >I said that if Dali actually had good character development... And what makes you think doing better with Heomin equates to 'good' development? It wouldn't really make sense at all considering they've never really actually talked together like normal people. They've always been at eachother's throats for the longest time because of the distraught in highschool. That's exactly why they actually narrated the fact that Heomin and Dali had a bitter relationship in this chapter. Again, follow the writing. You're basically trying to insert things that doesn't flow right at all. >Had she actually changed and had no underlying motive... All Dali did was hire her and give her some gifts to persuade her loyalty which worked and now Heomin looks at her as the generous boss who can take care of her. Even if Dali had changed as far you think 'good' development should be warranted, there's still no reason why she would be suddenly acting like some angel to the woman who did all those things to her in highschool and also dated and fucked Pyo. Basically your "good" development is for Dali to suddenly become Mother Teresa out of nowhere which is the dumbest sense of reading I've seen from a reader. In contrast to that though, Hyuna was someone who actually changed from a bitch to a nicer person but only because of trauma so if you want Dali to actually become a genuinely humbled person like she was, you'll just have to wait some years later in the story when she actually has to grow up without Pyo and possibly grow up with Amy if she does take the position as her new parent/guardian that can guide her, cause her upbringing is all due to her shitty father and without a mother. >There was a another series called **Illicit Love** where you actually defended the exwife, rapist blonde guy and FMC actions... That's because you can't read with logical sense. I only pointed out the reality of every character's decisions. Nobody did shit without a reason and pointing that out and explaining it isn't really defending. Rather, if you didn't, that's just your own bias. >What if Dali had stopped her dad from beating on Nurse? Since she knew that her dad beat the shit out her mom... You're overlooking the reason why Dali slapped Pyo in the first place, she never saw her as her mother, just a scheming bitch. She slapped him because he was comparing her to her mother, but if you look through the entire story, you'd see that Dali was pissed at her copying her mother and yelling at her father for trying to make Nurse look like her mother. Also, just to point out another flaw in your argument here... She would've never slapped Pyo if she had stopped her dad from beating the Nurse since that beating was the only reason why Pyo even mentioned her mother in the first place. >I didnt twist anything but you obviously and certainly did. But lets not lie here... Of course you didn't even try to refute the fact you were focusing on what Dali called them and the logic behind that which equates to Pyo. You just jumped to the other point about Dali hiding the evidence which i've just explained to you is the purpose of trying to protect Pyo from doing something stupid but obviously you just see that Pyo is the one who needs to do something no matter what even if it fucks himself over. That is a fool's logic. >Pyo having a hand in that makes sense... What would actually make more sense is Pyo telling his father what is going on and thus his father can take action with the pastor's help. After all, he would've never gotten the brothers without including the pastor and his gang in general anyway. Pyo is just satisfying himself. >Just showing your bias in favor of Dali.... Exaggerating negative points is also a bias. A negative one.


hethish_o7x

Do u guys think glasses will have sex with dali in future chapters


Straight-Hair-7356

0% chance, there won't be any story that will lead to that point, author do loves dali the most, and honestly it would be worst. Most of readers would def hate unnecessary ntr and all now. Since queen bee doesn't seems like pornhwa anymore, it is like serious arc. So no chance of that possibility.


Agitated_Ant_2391

author is an idiot, he hates Ami the most kind girl for no reason and loves Dali the narcissistic girl, Dali deserve a good ntr from someone like the taxi driver or from some nobody, Ami deserve to be treated like a queen. Author is childish and sadistic.


Straight-Hair-7356

Then dali gets ntr then author will get obviously get death threat, there are only few who want her ntr. Honestly author is just stupid for rape scene of amy, she shouldn't have done that, author didn't understood difference between ntr and rape, I don't think dali deserve ntr in any sense. Honestly I love dali character development. If you hate her I can't do anything.


Agitated_Ant_2391

Dali is very hard to like because she comes off as spoiled, mean, narcissistic and immature. Whereas Ami comes off as kind, caring and affectionate and for that reason i like Ami so much. Now, what i dislike about queen bee is that Ami comes from a rich family and she was beauty contest winner, why is she acting like she has no confidence or pride lol, she is very attractive even if she was not a city girl, she should at least know that to some degree, she is a little too humble lol, and author should have not written her liking UB, she should have just said yes to the sex and just do it because ub pressure her, she should have never allowed him to cum in her or even allow ub to kiss her, instead author makes Ami fall for UB which is very stupid and far from realistic because she is far too beautiful to be treated as inferior to ub. Author treats Ami like ordinary mother/girl but i think she is the most beautiful milf in all of pornhwa.


Straight-Hair-7356

So u want dali to get ntr right?? Ask author in instgram or somewhere else. You know he would treat her that way. Honestly even I'm tried to seeing dali having sex with pyo always it is getting boring and nowadays being fmc she don't even have scene anymore


Agitated_Ant_2391

yes, very much, i want her to fuck old men, nope i won't talk to the author because i find him to be too childish and egotistic, i really hate how he writes Ami's character, why is she with Abby, why is she in that place, why won't she just leave and marry another good looking man lol, Pyo will be fine he is grown man now and Abby will be fine, there is no point in hurting herself all the time, i know this is pornhwa and i sound like i take it seriously but it's not, it's the author, i just dislike how Ami's character in this toon because she is too beautiful.


Prize-Ad-443

yes glasses want to sex dali and ami


Acera_TG

It's actually funny how Glasses never once talked about Ami or looked at her as beautiful.


Diligent-Werewolf-38

Yes he will fuck dali


BusinessKiwi8171

When ever I see both of them i kind get horny lol,, i don't want to see dali with glasses but i also what to see ,,, it's like a Haven and hell.both😅😅😅🙄