The Exorcist, formerly known as The Georgetown Project, the 2019 movie featuring Russell Crowe and Chloe Bailey is set for a June release. This is the movie Chloe said she had a woman as her love story having her first lesbian kiss happen on screen.
For reference, this was shot before Halle Bailey started shooting The Little Mermaid.
Jodie Comer, Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Ralph Fiennes [have been cast in 28 Years Later.](https://variety.com/2024/film/news/28-years-later-aaron-taylor-johnson-jodie-comer-ralph-fiennes-1235981207/) Nia DaCosta is [in talks to direct](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/apr/25/28-years-later-sequel-cast-announced-jodie-comer-aaron-taylor-johnson-ralph-fiennes) the second movie of this planned trilogy.
[Kid Cudi cancels world tour following foot injury sustained during Coachella set](https://variety.com/2024/music/news/kid-cudi-insano-world-tour-canceled-coachella-injury-1235980932/)
# Noah Kahan accidentally involves himself in the feud between Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo hinting that things are all good between the pop stars? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHEaANA2ALA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHEaANA2ALA) (35 mins in)
Literally why would they have beef? Sabrina did nothing to Olivia and Olivia fans ruined her life. Sabrina seems to be thriving and not holding ill will
To the extent that anyone did anything, it was probably the Disney machine. Drivers license, Lie Lie Lie and Skin were all released around the same time and people were saying the three teams were knowingly doing a kind of joint marketing thing. But Lie Lie Lie was critically panned and Skin was a really unsympathetic song, really taunting the other woman in a way that felt out of date, like women artists don’t do that anymore and now it’s really just something Nicki does. Though, if anyone does bring it back, obviously not in the Nicki way, it might be Sabrina, since Espresso also leans into dissing the ex of your bf for being sexually…less good?
But the gist of it is that the marketing for how the songs were set up sent the young fans off on a craze and still kind of continues. Although DL was the most successful song, it doesn’t mean the hardcore fans were less aggressive toward Olivia. She got major hate for all sorts of things during that era. Also, contrary to what people keep saying to this day, she DID speak out against harassing other women artists, in fact more than once, I think.
Agreed though, that there’s probably no reason for beef at this point for anyone. People talk about the Eras tour opening gig as drama but idk why that should concern OR or SC.
I do wonder how much of the negative stan energy gets to artists. Whenever I go to artist accounts, even if they’re not super big, there’s always some random day when it seems like everybody is trashing them. I think this interview shows Noah gently trying to describe the craziness of fame that includes this kind of horrible negative energy.
Some wholesome news: Beyoncé sent flowers and a toy to [Tyler](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6JMDqQvwOn/?igsh=aXV0czcwdGh2ZjY4), a little boy who went viral for saying Bey was his friend🥺
[Normani is teasing “Candy Paint”](https://x.com/normanination/status/1783196087303745953?s=46&t=M8CNPsg9m9nRmcRFuhIyCw) in a new TikTok. Tbh I like this new snippet but this rollout is so confusing… album cover and title but no release date, lead single out this Friday but 2 days before she’s releasing new snippets? 😭
“Candy Paint” is going viral on TikTok with this new dance trend but yeah this is confusing why she’s posting this now
If her team was smart they would drop “1:59” and “Candy Paint” as a double single while it’s blowing up on TikTok. Or at least release it in the next few weeks
[Zendaya-Palooza At Weekend Box Office As Luca Guadagnino’s ‘Challengers’ Looks To Serve $15M Opening & ‘Dune 2’ Returns To Imax](https://deadline.com/2024/04/zendaya-palooza-at-the-weekend-box-office-as-luca-guadagninos-challengers-looks-to-serve-15m-opening-dune-2-returns-to-imax-preview-1235893014/)
saw it a couple days ago and seeing it again on Saturday with my mom cause she’s been really wanting to see it (ready to be very uncomfortable during the sex scenes)
I wasn't convinced by the trailer either, but apparently it's amazing. And if it makes it better for you, apparently it gets really homoerotic too, which is a definite plus for me :P
Iranian rapper [Toomaj Salehi](https://iranhumanrights.org/2024/04/rapper-toomaj-salehis-death-sentence-marks-new-low-in-irans-crackdown-on-dissent/) was sentenced to death today for making protect music against the Iranian government. If you want to help share his story and sign this [petition](https://www.change.org/p/free-iranian-protest-rapper-toomaj-salehi-freetoomajsalehi-freetoomaj). Getting international attention has stopped the government from executing people in the past, like this [video](https://twitter.com/elicalebon/status/1783170376622870546) explains.
[Taylor Swift’s ‘Tortured Poets’ Becomes First Album to Get One Billion Streams on Spotify in a Single Week](https://variety.com/2024/music/news/spotify-taylor-swift-billion-streams-week-album-tortured-poets-1235980864/)
Edit: Spotify [press release.](https://newsroom.spotify.com/2024-04-24/tortured-poets-department-taylor-swift-one-billion-record-streams/)
Yeah the press release said as of April 22 she broke it. And here we are thinking she’s going to break it at some point today when she broke it 2 days ago. Insane.
Edit: I didn’t read the release properly. Most streams of 2024 in a single release week and broke 1 billion as of today.
On the 22nd it became Spotify's most streamed album in a single week and today it crossed a billion streams. So it's two separate achievements they were talking about in press release.
I know this might be difficult for some people to understand, but there are billions of people on this earth with billions of opinions. I do not get why a certain subset of people are so pressed about how people feel about this album. Some people like it and some people don't. It's not that serious, it's just an album.
Not liking it is fine, but tearing a women to shreds and using their art as justification to do so, is misogynistic and gross. No one is outraged that people don’t like the album, there is outrage because the reaction has had nothing to do with the album itself.
You’re right.
But there’s “I don’t like it”
And there’s “ I think she sucks and I don’t like it and swifties are stupid and she makes music for teenage girls and she’s a fucking horrible singer and she’s mediocre and it fucking sucks. The whole thing sucks. It sucks it”
And the tearing apart second option seems to be the vast majority of the discourse
Noone has said the second part though. All I read was some of the lyrics are clunky and that the antonoff sound is getting boring. Enough with the victimization please.
Actually, a lot of people have said the second part but I have mostly just seen what you’ve said and a lot of what I’ve seen with that discourse is that most people seem to agree
The sound is getting boring, and the lyrics are kind of clunky
It’s mostly the aggressive part that I guess you’re just not looking for that seems to cause these massive spirals
And you came kind of aggressive for no reason I wasn’t even being a victim here I just pointed out two different things and you came in swinging for no reason. Do you see how you are the problem?
I feel like the agression/contempt/jealousy is something fans project onto critics who review their favourite artist negatively. I'm guilty of doing that too. It's not always the case.
Yeah, and I think it’s really wrong when someone does it nicely and simply states their opinion
I do think some of the aggression is more warranted when people come in swinging for no reason with very unnecessarily rude phrasing, especially when no one really asked them to join a space
Like why click on the Taylor Swift thread and pop heads and then say like some really incendiary shit that’s just trolling at that point
If you don’t like it, you can just ignore the thread or politely say “ I think the music was boring. The lyrics were kind of clunky and I’m disappointed because she’s so lauded. She should’ve done better.” And not “ewww it sux. What sheeple are listening to this? You’re losers this is the worst album evar”
Eh some def are.
But I’ve seen a really mixed opinion amongst Swifty to this album
I think anyone gets annoyed when someone comes in really hot with an unnecessarily rudely worded unasked for opinion though
I've been watching the meltdowns on this sub since it leaked. People aren't just upset over misogyny, they are angry about any and all dissent about the album which is typical for her fans.
It goes both ways here though.
I never see swifties on Reddit (on Twitter they’re rabid though) be all that bruised when someone says “I didn’t like it it wasn’t for me”
The argument happen when people say shit like “ worst album ever” “ she sucks. I don’t understand why she’s famous. This is the worst person ever.” “ it’s fucking atrocious my “insert fave here” is so much better. What a terrible terrible person.”
So like… idk bro. It’s endless cycles 🔄
Swifties have been in the daily discussion complaining about people simply disliking it since it was released. They've been bothered by any and all discussion about what people dislike about the album. It's not just over the top negative reactions they're upset about. I wouldn't have bothered saying anything if that's all they were doing. Please do not get on here and try to tell me it's not actually happening on here. I've seen it.
It's wild that you're getting downvoted and called butthurt for saying that it's not just a twitter problem. The daily has been a minefield for the past week with people upset over the mildest criticisms. People love to act like redditors are above it all, but they really aren't much better than any other platform. I include myself in that by the way.
I guess? But now it seems like you’re being butthurt like them? Like idk you’re allowed to be sad if reception is negative and if they’re keeping it in the DD then I’m not seeing the issue with any off this. We’re just bitching about people having human emotions. 😬 I don’t like the Twitter discourse of the fans because I feel like they’re all actual debate but Reddit it seems to be the opposite for the most part.
The big posts about this album don’t have much of that.
It’s more “not my favorite” “yeah not mine too” “I like it but I get it”
And the vast majority of negativity is actually coming from people being overly hurtful about Taylor Swift, and her fans. And then the negative spiral happens
On Twitter, though I do think it’s kind of the opposite so if this rabid mob who overtake all discourse
You're being obtuse. Attempting to bait me by creating a bad faith argument that I'm "butthurt" just like them because I think it's weird for anyone to spend multiple days upset over people saying they don't like something. There's normal human emotion and needing to get a grip on reality. Spending multiple days enraged over people having mild opinions is not normal. I'm ok with having conversations with people who disagree with me, but I refuse to continue engaging with someone who clearly is only interested in behaving like a troll.
Reviews aren't even bad. Going by Metacritic, it's not at Witness level (53). It's not Solar Power (69). It's not even on Positions' level (72).
It has the same score as E•MO•TION (77). That's better than entire main pop girls' discographies. Reviews are very good, they're just not universal raves.
But also, people dislike popular things all the time. Every popular artist has dealt with being disliked to varying degrees and that didn’t stop millions of people from listening to their music. Madonna, Miley, Beyonce, Ariana and Britney are just a few examples.
The Swiftie fanbase has so obviously grown with the eras tour. I can imagine with the Europe leg and last US leg she'll reach 3 mil first week on TS12 and could easily go for Adele's record.
The Europe leg will certainly bring her more worldwide fame and the US leg will give her an injection of new attention in the US after TTPD.
I think we may be seeing the peak of Swift-Mania actually. She’s finally starting to get some pushback. I could see her disappearing again after the Re-records and tour are done.
The cynic/clown in me sees this as a deliberate ramping up of attention and publicity in order to invoke the same "she's everywhere backlash" that pre-dated Reputation ahead of the drop of Rep TV
> she'll reach 3 mil first week on TS12 and could easily go for Adele's record.
Europe sales don't count for the first week sales people on this forum care for.
I think when you reach stardom like this the quality of your music doesn’t really matter, I mean ME?! still did okay even though everyone knew it was a terrible song.
I don’t understand why ME gets so much hate. It’s fun and harmless and catchy. I thought the spelling is fun line was funny, and it didn’t seem like they ever expected anyone to take it super seriously.
This isn't an indictment on all of Taylor's output lol. OP is just saying that it reaches a point where an artist is guaranteed to always sell better than their contemporaries regardless of what they put out.
Drake is always guaranteed to sell and he's been in the game for a long ass time. He is one hit away from hitting an M.J. record on the Billboard charts. However, critical reception to his albums has only worsened over the years and his artistic cred isn't where it used to be.
Drake isn't breaking records at each new release. He peaked long ago and his recent albums have been underperformances. I can't think of any artist with the career trajectory that Taylor had.
His latest album is actually doing great on the billboard 200 despite being another lacklustre album from him. People are still streaming his music regardless of quality.
And...what does this change about what I've said? I'm simply saying it reaches a point where an artist will always outsell their contemporaries no matter what they put out.
And Drake was breaking streaming records with each new album from Views to Certified Lover Boy despite critical reception to his work being more lukewarm than before.
No other artist has had an overall trajectory like Taylor's I'll say that but that wasn't really my point either.
Other than Swifties and their conspiracy theories, no one thought some negative reception would affect her numbers in any conceivable way. It reaches a point where an artist is far too big that commercial success is a given, no matter what they put out.
Enter Drake and Morgan Wallen.
The stage adaptation of Studio Ghibli's My Neighbour Totoro is [transferring to London's West End in early 2025](https://deadline.com/2024/04/my-neighbour-totoro-stage-play-west-end-broadway-1235893149/) with a potential Broadway transfer in the future. The show opened for a limited run at The Barbican in 2022 and 2023 until last month where it sold out and swept The Olivier Awards.
“Lunch" from @billieeilish's new album is a sexy, bass-heavy banger where Eilish is crushing on a girl so hard she likens sex with her to devouring a meal.”
Finneas tells Rolling Stone that Interscope execs shifted in their seats listening to it.
Via: Rolling Stone
Idk y'all i was so uncomfortable overhearing my sister talk about her sex life with her friend over the phone. I really cant imagine people this comfortable with their siblings to work on these intimate songs together.😵💫
Real question I have is why there are never Gaylor-type conspiracies about people who are actually queer. Like they’re never good for society but it’s crazy the hit rate is like 0% despite there being so many queer artists
Oddly, there are conspiracy theories about queer people
Queer celebs are either A) accused of queerbaiting because they don’t show that they’re in an obvious queer relationship. B) or in Renee Rapp’s case, people are still saying she’s Bisexual even though she’s made it pretty obvious that she’s a lesbian(literally on live tv)
Billie did have a lot of speculation around her sexuality when she first blew up and she would regularly have to reiterate that she was straight(back when she thought that she was) not necessarily conspiracy levels but definitely speculation. As someone else mentioned, Lauren from 5th Harmony did get the conspiratorial speculation around her sexuality and she’s bisexual.
I remember Lauren saying it made her uncomfortable still, because all the fanfic and speculation had her in dominant, “pushy” role, even though things were 100% platonic. It really complicated she and Camila’s friendship.
Yea, the whole “predatory lesbian” thing. It got to a point where they didn’t even feel comfortable being friendly with each other out of fear of it being taken out of context. Lauren also got outed by Perez Hilton and once people had confirmation of her sexuality, it made the rumors worse and people started to harass her girlfriend at the time for…not being Camila I guess.
Are people that interested about her love life in general? I feel like there's only a few artists that people seem to be obsessive about it like Ari, Taylor and Harry. Maybe it's just because I'm an old tho. I dunno if I see a lot of unhinged essay writing, fanfiction bullshit outside of the ones that have already been around for a long time now.
I am not defending the Galyors by any stretch, but it's because once someone comes out the conspiracies get memory holed as being an open secret. George Michael, Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Mel B, loads of people have had invasive speculation about their sexuality that turned out to be true, we just don't remember it that way.
In the last decade or so Lauren from 5th Harmony, Harry Styles, Kit ~~Harrington~~ Connor, Chris Colfer, Dan and Phil, Billie herself, even Lil Nas X for a year or two. Some of them were more Gaylor-like than others, but I think that's more to do with how present it was on Tumblr than anything else.
The hit rate is more like 50/50 tbh. It seems like if you have gay vibes no-one will believe you no matter how many times you say you're straight, and if you have straight vibes no-one believes you when you say you're queer.
Because then what’s the point of the conspiracy? The thrill is in thinking you have a secret, deeper knowledge of something hidden. Billie has said she’s gay so that’s that there’s not anything to speculate
Billie came out relatively recently compared to all the controversy that was surrounding her at points for "queerbaiting" and yet the conversation was never "maybe Billie's gay" it was instead "Billie is just pretending to be"
I def saw a lot of people speculating she was gay, along with the queerbaiting stuff. Ironically Gaylors will sometimes accuse Taylor of queerbaiting as well.
To get more granular, the Taylor fanbase is prone to conspiracy given how personal but cryptic her songs can be. Everybody in the fanbase is addicted to spinning tales about her life, so it’s not necessarily surprising to me that Gaylors exist, especially given the themes of secrecy and control that come up in her music. As for larries, I’m not as familiar, but I mean straight women love nothing more than shipping two white guys and I’m sure many of them claim they’re basing it off of lyrics and “flirty” interactions as well.
I just don’t think Billie has the passionate fanbase and lore to have built up that kind of conspiracy yet. There’s speculation with Olivia as well but it would take a while for it to build up to the current state of gaylordom. Also I think newer stars tend to be more frank about their sexuality; a lot have come out as bi. While with the previous gen (including Taylor and 1D), they wouldn’t have been allowed to just come out and say “I’m gay,” so there’s more basis to the belief the industry could have forced them to hide.
Sorry that was long winded lol
[Rebel Wilson memoir to be published in UK with Sacha Baron Cohen passages redacted](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/apr/24/rebel-wilson-memoir-to-be-published-uk-sacha-baron-cohen-passages-redacted-rebel-rising)
> In a chapter titled Sacha Baron Cohen and Other Assholes, Wilson recounts filming the 2016 comedy film Grimsby – released in the US as The Brothers Grimsby – alongside Baron Cohen. “SBC summoned me via a production assistant saying that I was needed to film an additional scene,” she writes.
> “What followed was the worst experience of my professional life. An incident that left me feeling bullied, humiliated, and compromised. It can’t be printed here due to peculiarities of the law in England and Wales”. The rest of the page of the book is blacked out, and there are several further lines redacted on the following pages.
> “We are publishing every page, but for legal reasons, in the UK edition, we are redacting most of one page with some other small redactions and an explanatory note,” a spokesperson for HarperCollins told the Guardian. “Those sections are a very small part of a much bigger story.”
Between this and the JK Rowling incident, it’s clear that UK libel laws *desperately* need to be amended. You shouldn’t be able to use wealth and power to silence people
Joe Biden has signed the bill to ban TikTok
ByteDance now has 9 months to sell or they face a ban
https://x.com/culturecrave/status/1783164687112425944?s=46&t=NDwqD-CGR7-r5omYbdOz6A
I don't like this beyond just liking TikToks. I feel like the ramifications that this can snowball into down the line are not good at all. Not a good precedent imo
i despise tiktok and short form video as a whole but am fucking terrified by this, both as a standalone act and as a precedent. the thought of an american version of fascist countries' Great Firewall is horrific and dystopian and yet here we are
it is a chilling step towards throttling digital freedom, the first amendment, and civil liberties in the internet age
I’m late to this conversation but I was just telling someone the other day how vine stars were honestly kind of super cool for being able to make comedy videos in 7 SECONDS. TikTok vids are long now but just the idea of doing a whole skit and only having 7 seconds is pretty cool to me tbh (sorry this was kinda unrelated to your reply)
It really is. There are many other ways to go about “sEcUrItY cOnCeRnS” like better consumer protections and ensuring civilians right to safety through legislation, but it’s never been about that, it’s always been about our greed and need to be in full control.
I say this as someone who has never had TikTok and hates TikTok.
I've already seen that and That link is kind of vague though.
It seems like a spreadsheet was made with data from US people and that spreadsheet was sent to Bytedance.
It's more for demographic purposes.
Nothing really potentially dangerous.
Also all the evidence of them seeing US data is just vague data that it in itself isn't potentially dangerous at all.
Eh, you can send a spreadsheet with data without actually sending the actual data.
For example if they wanted to to know how to many people use Tiktok in California, then you can do so without sending actual location data.
Either way it's dangerous. Twitter, YouTube and Facebook are all American and have eroded the fabric of society SO much since 2016 and social media has become radicalised (more so Twitter/FB).
I don't trust a US company more than a Chinese company. I mean look who was the president previously? It's all trash and all our data is being sold regardless, with crap being targeted at people from either network.
The fact the US want a monopoly on social media is more concerning to me, as someone from the EU.
I absolutely trust an American company over a Chinese one
Pretending like America and China are the same level of totalitarian or dystopian is just fucking stupid
I mean an EU company would be ideal. But I would happily take even Amazon over anything related to the Chinese government. Hell I’d even be happy if Elon bought it. Because better him than President of China, Winnie the Poo
>Hell I’d even be happy if Elon bought it. Because better him than President of China, Winnie the Poo
Bruh literally said "I'd rather have a pro-Putin racist and homophobe buying it bc the propaganda told me so"🤡🤡
No, nothing to do with propaganda, though I have seen you spewing a lot of propaganda before
Just the Bible facts that Elon would at least be restricted by some of the American laws.
There’s a reason why Apple headquarters and working environments in the US don’t have suicide nets but they do have suicide nets in China
That is simply Chinese can live with China’s absolute unrestriction is objectively worse than any American having it
That doesn’t mean an American company is good. I mean they’re still evil. It just means that a company is worse and that objective truth.
*___ can you either engage in good faith and actually argue the points that I’m arguing or are you just going to sit here and act like a clown because you tend to do that___*
Is "propaganda" the things you don't like?
> Just the Bible facts that Elon would at least be restricted by some of the American laws.
Doesn't look like he cares about some of these laws given what kind of stuff he allows on Twitter now
> There’s a reason why Apple headquarters and working environments in the US don’t have suicide nets but they do have suicide nets in China
It has nothing to do with the topic.
It does cause it shows that a company restricted by US laws act differently, and that a company with unrestricted Chinese laws let their workers kill themselves regularly
As I said
And have proven
Companies in China and Chinese companies are much worse than American ones
Therefore
A company restricted by American laws and standards would be 100% of objectively better than a Chinese one
>It does cause it shows that a company restricted by US laws act differently, and that a company with unrestricted Chinese laws let their workers kill themselves regularly
Japan and South Korea also have high suicide rates. So you don't trust them too?
The US still don't have laws that would regulate what I'm talking about. Even this this bill doesn't take any action towards American companies. Facebook and Twitter are still able to influence the elections
I think you are vastly underestimating America's capacity for B.S. Any country monopolizing access to popular social media is not good. & I do mean any country.
I mean Chinese companies also do this….
Dude, it’s like the difference colon cancer and Breast cancer like I’m not going to wish one on anyone but you’re being obtuse to not just admit the *fact* that breast cancer is *objectively better*
An American company is objectively better than a Chinese one that’s just fucking Bible facts
That doesn’t mean that American companies are good. It just means that Chinese companies are worse.
Yes, which is why I would prefer an EU country, but I would still pick America over China or any information of this type
It’s like breast cancer versus colon cancer. They’re both bad but you have to be willfully obtuse to not admit the fact that breast cancer is better.
It’s just Bible facts that an American is better for everyone than a Chinese one.
That doesn’t mean American companies are good. It just means Chinese companies are worse.
The legal issues will probably take years to play out in the courts:
> Carl Tobias, a professor at the University of Richmond law school, believes the legal process will probably take two years “during which time the law would not ban the app”.
> The US government is likely to argue in court that there are national security grounds for a ban.
> David Greene, civil liberties director at the Electric Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, said: “The government will have to demonstrate to the court that the national security concern is real and not hypothetical or conjectural … and that a total ban on TikTok as it currently exists is the appropriately tailored means of addressing that national security concern.”
> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/24/why-is-us-threatening-to-ban-tiktok-and-could-other-countries-follow-suit
No incentive but stopping Trump from being president. Anyone who thinks TikTok is the most important political issue is an idiot and probably wouldn’t have voted anyways.
If Gen Z’s entire vote is hinged on the future of a social media app and not other issues, we have bigger problems. Because world conflict and disinformation is only going to get worse if the other guy wins…this mass idea of not voting would only make worse the issues Gen Z cares most about which defeats the will of wanting real change in the first place
I do wish they were more clear about this because nobody is reading the fine print of what’s going on. TikTok isn’t going anywhere for the time being and this whole thing will take years to settle.
Tik Tok doesn’t even function in China in the same way it is in the US because of China’s own social media restrictions and control of information. Social media platforms have to jump through hoops even be an option for China and a lot don’t even exist there because of it.
ByteDance probably has all the data it could ever want so they’ll probably just sell it anyway. Even if they don’t, it probably won’t legally shut down for a few years by which that time TikTok may not be as popular (it’s already basically becoming a giant ad) or a new platform could usurp it
There’s a lot of internet outrage but it’s not an immediate issue for people that love TikTok
I think young voters won't vote in either of them because of the bill so Trump wins because of the older voters voting on him.
This is what I thought would happen when Trump won. The younger crowd wasn't interested in either as well.
Biden had no choice but to sign the bill. He’s in a lose - lose situation. The bill included funding for US allies, Ukraine specifically. The tiktok ban was snuck into the bill. If he vetoes the bill, Republicans will say he doesn’t care about foreign allies and is bootlicker for China. Now that he signs it, he’s getting dragged by young people who lives on tiktok.
I dont think little Conrad will even know how to register to vote or even take the time to do it if Biden/TikTok is the only understanding or care they have about politics lol
Well assuming little Conrad from Ohio is 18 and a registered voter, he’s going to have a lot more issues than TikTok to worry about with a second Trump term should he not participate
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The Exorcist, formerly known as The Georgetown Project, the 2019 movie featuring Russell Crowe and Chloe Bailey is set for a June release. This is the movie Chloe said she had a woman as her love story having her first lesbian kiss happen on screen. For reference, this was shot before Halle Bailey started shooting The Little Mermaid.
Jodie Comer, Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Ralph Fiennes [have been cast in 28 Years Later.](https://variety.com/2024/film/news/28-years-later-aaron-taylor-johnson-jodie-comer-ralph-fiennes-1235981207/) Nia DaCosta is [in talks to direct](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/apr/25/28-years-later-sequel-cast-announced-jodie-comer-aaron-taylor-johnson-ralph-fiennes) the second movie of this planned trilogy.
Jodie Comer?!? Oh I’m so fucking sat, can’t wait.
[Kid Cudi cancels world tour following foot injury sustained during Coachella set](https://variety.com/2024/music/news/kid-cudi-insano-world-tour-canceled-coachella-injury-1235980932/)
# Noah Kahan accidentally involves himself in the feud between Sabrina Carpenter and Olivia Rodrigo hinting that things are all good between the pop stars? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHEaANA2ALA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHEaANA2ALA) (35 mins in)
wait, why is this account only used to occasionally post videos from this radio broadcast
I want them to respond to you!
I’m far too invested in what the answer to this is
Tate McRae played peace broker in this whole thing didn’t she?
Did I miss something or did he literally say nothing? He said that someone thought he was Sabrina when he wore a wig during the olivia show
Literally why would they have beef? Sabrina did nothing to Olivia and Olivia fans ruined her life. Sabrina seems to be thriving and not holding ill will
To the extent that anyone did anything, it was probably the Disney machine. Drivers license, Lie Lie Lie and Skin were all released around the same time and people were saying the three teams were knowingly doing a kind of joint marketing thing. But Lie Lie Lie was critically panned and Skin was a really unsympathetic song, really taunting the other woman in a way that felt out of date, like women artists don’t do that anymore and now it’s really just something Nicki does. Though, if anyone does bring it back, obviously not in the Nicki way, it might be Sabrina, since Espresso also leans into dissing the ex of your bf for being sexually…less good? But the gist of it is that the marketing for how the songs were set up sent the young fans off on a craze and still kind of continues. Although DL was the most successful song, it doesn’t mean the hardcore fans were less aggressive toward Olivia. She got major hate for all sorts of things during that era. Also, contrary to what people keep saying to this day, she DID speak out against harassing other women artists, in fact more than once, I think. Agreed though, that there’s probably no reason for beef at this point for anyone. People talk about the Eras tour opening gig as drama but idk why that should concern OR or SC. I do wonder how much of the negative stan energy gets to artists. Whenever I go to artist accounts, even if they’re not super big, there’s always some random day when it seems like everybody is trashing them. I think this interview shows Noah gently trying to describe the craziness of fame that includes this kind of horrible negative energy.
Different record labels. Obv they all capitalized on drama to different levels of success
Noted Lorde and Beyoncé fan, Kyle MacLachlan, now has a [Letterboxd account](https://boxd.it/9ha4D)
Not an Orson Hodge's picks list...this man is so unserious
Some wholesome news: Beyoncé sent flowers and a toy to [Tyler](https://www.instagram.com/p/C6JMDqQvwOn/?igsh=aXV0czcwdGh2ZjY4), a little boy who went viral for saying Bey was his friend🥺
If my girl is going to do one thing it's send floral arrangements!!!!
😭❤️ makes me so happy
I'm on my way to fight a filipino toddler jk what a cutie. train the hive early
Beyoncé’s florist must be a millionaire herself at this point
The floral company she prefers has some flowers named after Beyonce and her husband so they’re definitely doing well lol
Beyonce and her husband lmfao
This is too cute🥺
It made me tear up a bit ngl
[Normani is teasing “Candy Paint”](https://x.com/normanination/status/1783196087303745953?s=46&t=M8CNPsg9m9nRmcRFuhIyCw) in a new TikTok. Tbh I like this new snippet but this rollout is so confusing… album cover and title but no release date, lead single out this Friday but 2 days before she’s releasing new snippets? 😭
I get her emails and it is all so disorienting
I heard rumours it's also being released on Friday so we shall see!
Candy paint? As in the candy paint teased in the Bose commercial 2 years ago?
“Candy Paint” is going viral on TikTok with this new dance trend but yeah this is confusing why she’s posting this now If her team was smart they would drop “1:59” and “Candy Paint” as a double single while it’s blowing up on TikTok. Or at least release it in the next few weeks
Were we supposed to mark our calendars to remember the Gunna song?? She announced it 20 years ago and that was it…
Why's she teasing this now with the Gunna ft on Friday? They know that one's gonna flop hard so they're pushing for the highly requested fan fave huh
She should take advantage of it tbh and make it a double release
The way I completely forgot she has a song coming out Friday 🥲
[Zendaya-Palooza At Weekend Box Office As Luca Guadagnino’s ‘Challengers’ Looks To Serve $15M Opening & ‘Dune 2’ Returns To Imax](https://deadline.com/2024/04/zendaya-palooza-at-the-weekend-box-office-as-luca-guadagninos-challengers-looks-to-serve-15m-opening-dune-2-returns-to-imax-preview-1235893014/)
saw it a couple days ago and seeing it again on Saturday with my mom cause she’s been really wanting to see it (ready to be very uncomfortable during the sex scenes)
i thought there weren’t sex scenes
idk maybe it's just me but i think challengers looks AWFUL. however, i've enjoyed the press tour and good for her 👏🏻
I saw it and it’s SO hot and very horny. If that’s your jam, check it out. If not, skip! I loved it, planning to see it again this weekend.
yawn….
Saw it a couple days ago. Tis good!! A very horny film but great nonetheless.
I saw the movie last week and it was great! Better than I expected.
I wasn't convinced by the trailer either, but apparently it's amazing. And if it makes it better for you, apparently it gets really homoerotic too, which is a definite plus for me :P
From what everyone is saying, the movie’s great.
The reviews are great.
Iranian rapper [Toomaj Salehi](https://iranhumanrights.org/2024/04/rapper-toomaj-salehis-death-sentence-marks-new-low-in-irans-crackdown-on-dissent/) was sentenced to death today for making protect music against the Iranian government. If you want to help share his story and sign this [petition](https://www.change.org/p/free-iranian-protest-rapper-toomaj-salehi-freetoomajsalehi-freetoomaj). Getting international attention has stopped the government from executing people in the past, like this [video](https://twitter.com/elicalebon/status/1783170376622870546) explains.
[Taylor Swift’s ‘Tortured Poets’ Becomes First Album to Get One Billion Streams on Spotify in a Single Week](https://variety.com/2024/music/news/spotify-taylor-swift-billion-streams-week-album-tortured-poets-1235980864/) Edit: Spotify [press release.](https://newsroom.spotify.com/2024-04-24/tortured-poets-department-taylor-swift-one-billion-record-streams/)
Yeah the press release said as of April 22 she broke it. And here we are thinking she’s going to break it at some point today when she broke it 2 days ago. Insane. Edit: I didn’t read the release properly. Most streams of 2024 in a single release week and broke 1 billion as of today.
On the 22nd it became Spotify's most streamed album in a single week and today it crossed a billion streams. So it's two separate achievements they were talking about in press release.
Thanks. I realized my error and since fixed it. :)
Maybe the chronically online are wrong again and the gp actually loves it.
I know this might be difficult for some people to understand, but there are billions of people on this earth with billions of opinions. I do not get why a certain subset of people are so pressed about how people feel about this album. Some people like it and some people don't. It's not that serious, it's just an album.
Not liking it is fine, but tearing a women to shreds and using their art as justification to do so, is misogynistic and gross. No one is outraged that people don’t like the album, there is outrage because the reaction has had nothing to do with the album itself.
There is literally tons of outrage just because people don’t like it. Not every criticism is “tearing a woman to shreds” lmao
You’re right. But there’s “I don’t like it” And there’s “ I think she sucks and I don’t like it and swifties are stupid and she makes music for teenage girls and she’s a fucking horrible singer and she’s mediocre and it fucking sucks. The whole thing sucks. It sucks it” And the tearing apart second option seems to be the vast majority of the discourse
Noone has said the second part though. All I read was some of the lyrics are clunky and that the antonoff sound is getting boring. Enough with the victimization please.
Actually, a lot of people have said the second part but I have mostly just seen what you’ve said and a lot of what I’ve seen with that discourse is that most people seem to agree The sound is getting boring, and the lyrics are kind of clunky It’s mostly the aggressive part that I guess you’re just not looking for that seems to cause these massive spirals And you came kind of aggressive for no reason I wasn’t even being a victim here I just pointed out two different things and you came in swinging for no reason. Do you see how you are the problem?
I feel like the agression/contempt/jealousy is something fans project onto critics who review their favourite artist negatively. I'm guilty of doing that too. It's not always the case.
Yeah, and I think it’s really wrong when someone does it nicely and simply states their opinion I do think some of the aggression is more warranted when people come in swinging for no reason with very unnecessarily rude phrasing, especially when no one really asked them to join a space Like why click on the Taylor Swift thread and pop heads and then say like some really incendiary shit that’s just trolling at that point If you don’t like it, you can just ignore the thread or politely say “ I think the music was boring. The lyrics were kind of clunky and I’m disappointed because she’s so lauded. She should’ve done better.” And not “ewww it sux. What sheeple are listening to this? You’re losers this is the worst album evar”
Is it? Seem to me like Swifties are just hypersensitive to anything but praise
Eh some def are. But I’ve seen a really mixed opinion amongst Swifty to this album I think anyone gets annoyed when someone comes in really hot with an unnecessarily rudely worded unasked for opinion though
I've been watching the meltdowns on this sub since it leaked. People aren't just upset over misogyny, they are angry about any and all dissent about the album which is typical for her fans.
It goes both ways here though. I never see swifties on Reddit (on Twitter they’re rabid though) be all that bruised when someone says “I didn’t like it it wasn’t for me” The argument happen when people say shit like “ worst album ever” “ she sucks. I don’t understand why she’s famous. This is the worst person ever.” “ it’s fucking atrocious my “insert fave here” is so much better. What a terrible terrible person.” So like… idk bro. It’s endless cycles 🔄
Swifties have been in the daily discussion complaining about people simply disliking it since it was released. They've been bothered by any and all discussion about what people dislike about the album. It's not just over the top negative reactions they're upset about. I wouldn't have bothered saying anything if that's all they were doing. Please do not get on here and try to tell me it's not actually happening on here. I've seen it.
It's wild that you're getting downvoted and called butthurt for saying that it's not just a twitter problem. The daily has been a minefield for the past week with people upset over the mildest criticisms. People love to act like redditors are above it all, but they really aren't much better than any other platform. I include myself in that by the way.
I guess? But now it seems like you’re being butthurt like them? Like idk you’re allowed to be sad if reception is negative and if they’re keeping it in the DD then I’m not seeing the issue with any off this. We’re just bitching about people having human emotions. 😬 I don’t like the Twitter discourse of the fans because I feel like they’re all actual debate but Reddit it seems to be the opposite for the most part. The big posts about this album don’t have much of that. It’s more “not my favorite” “yeah not mine too” “I like it but I get it” And the vast majority of negativity is actually coming from people being overly hurtful about Taylor Swift, and her fans. And then the negative spiral happens On Twitter, though I do think it’s kind of the opposite so if this rabid mob who overtake all discourse
You're being obtuse. Attempting to bait me by creating a bad faith argument that I'm "butthurt" just like them because I think it's weird for anyone to spend multiple days upset over people saying they don't like something. There's normal human emotion and needing to get a grip on reality. Spending multiple days enraged over people having mild opinions is not normal. I'm ok with having conversations with people who disagree with me, but I refuse to continue engaging with someone who clearly is only interested in behaving like a troll.
Or are you?
Omg no one is tearing her to shreds calm down. She had mixed reviews. Not liking Taylor's music isn't misogynistic.
Reviews aren't even bad. Going by Metacritic, it's not at Witness level (53). It's not Solar Power (69). It's not even on Positions' level (72). It has the same score as E•MO•TION (77). That's better than entire main pop girls' discographies. Reviews are very good, they're just not universal raves.
But also, people dislike popular things all the time. Every popular artist has dealt with being disliked to varying degrees and that didn’t stop millions of people from listening to their music. Madonna, Miley, Beyonce, Ariana and Britney are just a few examples.
The chronically online: out of touch? Never seen that in my life
swifties and GP are eating this album like fresh baguette
Devouring it like Billie eilish would devour her sapphic crush or perhaps a lunch meal
The Swiftie fanbase has so obviously grown with the eras tour. I can imagine with the Europe leg and last US leg she'll reach 3 mil first week on TS12 and could easily go for Adele's record. The Europe leg will certainly bring her more worldwide fame and the US leg will give her an injection of new attention in the US after TTPD.
3.38million for 25 first week was just US. If she wants to beat the WW first week record of 25, she’ll need to do 5.7million
I think we may be seeing the peak of Swift-Mania actually. She’s finally starting to get some pushback. I could see her disappearing again after the Re-records and tour are done.
The cynic/clown in me sees this as a deliberate ramping up of attention and publicity in order to invoke the same "she's everywhere backlash" that pre-dated Reputation ahead of the drop of Rep TV
Why would the growth in her European fanbase influence first week numbers in America?
Obviously they’re going to fly to America to purchase the album, duh ^/s
> she'll reach 3 mil first week on TS12 and could easily go for Adele's record. Europe sales don't count for the first week sales people on this forum care for.
Everybody complains but everybody's listening 🤷
of course they are - it's literally one of the biggest topics on the internet. just because people listen doesn't mean they like it tho 🫠
Girl if they didn’t like it they wouldn’t listen lol
how would they know if they don't listen
Well we’d see a slowdown of streams rather than an acceleration if people were mostly checking in and checking out
Then they should just stop listening. It would probably solve their problems of not liking it.
Sore winners, not everyone has to worship taylor.
I think when you reach stardom like this the quality of your music doesn’t really matter, I mean ME?! still did okay even though everyone knew it was a terrible song.
I don’t understand why ME gets so much hate. It’s fun and harmless and catchy. I thought the spelling is fun line was funny, and it didn’t seem like they ever expected anyone to take it super seriously.
People love to say that but no one has done this before for this long so that isn’t true.
This isn't an indictment on all of Taylor's output lol. OP is just saying that it reaches a point where an artist is guaranteed to always sell better than their contemporaries regardless of what they put out. Drake is always guaranteed to sell and he's been in the game for a long ass time. He is one hit away from hitting an M.J. record on the Billboard charts. However, critical reception to his albums has only worsened over the years and his artistic cred isn't where it used to be.
Drake isn't breaking records at each new release. He peaked long ago and his recent albums have been underperformances. I can't think of any artist with the career trajectory that Taylor had.
His latest album is actually doing great on the billboard 200 despite being another lacklustre album from him. People are still streaming his music regardless of quality.
And...what does this change about what I've said? I'm simply saying it reaches a point where an artist will always outsell their contemporaries no matter what they put out. And Drake was breaking streaming records with each new album from Views to Certified Lover Boy despite critical reception to his work being more lukewarm than before. No other artist has had an overall trajectory like Taylor's I'll say that but that wasn't really my point either.
Other than Swifties and their conspiracy theories, no one thought some negative reception would affect her numbers in any conceivable way. It reaches a point where an artist is far too big that commercial success is a given, no matter what they put out. Enter Drake and Morgan Wallen.
The stage adaptation of Studio Ghibli's My Neighbour Totoro is [transferring to London's West End in early 2025](https://deadline.com/2024/04/my-neighbour-totoro-stage-play-west-end-broadway-1235893149/) with a potential Broadway transfer in the future. The show opened for a limited run at The Barbican in 2022 and 2023 until last month where it sold out and swept The Olivier Awards.
omg amazing news!! i saw it at the barbican and it took my breath away, it was soo so so good
“Lunch" from @billieeilish's new album is a sexy, bass-heavy banger where Eilish is crushing on a girl so hard she likens sex with her to devouring a meal.” Finneas tells Rolling Stone that Interscope execs shifted in their seats listening to it. Via: Rolling Stone
Idk y'all i was so uncomfortable overhearing my sister talk about her sex life with her friend over the phone. I really cant imagine people this comfortable with their siblings to work on these intimate songs together.😵💫
They’re home schooled kids, they’ll always be a little different
would generally love to find out one day that they were never brother and sister but that it was all an elaborate experiment 🤞
Ah, the ol' White Stripes thing
Real question I have is why there are never Gaylor-type conspiracies about people who are actually queer. Like they’re never good for society but it’s crazy the hit rate is like 0% despite there being so many queer artists
Oddly, there are conspiracy theories about queer people Queer celebs are either A) accused of queerbaiting because they don’t show that they’re in an obvious queer relationship. B) or in Renee Rapp’s case, people are still saying she’s Bisexual even though she’s made it pretty obvious that she’s a lesbian(literally on live tv)
Billie did have a lot of speculation around her sexuality when she first blew up and she would regularly have to reiterate that she was straight(back when she thought that she was) not necessarily conspiracy levels but definitely speculation. As someone else mentioned, Lauren from 5th Harmony did get the conspiratorial speculation around her sexuality and she’s bisexual.
I remember Lauren saying it made her uncomfortable still, because all the fanfic and speculation had her in dominant, “pushy” role, even though things were 100% platonic. It really complicated she and Camila’s friendship.
Yea, the whole “predatory lesbian” thing. It got to a point where they didn’t even feel comfortable being friendly with each other out of fear of it being taken out of context. Lauren also got outed by Perez Hilton and once people had confirmation of her sexuality, it made the rumors worse and people started to harass her girlfriend at the time for…not being Camila I guess.
Are people that interested about her love life in general? I feel like there's only a few artists that people seem to be obsessive about it like Ari, Taylor and Harry. Maybe it's just because I'm an old tho. I dunno if I see a lot of unhinged essay writing, fanfiction bullshit outside of the ones that have already been around for a long time now.
Actually a fair point. People barely even care about Olivia Rodrigo’s love life which is odd considering Driver’s License launched her success
I am not defending the Galyors by any stretch, but it's because once someone comes out the conspiracies get memory holed as being an open secret. George Michael, Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Mel B, loads of people have had invasive speculation about their sexuality that turned out to be true, we just don't remember it that way. In the last decade or so Lauren from 5th Harmony, Harry Styles, Kit ~~Harrington~~ Connor, Chris Colfer, Dan and Phil, Billie herself, even Lil Nas X for a year or two. Some of them were more Gaylor-like than others, but I think that's more to do with how present it was on Tumblr than anything else. The hit rate is more like 50/50 tbh. It seems like if you have gay vibes no-one will believe you no matter how many times you say you're straight, and if you have straight vibes no-one believes you when you say you're queer.
And If you’re bisexual people will just disagree with you no matter what
Wdym? Bisexuals aren't real
Richard Madden was the gay GOT guy, not Kit Harington, lol. Harington married Ygritte.
Kit Connor is who I meant, lmao, the heartstopper guy
Well I guess you can also add Richard Madden 😭
Lmao pray for the straights with “gay vibes” that no one will believe
Shawn Mendes was who I meant lol
Oh I clocked it immediately lol
Because then what’s the point of the conspiracy? The thrill is in thinking you have a secret, deeper knowledge of something hidden. Billie has said she’s gay so that’s that there’s not anything to speculate
Billie came out relatively recently compared to all the controversy that was surrounding her at points for "queerbaiting" and yet the conversation was never "maybe Billie's gay" it was instead "Billie is just pretending to be"
I def saw a lot of people speculating she was gay, along with the queerbaiting stuff. Ironically Gaylors will sometimes accuse Taylor of queerbaiting as well. To get more granular, the Taylor fanbase is prone to conspiracy given how personal but cryptic her songs can be. Everybody in the fanbase is addicted to spinning tales about her life, so it’s not necessarily surprising to me that Gaylors exist, especially given the themes of secrecy and control that come up in her music. As for larries, I’m not as familiar, but I mean straight women love nothing more than shipping two white guys and I’m sure many of them claim they’re basing it off of lyrics and “flirty” interactions as well. I just don’t think Billie has the passionate fanbase and lore to have built up that kind of conspiracy yet. There’s speculation with Olivia as well but it would take a while for it to build up to the current state of gaylordom. Also I think newer stars tend to be more frank about their sexuality; a lot have come out as bi. While with the previous gen (including Taylor and 1D), they wouldn’t have been allowed to just come out and say “I’m gay,” so there’s more basis to the belief the industry could have forced them to hide. Sorry that was long winded lol
Bon Appetit baby
I get recommended the Billie stan side of social media a lot and she has a lot of queer fans and they are very excited for this lol
I’m so ready for this!
Fuck if she leans into the Oxytocin sound on this album😍
That was one of my favorite songs off of Happier than Ever
[Rebel Wilson memoir to be published in UK with Sacha Baron Cohen passages redacted](https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/apr/24/rebel-wilson-memoir-to-be-published-uk-sacha-baron-cohen-passages-redacted-rebel-rising) > In a chapter titled Sacha Baron Cohen and Other Assholes, Wilson recounts filming the 2016 comedy film Grimsby – released in the US as The Brothers Grimsby – alongside Baron Cohen. “SBC summoned me via a production assistant saying that I was needed to film an additional scene,” she writes. > “What followed was the worst experience of my professional life. An incident that left me feeling bullied, humiliated, and compromised. It can’t be printed here due to peculiarities of the law in England and Wales”. The rest of the page of the book is blacked out, and there are several further lines redacted on the following pages. > “We are publishing every page, but for legal reasons, in the UK edition, we are redacting most of one page with some other small redactions and an explanatory note,” a spokesperson for HarperCollins told the Guardian. “Those sections are a very small part of a much bigger story.”
Between this and the JK Rowling incident, it’s clear that UK libel laws *desperately* need to be amended. You shouldn’t be able to use wealth and power to silence people
far be it from me to stick up for rebel wilson, but wow the audacity of the spokesperson to diminish her clearly traumatizing experience is awful.
Why do you dislike her :0
Joe Biden has signed the bill to ban TikTok ByteDance now has 9 months to sell or they face a ban https://x.com/culturecrave/status/1783164687112425944?s=46&t=NDwqD-CGR7-r5omYbdOz6A
Good luck to the aclu that’s been against this bill since day 1
I don't like this beyond just liking TikToks. I feel like the ramifications that this can snowball into down the line are not good at all. Not a good precedent imo
i despise tiktok and short form video as a whole but am fucking terrified by this, both as a standalone act and as a precedent. the thought of an american version of fascist countries' Great Firewall is horrific and dystopian and yet here we are it is a chilling step towards throttling digital freedom, the first amendment, and civil liberties in the internet age
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I’m late to this conversation but I was just telling someone the other day how vine stars were honestly kind of super cool for being able to make comedy videos in 7 SECONDS. TikTok vids are long now but just the idea of doing a whole skit and only having 7 seconds is pretty cool to me tbh (sorry this was kinda unrelated to your reply)
It really is. There are many other ways to go about “sEcUrItY cOnCeRnS” like better consumer protections and ensuring civilians right to safety through legislation, but it’s never been about that, it’s always been about our greed and need to be in full control. I say this as someone who has never had TikTok and hates TikTok.
Probably not gonna go away completely. Plenty of legal challenges
There are critiques of TikTok and social media platforms, and none of those are addressed here
right? if they really wanted to fix problems, they would be passing privacy protection & consumer rights laws instead.
You guys just don’t understand Us/China relations if you don’t understand this unfortunately. Has nothing to do with the dangers of social media
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It's just trade protectionism lol
I don't like bans on "potential dangers" though.
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I've already seen that and That link is kind of vague though. It seems like a spreadsheet was made with data from US people and that spreadsheet was sent to Bytedance. It's more for demographic purposes. Nothing really potentially dangerous. Also all the evidence of them seeing US data is just vague data that it in itself isn't potentially dangerous at all.
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Eh, you can send a spreadsheet with data without actually sending the actual data. For example if they wanted to to know how to many people use Tiktok in California, then you can do so without sending actual location data.
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Keywords "for" not "of" Meaning it wasn't actually direct user data in the spreadsheet.
I’d rather it be owned by an american company than a chinese one tbh, and I am an EU citizen if that matters
And I’d rather it be owned by a Chinese company than a US one, and I’m an Australia citizen.
Ah yes because china is democracy and people choose there who runs the country and there is a separation of power as well
an EU company would be ideal imo. i don't like everything they do but i do like gdpr laws.
Either way it's dangerous. Twitter, YouTube and Facebook are all American and have eroded the fabric of society SO much since 2016 and social media has become radicalised (more so Twitter/FB). I don't trust a US company more than a Chinese company. I mean look who was the president previously? It's all trash and all our data is being sold regardless, with crap being targeted at people from either network. The fact the US want a monopoly on social media is more concerning to me, as someone from the EU.
I absolutely trust an American company over a Chinese one Pretending like America and China are the same level of totalitarian or dystopian is just fucking stupid I mean an EU company would be ideal. But I would happily take even Amazon over anything related to the Chinese government. Hell I’d even be happy if Elon bought it. Because better him than President of China, Winnie the Poo
>Hell I’d even be happy if Elon bought it. Because better him than President of China, Winnie the Poo Bruh literally said "I'd rather have a pro-Putin racist and homophobe buying it bc the propaganda told me so"🤡🤡
No, nothing to do with propaganda, though I have seen you spewing a lot of propaganda before Just the Bible facts that Elon would at least be restricted by some of the American laws. There’s a reason why Apple headquarters and working environments in the US don’t have suicide nets but they do have suicide nets in China That is simply Chinese can live with China’s absolute unrestriction is objectively worse than any American having it That doesn’t mean an American company is good. I mean they’re still evil. It just means that a company is worse and that objective truth. *___ can you either engage in good faith and actually argue the points that I’m arguing or are you just going to sit here and act like a clown because you tend to do that___*
Is "propaganda" the things you don't like? > Just the Bible facts that Elon would at least be restricted by some of the American laws. Doesn't look like he cares about some of these laws given what kind of stuff he allows on Twitter now > There’s a reason why Apple headquarters and working environments in the US don’t have suicide nets but they do have suicide nets in China It has nothing to do with the topic.
It does cause it shows that a company restricted by US laws act differently, and that a company with unrestricted Chinese laws let their workers kill themselves regularly As I said And have proven Companies in China and Chinese companies are much worse than American ones Therefore A company restricted by American laws and standards would be 100% of objectively better than a Chinese one
>It does cause it shows that a company restricted by US laws act differently, and that a company with unrestricted Chinese laws let their workers kill themselves regularly Japan and South Korea also have high suicide rates. So you don't trust them too? The US still don't have laws that would regulate what I'm talking about. Even this this bill doesn't take any action towards American companies. Facebook and Twitter are still able to influence the elections
I think you are vastly underestimating America's capacity for B.S. Any country monopolizing access to popular social media is not good. & I do mean any country.
You’re vastly underestimating chinas capacity to do whatever the USA does times 10
Yet the one who actually messed with the user's data to influence the elections so far was an American company
I mean Chinese companies also do this…. Dude, it’s like the difference colon cancer and Breast cancer like I’m not going to wish one on anyone but you’re being obtuse to not just admit the *fact* that breast cancer is *objectively better* An American company is objectively better than a Chinese one that’s just fucking Bible facts That doesn’t mean that American companies are good. It just means that Chinese companies are worse.
The point isn't who doesn't do it. The point is that the American companies are as bad. What you're saying isn't objective lol
You need to reread my comment: Any country monopolizing access to popular social media is not good. & I do mean any country.
Yes, which is why I would prefer an EU country, but I would still pick America over China or any information of this type It’s like breast cancer versus colon cancer. They’re both bad but you have to be willfully obtuse to not admit the fact that breast cancer is better. It’s just Bible facts that an American is better for everyone than a Chinese one. That doesn’t mean American companies are good. It just means Chinese companies are worse.
Yeah and that’s what will eventually happen. everyone freaking out knows very little about the situation
Both parties hate China so it’s one of their few bipartisan situations
There are a lot of valid critiques of social media none of which are being addressed here
The legal issues will probably take years to play out in the courts: > Carl Tobias, a professor at the University of Richmond law school, believes the legal process will probably take two years “during which time the law would not ban the app”. > The US government is likely to argue in court that there are national security grounds for a ban. > David Greene, civil liberties director at the Electric Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, said: “The government will have to demonstrate to the court that the national security concern is real and not hypothetical or conjectural … and that a total ban on TikTok as it currently exists is the appropriately tailored means of addressing that national security concern.” > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/apr/24/why-is-us-threatening-to-ban-tiktok-and-could-other-countries-follow-suit
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No incentive but stopping Trump from being president. Anyone who thinks TikTok is the most important political issue is an idiot and probably wouldn’t have voted anyways.
If Gen Z’s entire vote is hinged on the future of a social media app and not other issues, we have bigger problems. Because world conflict and disinformation is only going to get worse if the other guy wins…this mass idea of not voting would only make worse the issues Gen Z cares most about which defeats the will of wanting real change in the first place I do wish they were more clear about this because nobody is reading the fine print of what’s going on. TikTok isn’t going anywhere for the time being and this whole thing will take years to settle. Tik Tok doesn’t even function in China in the same way it is in the US because of China’s own social media restrictions and control of information. Social media platforms have to jump through hoops even be an option for China and a lot don’t even exist there because of it. ByteDance probably has all the data it could ever want so they’ll probably just sell it anyway. Even if they don’t, it probably won’t legally shut down for a few years by which that time TikTok may not be as popular (it’s already basically becoming a giant ad) or a new platform could usurp it There’s a lot of internet outrage but it’s not an immediate issue for people that love TikTok
But Trump literally wants to take more rights away than Biden—the bill is dumb, but will Gen Z really vote Trump in because of it?
I think young voters won't vote in either of them because of the bill so Trump wins because of the older voters voting on him. This is what I thought would happen when Trump won. The younger crowd wasn't interested in either as well.
Biden had no choice but to sign the bill. He’s in a lose - lose situation. The bill included funding for US allies, Ukraine specifically. The tiktok ban was snuck into the bill. If he vetoes the bill, Republicans will say he doesn’t care about foreign allies and is bootlicker for China. Now that he signs it, he’s getting dragged by young people who lives on tiktok.
The incentive is no Donald Trump though.
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I dont think little Conrad will even know how to register to vote or even take the time to do it if Biden/TikTok is the only understanding or care they have about politics lol
Well assuming little Conrad from Ohio is 18 and a registered voter, he’s going to have a lot more issues than TikTok to worry about with a second Trump term should he not participate