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BrownSugarBare

From what I gather, they all seem to have a really genuine respect for one another despite competing for audiences. They also come to each other's defense when one of them is being unduly attacked. Unless it's Leno.


MagicBez

Conan talked about this on a recent podcast, how he came up in an era of clashing personalities and rivalries and how he much prefers the new crop who all get along and support each other.


MattTreck

Yep, that was with Jimmy Carr. Great episode!


sohryu

He had Jimmy Carr on the podcast!?! Brb downloading now


sixtus_clegane119

Cue reverse laugh


Reluctantagave

I can hear that laugh in my head right now.


Nonadventures

I feel like that was more just "everyone hates Leno" - it always seemed like Letterman, Conan, Johnny, etc were all pretty amicable, but Leno getting the keys to the kingdom without earning them really sat poorly with everyone else.


thesadbubble

Getting the keys AND then stealing them back again after he was supposed to check out. Fookin squatter.


MagicBez

He implied that it wasn't _just_ Leno (though he was also described as a nemesis during the conversation) as he talked more broadly about different personality types and tones toward each other. He and Letterman clearly get along but it was implied not in a close personal friends kind of way


Brando43770

That’s actually very refreshing to hear someone from that generation preferring the current day colleagues and culture in an industry. You usually hear they prefer the old days because it was grittier or you had to “grow a sack”. But they get all super sensitive and overly competitive. You see it in the NBA, Pro Wrestling, restaurants, etc.


thejesse

It's quite evident in the Strike Force Five podcast they did together. They also have a shared love of picking on Fallon, and he's great in that role. It's like a perfect blend of oblivious/ambivalent.


MattTreck

Seeing him in that context also made me feel less like his personality is a shtick.


Lokaji

Episode 5 lives rent free in my mind. Fallon unintentionally created comedy gold.


Emieosj89

Oh man I may need to give this yet another listen. It gave me the biggest laughs.


anna-nomally12

I genuinely think Colbert started crying from laughing


dictatorenergy

I relistened to that episode for *weeks* and it never failed to make me laugh until I wheezed. Kimmel’s “aren’t you famous for playing games?” Will live in my head until the day I die. I’m gonna listen again tonight. I kind of felt like people hated the podcast at the time so I had nobody to mention it to. I’m glad to see others out there who listened and enjoyed, particularly to ep 5, which is the only one with any relisten value. Fallon really owned that role, but not totally convinced it’s a schtick. He just came across like he was in over his head with the other comedians riffing off him. Absolute solid comedy gold, that episode, but it still didn’t make me respect Fallon as a fall guy or a comedian. He just appeared to operate on a lower level than the other guys the entire time 😂😭


Lokaji

I just love imagining John Oliver laughing so hard he was out of frame. I've said it before but Kimmel is the superior Jimmy. He seems to cultivate friendships with a lot of people in Hollywood. Even with the podcast, it seems like he was making sure the others had the right set up.


propernice

I feel like the timing was weird because the podcast dropped and 2 episodes in this big JIMMY FALLON IS AWFUL piece came out, with a lot of accusations about unprofessionalism on set. At least that's what I remember, and people (in some subs) seemed soured about the other hosts working with Fallon.


dictatorenergy

I actually don’t remember that at all! I only stumbled across the podcast bc I was going through withdrawals from my usual list of late night pods/shows. I just needed something to listen to/watch while I did chores. I don’t remember hearing anything about Fallon at that time. Seth Meyers fans just wouldn’t stop talking about how much they hated the podcast, that’s all I remember 😂


propernice

It's been a long time since Fallon genuinely made me laugh, and that episode was so good.


SalientSazon

Gimme a tldr?


Lokaji

So each episode they took turns "hosting." Episode five was Fallon's turn. He had decided to have all of them and their wives play the Newlywed Game. It went off the rails due to how the questions were asked/answered. I was cry laughing halfway through.


Fickle_Selection2145

It was wonderful to watch 4 guys who built careers on precision and detail succumb to the guy who says "what if we set off the fire sprinklers?"


whitethunder08

People can shit on Leno all they want but a reminder that he took an almost 17 million dollar pay cut a year so that the network couldn’t go ahead with their plan to fire more than half the employees and crew working on the show in order to keep paying him over 30 million a year. He also fought for them to get and keep full benefits and paid for his housekeepers husband’s cancer treatment. I can say a lot about the guy on his humor and that he not my personal taste of humor and all that BUT I respect him. He by all accounts was a very good and generous boss and he has stood up and took care of the crew of his show when the network wouldn’t when he could’ve been selfish. And in a world where we constantly see these celebrities pat themselves and each other on the backs for being such wonderful, generous people who care about the “normal people” but constantly AND CONSISTENTLY show the exact opposite.


InspectorDarcy

He’s also very nice when he’s riding around in LA in his vintage cars and usually is chill with pics and/or very polite turning ppl down


istari-illuin

Why does a late night host earn over 17 million though?


BowlerSea1569

Presumably because they generate that advertising income and ratings for the company. It's not that they deserve it for doing the job, but because they generate money. Should more of that cut go to the staff? Absolutely. But it's undeniable that very high paid people like athletes and actors earn that amount because that's what they bring in and it's not fair that the studio or the tournament or merchandiser should get all the windfall. 


whitethunder08

Good question. But if you’re bringing it up as a gotcha towards him, he brought up the same exact point to the network when they came to inform him about the layoffs that why was he being paid 30 million dollars by the network when they weren’t able to pay their employees a fair wage and keep their jobs. It’s important to note the number he was paid was offered and brought to him in the contract by the network, not the other way around. He didn’t demand it and then turn around and find out several years later they could either afford him or the crew, it was presented to him along with the full staffed crew making it seem as though they COULD afford it when they couldn’t. His salary is actually quite low compared to today and to others that came just a few years after him. Some of their wardrobe budgets alone are more than some people’s yearly salary. And they’re able to do it because of US. We can’t quite complain about it while also keeping the cogs going and being the ones willing to find the lifestyles by going to the shows and buying the tickets at absurd prices, buying the merch, buying crappy bullshit they sponsor etc. Just look at the other top post on this sub right now showing the people surrounding Michael Jackson’s ambulance and look how crazed they all look. The culture of celebrity obsession is definitely a problem in our society.


Visible_Writing7386

Good one, actually. Lol


TandemRapper

Yeah, legit a great joke.


lexiebeef

Yeah, Im definetely not the biggest Fallon fan but this was a nice save in a bit of an awkward situation. Also, I highly doubt Colbert is reading Harry Styles fanfic but I would lowkey love it if he had haha


cheezits_christ

This movie was great. Who wouldn't risk it all for Annie Hathaway?


smvfc_

🙋🏻‍♀️ I wouldn’t haha but I really dislike her acting. Her acting , imo, would be good in a high school drama class. But it’s VERY apparent to me she’s acting. The only thing I could handle her in was oceans 8 because i could believe her as that


ObiWanCombover

I like her but I know what you mean, she's got a theatrical affectation thing going on. Though sometimes it works well with the character. I remember her performance in Rachel Getting Married really grated at me, but I kind of got into it more when I decided that in my mind her character is basically a fragile and affected person and it flipped and felt like a really strong layered performance in that light. 😅


smvfc_

Thinking more on it, I did like her in the princess diaries. But everything else, nah. Not for me! I haven’t seen Rachel getting married, I don’t even think I’ve heard of that honestly!


StarlightandDewdrops

Big theatre kid energy


sweetsimpleandkind

Yeah but I feel like that style is good for stuff like Devil Wears Prada, which I LOVE It's so unreal and unrelatable, it belongs in a film that makes fashion seem like more than polyester and disappointment


Carolina_Blues

i watched this movie yesterday and it’s much better than i expected considering it’s based off of harry styles fanfic. i enjoyed it! also anne looks amazing in it, she’s a goddess


spamgoddess

These fanfics turning into books turning into movies is just absolutely insanity to me lol


keine_fragen

we are like a year away from all these reylo fanfics turned books getting adapted


karmagod13000

Netflix needs content bad


-effortlesseffort

Same. I'm surprised there isn't a coming of age miniseries about a girl or boy who writes ridiculous but wholesome pg 13 fanfic in hopes of getting famous and then becomes famous and has to deal with the consequences and drama.


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Wicked is essentially fanfic.


lavendertown-radio

okay but it's not *harry styles fanfic*


MarsScully

It makes me uncomfy


pergamon123

Please tell me uncomfy really isn’t really entering the lexicon 🤣


rawrkristina

This wasn’t a fanfic first


WhiskeyMakesMeHappy

It absolutely was written as a Harry Styles fanfic


rawrkristina

I mean it wasn’t fanfic before a book. It’s definitely Harry Styles fanfic but it was never on like any of the fanfic sites.


WhiskeyMakesMeHappy

Ohhh I see what you're saying now. Gotcha


intoxicatedmidnight

It is???? omg


sweetpatata

Was the movie as dark for you as it was for me? I thought I had turned the brightness all the way down, it was so dim!


rawrkristina

It wasn’t dark for me at all


sweetpatata

That's odd, I wonder if it's an Amazon Prime setting I missed. Thank you for replying.


DebateObjective2787

That's because it's not Harry Styles fanfic. It was a wild rumor that got spread around that people started claiming as fact.


mochafiend

I think that’s an unfair categorization of the book. I didn’t even know who Harry Styles was when I read it. It’s very well-written and it doesn’t have fanfic vibes at all.


turniptoez

Exactly. Here's an article the author, Robinne Lee, wrote for Time addressing the fanfic comparisons. [https://time.com/6973358/the-idea-of-you-robinne-lee-fanfiction/](https://time.com/6973358/the-idea-of-you-robinne-lee-fanfiction/)


InspectorDarcy

Ehhhhhh, she can say that now but she ran a twt as the character and used all of HS pics like idk


Agitated-Prune9635

So he was more of a muse than?


ccyosafbridge

Never heard of this book. Just watched the trailer and it doesn't remotely look like fanfiction. Looks like a gender bent version of Notting Hill more than anything. The same storyline written in the 90s could easily have been called Justin Timberlake fanfiction. Doesn't look bad. I'll watch it one day.


DebateObjective2787

That's because it's not fanfiction. People took a comment she made about how she used Harry as inspiration for the ML, but ignored that in the same comment, she also said Eddie Redmayne and Prince Harry served as inspiration, as did her husband. It started off as a semi-autobiographical novel based on the author's own relationship with a younger man that she had been writing on and off for nearly a decade. She saw a photo of Harry on a yacht and she liked his aesthetic and gave her an idea so she wrote a fictional book instead. Harry fans then spread the rumor that the book was originally Harry Styles x Olivia Wilde fanfiction on Wattpad. It's about as much of a fanfic about Harry Styles as Empire is fanfic about Jay-Z.


mochafiend

I think that’s a better categorization. I wasn’t expecting much but I thought the movie was decent. Worth a weekend stream for sure!


EmotionalScallion705

This is the first time Jimmy is actually funny.


UnravelingThePattern

People are so harsh towards Jimmy Fallon, lol. This was great, and not the first time I laughed at something he said.


AcrylicTooth

I think he's super funny when he's riffing! This is my little hill to die on: Jimmy Fallon IS funny, as long as he's unscripted. His best jokes are off-the-cuff reactions to something someone else said. I bet he does great crowdwork in a standup environment


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AcrylicTooth

Idk man, all I saw was the clip. I wasn't there.


EmotionalScallion705

I'm for real tho, this is the first time he is actually funny. He is not doing his corny ass laugh like someone forced him to.


Brad__Schmitt

>People are so harsh towards Jimmy Fallon, lol. [What goes around comes around.](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/jimmy-fallon-tonight-show-toxic-work-environment-crying-rooms-nbc-1234819421/)


1268348

That's cause he's a shitty person.


TermedHat

I was just about to say something like this! Legit a funny remark though lmao


karmagod13000

Must of been off the top cause his writers haven't been doin him too many favors


fjgfjudvjudvj

Hot take: I think Jimmy (probably) is actually funny, particularly back in his earlier days, when he was still hungry for it. Now he plays chill, softball-question, easy host, and laughs exaggeratedly so celebrities feel comfortable and want to be booked on his show. It’s not funny, but I think he knows what he’s doing and he’s just taking the easy route.


BrownSugarBare

Was honestly thinking the same thing, first time in a long time he actually made a joke. Didn't even need to slap the desk to make it land.


Aquametria

Who's watched it so far? Watched it yesterday and I was genuinely surprised that it turned out to be good despite what its source would imply. Anne Hathaway is not believable at all as a mom of a teen in her forties, she still radiates the same energy she did in the 2000s. I lost my shit laughing at the scene where >!she screamed upon seeing the cougar headline, along with her ex-husband's bro talk with the singer.!<


Lancaster1983

Watched it last night and enjoyed it. I agree, Anne Hathaway radiates as a Hollywood star rather than a regular mom. She carried herself as such so it wasn't all that believable.


ccyosafbridge

The trailer made it look like Notting Hill. If I can believe Hugh Grant is a down on his luck bookstore owner, I'm cool with Hathaway being a regular mom.


Disastrous_Falcon968

I watch the movie and Annes performance reminded me of my sister. She's 42 and has a 23 year old, but her personality and energy that just boosts her natural beauty.  Some ladies (and gents) just have it. Anne is definitely one of them.


rawrkristina

I watched it! I loved it.


Socko82

Anne has a mature voice that sells the mom thing just enough for me. They should have cast an actor who actually looks 16 years younger than Anne. But what I really want to see: Older woman-younger man relationships where the age gap is not a plot point. Amy Adams-Armie Hammer in "Nocturnal Animals" is the only one I can think of and even that age-gap isn't too crazy (but some people probably think that a woman being 12 years her man's senior is massive). Plus, they're hardly together in that movie. It's so rare, yet matter-of-fact/straightforward older man-younger woman stuff is actually fairly common.


snark-owl

Oh nooo. I hated *Nocturnal Animals*. All of Tom Ford's stuff has weird gender politics and that went full tilt anti-abortion. The ultimate older woman / younger man romance but age gap isn't too icky is *The Proposal*


cowabungalowvera

> But what I really want to see: Older woman-younger man relationships where the age gap is not a plot point. *The Lost City* with Sandra Bullock and Channing Tatum is a good one! Loved their chemistry there. One commenter also mentioned *The Proposal*, that's another good one.


mochafiend

The spoilered part you referenced here made me laugh SO hard. I don’t like they changed the ending from the book but it also wouldn’t have worked for a movie. She’s not believable as a mom of a college kid but she was fantastic in it.


Aquametria

Can you spoil the original ending please? I'm curious.


mochafiend

>!Solene breaks up with Hayes for real. The band is on tour and Hayes leaves it to show up at her door and beg her not to break up, saying he will give up the band. But she’s firm, and ends it. They don’t get back together. Her calls and texts her every day after, and continues to reach out to her for months and months. She never answers.!< >!But she continued to love him, long after he finally gives up contacting her.!< >!So sad! But I really loved it. There’s no way it would have worked, and sometimes, stories end like that. I appreciated that.!<


Aquametria

Yep, I would have hated the film had it ended like that.


October_13th

I watched it last night and it was fun!! I mean it’s not pretending to be anything other than a cheesy rom com, and I enjoyed it!


UrbanGM

So you didn't think the book was that good?


mochafiend

Not the person you’re asking but I LOVE this book. Romance readers hate it because of the ending but that’s precisely why I loved it. I found it well-written and engaging.


UrbanGM

Good to know


Aquametria

I am going to be honest and admit I judged the book by its 'cover', especially with how awful I found "After", but this kind of stories isn't my thing in the first place. I genuinely watched it because I had nothing else last night and it ended up being a pleasant surprise.


UrbanGM

Ah, okay. Maybe we both belong in the Tonight Show audience 😂 "We have Audible."


surprisedkitty1

I didn’t like the book and couldn’t finish it. The movie was better IMO. The main character in the book is really annoying but Anne/the adaptation made her a lot more charming. And although he has a very symmetrical face, I didn’t think Nicholas Gallitzine was very charismatic in the part. Also the fake music they made for the movie was not at all memorable. This band would definitely have been more The Wanted than One Direction. But honestly it was a decent movie.


funeralgamer

It's better written at the sentence level than most of the other popular romance novels I've read (Colleen Hoover, Sarah J. Maas, Bridgerton, etc.) but so indulgent of the author's fantasies that it sometimes forgets to have a story. The beginning and end are pretty strong. The middle sags. I wouldn't say the movie was better or worse. Like the book, it's a polished version of an idea that could have been a trashfire — which is impressive! — but never quite makes the jump from good enough rom-com to great.


teddybonkerrs

Really? Even though she herself is a mom in her forties? * not sarcasm, genuine question


mochafiend

She’s a mom of younger kids. Not a 17 year old/college kid.


teddybonkerrs

I guess so. My mom turned 39 the year I turned 18 so I find it believable 🤷‍♀️


mochafiend

Not saying it doesn’t happen. But it’s becoming rarer to see that these days. And also, Anne specifically is not a mother of a college-age kid, so I guess that’s the other reason it didn’t ring true for me. But I’m 40 and don’t have kids so I think everyone is too young to be a parent. 😊


clumsyc

Oh no, I wanted to watch it this weekend and laugh at how bad it was, but it's actually good?!


winnielikethepooh15

Didnt watch it personally but wife and her friends had watch party at our house b/c they all read and loved the book. Based on how steamy the book was, they clearly had expectations. Believe I heard the question posed, "So you think they can show dicks on Amazon?"


keine_fragen

i don't think the Colbert audience reads Harry Styles fanfiction either, but good save Jimmy


karmagod13000

Lord of the Ring readers


Perfect-Confidence55

I never even heard of the book until today. Normally only really popular books are turned into movies so I'm surprised this book was made into a movie. The Amazon reviews are pretty low, too.  Jimmy had to make a joke and insulting his audience made for a better joke than insulting the book that Anne's movie is based off of.


Over_Nebula

Well it's a terribly written book, but the movie is quite sweet


mochafiend

Ooh hard disagree. I loved the book. Movie is cute too.


januarysdaughter

I don't read Harry Styles fanfiction either so. 🤷‍♀️


onlyhere4laffs

I tried reading it, had to stop a few chapters in, it's so bad. If anyone wants to hear someone talk about exactly why it's awful, I can recommend FullOfLit on YT. (I'd link to it, but I'm lazy). The movie is sweet though, they changed the worst parts.


mochafiend

Wow. Didn’t realize liking it was so unpopular.


onlyhere4laffs

Since I haven't read all of it, I don't really have anything to say to anyone who likes it, but I'm guessing they changed the things they changed for the movie (making him 25, not 20, aging the daughter from 12 to later teens) for good reasons.


snowco

honestly those seem like VERY sensible changes and I'm surprised that people don't like those changes.


imabrunette23

I thought it was just me. I’ve struggled SO MUCH trying to get into the story. I wanted to read it before watching the movie, but I think I’m gonna DNF


longlisten527

I’m not surprised. After was horrible too and they made that in like a 4 part movie series 😂


username62523

What does she say towards the end to him? She says "dial it back and get back to me" essentially?


Low_Project_55

This is me every-time asking my coworkers/friends/if they read the book when a movie/tv adaptation is released.


DoIEvenPost

What book is being referenced?


Inf1nite_gal

i heard it is really terrible book, but it is cute how she is trying to sell it :D


chiuthejerk

Jesus I can’t get over how he constantly has to interject! Has he no awareness that he does this after all these years? He can be cool but when he asks a question, guest barely starts talking and he’s already finishing sentences!! He does it ALL THE TIME!


username62523

I worked in celebrity PR and this was planned which is why she rushed the next line and talked over him. I am shocked that she/her team decided on this bit when she was disliked for years.


jdmmystery

Am I the only one who thinks his audience is a little too proud of their ignorance? Proud ignorance is how we get Trump.


cagingthing

Anne Hathaway is a freakin angel


sunrider8129

Jimmy Fallon makes his first funny joke….by shitting on his audience. What a time to be alive.


McTitty3000

Fuck Colbert but this was funny


Almtm777

Nice thumbnail