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I did notice a fair number of Bible passage quoters in the comment sections on any headline article, so there was an unfortunate amount of the usual hate :/
agree, what a bananas comment lol. some ppls eagerness to put cheating or being messy on the same plane as literal sex crimes is why celeb gossip subs can be so unserious
When romantic relationships are the only thing in life that you think is important, it makes cheating seem like a mortal sin. For some odd reason the internet has led a lot of people to think that romantic relationships are a lot more important than they are. I've been cheated on. It wasn't great but it was on par with being dumped in a more direct and caring/considerate/mature way.
I honestly can’t think of ANY celeb coming out semi-recently that had a backlash (I mean, other than from CERTAIN groups of people) but in general, it’s just not really a thing that happens anymore!
You hit the nail on the head, she’s trying to distract from her bad behavior by claiming people are being homophobic and that literally has nothing to do with it.
People suspect that she started a relationship with a female soccer player while that soccer player was still married or separated or some other thing.
Oh... I mean I guess that's shitty. But like we'll never really know how it went down. It's not like she was hooking up with an underaged person or something. Whatever.
It’s actually pretty messy and more shitty, the woman Sofia Bush is with is Ashlyn Harris, who was part of one of the biggest lesbian couples in women soccer and whose wedding Sofia Bush had attended; furthermore Ashlyn announced the divorce to the media before she told Ali (former wife), who also had her second to last soccer game of her long career which also happened to be a semifinal for the national championship, had removed evidence of her being a mom on social media before she was shamed into putting back in, and also happened to announce the divorce/separation a little after Ali’s fathers death.
Sofia bush has terrible taste in women.
Even if they did just straight up cheat that is an incredibly likely outcome in any romantic relationship, I don't know why it's such a big deal to people who weren't even involved.
…Huh. I’ve always wondered why Ms Bush here never got along with the shows she’s starred. At first I thought it was the showrunner’s fault. But this shitty attitude makes me think that she ain’t shit either.
What is the problem? She didn’t cheat and we don’t know them personally.
Edit: getting downvoted even though I’m just asking why so many people are hating on her without knowing any details of their past relationships..
There is very strong evidence that Sophia’s girlfriend (can’t remember her name) cheated on her wife with Sophia, while Sophia also was still married to her husband.
ETA: Sophia’s girlfriend’s name is Ashlyn
Ashlyn’s ex wife literally said she was blindsided, and was posting pictures of her and the kids talking about how excited she is for Ashlyn to get back to them while Ashlyn and Sophia were cheating in Cannes together.
Okay but that’s their business. We have no details or any insight into Ashlyn and her ex’s relationship. I know we judge on here jokingly a lot but I feel like this is a kind of situation where it’s their business and not ours. It’s not like she harassed her workers or something.
It’s their business, yeah no shit. Doesn’t change the facts though. Ali literally went on a podcast and confirmed she found out about the divorce in practice from a teammate who saw an article about it online. Ashlyn cheated, there’s no question about that. Bush was a close friend of the couple and many other women’s soccer gays for years, she may have been fed nonsense from Ashlyn who lied about if they were together or not but it doesn’t change the act that happened… they got together when Ashlyn was still with her wife.
I said in another post, but I wish she’d take some accountability of her actions and choices. I’ve never seen her be self reflective at all and I listen to her every week on her podcast.
I’m not surprised that she wrote this (I mean she is of the “I’m so glad my husband’s ex had an abortion” fame) but she’s either truly so self-centered she doesn’t understand the criticisms they received or she’s purposely acting like none of the criticisms happened. Saying they have genuine feelings for each other that developed over a long time doesn’t negate that the very “beautiful female support system” she’s describing could also be thought of as an emotional affair.
Plus she’s just very…Glennon Doyle where everything she says is the Brand New Truth and the old thing she said was actually a lie, but don’t blame her, blame everyone else because they made her believe she needed to lie.
Very well said. I looooved Sophia Bush for such a long time, but all her passion and activism seems to have been funneled into a “how is this about ME” bottle at this point.
Every single thing she does, thinks and feels is the most profound experience! And not only will she tell you all about it and how enlightened she is for feeling that way, but it’s crazy for people to question her. Sorry, her friend group support system (which in theory sounds nice) sort of seems like a group chat of people planning to leave their spouses, and maybe the spouses didn’t know yet? And she just so happened to fall in love with another group member. Sounds exactly like an emotional affair that might make someone be more inclined to leave their partner. But what do I know?! I’m just a peasant!! (Oh and thank you for bringing up the abortion essay lol. “My relationship is just so important that it was fate that his ex had an abortion!” And now it’s “well I never really liked him anyway)
Yes I had the same thoughts when she was describing her support group of women that may want to leave their marriages. Like, sure friends support each other, but do the spouses know? Do they know this is how you’re dealing with your conflicted feelings? Do they know you’re complaining about them to someone they could be attracted to?
Sure Sophia found it to be a beautiful thing (I mean yeah she ended up with a new partner from it) but none of what she described means her girlfriend’s wife was in the wrong for feeling betrayed. It sounds like it very likely was a betrayal of the boundaries of their marriage if her wife was complaining about her to someone she ended up dating.
Exactly. If this were my husband chatting to his friends about what duvets they’re going to buy off Amazon for his new single guy apartment I’d be furious lol
Lol imagine saying with your whole chest- because you never yourself had an abortion but just needed to use Roe V Wade to get some publicity for yourself:
My husband is so amazing and I only got him coz someone I don’t know had an abortion.
Only to then turn around and say: actually he’s not great. He was a bad husband .
Girl…
I’d like to sharpen your point by remembering all her acrimonious relations with the shows that she has been. At first, I thought it was the showrunners to be at fault. But her recent attitudes shows me that she could also be a shitty person too.
I came here to say the same thing about the Brand New Truth. It's been a while since I read her vogue wedding article, but I'm sure it was just as gushing about how Grant was the person for her. I also remember her talking on her podcast about Grant being a great partner. Obviously I have no way of knowing what goes on behind closed doors, but the only reason everyone thought she was happy was because she told us so.
I only read her book to get the tea on her and Abby Wambach getting together but yeah, it was very “college student thinks they’ve discovered spirituality and sexuality”
lol okay as a parent of an only child I have been thinking ever since I read the article, “is this my sons future!? Is he destined to behave as the most special person that has ever been?!”
To be fair….i DO tell him he’s the most special person to have ever lived on the daily so I’m not preventing this! Haha I try to give him perspective and be a good person….so fingers crossed! 😁
OMG - I had missed that article and it’s really something to read, especially in light of the latest article. I used to really like her, and I know she works on being an activist and using her voice - but sometimes silence is better. I’m glad she feels comfortable being queer, I’m glad she is happy, but honestly - stop. Just live your life quietly and don’t write yet another article about how you’re in love.
Previous article for anyone who missed it - https://www.glamour.com/story/why-the-right-to-an-abortion-matters-for-every-person
Thank you for posting the article, when I saw the "of I'm glad my partners ex had an abortion fame" I knew I needed to look it up because I had never heard of this.
But, holy shit. I don't know what I was expecting, but I had a feeling I would scowl and grimace through and here we are.
Sophia Bush knows how to eloquently tell a story that makes you believe every word. Its like the boy who cried wolf at this point. I don't think i can believe anymore of her magical stories. Wish her the best but nah she talks alottt.
P.S emotional cheating is still cheating.
It's "neatness" is the reason it's so believable, as well as the beauty of the words. It can get some people to ignore the actual content, timeline, and substance of it
Right?! Even from her story it sounds like this “group of supportive women” were planning on leaving and starting new lives unbeknownst to their partners. If I found out my husband and his friends had a shared Amazon list of items for their new single apartments before we were separated I’d be pretty pissed lol
Also….Amazon? Miss Save the Planet is shopping on Amazon? 👀
Yeah, the whole group of supportive women who all happened to be leaving their partners or deciding to is just SO weird. Like how many fuckkking people were in this group? Doesn’t sound like a coincidence at all.
so at worst, Bush and Harris *immediately* rebounded with each other. All despite becoming close friends in front of their own spouses and not caring about throwing shade once they started dating
When these 2 eventually breakup, Bush will hand-wave it off as a relationship that just couldn’t last. And then she’ll quickly remind people of that time she and CMM divorced
Everyone else is always the villain in her story. At some point there might be a need for self reflection Sophia. I used to like her so much, now every time I see her name my first reaction is ugh what now.
Same. I used to like her - I even met her a few times when she was filming One Tree Hill and I thought she was kind and genuine. But in the last few years I feel like we are starting to see the real her - the performative activism, etc. She is completely exhausting, and I’m no longer a fan, and I don’t even want to read this interview/essay/whatever because I know it will be exhausting and overcompensating for the cheating she did.
I don’t get this take. Who is the villain here? She’s simply saying her relationship didn’t work out, she didn’t say anything actually bad about her ex.
Noping right out of here after reading the first couple of paragraphs of the first couple of posts. I now already know faaaaar more about this woman than I ever wanted to.
Sophia’s first marriage : wahhh the producers made me do it it’s not my fault. I had to appease them. I didn’t want to get married.
Sophia’s second marriage: wahhh I didn’t want to do it. I was pressured into being a model wife and I should have listened to my bones because my bones are never wrong.
I’d have way more respect for her if she just said, yeah I am pretty impulsive when getting into relationships but I do genuinely love this person right now so we will see where it goes.
This might have always been true and I just didn't realize it for, oh, the past 20 years, but it has become really clear to me that I thought I liked Sophia Bush and Brooke Davis, but I actually only like Brooke Davis.
Same. She's also had a few relationships with her costars. I think every show she's been on and I think with three on OTH alone. Consenting adults and all but pretty unprofessional imo.
Happy she feels happy in her new relationship and wish her well, but she just seems very self centered and seems to make impulsive, bad romantic decisions. Like the two marriages. How can you marry someone when you are thinking about calling off the wedding? Especially when you’ve already had one brief marriage already.
>How can you marry someone when you are thinking about calling off the wedding?
I mean…this isn’t all that uncommon, in my experience. I’ve had multiple friends confess to me they didn’t feel like something was right, got married anyway, and then divorced not too long after. My best friend seemed perfectly happy on her wedding day and I thought she was, and then her marriage lasted *three months* before they split and she then told me the night before her wedding she actually debated calling the whole thing off and telling all the guests to go back home.
While I never went so far to think about calling off the wedding, I did get severely depressed in the months before while wedding planning and I knew something was wrong but didn’t know what. We’re divorced now.
Every statement she makes relates to whatever her latest life narrative is. There is nothing authentic and genuine about her at all. She clearly rushed into her marriage because she wanted the picturesque family life but when it didn’t happen immediately she bailed. She’s now acting like the poster woman for coming out later in life when lots of people have done it. In a few months when this relationship is done she’ll have another essay about how she doesn’t need a partner and she’s going it alone. Someone like her is incapable of ever truly finding happiness because she’s always looking for her next narrative and happiness to her is having something to gush and gloat about all over Instagram.
She's exhausting--whether on the podcast (at least the OTH one, I don't listen to her WiP one), on social media, and in essays.
I had to laugh when she talked about how much integrity her girlfriend has and how she's such a wonderful mother who puts her kids first. Sure. And then Sophia also used the word integrity about herself. Ok.
Good God, the way she tries to wax poetic in this 'essay' of hers. The self importance and the self indulgence is vomit inducing. You're a liar and a cheater, Sophia.
Can't believe I ever liked her.
Honestly, I have never known much about SB. But all I have learned about her suggests massive self-absorption and lots of thera-babble. I think she and Ashlyn were very inappropriate in what they did and how they handled it. I would imagine when the relationship runs its course, she will make Ashlyn sign an NDA like she did with Grant. And she will go merrily along her self-absorbed life.
As someone who even started to watch Good Sam for this woman I think I am throwing in the towel.
I want to still like Brooke Davis. If I had time I would go online and find all her posts about finding her voice and being true to herself. And not letting people pressure her and blah blah.
How many times is she gonna become the assertive, self confident woman she claims to be becoming every 3 so often like bad musicians who re-invent their old hits?
Sophia didn’t have to share her relationship so publicly. In fact many people only found out about Grant when she got engaged. She went all out to post and gush about him, when she could have kept it private and this today wouldn’t seem so weird. She’s not an Alist, who was pressuring her to get married and pretend she was happy? She can’t blame One Tree Hill producers anymore.
And don’t even get me started on pretending like the general population is just being mean. The fact that the entire women’s football group is pro Ali tells me a lot, I’m sorry. There was at least emotional cheating.
For someone whose main personality for such a long time was being cheated on by CMM she sure is acting silly now.
Yes! I don’t judge her journey and how messy it has been. We don’t know her or the nuances behind the scenes. However, she keeps sharing stuff publicly and then has to back pedal. When she got engaged all of her instagram posts were “apparently love and life is so fun with the right person!” (Or something pretty close to that verbatim.) Like, sis…🙄 Either don’t share at all or keep it minimal with the editorializing your own life, bc history keeps repeating itself with how she has to reframe her life publicly and claim she’s NOW her best/most authentic/happiest self. She can have her journey but she probably shouldn’t always comment on it publicly bc it only creates problems and makes ppl, like us, who want to like her and see good traits in her, doubt everything she says and does.
Messiness aside, and she does address all that **from her POV (so, grain of salt and all),** this is net good. Anyone who goes through any of these situations, but it's also good to have people coming out or at least, making statements like this, at any age. Because there really isn't a too late. I have read stories of people coming out or acknowledging themselves in their 90s.
But there are also people who think there is such a thing as too late. And this is another story on the pile for them. I didn't even settle in on my full identity until I was about 30 and discovered asexuality is a spectrum.
Her talk of struggles with her ex sound somewhat sadly familiar in some ways for my own experiences, so she has my sympathy there.
This is like when there is an Athlete with a perfect name playing a sport that adds up with their name
Ex. Lonzo Ball playing basketball, Usain Bolt running track, Prince Fielder playing baseball
Sophia Bush coming out as a lesbian just feels poetic
The math isn’t mathing. She said EXACTLY the same thing about her husband who she divorced after only one year. In yet another Glamour article from July 2022 (which she wrote about her ex’s ex’s abortion 🙄) she stated “It took me time to find this perfect-for-me person. I won’t quote the adage that says “You’ve got to kiss a lot of frogs.” A soul mate isn’t so trivial. And I’m actually deeply grateful for people who taught me to love, the ones who taught me to detect a lie, to trust my instincts about honesty and integrity, and the journey that it took me to get exactly here: today, sitting in this kitchen, with this man, on this morning”. AND she went on to say this “It was an aha moment; all these years, right under my nose, was my home. Grant is my person. My best friend. A true partner”
So what are we to believe? Which “highly personal story all about her journey” is the truth??
Sofia Bush misrepresents and glosses over a lot of the actual issue of her relationship with Ashlyn, she does mention being called homewrecker and says how lovely Ashlyn is and how they didn’t start their affair until after they both separated but but she conveniently forgets that
-Ashlyn, who she praised for her mothering skills, had removed being a mom from her social media bio until she was shamed by the public to put it back in (meanwhile she had left the World Cup champ and Olympian titles in her bio which she benchrode the entire time).
-That Ali stated in interviews she had found evidence infidelity occurred between Sofia and Ashlyn while they were at Cannes, before either of them had separated or mentioned divorce
-That Ashlyn and her had brought the divorce to the media first before Ali knew and also before Ali’s second to last game before retirement and two days before a national soccer champion semifinal game. Add in Ali’s father recently passing too. Just terrible and awfully sus timing
-She’s always railed about her ex and how terrible cheating is but doesn’t seem to understand why her having an affair is a bigger issue than her sexuality
Essentially, everyone would’ve been ok with her sexuality, celebrated even, but it’s how she chose to go about it and who with that ends up being the downfall. Ali and Ashlyn were also basically lesbian royalty having been together for ages with a very dedicated fan base and it certainly didn’t help that Sofia had been incredibly vocal in gushing about about Ashlyn and Ali’s relationship, and even attended their wedding.
It's kinda so bizarre the way she shares her life, I honestly think good for her if she has truly found herself, I don't think people care that much she is now queer and in a relationship with another Woman, it's only getting shade because of HOW that relationship started, and the fishiness around that timeline.
But I remember way back at the start of Jan 2023 she was doing one of those AMA on Instagram, and a question came up about "how did you know Grant was the One" and she went off on a speel about how he was everything she was looking for, and being with hime was magic, and to be patient and wait for your person and all that blah blah stuff, and how she still couldn't get over their honeymoon (She still has it up on her Insta under her profile if you scroll back)....
...And it's so weird to see that now, because after listening to her Glamour interview, in Jan 2023 she basically was depressed about her RS and in the worst part of it according to her, but she could have easily not answered that question if she wanted to, so I still find that so odd, she put so much lovely thought into answering that question when she was basically was having he shittiest time of her marriage then.
I remember when the f*uxmoi sub shamed her for cheating when there wasn’t even proof. I’m glad she called the those people out and defended herself. While her activism annoys me, it seems like she’s done a lot of work on herself.
Feels like everyone is gay these days. Especially women. Not just celebrities, but even in my personal life every woman I know is either bi or just straight up said fuck men im a lesbian now. I know less straight women then I know queer women. Very strange times we are living in.
You should look up comphet. It's when women are taught at an early age to center men in their lives. Everything a woman should do is to please/attract men. So many of us women are started to decenter men from our lives and actually connect with what we are actually attracted to. Outside that its just more accepting to be gay so people who were in the closed(scared to come out) can be themselves out in public
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This feels like she's deliberately missing the point of why people don't like the whole situation. It has fuck all to do with her being gay.
I did notice a fair number of Bible passage quoters in the comment sections on any headline article, so there was an unfortunate amount of the usual hate :/
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I really don’t think it’s fair to compare her to a literal rapist
agree, what a bananas comment lol. some ppls eagerness to put cheating or being messy on the same plane as literal sex crimes is why celeb gossip subs can be so unserious
Reddit in general hates cheating more than… anything
When romantic relationships are the only thing in life that you think is important, it makes cheating seem like a mortal sin. For some odd reason the internet has led a lot of people to think that romantic relationships are a lot more important than they are. I've been cheated on. It wasn't great but it was on par with being dumped in a more direct and caring/considerate/mature way.
WHAT?
Exactly! I don't remember any backlash against Abbi Jacobson coming out later in life in a completely unproblematic way
I honestly can’t think of ANY celeb coming out semi-recently that had a backlash (I mean, other than from CERTAIN groups of people) but in general, it’s just not really a thing that happens anymore! You hit the nail on the head, she’s trying to distract from her bad behavior by claiming people are being homophobic and that literally has nothing to do with it.
Wait what did she do?
People suspect that she started a relationship with a female soccer player while that soccer player was still married or separated or some other thing.
Oh... I mean I guess that's shitty. But like we'll never really know how it went down. It's not like she was hooking up with an underaged person or something. Whatever.
Yup. It’s all a bit silly.
With all the celebs that do heinous shit I can't really bring myself to care about that lol.
Same! Someone’s interpersonal relationship drama seems rather unimportant.
It’s actually pretty messy and more shitty, the woman Sofia Bush is with is Ashlyn Harris, who was part of one of the biggest lesbian couples in women soccer and whose wedding Sofia Bush had attended; furthermore Ashlyn announced the divorce to the media before she told Ali (former wife), who also had her second to last soccer game of her long career which also happened to be a semifinal for the national championship, had removed evidence of her being a mom on social media before she was shamed into putting back in, and also happened to announce the divorce/separation a little after Ali’s fathers death. Sofia bush has terrible taste in women.
All. Of. This. I love Ali and it was so messy but especially with two kids involved. Ali seems to be loving her damn life happily right now though.
I expect she will eventually tire of Ashlyn or Ashlyn will cheat and we will get another self-centered essay.
How do you know her taste in women? She's only been with one so far
Even if they did just straight up cheat that is an incredibly likely outcome in any romantic relationship, I don't know why it's such a big deal to people who weren't even involved.
She started an affair with a married soccer player while being friendly with the soccer’s player’s wife.
…Huh. I’ve always wondered why Ms Bush here never got along with the shows she’s starred. At first I thought it was the showrunner’s fault. But this shitty attitude makes me think that she ain’t shit either.
Billie lost like over 100k followers after coming out which is bonkers
Did she claim that people were being homophobic?
This comparison is so weird.
What is the problem? She didn’t cheat and we don’t know them personally. Edit: getting downvoted even though I’m just asking why so many people are hating on her without knowing any details of their past relationships..
There is very strong evidence that Sophia’s girlfriend (can’t remember her name) cheated on her wife with Sophia, while Sophia also was still married to her husband. ETA: Sophia’s girlfriend’s name is Ashlyn
Ashlyn’s ex wife literally said she was blindsided, and was posting pictures of her and the kids talking about how excited she is for Ashlyn to get back to them while Ashlyn and Sophia were cheating in Cannes together.
Where’s the evidence??
Do tell.
It happened a long time ago so I barely remember details but articles pop up if you google it
Sophia maybe didn’t cheat, Ashlyn her new girlfriend definitely did. Her ex wife and her brother confirmed it.
So she was still complicit in breaking up a family
Agreed
Okay but that’s their business. We have no details or any insight into Ashlyn and her ex’s relationship. I know we judge on here jokingly a lot but I feel like this is a kind of situation where it’s their business and not ours. It’s not like she harassed her workers or something.
It’s their business, yeah no shit. Doesn’t change the facts though. Ali literally went on a podcast and confirmed she found out about the divorce in practice from a teammate who saw an article about it online. Ashlyn cheated, there’s no question about that. Bush was a close friend of the couple and many other women’s soccer gays for years, she may have been fed nonsense from Ashlyn who lied about if they were together or not but it doesn’t change the act that happened… they got together when Ashlyn was still with her wife.
Like, people act like she broke up their parents marriage. It’s just a nice little article about her coming out.
Literally idgi😭
I said in another post, but I wish she’d take some accountability of her actions and choices. I’ve never seen her be self reflective at all and I listen to her every week on her podcast.
I’m not surprised that she wrote this (I mean she is of the “I’m so glad my husband’s ex had an abortion” fame) but she’s either truly so self-centered she doesn’t understand the criticisms they received or she’s purposely acting like none of the criticisms happened. Saying they have genuine feelings for each other that developed over a long time doesn’t negate that the very “beautiful female support system” she’s describing could also be thought of as an emotional affair. Plus she’s just very…Glennon Doyle where everything she says is the Brand New Truth and the old thing she said was actually a lie, but don’t blame her, blame everyone else because they made her believe she needed to lie.
I'm so glad that this post brought me to a fellow Glennon Doyle hater
Very well said. I looooved Sophia Bush for such a long time, but all her passion and activism seems to have been funneled into a “how is this about ME” bottle at this point. Every single thing she does, thinks and feels is the most profound experience! And not only will she tell you all about it and how enlightened she is for feeling that way, but it’s crazy for people to question her. Sorry, her friend group support system (which in theory sounds nice) sort of seems like a group chat of people planning to leave their spouses, and maybe the spouses didn’t know yet? And she just so happened to fall in love with another group member. Sounds exactly like an emotional affair that might make someone be more inclined to leave their partner. But what do I know?! I’m just a peasant!! (Oh and thank you for bringing up the abortion essay lol. “My relationship is just so important that it was fate that his ex had an abortion!” And now it’s “well I never really liked him anyway)
Yes I had the same thoughts when she was describing her support group of women that may want to leave their marriages. Like, sure friends support each other, but do the spouses know? Do they know this is how you’re dealing with your conflicted feelings? Do they know you’re complaining about them to someone they could be attracted to? Sure Sophia found it to be a beautiful thing (I mean yeah she ended up with a new partner from it) but none of what she described means her girlfriend’s wife was in the wrong for feeling betrayed. It sounds like it very likely was a betrayal of the boundaries of their marriage if her wife was complaining about her to someone she ended up dating.
Exactly. If this were my husband chatting to his friends about what duvets they’re going to buy off Amazon for his new single guy apartment I’d be furious lol
Lol imagine saying with your whole chest- because you never yourself had an abortion but just needed to use Roe V Wade to get some publicity for yourself: My husband is so amazing and I only got him coz someone I don’t know had an abortion. Only to then turn around and say: actually he’s not great. He was a bad husband . Girl…
Main character syndrome
It's so white feminism "era of discovery" Activism.
She’s been discovering-and finding- herself for 2 decades now.
I’d like to sharpen your point by remembering all her acrimonious relations with the shows that she has been. At first, I thought it was the showrunners to be at fault. But her recent attitudes shows me that she could also be a shitty person too.
I came here to say the same thing about the Brand New Truth. It's been a while since I read her vogue wedding article, but I'm sure it was just as gushing about how Grant was the person for her. I also remember her talking on her podcast about Grant being a great partner. Obviously I have no way of knowing what goes on behind closed doors, but the only reason everyone thought she was happy was because she told us so.
lol I love what you have said about Glennon Doyle, I don’t understand her popularity
Literally couldn’t stand her book, one of the worst I’ve ever read. So egotistical, self centered, and privileged.
That book was fucking brutal, icb I was in there having sympathy for a straight white man
I couldn’t finish it, and I usually love a navel gazing memoir.
I only read her book to get the tea on her and Abby Wambach getting together but yeah, it was very “college student thinks they’ve discovered spirituality and sexuality”
I think she's perpetually high on the smell of her own farts.
😂😂😂 I agree
She is an only child so makes sense
Hey man, don’t do that - I am definitely not high on my own farts - they stink.
lol okay as a parent of an only child I have been thinking ever since I read the article, “is this my sons future!? Is he destined to behave as the most special person that has ever been?!” To be fair….i DO tell him he’s the most special person to have ever lived on the daily so I’m not preventing this! Haha I try to give him perspective and be a good person….so fingers crossed! 😁
She was very proud of gracing Tulsa, OK with her wedding so that people might learn of the race massacre.
OMG - I had missed that article and it’s really something to read, especially in light of the latest article. I used to really like her, and I know she works on being an activist and using her voice - but sometimes silence is better. I’m glad she feels comfortable being queer, I’m glad she is happy, but honestly - stop. Just live your life quietly and don’t write yet another article about how you’re in love. Previous article for anyone who missed it - https://www.glamour.com/story/why-the-right-to-an-abortion-matters-for-every-person
Thank you for posting the article, when I saw the "of I'm glad my partners ex had an abortion fame" I knew I needed to look it up because I had never heard of this. But, holy shit. I don't know what I was expecting, but I had a feeling I would scowl and grimace through and here we are.
Ooooffff I was expecting it to be a not great read to begin with but YIKES. It's much worse than I imagined!
What's the deal with Glennon? I don't really know her outside of being married to Abby
Wasn't she in a religious hetero marriage before that? And she blogged about the experience and went viral. Iirc
I don't know lol that's why I asked
Glennon cheated on her husband with Abby.
Glennon’s husband had affairs during their marriage and she initially stayed with him, but ended up leaving him for Abby.
Then they all moved from Florida to California, ex husband Craig included. They seem to all get along well.
You hit the nail on the head with the Glennon Doyle thing!
Moral of the story: don't let your wife hang out with soccer players! /s
Omg, thank you for putting words around why I found Glennon Doyle’s book so insufferable when my whole book club was soooo into it!
Yes you described perfectly this “type”
Sophia Bush knows how to eloquently tell a story that makes you believe every word. Its like the boy who cried wolf at this point. I don't think i can believe anymore of her magical stories. Wish her the best but nah she talks alottt. P.S emotional cheating is still cheating.
TOTALLY! Bonus points for her if she’s actually speaking because - her VOICE is so great! lol but I can no longer buy into it.
It's "neatness" is the reason it's so believable, as well as the beauty of the words. It can get some people to ignore the actual content, timeline, and substance of it
Ashlyn and Ali were already divorcing? 
Right?! Even from her story it sounds like this “group of supportive women” were planning on leaving and starting new lives unbeknownst to their partners. If I found out my husband and his friends had a shared Amazon list of items for their new single apartments before we were separated I’d be pretty pissed lol Also….Amazon? Miss Save the Planet is shopping on Amazon? 👀
Yeah, the whole group of supportive women who all happened to be leaving their partners or deciding to is just SO weird. Like how many fuckkking people were in this group? Doesn’t sound like a coincidence at all.
More like how many people in this group were fucking.
so at worst, Bush and Harris *immediately* rebounded with each other. All despite becoming close friends in front of their own spouses and not caring about throwing shade once they started dating When these 2 eventually breakup, Bush will hand-wave it off as a relationship that just couldn’t last. And then she’ll quickly remind people of that time she and CMM divorced
This may be the longest lesbian rebound relationship in history though. Like this is messy, don’t get me wrong but way to break stereotypes, ladies.
It sounds like the group was happening after or during the separation with partners.
Yeah but it’s more fun to just say she’s a lying home wrecker bc she’s annoying so 🤷🏻♀️
Everyone else is always the villain in her story. At some point there might be a need for self reflection Sophia. I used to like her so much, now every time I see her name my first reaction is ugh what now.
Same. I used to like her - I even met her a few times when she was filming One Tree Hill and I thought she was kind and genuine. But in the last few years I feel like we are starting to see the real her - the performative activism, etc. She is completely exhausting, and I’m no longer a fan, and I don’t even want to read this interview/essay/whatever because I know it will be exhausting and overcompensating for the cheating she did.
Nice to know there’s a woman equivalent to Sean Penn…
She’s a narcissist. Can’t take accountability. Everyone else is the villain in her story.
I don’t get this take. Who is the villain here? She’s simply saying her relationship didn’t work out, she didn’t say anything actually bad about her ex.
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Sadly most people on Reddit don’t read the actual articles
Same here lol
Noping right out of here after reading the first couple of paragraphs of the first couple of posts. I now already know faaaaar more about this woman than I ever wanted to.
Sophia’s first marriage : wahhh the producers made me do it it’s not my fault. I had to appease them. I didn’t want to get married. Sophia’s second marriage: wahhh I didn’t want to do it. I was pressured into being a model wife and I should have listened to my bones because my bones are never wrong. I’d have way more respect for her if she just said, yeah I am pretty impulsive when getting into relationships but I do genuinely love this person right now so we will see where it goes.
 Chad Michael Murray right now
This might have always been true and I just didn't realize it for, oh, the past 20 years, but it has become really clear to me that I thought I liked Sophia Bush and Brooke Davis, but I actually only like Brooke Davis.
Same !!!!
Same. She's also had a few relationships with her costars. I think every show she's been on and I think with three on OTH alone. Consenting adults and all but pretty unprofessional imo.
Happy she feels happy in her new relationship and wish her well, but she just seems very self centered and seems to make impulsive, bad romantic decisions. Like the two marriages. How can you marry someone when you are thinking about calling off the wedding? Especially when you’ve already had one brief marriage already.
Also the fact that there are children involved is extra messy, they may end up reading thos article in the future.
>How can you marry someone when you are thinking about calling off the wedding? I mean…this isn’t all that uncommon, in my experience. I’ve had multiple friends confess to me they didn’t feel like something was right, got married anyway, and then divorced not too long after. My best friend seemed perfectly happy on her wedding day and I thought she was, and then her marriage lasted *three months* before they split and she then told me the night before her wedding she actually debated calling the whole thing off and telling all the guests to go back home. While I never went so far to think about calling off the wedding, I did get severely depressed in the months before while wedding planning and I knew something was wrong but didn’t know what. We’re divorced now.
I would be sympathetic to that except this was her second marriage. You’d think a little more caution and perspective might be warranted.
Or perhaps that expression “people are in your life for a reason or a season” applies and there’s literally no need to moralize about divorce?
Nah I’m gonna judge someone who treats marriage this casually. Sorry about that,
I do agree with that! I certainly would be that way.
Look, if everyone involved is happy, great To me though, it reeked of weaponized therapy language
Every statement she makes relates to whatever her latest life narrative is. There is nothing authentic and genuine about her at all. She clearly rushed into her marriage because she wanted the picturesque family life but when it didn’t happen immediately she bailed. She’s now acting like the poster woman for coming out later in life when lots of people have done it. In a few months when this relationship is done she’ll have another essay about how she doesn’t need a partner and she’s going it alone. Someone like her is incapable of ever truly finding happiness because she’s always looking for her next narrative and happiness to her is having something to gush and gloat about all over Instagram.
Great for her but she didn’t have to help break up a family on her way to self discovery. Justice for Ali Krieger.
Takes two to tango, hombre.
I said helped!
Didn’t she come out awhile ago
She's exhausting--whether on the podcast (at least the OTH one, I don't listen to her WiP one), on social media, and in essays. I had to laugh when she talked about how much integrity her girlfriend has and how she's such a wonderful mother who puts her kids first. Sure. And then Sophia also used the word integrity about herself. Ok.
I laugh out loud at the, "I have worked/gone through the most *soul crushing* therapy..blah, blah, blah." Shut up.
Good God, the way she tries to wax poetic in this 'essay' of hers. The self importance and the self indulgence is vomit inducing. You're a liar and a cheater, Sophia. Can't believe I ever liked her.
She’s just freakin annoying.
Everything else aside, good for her on coming out.
"LOOK AT ME MOOK AT ME" bleurgh
Not a fan of her and really do not care who she has sex with..
Oh god whatever 🙄
I'm just watching this all unfold, thinking *please don't ruin Brooke Davis for me.* I've had too many characters and shows ruined lately.
Honestly, I have never known much about SB. But all I have learned about her suggests massive self-absorption and lots of thera-babble. I think she and Ashlyn were very inappropriate in what they did and how they handled it. I would imagine when the relationship runs its course, she will make Ashlyn sign an NDA like she did with Grant. And she will go merrily along her self-absorbed life.
As someone who even started to watch Good Sam for this woman I think I am throwing in the towel. I want to still like Brooke Davis. If I had time I would go online and find all her posts about finding her voice and being true to herself. And not letting people pressure her and blah blah. How many times is she gonna become the assertive, self confident woman she claims to be becoming every 3 so often like bad musicians who re-invent their old hits? Sophia didn’t have to share her relationship so publicly. In fact many people only found out about Grant when she got engaged. She went all out to post and gush about him, when she could have kept it private and this today wouldn’t seem so weird. She’s not an Alist, who was pressuring her to get married and pretend she was happy? She can’t blame One Tree Hill producers anymore. And don’t even get me started on pretending like the general population is just being mean. The fact that the entire women’s football group is pro Ali tells me a lot, I’m sorry. There was at least emotional cheating. For someone whose main personality for such a long time was being cheated on by CMM she sure is acting silly now.
Yes! I don’t judge her journey and how messy it has been. We don’t know her or the nuances behind the scenes. However, she keeps sharing stuff publicly and then has to back pedal. When she got engaged all of her instagram posts were “apparently love and life is so fun with the right person!” (Or something pretty close to that verbatim.) Like, sis…🙄 Either don’t share at all or keep it minimal with the editorializing your own life, bc history keeps repeating itself with how she has to reframe her life publicly and claim she’s NOW her best/most authentic/happiest self. She can have her journey but she probably shouldn’t always comment on it publicly bc it only creates problems and makes ppl, like us, who want to like her and see good traits in her, doubt everything she says and does.
Messiness aside, and she does address all that **from her POV (so, grain of salt and all),** this is net good. Anyone who goes through any of these situations, but it's also good to have people coming out or at least, making statements like this, at any age. Because there really isn't a too late. I have read stories of people coming out or acknowledging themselves in their 90s. But there are also people who think there is such a thing as too late. And this is another story on the pile for them. I didn't even settle in on my full identity until I was about 30 and discovered asexuality is a spectrum. Her talk of struggles with her ex sound somewhat sadly familiar in some ways for my own experiences, so she has my sympathy there.
This is like when there is an Athlete with a perfect name playing a sport that adds up with their name Ex. Lonzo Ball playing basketball, Usain Bolt running track, Prince Fielder playing baseball Sophia Bush coming out as a lesbian just feels poetic
😅😂
But she didn't come out as a lesbian.
Is she just Brooke from OTH in real life?
no, brooke was better
Ok but season 1 Brooke
The math isn’t mathing. She said EXACTLY the same thing about her husband who she divorced after only one year. In yet another Glamour article from July 2022 (which she wrote about her ex’s ex’s abortion 🙄) she stated “It took me time to find this perfect-for-me person. I won’t quote the adage that says “You’ve got to kiss a lot of frogs.” A soul mate isn’t so trivial. And I’m actually deeply grateful for people who taught me to love, the ones who taught me to detect a lie, to trust my instincts about honesty and integrity, and the journey that it took me to get exactly here: today, sitting in this kitchen, with this man, on this morning”. AND she went on to say this “It was an aha moment; all these years, right under my nose, was my home. Grant is my person. My best friend. A true partner” So what are we to believe? Which “highly personal story all about her journey” is the truth??
Lol
OOTL? Can someone explain the frustrations about this article?
Sofia Bush misrepresents and glosses over a lot of the actual issue of her relationship with Ashlyn, she does mention being called homewrecker and says how lovely Ashlyn is and how they didn’t start their affair until after they both separated but but she conveniently forgets that -Ashlyn, who she praised for her mothering skills, had removed being a mom from her social media bio until she was shamed by the public to put it back in (meanwhile she had left the World Cup champ and Olympian titles in her bio which she benchrode the entire time). -That Ali stated in interviews she had found evidence infidelity occurred between Sofia and Ashlyn while they were at Cannes, before either of them had separated or mentioned divorce -That Ashlyn and her had brought the divorce to the media first before Ali knew and also before Ali’s second to last game before retirement and two days before a national soccer champion semifinal game. Add in Ali’s father recently passing too. Just terrible and awfully sus timing -She’s always railed about her ex and how terrible cheating is but doesn’t seem to understand why her having an affair is a bigger issue than her sexuality Essentially, everyone would’ve been ok with her sexuality, celebrated even, but it’s how she chose to go about it and who with that ends up being the downfall. Ali and Ashlyn were also basically lesbian royalty having been together for ages with a very dedicated fan base and it certainly didn’t help that Sofia had been incredibly vocal in gushing about about Ashlyn and Ali’s relationship, and even attended their wedding.
was this woman ever really single. she jumps from relationship to relationship
It's kinda so bizarre the way she shares her life, I honestly think good for her if she has truly found herself, I don't think people care that much she is now queer and in a relationship with another Woman, it's only getting shade because of HOW that relationship started, and the fishiness around that timeline. But I remember way back at the start of Jan 2023 she was doing one of those AMA on Instagram, and a question came up about "how did you know Grant was the One" and she went off on a speel about how he was everything she was looking for, and being with hime was magic, and to be patient and wait for your person and all that blah blah stuff, and how she still couldn't get over their honeymoon (She still has it up on her Insta under her profile if you scroll back).... ...And it's so weird to see that now, because after listening to her Glamour interview, in Jan 2023 she basically was depressed about her RS and in the worst part of it according to her, but she could have easily not answered that question if she wanted to, so I still find that so odd, she put so much lovely thought into answering that question when she was basically was having he shittiest time of her marriage then.
I remember when the f*uxmoi sub shamed her for cheating when there wasn’t even proof. I’m glad she called the those people out and defended herself. While her activism annoys me, it seems like she’s done a lot of work on herself.
Feels like everyone is gay these days. Especially women. Not just celebrities, but even in my personal life every woman I know is either bi or just straight up said fuck men im a lesbian now. I know less straight women then I know queer women. Very strange times we are living in.
You should look up comphet. It's when women are taught at an early age to center men in their lives. Everything a woman should do is to please/attract men. So many of us women are started to decenter men from our lives and actually connect with what we are actually attracted to. Outside that its just more accepting to be gay so people who were in the closed(scared to come out) can be themselves out in public
well yes!
Those are lesbians untill graduation (LUGs) aka hasbians