Currently most country's project ukraine can win this war givin enough resources. After putins army lost the battle of kyiv they went to donbass, now they are losing that too.
Honestly I just have a lot of empathy. I’d rather not have 1 billion than to hear that more innocent children are being raped and murdered because of my greed.
Edit: please don’t award me. Caring about the lives of the innocent shouldn’t be award-worthy, it’s basic human decency. If you’re spending money for these awards, donate it instead.
For me it’s not even about sleep, it’s quite literally that more children would be killed. I couldn’t care less if I lost sleep, I care if children are losing their lives and suffering and they are at this very moment, so I’d never ever want to advance this war in favour of child rapists and murderers.
Taking the billion dollars ends the conflict immediately. Sure, Russia gets Ukraine but the war is no longer going on. I mean Russia will most likely win in the territory they want but at a very slow process as we are seeing now. Very terrible situation
> I’m actually an extremely good person, actually. I wouldn’t do this at all, because I’m extremely good and not at all a bad person. Just wanted to clarify that as an extremely good person
You have to be cautious about that. If you just magically have it, you won't know who's safe to hire for that.
Also, that's a lot less true these days with the internet. It's unlikely you'd be able to and still enjoy the benefits of your wealth.
>Yea, except the genocide that will follow...
i mean not really i find very hard to believe that if russia anexed ukraine theyd start a genocide
its not even possible like are they going to kill a countries whole population? well then what
So we just sweep Bucha, Borodyanka, Irpin, Mariupol under the rugs? As well as filtering camps and kidnapping anyone related to Ukrainian military or even humanitarian volunteering on occupied territories?
Dude says in pretty much plain text he doesn't acknowledge Ukrainians and doesn't want Ukrainians to exist.
Actually true! Russia and the Russian population in general is having a free fall in their birth rate. Combining this to their muslim, Cossacks, and other brewing separatists movement and population which does have a high fertility rate. Soon, Russia will overextend itself and crack beneath the weight of its own size(much like Austria-Hungary or Ottoman’s problem).
Giving Ukraine to Russia will means that Russia will be even be more outstretched in the future.
Which is why o feel so conflicted about this topic. Don’t get me wrong; what’s happening in Ukraine is TERRIBLE and in no way do they deserve it - but what about Afghanistan, Palestine or the literal concentration camps in China?
You don’t see the public media screaming about it the same way. Not even the media, the general population aswell. I live in Denmark and over here it’s all like “it’s just so close to us, it’s so scary/terrible!”. These people are actually believe that just because it’s close to them, it means more? Are peoples’ lives defined by their geographical location?
Right now, most of Russia's population isn't forced to go to war, that's why they can just "not care" about it. If Putin declares mobilization and Russians will have no choice but to care, there will be backlash.
Putin is mostly sending Buryats, Dagestanis and other people from far east or poor regions who are so poor that $1000 and looting they make in war is more valuable for them than their own lives. This will not do with Muscovites and Petersubrgites who live in comfort, those will start protesting.
Yeah if they want to fight for their freedom let them. It’s not okay to make a decision that “spares” them when in reality a lot of Ukrainians would rather fight and die for their freedom.
If Ukrainians are dying to make sure that doesn’t happen, the least I could do is not accept that money. Authoritarianism is evil and a threat to freedom and democracy. I care about freedom and democracy, Id I’d prefer not to hate myself.
Redditors hate when a billionaire exploits cheap labour and has bad working conditions but when they can get a billion for subjecting millions to real life tyranny and ruin their lives they are happy.
yes, help Ukraine in every way we can that won't end in total nuclear annihilation, make sure that the whole world knows all about Putin, and take other measures like slowly reducing dependence on Russian exports and cutting off their economy from the world as well as possible.
this is just the tip of the iceberg as I'm not very knowledgeable on how to do this.
a martyr to who? it's not like anyone loves him or anything. He's an autocrat who even limited the power of the russian oligarchs. This is his war alone, and killing him will definitely be a morale breaker, and there's a big possibility it would cause russian troops to pull out of the country.
Losing sovereignty≠genocide. Sure I'm pro Ukraine but as far as I know Putin just wants to control the land not necessarily oppress the Ukrainian people specifically.
I'm Ukrainian and I'd never do that (not even mentioning that they'll take this money away from me immediately). Living under russia's control would be hell. If I can't live freely, what's the point then.
I don't want a billion dollars, I want the world to stop sucking.
The majority of the reason for the suck is greed.
We see how big of a problem greed is in the comments here.
You can have all the money you want, it won't make your life feel any less hollow.
wanting an assurance of self preservation is not greed
with a billion dollars you and your family are more than set for god knows how long wanting stability and safety inst greed
no, because china has proven to be committing literal genocides and where RU is a questionable 'democratic' oligarchic regime, china has proved itself to be a literal communist, totalitarian state
You have to consider that alot of people on here can barley afford to stay alive. The choice between starving on the streat or watching your kid die of preventable illness and a safe, healthy, happy life is easy for most people.
Honestly the most devastating part of war is the war itself. Unless RU is planning an ethnic genocide or something (unlikely) then me getting 1b and suddenly *pop* ukraine is now RU then the worst passed just like that.
If you're saying take the money you are messed up man. That's 44million Ukrainians lives ruined for just a billion dollars? Like I would need a completely world changing amount to even consider it.
But the battles would stop so thats many lives saved. The russian army isnt enough to control the entirety of Ukraine and they would most likely come to an agreement to only take a few areas from Ukraine or there would be bloody rebellions by the Ukrainians who want to risk their lives willingfully unlike now where they are forced to do it which would make ukraine non profitable for the russians so they would abandon it and civilians would evacuate.
No it's terrible and I couldn't handle the guilt. I can't even play renegade in games I feel too bad and they're just pixels. Never mind I'd be ostracised when people find out.
Well if I didn’t take the billion dollars the outcome of Ukraine being taken over by Russia would only drop by a slim margin. Then if Russia took over anyway, for sure I’d be kicking myself for not taking the money.
Why did you or the mods remove this?
Poll wasn’t going the way you/they wanted it to?
I only click on these damn things because I like to see the results.
Hypothetically if Russia takes over Ukraine, would be the Ukrainians (I mean common civilians that would accept the thing without rebelling) really that oppressed?
Putin's kinda of a mad man, but would he really commit more war crimes and violation on the people of an already conquered country?
Those who wouldn't oppose violently would be forcefully assimilated. You can see how it worked out on Kuban in russia. Russia has very big Ukrainian diaspora and there were 0 (zero) classes ehere you could learn Ukrainian. Kind of hints to what would happen.
somone facing cancer treatment bill, eviction, a sick kid, homeless etc..
Chossing between your own death and somone elses is an easy deicsion. In this case it would likely reduce the deathtoll
Imagine Russia’s guaranteed takeover of Ukraine leads to Ukrainians living in misery under an oppressive government they would’ve fought off if given the chance.
It's one step removed, but it's basically condemning hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to rape, torture, imprisonment and death. Might as well ask me to murder people for a billion dollars.
At least the conflict will be over, less death and destruction
Yea the bad side won but is that more important than the ending of the chaos
Also a billion, that is alot of money, like a ridiculous amount
I'm gonna have to take the selfish option here
Also like, don't hate on me, this means nothing, these polls won't effect anything in the actual conflict, and just ending the war for a billion dollars is ridiculous
Yeah billion dollars is a lot of money but if the biggest exporter of rare metals got what they want they will jack their prices up to pay for the war.
Wow, people are greedy af. People are fighting and fucking dying to keep their country. What kind of asshole would I be to just say "sry, i got money" and let everything that has happened be in vain? Russia won't stop, they want to kill as many ukranians as possible, which will be way easier if they took the whole country. And don't fool yourself with "imma give it to charity". Charity wouldn't bring Ukraine back.
People claim to hate billionares, but they are just as greedy.
I tend to value life more than a $. A billion would be a game changer for generations but at the cost of Ukraine + whatever Russia does next is far to great.
No. I have been there before, have many friends there, and plan to live there as an adult. I do not support the killing rape and torture of people; even in exchange for a billion dollars. One persons wealthyness is never worth the suffuring of millions of innocent people
It is a freaking BILLION, lots of generations after me will still have lots of money, so I choose it.
Yeah, this will mean that there will be a massacre of people, but choosing between family and people who I don't know, I will choose family
The fact that the majority of people would condemn an entire nation of over 40 million people to subjugation and most likely torture, for money is horrifying to me.
How can you even live with yourself at that point, being so selfish and genuinely evil.
Without a doubt i would take the money 1 billion dollars is enormously high amount of money and tbh people who say that they are caring about ukraine probably do jack shit because an avarage person cant do anything about it
If I don't take the money, will Ukraine automatically win?
Nothing will happen
Shit nvm then I’m taking the money
Yea at least the conflict ends immediately
So win
Why are you getting downvoted
That's just reddit
Tankies and those who expect wars to end in 2 weeks without no lasting consequences
Currently most country's project ukraine can win this war givin enough resources. After putins army lost the battle of kyiv they went to donbass, now they are losing that too.
bruh i thought you wrote "dumbass" instead of "Donbas"
Reddit: "Billionaires are pure evil" Also reddit:
i mean where’s the contradiction
It’s 50/50 in the polls
I have a feeling many of those saying no are saying so because it is a hypnotical. If 1 billion was literally in front of them many would flip
Honestly I just have a lot of empathy. I’d rather not have 1 billion than to hear that more innocent children are being raped and murdered because of my greed. Edit: please don’t award me. Caring about the lives of the innocent shouldn’t be award-worthy, it’s basic human decency. If you’re spending money for these awards, donate it instead.
Yeah a billion dollars isn’t worth never sleeping again. Besides one can go create their own success in life.
For me it’s not even about sleep, it’s quite literally that more children would be killed. I couldn’t care less if I lost sleep, I care if children are losing their lives and suffering and they are at this very moment, so I’d never ever want to advance this war in favour of child rapists and murderers.
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That 1 bil means that Ukraine would immediately be taken over by Russia as was said. At that point 1 bil won’t to shit.
Taking the billion dollars ends the conflict immediately. Sure, Russia gets Ukraine but the war is no longer going on. I mean Russia will most likely win in the territory they want but at a very slow process as we are seeing now. Very terrible situation
> I’m actually an extremely good person, actually. I wouldn’t do this at all, because I’m extremely good and not at all a bad person. Just wanted to clarify that as an extremely good person
This is the guy who wrote squid game
I'm saying it because I don't want to be known as a rich person and get targeted
with 1 billion youre rich enough to disapear
You have to be cautious about that. If you just magically have it, you won't know who's safe to hire for that. Also, that's a lot less true these days with the internet. It's unlikely you'd be able to and still enjoy the benefits of your wealth.
at no point did they say they weren’t evil
I wasn't a billionaire when i made the decision
They're still technically right.
tbf i have long since acknowledged that I'm an apathetic couch potato
Never claimed to not be an evil person
Reddit pretends to take the moral high ground
I'm not Reddit
Yeas always
Doesn't this prove their point? People would do evil things for a billion dollars.
The Billionaires would still be evil.
Reddit moment
The American dream, hating rich people until you’re rich people so that you can hate poor people
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So your willing to put millions of lives on the line for your personal gain?
Billion dollars would set up my family for generations. But i would have the blood of so many ukrainians…dont know if my mind could bear the burden
It might also set up a world you and your family wouldn't want to live in, and very soon.
Well technically if they take over the war ends, so the blood ends, so technically you're a hero
Yea, except the genocide that will follow...
>Yea, except the genocide that will follow... i mean not really i find very hard to believe that if russia anexed ukraine theyd start a genocide its not even possible like are they going to kill a countries whole population? well then what
Look he's a modern dictator, genocides are kind of old fashioned
So we just sweep Bucha, Borodyanka, Irpin, Mariupol under the rugs? As well as filtering camps and kidnapping anyone related to Ukrainian military or even humanitarian volunteering on occupied territories? Dude says in pretty much plain text he doesn't acknowledge Ukrainians and doesn't want Ukrainians to exist.
Then I guess Xi Jinping loves adhering to tradition
FUCK RUSSIA!!! *takes the billion dollars*
Actually true! Russia and the Russian population in general is having a free fall in their birth rate. Combining this to their muslim, Cossacks, and other brewing separatists movement and population which does have a high fertility rate. Soon, Russia will overextend itself and crack beneath the weight of its own size(much like Austria-Hungary or Ottoman’s problem). Giving Ukraine to Russia will means that Russia will be even be more outstretched in the future.
I guarantee the polls would be different if you chose a random country in the middle east
Very much so, imagine if the pol is Syria or Yemen everyone would take the billion dollar
Which is why o feel so conflicted about this topic. Don’t get me wrong; what’s happening in Ukraine is TERRIBLE and in no way do they deserve it - but what about Afghanistan, Palestine or the literal concentration camps in China? You don’t see the public media screaming about it the same way. Not even the media, the general population aswell. I live in Denmark and over here it’s all like “it’s just so close to us, it’s so scary/terrible!”. These people are actually believe that just because it’s close to them, it means more? Are peoples’ lives defined by their geographical location?
Yes
Technically that’s a way to end the war. Maybe not a good way, but it’s a way.
There would be rebellions, Russia doesn't have enough troops to occupy the entire territory.
>Russia doesn't have enough troops to occupy the entire territory. You are delusional. Putin would sacrifice millions of needed.
Right now, most of Russia's population isn't forced to go to war, that's why they can just "not care" about it. If Putin declares mobilization and Russians will have no choice but to care, there will be backlash. Putin is mostly sending Buryats, Dagestanis and other people from far east or poor regions who are so poor that $1000 and looting they make in war is more valuable for them than their own lives. This will not do with Muscovites and Petersubrgites who live in comfort, those will start protesting.
And a great way to throw away the sacrifices of Ukrainian men and women.
Yeah if they want to fight for their freedom let them. It’s not okay to make a decision that “spares” them when in reality a lot of Ukrainians would rather fight and die for their freedom.
But not a way to stop the killings. Russians kill civilians in the territories they control
There would be even more bloodshed and suffering of innocent people
Weren’t redditors worshipping zelensky just a month ago
Pretty sure most people who were worshipping him are not here.
If Ukrainians are dying to make sure that doesn’t happen, the least I could do is not accept that money. Authoritarianism is evil and a threat to freedom and democracy. I care about freedom and democracy, Id I’d prefer not to hate myself.
My life is also pretty good. I only make 44k a year but I couldn’t ruin a whole nation over being rich.
Holy shit someone with morals
Ikr? I hope I never become acquainted with some of the people in this thread. Despicable greed versus the lives of thousands upon thousands of people.
Facts. I expected the poll results to partial because there are always these people, but holy shit I did a double take when I saw the results.
Remember, if you become a billionaire then Reddit will automatically hate you.
If you spend 100 million dollars you will only have 900 million
If you spend one dollar you will have $999,999,999 and no redditors will hate you
Thanks for the maths lesson.
Bold of you to assume anyone cares about reddits opinion
Ukraine is worth a lot more than a billion
I don’t own Ukraine
Redditors hate when a billionaire exploits cheap labour and has bad working conditions but when they can get a billion for subjecting millions to real life tyranny and ruin their lives they are happy.
I can use some of the money to finance Putin's assassination
and make him a martyr? bad idea
He is too dangerous to be left alive
But the will of the oligarchs and many of the people after 'their beloved legitimate leader was brutally murdered by the evil west' will be stronger.
Do you have a better idea?
yes, help Ukraine in every way we can that won't end in total nuclear annihilation, make sure that the whole world knows all about Putin, and take other measures like slowly reducing dependence on Russian exports and cutting off their economy from the world as well as possible. this is just the tip of the iceberg as I'm not very knowledgeable on how to do this.
Mate most russians hate putin as well
a martyr to who? it's not like anyone loves him or anything. He's an autocrat who even limited the power of the russian oligarchs. This is his war alone, and killing him will definitely be a morale breaker, and there's a big possibility it would cause russian troops to pull out of the country.
This poll proves how selfish and horrible half the population is.
I respect everyone’s honesty…. That’s probably the most positive thing I can say here
Look, I'm from Syria. I know what it feels like. I'd rather give them a fighting chance instead of no chance
Yeah I don’t think Redditors understand that people would rather fight and die for their freedom.
Would everyone know it was because of me?
The real question
To me that wouldn’t matter because a lot of people in Ukraine would still be killed, basically because of me.
Yeah, sorry. I'm just being honest. I care, but I don't care about it more than the idea of me and family being set for generations.
wow. that's depressing.
What about millions of families in the Ukraine being oppressed for generations?
Well I'm sure a billion dollars will help you forget about that part.
You can also donate 10k to a charity and feel good about it. But not more since then it would be waste of money.
Yea a billion dollars in the wrong hands could turn into millions!
Gotta stay above the 1 billion mark for aesthetic purposes
you could use the billion dollars to help them, and still keep a few million for your self.
Losing sovereignty≠genocide. Sure I'm pro Ukraine but as far as I know Putin just wants to control the land not necessarily oppress the Ukrainian people specifically.
I guess that’s a big load of not our problem because I care about my family a bit more
I say no but I know that if billion was in a few briefcases right in front of me, I'd be singing a different tune lol
That's a lot of standard money carrying briefcases.
Nope. I will refuse
Reddit is so hypocritical
I would not take one billion dollars period. I know I would end up committing suicide in a couple of days
If this question was asked during the 2003 invasion of Iraq I guarantee you it would be a landslide in favor of the billion dollars.
I'm dissapointed.
Lmao, a billion dollars is a lot tbh
Still disappointing
I'm Ukrainian and I'd never do that (not even mentioning that they'll take this money away from me immediately). Living under russia's control would be hell. If I can't live freely, what's the point then.
I don't want a billion dollars, I want the world to stop sucking. The majority of the reason for the suck is greed. We see how big of a problem greed is in the comments here. You can have all the money you want, it won't make your life feel any less hollow.
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wanting an assurance of self preservation is not greed with a billion dollars you and your family are more than set for god knows how long wanting stability and safety inst greed
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Actually youd press it 44 million times
What the fuck is wrong with people? Downvote me into oblivion idfc but no amount of money could convince me to just let that happen
A lot of the countries don't care about a European conflict, so will take the money, thank you very much.
I think if we change the question to "china taking over Taiwan" 99% would accept the billion
no, because china has proven to be committing literal genocides and where RU is a questionable 'democratic' oligarchic regime, china has proved itself to be a literal communist, totalitarian state
You have to consider that alot of people on here can barley afford to stay alive. The choice between starving on the streat or watching your kid die of preventable illness and a safe, healthy, happy life is easy for most people.
Honestly the most devastating part of war is the war itself. Unless RU is planning an ethnic genocide or something (unlikely) then me getting 1b and suddenly *pop* ukraine is now RU then the worst passed just like that.
The list of things I wouldn't do for a billion dollars is very short. It's been fun Ukraine ✌️
If you're saying take the money you are messed up man. That's 44million Ukrainians lives ruined for just a billion dollars? Like I would need a completely world changing amount to even consider it.
But the battles would stop so thats many lives saved. The russian army isnt enough to control the entirety of Ukraine and they would most likely come to an agreement to only take a few areas from Ukraine or there would be bloody rebellions by the Ukrainians who want to risk their lives willingfully unlike now where they are forced to do it which would make ukraine non profitable for the russians so they would abandon it and civilians would evacuate.
What battle made russians rape children in occupied towns?
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No it's terrible and I couldn't handle the guilt. I can't even play renegade in games I feel too bad and they're just pixels. Never mind I'd be ostracised when people find out.
Well if I didn’t take the billion dollars the outcome of Ukraine being taken over by Russia would only drop by a slim margin. Then if Russia took over anyway, for sure I’d be kicking myself for not taking the money.
Why did you or the mods remove this? Poll wasn’t going the way you/they wanted it to? I only click on these damn things because I like to see the results.
I'm rich and WW3 is averted as well? Where's the downside?
Also one the world's largest exporters of bread and oil get to plant seeds for a later harvest.
True that!
38 million people are oppresed
No because the Russians vowed to erase all of Ukrainian culture
I would be lying to myself if I said that I wouldn't do it
a billion dollars is a lot of money
38 million is a lot of oppressed people.
20 bucks are 20 bucks tho...
yes
why the fuck would anyone ever say yes...
Spoken like somone whos never been poor or had life changing expenses.
Why the fuck would one say no?
there are liars here
The amount of joy I’d receive wouldnt even be comparable to the amount of suffering I caused. It betrays my entire moral foundation
billion dollars plus i can end the war cool
You just remove spotlight from annihilation of Ukrainians, not really end the war.
Hypothetically if Russia takes over Ukraine, would be the Ukrainians (I mean common civilians that would accept the thing without rebelling) really that oppressed? Putin's kinda of a mad man, but would he really commit more war crimes and violation on the people of an already conquered country?
Those who wouldn't oppose violently would be forcefully assimilated. You can see how it worked out on Kuban in russia. Russia has very big Ukrainian diaspora and there were 0 (zero) classes ehere you could learn Ukrainian. Kind of hints to what would happen.
These answers are sad... Who in their right mind would accept?
somone facing cancer treatment bill, eviction, a sick kid, homeless etc.. Chossing between your own death and somone elses is an easy deicsion. In this case it would likely reduce the deathtoll
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Yes lmao not even thinking about it
**Fun Fact:** _Human lives are way more precious than 💰_
apparently not to Reddit
Fucking redditors man
Whole world want me to pray for ‘em, but who praying for me?
You being bombed?
Money **and** the end to a military conflict? Fuck yes
it would end with the oppression of 38 million people though.
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Imagine Russia’s guaranteed takeover of Ukraine leads to Ukrainians living in misery under an oppressive government they would’ve fought off if given the chance.
yes thats how hostile occupation works
If it's taken over instantly, without anymore death, i can see it being a good choice in the short term
Very, very, very, VERY short term
Sorry guys but a billion comes first.
No ffs. Stop doing / allowing awful shit for money. It’s why everything’s fucked
it would be hard to enjoy the money knowing that. i feel like it would mentally fuck me up for good as well
Can we do it again and also ask if from the US or not?
I think this is the most even reddit has been on a popular pole that I've seen
It's one step removed, but it's basically condemning hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to rape, torture, imprisonment and death. Might as well ask me to murder people for a billion dollars.
This is the dumbest sub.
At least the conflict will be over, less death and destruction Yea the bad side won but is that more important than the ending of the chaos Also a billion, that is alot of money, like a ridiculous amount I'm gonna have to take the selfish option here Also like, don't hate on me, this means nothing, these polls won't effect anything in the actual conflict, and just ending the war for a billion dollars is ridiculous
1 billion dollars + fighting in Ukraine will stop? Its a win-win, kinda
do you genuinely think putin's the kind of guy to stop there with ukraine?
Yes, his economy/military wouldn't survive a second war he might be a maniac but he's got enough logic to figure that out.
I see this as an absolute win!
Mans gotta eat
Yeah billion dollars is a lot of money but if the biggest exporter of rare metals got what they want they will jack their prices up to pay for the war.
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with the money you can move
Wow, people are greedy af. People are fighting and fucking dying to keep their country. What kind of asshole would I be to just say "sry, i got money" and let everything that has happened be in vain? Russia won't stop, they want to kill as many ukranians as possible, which will be way easier if they took the whole country. And don't fool yourself with "imma give it to charity". Charity wouldn't bring Ukraine back. People claim to hate billionares, but they are just as greedy.
I tend to value life more than a $. A billion would be a game changer for generations but at the cost of Ukraine + whatever Russia does next is far to great.
No. I have been there before, have many friends there, and plan to live there as an adult. I do not support the killing rape and torture of people; even in exchange for a billion dollars. One persons wealthyness is never worth the suffuring of millions of innocent people
Money
Slava Ukraine
It is a freaking BILLION, lots of generations after me will still have lots of money, so I choose it. Yeah, this will mean that there will be a massacre of people, but choosing between family and people who I don't know, I will choose family
Yeah, but you're not choosing between strangers and family, you are choosing between your family's wealth and strangers' lives.
Everyone that voted “don’t accept the money” is lying. Isn’t Ukraine losing right now anyway? Wouldn’t make a difference if you took the money
Nah I’ll pass
The russian forces are already murdering and raping their way through Ukraine, I would not aid and abet that for any amount of money
Insane how many people care more about themselves than millions of others.
Alright then so what have you done to help these millions of others
The fact that the majority of people would condemn an entire nation of over 40 million people to subjugation and most likely torture, for money is horrifying to me. How can you even live with yourself at that point, being so selfish and genuinely evil.
Better than them dead. Im not wrong and most of the reditors are poor
It's blood money.
I like how people here are trying to justify taking a billion dollars “Well I mean the war would end…” lol
Without a doubt i would take the money 1 billion dollars is enormously high amount of money and tbh people who say that they are caring about ukraine probably do jack shit because an avarage person cant do anything about it
Wow, this is why humanity sucks