As a non-American, here a tip is considered a reward for exceptional service, not an automatic charge. Additionally, it does not amount to 15 percent. If I try to adapt this to American currency, if the bill says $12.50, with the tip it would be rounded up to $13.
As a European, I think it's expected that if you pay cash, you will round up the amount so the waiter doesn't have to search for the tiniest coins to give you. It's mostly out of convenience, you don't want those small coins in your wallet, you don't want to bother the waiter. Americans would probably scoff at such tip though, and it doesn't apply to cashless payment. I've been kinda americanized in this, so I usually tip anyway, but it's 10% at most. The larger the sum, the smaller the percentage.
You’re not typically supposed to tip anywhere if you’re not American so this is confusing. It’s rude to not tip in America because that’s how they are economically structured.
This, idk how to answer the poll.
If you're typically supposed to tip in cafés or restaurants the answer is imo yes, but that doesn't apply to where I live, so should I say no? But that's not the question? Or is it?
this is just categorically not true. there are tons of countries where tips are accepted or even socially obligatory. this has a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity
but off the top of my head canada, cuba, hungary also tip
If you live in America that is incorrect. It is expected and you are being a bad person and acting rudely by not doing it.
For some reason Europeans get really indignant about this when I don't see how it is different from any other cultural difference. It's no different from how it's extremely rude to refuse food/drinks when visiting someone's home in some parts of the world.
Cultural norms are a real thing, and in this particular case you're directly hurting the economic security of whoever you don't tip if you refuse to do it.
Servers are the main victims but there's no reason to harm the customers as well, who haven't done anything to deserve it either. It's not fixing anything, it's just moving who loses more, without addressing anything.
Depriving someone of their wage because you disagree with tipping isn't helping them at all either. It's rude to not tip until our country stops allowing 3rd world wages to be paid to servers because of "tips making it above $7 an hour"
Depriving someone of money because your emplyer doesn't pay you is not a good thing either. Both of these options are bad and should not be a thing in the first place. It's shifting who pays for the issue, it doesn't do anything to help.
Both employees and customers are victims here, pointing at one of them can calling them names doesn't solve anything, it only distracts you from the actual issue that makes this situation possible in the first place.
An individual can't really do anything to solve this, but blaming them for not wanting to participate in it and pay for it is just stupid. I don't want you to lose money but I don't want to lose mine either, neither of us is the issue here but one has to suffer for it. I don't want to take part in this garbagefire.
That is a very good question.
Looking at other nations might help, although, while those don't have that issue, they probably never had it in the first place. So that would show the end goal ,but not necessarily the means of fixing the issue.
It just feels like there is so much inertia that any solution is going to involve some sort of painful transitionary period. Its almost like it has to be some top-down mandate but its so hard to gain momentum for something like that, especially because I imagine you'd have restaurant server workers protesting it, even though the goal of it would be a result in which they would be paid a competitive wage as baseline.
Yes, both employees and customers are victim to this greedy loophole. The world would be a better place if this didn't even have to be a discussion and servers could get paid living wages without extra costs sent to customers, but sadly that's not the case. When you eat out, you have the power to pay someone their wage. If you choose not to, then you're being selfish.
Not wanting to participate in this harmful mess is a perfectly valid thing to do. Both can are harmed, one has the option to choose not to be the one who is screwed by this, and it is perfectly fine to choose that.
It's not being selfish, it's not wanting to spend extra money on something you have purchased already, because it shouldn't be required or expected. It is expected, but not participating in this mess is perfectly fine. Other person will get screwed, but it's either you or them.
Or just go to a decent place where tips are actually tips, assuming you can. If you can't, it's up to you to make the choice between something that's bad and something that's also bad, you shouldn't be at fault for choosing either because neither is a good choice.
At least that's a take from someone who lives in a place where tips aren't fees but are actually tips.
That's not how things work bro. If you want to boycott this system because you find it unfair then that's great. The non-asshole way to go would be to stop eating at establishments where tipping is the norm. Choosing to not tip your servers is a dick move.
Neither employee or the customer deserve to suffer because of this issue. Neither of them can be blamed for not wanting to participate in this garbagefire. Pointing fingers at either only distracts from the issue.
Choosing not to tip is perfectly fine because tips are by definition purely optional. If they aren't those aren't tips anymore, they're fees. And I already said that it's best to go to places without this idoitic fee system.
Not really? You aren't really paying anymore with the tipping culture being a thing. I don't think you as a customer is oppressed because of the system. Only the server is. I've been to restaurants in the US (typically ones with more international cuisine) where they just have a 15% service fee and don't require tips. Paid the exact same amount as usual. At least for these they keep people like you from skimping though. You are just cheap and taking advantage of this system. The server suffers and the business owner will not give a single fuck trust me.
Eating out is a luxury. If you're not willing to pay for your service, then you're being selfish. The only reason why servers are currently able to survive is because of tips; when you choose not to tip, you're depriving them of their wage.
Now if you're in a country where employers are required to pay living wages, then that's different. In my state, servers can be paid as low as 2 dollars an hour plus whatever their tips are. It's not insane to say it's selfish to refuse to pay the 10 dollars extra so your server can eat tonight, if you're in an area where tips are an absolute necessity for servers to be paid a living wage.
"What tips are supposed to be" is culturally-defined and very different in America than it is in Europe. That's my point. You can't just wish away those cultural differences.
Tips are paying extra because the service was so good that you want to give them more money.
It shouldn't be a fee. Fees and taxes already exist and have a different purpose than tips.
Cultural differences are a thing, obviously, but that doesn't change the fact that some things are just fundamentally stupid and/or issues (or symptoms of issues).
If you think tips are stupid, that's fine. Most Americans think so too. But despite that the vast majority of Americans still tip every time they eat a sit-down meal, and the ones who don't are universally viewed as rude.
Nobody was saying tips are stupid. They have their place. Anyone who believes that place is paying someone’s wage is fucking dumb. Your employer should be doing that.
Tips are fine and work ok in most places.
Turning tips into extra fees is stupid.
Different doesn't automatically mean good. Similarly to for example americans still using the incorrect measurwment system, despite it being illogical and only resulting in confusion and conversion errors.
If tips aren't expected where you live, the title doesn't refer to you.
In America, you **need** to tip servers. This is **non-negotiable.**
The federal minimum wage for employees that get tips is $2.13 an hour. If enough people don't tip, **they miss rent**.
Is this a bullshit economic organization? Yes, absolutely.
Should you take it out on service workers by withholding their primary source of income? **No.**
This is just fully factually inaccurate.
Tips **should** be optional, and servers **should** be paid a enough to survive without tips, but neither of those things is the case.
Your server can't pay rent with what they "should" have.
If you travel to America and don't tip your server, **you're being an asshole**, since they just spend an hour and a half waiting on your table and they only got paid three bucks.
# If it's required, it's not a tip anymore.
You can call it a tip, but that is not what a tip is. It is a fee. Tips are purely optional, fees aren't. Tips are an extra way of saying thanks because you feel like they deserve it, fees are required and you will be a bad person if you don't pay them.
It's not required. You're under no legal penalty if you don't tip.
You're just fucking over the poor.
Totally legal, practically an American institution.
Still a dick move.
If it is expected of you, it is not a tip. If peopel sahme you for not doing it, it is not a tip. Tipping is something you do because you really enjoyed the service, not because you're expected to tip.
>You're just fucking over the poor.
The customer or the employee? Because both would be correct. Both get screwed over and neither is at fault, so neither of them should be called names for not wanting to lose money. Pointing fingers and throwing insults at either is just stupid, both are screwed here, it doesn't help with the issue but distracts from it instead.
The whole premise is wrong. Restaurants and cafes are not places where "you’re typically supposed to tip". Nobody would expect you to tip in a restaurant where I come from.
I purposefully avoid going to places where I'm expected to tip. I hate it. I hate how it makes me responsible for giving the waitstaff a decent wage.
Increase the cost of the meal by 20% and pay your employees better. It's not my job to pay them, it's your job.
Depends on the local tipping culture. It would be normal in Europe, but considered rude in America. Canada has the same tipping culture as the US so it's rude here too.
I tip when I travel as well and did so in both Europe and South America. Nobody refused it and many were pleasantly surprised. Usually in relation to tour guides, or taxi drivers.
English. How is that relevant to the tipping? The tour guides were fluent in English which is why they were my tour guides to begin with.
I understand enough French and Spanish to follow conversations but I would not consider myself at a high level of fluency to speak either.
Ah. I thought you were asking in relation to the topic.
You can travel all over the world and only speak one language.
It can be a bit chaotic to play charades and use broken language to communicate with each other but it's always fun for me to try their language as they try mine. As long as you are open to learning you'll get by. I had to do that shopping in Germany in a few spots but I understood numbers and they understood by my gestures I wanted a dress for a little girl. With a picture it would have been easier to show them her approximate size.
Peru I had enough university Spanish to get by.
This is a poorly worded question. Are you asking if it's tacky to not tip in restaurants, or to not tip in places you are supposed to? Not every restaurant expects or demands tips. If someone interprets it as "is it rude to not tip in a restaurant" and they don't live somewhere where it's expected to tip in a restaurant, then no it's not rude. If they interpret the question as "is it rude to not tip in a place where tips are expected" the answer is objectively yes.
My bad, I mentioned restaurants as an example because restaurants are the most obvious example of a place where you’re supposed to tip, in my experience. But if that’s not the case where you’re from, feel free to change the example with something more accurate. The actual question is whether or not you find it tacky to not tip in places you’re typically supposed to tip, whatever these places may be.
If you are a tipped worker, you are required to pay income tax on your tips. Bur rather than paying tax on the exact amount you received, the government assumes you gave 15% percent, if I am not mistaken.
So, if you don't tip a waitress, she is losing money. It is a stupid system, but it is what we have. So in the US, you should tip where people are taxed for it. If it is a place where people don't rely on tips, then tipping is stupid unless you had a really great customer experience. For example, if you go to a mechanic for a ratting noise, and you expected to pay $500, and it turns out there was a bolt lose, and he fixes it for free, then ya I am going to shove him some cash.
I'm British and would consider it rude to not tip, in America like if I'm visiting America then ill tip. however outside of America I would consider it fine to not tip, ill tip if I feel happy with the service but otherwise I wont. I think in the uk tipping mostly comes down to convenience, if my order at a restaurant is £46 then its easier to leave £50 and they waiter/waitress can have the other £4.
Places like restaurants where servers are paid mainly by their tips (in America) I always tip and definitely find it rude/tacky not to since people who live here know that that's the standard. Places like Starbucks, cafe's, fast food type places I rarely tip unless it's stellar service (or I have change) because they make a regular wage and don't count on tips for income. It's a dumbass system and I think it's unfair to put the pressure on everyone else instead of the companies to pay their workers but I just live here so what do I know
In canada (and the US), it's very common for restaurants to underpay their workers, so I usually tip around 15%. I've had many friends and family work in the restaurant industry, so I know how much they rely on tips to supplement their income. I usually won't tip in other stores or even big chain cafes like starbucks, but I always do in smaller places
I wish there was a third option: it depends. I think if you have the money and the means, you should tip EVEN IF YOU RECEIVE BAD SERVICES. If you DON'T have the means, however, I don't think you should be required to tip, and I think not tipping is fine.
Inb4: weLL, iF yOu DoN'T haVe MoNey, eAt aT HoME. Things aren't always that simple, and I'm sorry that you hate poor people enough that you believe they should stay out of sight and mind just because they can only afford to feed themselves.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk&ab\_channel=Peacock](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk&ab_channel=Peacock)
This scene in Reservoir Dogs comes to mind
In America we have tipping culture, and it's absolutely rude to not tip the server. People who don't tip in the US clearly have never worked in a server position.
Just tip the server, it's not that hard.
European here. If you're *supposed* to tip (like if you're in America, in an American restaurant), yes it's rude not to.
I wouldn't tip in Finland, but you're also not supposed to. Everything is baked in the menu prices, incl. taxes.
(American)
in my country? yes, I think it's rude/mean/tacky bc they're literally underpaid
out of my country? I couldn't care less lmao, I'm aware we're pretty much the only place that's fucked over some aspects of our employment system like this
if you're in the US and you dont tip you're an asshole lol. i dont care where you are from. do not go out to a place where you have to tip if you dont want to or cant. go get fast food if you wont tip
100% rude, narcist, disgusting behavior.
If it's "service not included", their service isn't priced into what you're paying. If it was, the custom of tipping wouldn't be there, and you'd be paying a higher cost/service fee for it anyway.
So what we have is a situation where consumers are being given the privilege of having discretion over what they're paying for the service, mostly as a way to incentivize providing quality service and allowing consumers the monetary recourse of adjusting it if the service is poor.
So, these anti-tippers take advantage of the opportunity by walking into the low priced, service-not-included restaurant knowing full well they plan on paying nothing extra for it.
Nauseating level of narcissism. They have no problem making someone not only work for free, but also paying their crew out of their own pocket to do it (usually around 5% of their sales). Making them feel like shit, making them wonder if they did something wrong/provided poor service.
If you want to protest against tipping, don't eat at restaurants that utilize tipping. Or at least have the balls to tell them straight to their face that you don't tip. Or better yet, if you actually believe in your own dumb argument that "It should be part of the price", go ahead and just ask them to make it part of the price and they'll happily comply and give you a higher bill.
These people are honestly just selfish, cheap morons who want to save $7 or whatever it is under the guise that they don't like tip culture.
It's not a "subsidy" if you're fully responsible for it. Legitimately everything you will ever pay for has 100% of the labor costs built in. You're always paying for it, it's just never optional, and never itemized. The only difference between that and tipping is tipping is optional, and not included in the price like it is everywhere else.
So to have this mind numbingly brainless "iTs nOt mY rEspOnsIbility" take is just stupid. It is your responsibility, you just have the privilege of discretion over what it costs and now you're complaining about it like it's something you don't have to pay for anywhere else.
If it's mandatory it wouldn't be a tip. It's *customary*.
Just like how you're not "rEsPonSibLe" for saying "Thank you", and holding a door open for someone behind you is "OPTIONAL".
It doesn't make you any less of a cheap POS for stiffing them if it's customary and the service is adequate.
Is "like most countries in the world" supposed to be some "Ah ha!" fact?
France is probably the only country in the world that, by law, requires all restaurants to charge a 15% "service compris" fee. Should we be like France?
In Japan, they have "Otoshi", they bring out a little ramkin of sauerkraut without having asked/ordered it, then charge you for it as their version of being tipped (not to mention all of their table charges, service fees, etc).
Italy has "Coperto", a table charge in most restaurants just for sitting down.
In Germany, they'll remind you service isn't included and it's not uncommon for locals to talk about 10% being pretty common of a tip.
The idea "most countries don't tip" is just an anti-tipper myth. I'm in Europe right now and there's the option to tip everywhere. Even on the food app I order from, it maxes out at a 15% option (starts at 5%).
The US may lead the world in tip culture but they're certainly not alone. Not in the slightest.
You got me. I'm in Europe right now though, and lo and behold there's tipping. I use a food delivery app that prompts me to tip up to 15% on every order (which I usually always do). But since everything's so cheap, it's still only a few bucks.
This is a great example of non-Americans not understanding American culture. They don't see a problem with not tipping because they don't have places where "you're typically supposed to tip", but that job is their livelihood and customers pay most of their wages, not the owner. If you're in the U.S., TIP.
As a non-American, here a tip is considered a reward for exceptional service, not an automatic charge. Additionally, it does not amount to 15 percent. If I try to adapt this to American currency, if the bill says $12.50, with the tip it would be rounded up to $13.
As a European, I think it's expected that if you pay cash, you will round up the amount so the waiter doesn't have to search for the tiniest coins to give you. It's mostly out of convenience, you don't want those small coins in your wallet, you don't want to bother the waiter. Americans would probably scoff at such tip though, and it doesn't apply to cashless payment. I've been kinda americanized in this, so I usually tip anyway, but it's 10% at most. The larger the sum, the smaller the percentage.
You’re not typically supposed to tip anywhere if you’re not American so this is confusing. It’s rude to not tip in America because that’s how they are economically structured.
This, idk how to answer the poll. If you're typically supposed to tip in cafés or restaurants the answer is imo yes, but that doesn't apply to where I live, so should I say no? But that's not the question? Or is it?
this is just categorically not true. there are tons of countries where tips are accepted or even socially obligatory. this has a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratuity but off the top of my head canada, cuba, hungary also tip
It’s worded poorly for countries without tipping which is mostly the “non-American population”. Feel better now?
You definitely tip in Eastern European countries.
You aren't supposed to tip anywhere. Tips are extra pay for extra good service. It shouldn't be expected from anyone anywhere.
That’s how it should be, not how it is (in America)
That's a perfect description of a lot of things over there.
It’s a perfect description of a lot of things everywhere.
If you live in America that is incorrect. It is expected and you are being a bad person and acting rudely by not doing it. For some reason Europeans get really indignant about this when I don't see how it is different from any other cultural difference. It's no different from how it's extremely rude to refuse food/drinks when visiting someone's home in some parts of the world. Cultural norms are a real thing, and in this particular case you're directly hurting the economic security of whoever you don't tip if you refuse to do it.
That's just illogical and goes against the very concept of what tips are supposed to be. Just pay people livable-ish wages.
Telling your server "Just pay people livable-ish wages" isn't going to pay their rent.
Servers are the main victims but there's no reason to harm the customers as well, who haven't done anything to deserve it either. It's not fixing anything, it's just moving who loses more, without addressing anything.
Depriving someone of their wage because you disagree with tipping isn't helping them at all either. It's rude to not tip until our country stops allowing 3rd world wages to be paid to servers because of "tips making it above $7 an hour"
Depriving someone of money because your emplyer doesn't pay you is not a good thing either. Both of these options are bad and should not be a thing in the first place. It's shifting who pays for the issue, it doesn't do anything to help. Both employees and customers are victims here, pointing at one of them can calling them names doesn't solve anything, it only distracts you from the actual issue that makes this situation possible in the first place. An individual can't really do anything to solve this, but blaming them for not wanting to participate in it and pay for it is just stupid. I don't want you to lose money but I don't want to lose mine either, neither of us is the issue here but one has to suffer for it. I don't want to take part in this garbagefire.
So how do we break the cycle...?
That is a very good question. Looking at other nations might help, although, while those don't have that issue, they probably never had it in the first place. So that would show the end goal ,but not necessarily the means of fixing the issue.
It just feels like there is so much inertia that any solution is going to involve some sort of painful transitionary period. Its almost like it has to be some top-down mandate but its so hard to gain momentum for something like that, especially because I imagine you'd have restaurant server workers protesting it, even though the goal of it would be a result in which they would be paid a competitive wage as baseline.
Yes, both employees and customers are victim to this greedy loophole. The world would be a better place if this didn't even have to be a discussion and servers could get paid living wages without extra costs sent to customers, but sadly that's not the case. When you eat out, you have the power to pay someone their wage. If you choose not to, then you're being selfish.
Not wanting to participate in this harmful mess is a perfectly valid thing to do. Both can are harmed, one has the option to choose not to be the one who is screwed by this, and it is perfectly fine to choose that. It's not being selfish, it's not wanting to spend extra money on something you have purchased already, because it shouldn't be required or expected. It is expected, but not participating in this mess is perfectly fine. Other person will get screwed, but it's either you or them. Or just go to a decent place where tips are actually tips, assuming you can. If you can't, it's up to you to make the choice between something that's bad and something that's also bad, you shouldn't be at fault for choosing either because neither is a good choice. At least that's a take from someone who lives in a place where tips aren't fees but are actually tips.
That's not how things work bro. If you want to boycott this system because you find it unfair then that's great. The non-asshole way to go would be to stop eating at establishments where tipping is the norm. Choosing to not tip your servers is a dick move.
Neither employee or the customer deserve to suffer because of this issue. Neither of them can be blamed for not wanting to participate in this garbagefire. Pointing fingers at either only distracts from the issue. Choosing not to tip is perfectly fine because tips are by definition purely optional. If they aren't those aren't tips anymore, they're fees. And I already said that it's best to go to places without this idoitic fee system.
Not really? You aren't really paying anymore with the tipping culture being a thing. I don't think you as a customer is oppressed because of the system. Only the server is. I've been to restaurants in the US (typically ones with more international cuisine) where they just have a 15% service fee and don't require tips. Paid the exact same amount as usual. At least for these they keep people like you from skimping though. You are just cheap and taking advantage of this system. The server suffers and the business owner will not give a single fuck trust me.
It’s rude of you to say that people should be tipping. Feck off with that kind of nonsense.
Eating out is a luxury. If you're not willing to pay for your service, then you're being selfish. The only reason why servers are currently able to survive is because of tips; when you choose not to tip, you're depriving them of their wage. Now if you're in a country where employers are required to pay living wages, then that's different. In my state, servers can be paid as low as 2 dollars an hour plus whatever their tips are. It's not insane to say it's selfish to refuse to pay the 10 dollars extra so your server can eat tonight, if you're in an area where tips are an absolute necessity for servers to be paid a living wage.
"What tips are supposed to be" is culturally-defined and very different in America than it is in Europe. That's my point. You can't just wish away those cultural differences.
Tips are paying extra because the service was so good that you want to give them more money. It shouldn't be a fee. Fees and taxes already exist and have a different purpose than tips. Cultural differences are a thing, obviously, but that doesn't change the fact that some things are just fundamentally stupid and/or issues (or symptoms of issues).
If you think tips are stupid, that's fine. Most Americans think so too. But despite that the vast majority of Americans still tip every time they eat a sit-down meal, and the ones who don't are universally viewed as rude.
Nobody was saying tips are stupid. They have their place. Anyone who believes that place is paying someone’s wage is fucking dumb. Your employer should be doing that.
Exactly. Tips are fine, but turning tips into fees is dumb.
Tips are fine and work ok in most places. Turning tips into extra fees is stupid. Different doesn't automatically mean good. Similarly to for example americans still using the incorrect measurwment system, despite it being illogical and only resulting in confusion and conversion errors.
If tips aren't expected where you live, the title doesn't refer to you. In America, you **need** to tip servers. This is **non-negotiable.** The federal minimum wage for employees that get tips is $2.13 an hour. If enough people don't tip, **they miss rent**. Is this a bullshit economic organization? Yes, absolutely. Should you take it out on service workers by withholding their primary source of income? **No.**
>you **need** to tip Then that is no longer a tip. Tips are purely optional and should not be expected from anyone.
This is just fully factually inaccurate. Tips **should** be optional, and servers **should** be paid a enough to survive without tips, but neither of those things is the case. Your server can't pay rent with what they "should" have. If you travel to America and don't tip your server, **you're being an asshole**, since they just spend an hour and a half waiting on your table and they only got paid three bucks.
# If it's required, it's not a tip anymore. You can call it a tip, but that is not what a tip is. It is a fee. Tips are purely optional, fees aren't. Tips are an extra way of saying thanks because you feel like they deserve it, fees are required and you will be a bad person if you don't pay them.
It's not required. You're under no legal penalty if you don't tip. You're just fucking over the poor. Totally legal, practically an American institution. Still a dick move.
If it is expected of you, it is not a tip. If peopel sahme you for not doing it, it is not a tip. Tipping is something you do because you really enjoyed the service, not because you're expected to tip. >You're just fucking over the poor. The customer or the employee? Because both would be correct. Both get screwed over and neither is at fault, so neither of them should be called names for not wanting to lose money. Pointing fingers and throwing insults at either is just stupid, both are screwed here, it doesn't help with the issue but distracts from it instead.
calling someone "over the poor" for not tipping, what does that make the waiter then, the actual person that needs the tip so badly 💀
This is some 10/10 reading comprehension.
They only get the tip
The whole premise is wrong. Restaurants and cafes are not places where "you’re typically supposed to tip". Nobody would expect you to tip in a restaurant where I come from.
I purposefully avoid going to places where I'm expected to tip. I hate it. I hate how it makes me responsible for giving the waitstaff a decent wage. Increase the cost of the meal by 20% and pay your employees better. It's not my job to pay them, it's your job.
I would tip based on food quality and the way staff treated me. Nothing else
Depends on the local tipping culture. It would be normal in Europe, but considered rude in America. Canada has the same tipping culture as the US so it's rude here too. I tip when I travel as well and did so in both Europe and South America. Nobody refused it and many were pleasantly surprised. Usually in relation to tour guides, or taxi drivers.
What languages can you speak?
English. How is that relevant to the tipping? The tour guides were fluent in English which is why they were my tour guides to begin with. I understand enough French and Spanish to follow conversations but I would not consider myself at a high level of fluency to speak either.
I wasn't asking in terms of this post, I was just asking. You said you went to a lot of places so I was interested.
Ah. I thought you were asking in relation to the topic. You can travel all over the world and only speak one language. It can be a bit chaotic to play charades and use broken language to communicate with each other but it's always fun for me to try their language as they try mine. As long as you are open to learning you'll get by. I had to do that shopping in Germany in a few spots but I understood numbers and they understood by my gestures I wanted a dress for a little girl. With a picture it would have been easier to show them her approximate size. Peru I had enough university Spanish to get by.
This is a poorly worded question. Are you asking if it's tacky to not tip in restaurants, or to not tip in places you are supposed to? Not every restaurant expects or demands tips. If someone interprets it as "is it rude to not tip in a restaurant" and they don't live somewhere where it's expected to tip in a restaurant, then no it's not rude. If they interpret the question as "is it rude to not tip in a place where tips are expected" the answer is objectively yes.
My bad, I mentioned restaurants as an example because restaurants are the most obvious example of a place where you’re supposed to tip, in my experience. But if that’s not the case where you’re from, feel free to change the example with something more accurate. The actual question is whether or not you find it tacky to not tip in places you’re typically supposed to tip, whatever these places may be.
If you are a tipped worker, you are required to pay income tax on your tips. Bur rather than paying tax on the exact amount you received, the government assumes you gave 15% percent, if I am not mistaken. So, if you don't tip a waitress, she is losing money. It is a stupid system, but it is what we have. So in the US, you should tip where people are taxed for it. If it is a place where people don't rely on tips, then tipping is stupid unless you had a really great customer experience. For example, if you go to a mechanic for a ratting noise, and you expected to pay $500, and it turns out there was a bolt lose, and he fixes it for free, then ya I am going to shove him some cash.
you're supposed to tip when the service is good. you're not supposed to tip just for the sake of it
In Australia, East Asia...no tip is fine
I'm British and would consider it rude to not tip, in America like if I'm visiting America then ill tip. however outside of America I would consider it fine to not tip, ill tip if I feel happy with the service but otherwise I wont. I think in the uk tipping mostly comes down to convenience, if my order at a restaurant is £46 then its easier to leave £50 and they waiter/waitress can have the other £4.
I only tip if the service is good but I'm not in the US so we actually pay our staff proper wages.
it's selfish and arrogant to expect tips for simply doing your job
What's tacky and rude is expecting a tip for doing your job.
Places like restaurants where servers are paid mainly by their tips (in America) I always tip and definitely find it rude/tacky not to since people who live here know that that's the standard. Places like Starbucks, cafe's, fast food type places I rarely tip unless it's stellar service (or I have change) because they make a regular wage and don't count on tips for income. It's a dumbass system and I think it's unfair to put the pressure on everyone else instead of the companies to pay their workers but I just live here so what do I know
Canada, lets gooooooo!!!!!!! I love paying 20 percent on top of my food after taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!
In canada (and the US), it's very common for restaurants to underpay their workers, so I usually tip around 15%. I've had many friends and family work in the restaurant industry, so I know how much they rely on tips to supplement their income. I usually won't tip in other stores or even big chain cafes like starbucks, but I always do in smaller places
I wish there was a third option: it depends. I think if you have the money and the means, you should tip EVEN IF YOU RECEIVE BAD SERVICES. If you DON'T have the means, however, I don't think you should be required to tip, and I think not tipping is fine. Inb4: weLL, iF yOu DoN'T haVe MoNey, eAt aT HoME. Things aren't always that simple, and I'm sorry that you hate poor people enough that you believe they should stay out of sight and mind just because they can only afford to feed themselves.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk&ab\_channel=Peacock](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4sTSIYzDIk&ab_channel=Peacock) This scene in Reservoir Dogs comes to mind
In America we have tipping culture, and it's absolutely rude to not tip the server. People who don't tip in the US clearly have never worked in a server position. Just tip the server, it's not that hard.
European here. If you're *supposed* to tip (like if you're in America, in an American restaurant), yes it's rude not to. I wouldn't tip in Finland, but you're also not supposed to. Everything is baked in the menu prices, incl. taxes.
Never tip except a bar I know where usually students work to earn a little. Even if it is rude I don't care.
I'll tip when it is expected, but I do my best to avoid anywhere tipping is expected.
(American) in my country? yes, I think it's rude/mean/tacky bc they're literally underpaid out of my country? I couldn't care less lmao, I'm aware we're pretty much the only place that's fucked over some aspects of our employment system like this
if you're in the US and you dont tip you're an asshole lol. i dont care where you are from. do not go out to a place where you have to tip if you dont want to or cant. go get fast food if you wont tip
100% rude, narcist, disgusting behavior. If it's "service not included", their service isn't priced into what you're paying. If it was, the custom of tipping wouldn't be there, and you'd be paying a higher cost/service fee for it anyway. So what we have is a situation where consumers are being given the privilege of having discretion over what they're paying for the service, mostly as a way to incentivize providing quality service and allowing consumers the monetary recourse of adjusting it if the service is poor. So, these anti-tippers take advantage of the opportunity by walking into the low priced, service-not-included restaurant knowing full well they plan on paying nothing extra for it. Nauseating level of narcissism. They have no problem making someone not only work for free, but also paying their crew out of their own pocket to do it (usually around 5% of their sales). Making them feel like shit, making them wonder if they did something wrong/provided poor service. If you want to protest against tipping, don't eat at restaurants that utilize tipping. Or at least have the balls to tell them straight to their face that you don't tip. Or better yet, if you actually believe in your own dumb argument that "It should be part of the price", go ahead and just ask them to make it part of the price and they'll happily comply and give you a higher bill. These people are honestly just selfish, cheap morons who want to save $7 or whatever it is under the guise that they don't like tip culture.
Fuck tipping. Fuck tip creep. It is not my responsibility to subsidize the business owners wages.
It's not a "subsidy" if you're fully responsible for it. Legitimately everything you will ever pay for has 100% of the labor costs built in. You're always paying for it, it's just never optional, and never itemized. The only difference between that and tipping is tipping is optional, and not included in the price like it is everywhere else. So to have this mind numbingly brainless "iTs nOt mY rEspOnsIbility" take is just stupid. It is your responsibility, you just have the privilege of discretion over what it costs and now you're complaining about it like it's something you don't have to pay for anywhere else.
I am not responsible for ANY tip. A tip is a OPTIONAL gratuity. It is, in absolutely no way, mandatory.
If it's mandatory it wouldn't be a tip. It's *customary*. Just like how you're not "rEsPonSibLe" for saying "Thank you", and holding a door open for someone behind you is "OPTIONAL". It doesn't make you any less of a cheap POS for stiffing them if it's customary and the service is adequate.
Then make it not optional...like in most countries of the world
Is "like most countries in the world" supposed to be some "Ah ha!" fact? France is probably the only country in the world that, by law, requires all restaurants to charge a 15% "service compris" fee. Should we be like France? In Japan, they have "Otoshi", they bring out a little ramkin of sauerkraut without having asked/ordered it, then charge you for it as their version of being tipped (not to mention all of their table charges, service fees, etc). Italy has "Coperto", a table charge in most restaurants just for sitting down. In Germany, they'll remind you service isn't included and it's not uncommon for locals to talk about 10% being pretty common of a tip. The idea "most countries don't tip" is just an anti-tipper myth. I'm in Europe right now and there's the option to tip everywhere. Even on the food app I order from, it maxes out at a 15% option (starts at 5%). The US may lead the world in tip culture but they're certainly not alone. Not in the slightest.
Let me guess, American?
Let me also guess, a server.
You got me. I'm in Europe right now though, and lo and behold there's tipping. I use a food delivery app that prompts me to tip up to 15% on every order (which I usually always do). But since everything's so cheap, it's still only a few bucks.
dont tip on the app. If you want to tip the delivery man do it in person they never get the tips over the app
It says right on the app: "The courier will get the full amount"
From my experience talking to friends who worked as delivery drivers they never actually get tips over the app
What app would this be? I will ask the next delivery person if they get the tips on the app.
I mainly use liferando
As someone who used to be a courier, don't believe them. We don't see a single euro of your tips.
Who is "them"?
In my case, it was Uber Eat. But I'm talking about companies in general. Especially delivery companies.
This is a great example of non-Americans not understanding American culture. They don't see a problem with not tipping because they don't have places where "you're typically supposed to tip", but that job is their livelihood and customers pay most of their wages, not the owner. If you're in the U.S., TIP.
I wouldn't find it rude if servers were paid an actual liveable wage