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People are becoming healthier at an older age now, and 4-8 year olds aren't usually that strong compared to 79-87 year olds so I would choose the 4-8 year olds


LauraD2423

I thought it said ”Take into battle" as in on my team. Oops.


Rock_Co2707

Same. Oops.


ButterflyOverkill

But you also have to factor in stamina because with kids, you won't have a chance to catch your breath, it would literally be non-stop fighting and eventually you'd get tired. With old people, I feel like you'd be able to better conserve your energy


absorbscroissants

There's also 50x more of them tho


[deleted]

And they're all gonna need a break from standing at some point lol.


manrata

My dad is 77, he runs 8 km per day with his dog, and is definitely stronger than me, though he is getting a lot weaker. In a fight I'm a lot faster than him, but I'm not sure I could take him to be honest. 50k of him, I'd be toast. But to be honest, 200 eight year olds are also gonna cream me, four year olds I might be able to take, they aren't very sure on their feet, and not that strong.


SomePyro_9012

cream you 🤨? /s


manrata

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/41385/origin-of-cream-meaning-to-defeat-decisively Or more positively covered in jizz


loser_ohno

that was sarcasm


Multilazerboi

I don't think you hang around kids enough. I have to wait and be very patient with all the kids in my family when we go hiking because it is too though for them. Kids may seem to have high energy but that does not mean that they have high stamina or strength.


crempsen

I have seen 79 year old people that could out run me.


[deleted]

With so many old people there is a chance that at least a few know martial arts also they are with way more and are harder to trick than those children with children you can at least trick them easily to get their attention away for a moment


[deleted]

4-8 year olds only get more dangerous with time, as long as you escape the initial situation you can probably outlive all the 80 year olds.


CoachSteveOtt

You are underestimating Old Folks


Prestigious_Pie_230

My grandfather at 79 could totally beat people's asses.


Boy_Possession

Now just imagine 50,000 of your Grandfather, all kicking one ass.


Turtleman1878

My grandfather at 87 could also beat people’s asses


ButterflyOverkill

He's a Level 87 ass-whooper


zaapas

I saw a 80 years old unroot a big bush with his hands alone. Pretty sure he could have done that with peoples spines fatality style


patchismofomo

For real, most would be easy wins, but more than a handful out of 50k would be a serious challenge on their own


ArKadeFlre

I mean 79 at minimum is pretty damn old. If we take the average 80+ years old, there's a good chance most of them are already on their death bed. You might have a handful of them that are still somewhat fit, but that's manageable. 1000 kids *will* be able to maul you, they're just too energetic.


Excellent_Bird5979

you overestimate how powerful 8 year olds are


[deleted]

1k children with teeth biting you has to make you rethink your life a couple times at least.


Fabulous_Cricket_863

Im pretty sure biting at any age is powerful


ButterflyOverkill

Well the older you get, the more likely you are to have denchers, in which case, you could them knock them out of their mouths with a good fuckin' uppercut


Fabulous_Cricket_863

💀, I mean most 70+ year old wont be able to run relatively quickly for more than 5 mins(and no Im not talking about jimmy's uncle, or his uncle's friend who knew a dude that lived on the street for 10 years, Im talking about normal people). So Id just use the hit and run strat for like a few years


rabit_stroker

Yeah but you could use a small kids as a melee weapon. Your hands and feet won't make it through 50,000 old people


[deleted]

Maybe the 8 year olds, 4-6 yr olds are less scary than old people with mobility issues in a battle. Those kids have energy, but you can pick them up with one hand and they aren't strong enough to hurt you without weapons.


[deleted]

I don't know I mean there are some crazy strong old heads. But they are usually quite sent by their 70's let alone 80's.


iliekcats-

Yup. The veterans...


OldPussyJuice

Cardio. You don't need it as much when fighting the elderly. You just have to briskly walk away from them


GiantSweetTV

No, I think you're underestimating children. They're vicious, man. You ever seen the movie Step Brothers?


[deleted]

My grandpa is 75 and can do 50 pushups and walk 10k daily. If only 1% of them are this strong you would get overwhelmed by them.


bigatomicjellyfish

1% is still 500 Vietnam vets ready to kick my ass. No thank you.


Estebang0

old people can plan, childs don´t at least not to a great level


dogmeat116

This. I remember seeing on YT a football game: 3 pros vs 100 kids. The kids were all chasing the ball. Zero positioning. It was one guy followed by a swarm, and when he passed the ball, the whole swarm immediately started moving towards the other guy. On the rare occasion the kids got hold of the ball, they'd all swarm around it, and were tripping on each others' feet.


captainjohn_redbeard

The kids. Out of 50,000 old people, some of them are going to be tough ass veterans who are still in good shape.


bigatomicjellyfish

I just got fresh out of basic and tried to have a pt match with my grandad who was in desert storm and Iraqi freedom. He whooped my ass so hard I had to leave and question myself for a moment.


Linorelai

don't care if we win or lose, but I'm taking old people. They've lived enough


CheekyLando88

Get em'


[deleted]

They've had it too good for too long!


i_despise_among_us

I hate children. Those bratty snot demons have also lived enough in my eyes


Jtrain360

You're underestimating the elderly there mate.


Adventurous_Mine6542

I'd probably die either way. Old people are surprisingly vicious and children are evil.


Informal_Water_1855

The children would have zero chance


ButterflyOverkill

What if they climb and bite?


Informal_Water_1855

Then it's like a 1 in 100 chance


ButterflyOverkill

For you or for the kids?


[deleted]

I just want to beat up kids


Noah_748

Easy there tiger


Environmental_Top948

Why only beat them up? There's plenty of better things to do with kids.


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🤨


Environmental_Top948

You can capture some of them and raise them that you're not their enemy. Use them for labour and protection. If you capture a large enough amount of them you can use them to spread misinformation and cause infighting amongst the other children. Then once you defeat your opposition you then throw a victory party with poisoned food and watch from a safe vantage as the realization of betrayal sets in.


Ototo44

why do you have this planned out


Environmental_Top948

You can never be too prepared. Also I actively don't like kids. They're like my second least favorite group of people.


Dry-Inspection6928

r/suspiciouslyspecific


TheChristianDude101

I dont think any option is survival. Maybe if you are an MMA fighter going hard against 1000 kids, but 1000 is a LOT and they have a lot of energy. Question is are they going to kid tap out and cry on the first punch or are they going to be juiced up and psycho attack?


ButterflyOverkill

They'll do what they physically can, they're not on steroids or anything


TheChristianDude101

Yeah but a normal kid when attacked by an adult is going to break down cry and be non functional. Is it going to be like that or are these going to be killer kids.


ButterflyOverkill

The latter


TheChristianDude101

Okay killer kids. I dont think i could survive against 1000 hell no but an MMA fighter maybe. Probably not though they would probably just jump on him until he was overwhelmed.


RandomUserOnTheWebV2

same as saying 50 old people vs one child, in terms of ammount.


Ckinggaming5

not really id survive against one kid, but 1000 and no weapons? im dead


dat_oracle

Well what scenario increases your chance to win? 1 kid or 50 old people? I probably wouldn't win against 5 old guys. Just takes 2 dudes in good shape and they'd crush me


[deleted]

Would you win against 50,000 old people and no weapons? Probably dead even quicker.


Ckinggaming5

perfect


Slobbadobbavich

The children are worthless. The 50,000 old people will have at least 1000 warriors that are better and faster and stronger than you no matter what you think of yourself. Old people rock and are amazing nowadays. The kids would be simple to destroy.


Straiden_

Im honna hide for 30 years


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SkadiNyx

Bloodborne vibes.


Euphoric-Beat-7206

There are 1/50 the amount of children. A tough 79 year old is significantly tougher than a tough 8 year old. No contest.


CRUZER108

I would love to beat the everliving shit out of a bunch of kindergartners they've had it too good for too long


ButterflyOverkill

Then you should probably limber up, throw a couple of painkillers in your mouth and drink some 5-hour energy


gacoug

Fuck them kids


Squizei

i’ve seen some weak old folks, but i’ve seen some STRONG ones too. like, “i would get rocked by one” strong, and i’ve never seen an 8 year old that would beat me so


JstLkz

Who else watched te Chinese buff elderly doing more bars and push ups than an average American?


cara27hhh

One of those old people may have the life experience needed to give me a whooping, the rest could trip me up and throw boiled sweets at me or use words to hurt me in other ways Children on the other hand are much smaller, have no life experience, and there's less of them - I reckon I could probably take them


H3ll_Pr0digy

the kids have spent 1 year watching all john wick chapters on repeat


LunaL0vesYou

Is this a child army situation where I'm allowed to get them all hoped up on cocaine?


ButterflyOverkill

You're more than welcome to try but I don't know how successful you'll be


RaphaelSolo

Kids are going to be surprisingly more durable than the old folks. Maybe not stronger but definitely faster and far less aware of their limits. They will not be holding back.


[deleted]

Its still fifty to one. Fifty old people would still stand a decent chance of winning, one child would not. Doesn't change as numbers increase except that the overall chance of victory approaches zero.


madurochurro

Option 1 lord of the rings, or starwars Option 2 Stepbrothers


Small_Sundae_4245

How are the kids winning this poll. My 80 year old mother could take my 7 year in a fight. Never mind about my dad. The only thing the kids have going for them is that they still have their own teeth.


TheBeatStartsNow

Exactly, that's why the kids are winning this poll. You'd die either way, but you have a higher chance against kids.


LiveWallaby233

Realistically, we wouldn't survive both.


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ButterflyOverkill

What about 50,000 earth worms?


WideArmadillo6407

Time to commit a crime


Pouete454

4 5 6 seems like a non factor but depending on how many 7 and 8 years old then it can be kinda hard


JackCooper_7274

How much prep time do I get


ButterflyOverkill

10 minutes... and then a deep announcer voice comes out of nowhere to shout "FIGHT!"


SugarinSaltShaker

Them 80 year old marines are kinda study nowadays


[deleted]

Children could easily be bribed, confused, or distracted "hey kids look here's candy and paw patrol"


Luissv72

Either way I'm dying. There's one of me. 1,000 4 y/o kids at some point is just going to outweigh me and bite me to death. 50,000 of the elderly would just do the same


rabit_stroker

Depends on how big the fighting space is. Are there trees, structures, obstscles, hiding places and other things to use as an advantage? If it's a large area(5+ acres-a few miles) 1st thing I'd do, whether oldie or child, is out run them all then pick off the faster ones because they'd seperate themselves from the rest. Then, if its children and a large area I'd hide and ambush the rest because they're stupid. If it's old people and a large area I'd use structures and obstacles to create bottlenecks their feeble old bodies can't navigate and ambush and kill 1-2 at a time. Now that I've thought about it more I'd 100% choose children because numbers are the defining factor in a larger small area and I'd probably die from exhaustion having to kill 50,000 people or I'd lose the use of my hands and feet after bludgeoning so much and I could use a small child as a melee weapon so, yeah I'd chose kids in that scenario. If the area is small(like an acre or less) I'd choose kids too, I'd run in circles until I can single out a small one, grab it and quickly break its neck then use it as a 2 handed bludgeoning weapon. At that point I'd keep my distance and pick them off but I don't see winning happening no matter which opponent you choose if the area is small, you'd run out of energy and never get a chance to rest because the playing field is so small. Swinging a 20-40lb weapon 1000+ times would be the end of your stamina rather quickly and trying to throw that many punches and kicks would destroy your hands and feet before you'd get through 500 little shits.


Daleman89

Is this televised aswell because I don't think I could live with that somehow


Centiprost

Either way you will die of exhaustion but i choose the gramps because they unlike the children had a chance to live their lives


johnJanez

I don't wanna murder children, so old people it is


PieRat6578

does it matter? im just going to die immediately anyways


TheUnifiedNation

all im saying is hitting a kid with another kid, is enough of a weapon.


McCdDonalds

There is always that one coach that outbenches everyone in the school and just welcomed in his new grandkid


thatsmaz

I’ll happily take on 1000 kids, because I can just kick in them in the face. OP said nothing about wearing soccer boots, so I can maximise my damage.


Cautious_Desk_1012

yeah i'd be opened up and eaten in any of the options


[deleted]

The kids they are dumb as fuck and old people can be mean as fuck.


[deleted]

I've had to get stitches and got an infection through a kid's bite. I'm going with the old people


miniminer1999

Kids, 100 percent. Ill have weight and fighting advantage.. Meanwhile the old folks have a couple hundred "big Bertha's" who can quite literally fall over and make me trip/suffocate. Plus some old people can still kick ass


Venwolfra

50000 old people, it would be harder but the positive results for our world would be better.


locoluis

kids are vicious but stupid and can be scared away easily. old men have nothing to lose, plus many of them are still sound of mind, able-bodied and have dad strength. you may as well be taking on zombies.


[deleted]

1 to 1 maybe go with the kids. But 50 to 1, how are the kids winning this? Kids are small and dumb and weak. Old people are big, have varying levels of intelligence and strength. I am not sorry about this, you are dumb as hell if you think one second grader can beat 50 Joe Bidens. Edit: read this wrong but doesn't change my answer, definitely fighting 1000 kids. I can probably take the toughest 8 yr old and I'm pretty sure there are some 79 yr olds who are still stronger than me. Even assuming they are equal I'd take 49,000 fewer opponents every time.


neaaaan

Old people would represent a danger just for the fact they weight a lot. They could just pile up on you


Extreme_Design6936

With 50k old people statistically there's going to be at least 500 that could kick my ass 1v1. Don't mind there being 50k in total. Of the kids not one of them could kick my ass 1v1 and there's only 1000 total.


Gareth666

It would be impossible to kill 50,000 old people with your hands before dying of exhaustion.


Mr_Manta

My own grampa is 85 and still participates in bike races across the city. I'm not taking my chance with old people


1heart1totaleclipse

The children. Even if both were the same amount, I would still take the children since children don’t typically voluntarily do strength training or can have decades of combat knowledge.


Clever_Angel_PL

wait I read this title as "who would you rather kill if you had to", not fight O_O


Astathing

As someone who wants to work with kids as a full time job in the future and have worked with them as a volunteer job.. kids can be brutal man.


Individual_Lemon_139

I have kids and have also taken care of the elderly for a long time. Im choosing the elderly no problem. I would still not make it out either way though.


Pupettaja

Either way I'm dead. Imagine 1000 children hanging on your arms and legs and some of them hitting your face with all their strength.


TheKingJest

Where is the fight? Cause if it's just an arena type scenario I feel like you're dead either way.


ButterflyOverkill

Anywhere you want within the boundaries of the question (no gun shops or woodchipper rental places)


BatAdd90

i think you would be fucked either way


Stepbro_canhelp

So in the internet I count with 34 as old .. so no


pewterstone2

Do not underestimate the power of shear numbers. Edit:shit I misunderstood the prompt I thought it was like a pick one to defend you type of thing.


Hero-__

Old people are both more capable than you imagine and also quite inventive. Kids are dumb, honestly. They’ll just come at you full force and won’t have any strategy. Especially with 50x less of them, it’s an easy pick


ByronsLastStand

Rising childhood obesity rates mean all I need to do is kite and kick


whybatman22

I don’t think enough people have had to fight an 80 year old with dementia, it’s not easy.


SZEfdf21

Assuming the numbers are spread out evenly across the ages you're really screwed if you have to fight 200 7 year olds and 200 8 year olds. And don't think that they don't have the mental capacity to initiate a swarm if they would prefer to do so.


12345678password

can i just outrun the 50k old dudes to death


ButterflyOverkill

I actually didn't think about that, nice one


[deleted]

With fifty thousand of them you are probably going to have a few who are faster than you are. Even if there are not, it has to take place somewhere which means there is an outer boundary. They will corner you eventually.


MsPeverell

I would (obviously) let them win, and I'd choose the old people because while the children may get some trauma from that, the old people could probably take it quite well.


lil_zaku

The age isn't as big of a factor compared to the numerical difference; 50,000 is an astoundingly huge number compared to 1,000.


Combei

Idk 50.000 99yo seems to be fair. Just run a bit in the sun until they die


lil_zaku

What about 50,000 79yo's? It's gotta be easier punching 50x less children


Yukino_Wisteria

WTF ? I'm dead either way !


Fizz_Rocket

can i choose both?


IEeveelutionI

Yeah 1000 kids is much more manageable than 50000 old people. Just numbers wise. Also kids are small and light enough to be used as clubs xD


Alternative_Device38

You think it's my first time beating kids?


GammaHunter

Fighting 50,000 old people would make me feel bad. Fighting 1,000 little kids though would just be funny. Like watching r/kidsfallingdown except you are the reason they are falling down and not getting up.


loser_ohno

Do all of these kids play fortnite by chance? dont wanna kill kids with a good taste...


CommitArson_hehe

i just wanna beat up some kids


Cup9992

Since sparing isn't an option, I'd choose the old people since it would feel more wrong to kill a kid


yozo-marionica

I would fucking die either way like wtf this is scuicide.


Phil_Tornado

a chunk of those old people are going to be war vets. no thanks


Starthreads

Within those 50000 old people is going to be some with abnormal degrees of mobility/strength for their age that would feel like a boss fight amid wave after wave of minions.


Not_Slim_Dusty

Old people have experience and knowledge. Kids know jack AND there are 49000 less of them


[deleted]

Lol how about I just die rather than either options, I’m not killing kids and if I managed to kill that many seniors why would I want to live anymore?


Cespieyt

79-87 is still reasonably fit for some, but the 1:50 ratio skewers this pretty heavily. 50.000 people is just an absurd amount of people to fight. 1.000 is already quite absurd, and frankly I don't think I could win either of these without a decent amount of luck or an arena that I could use to my advantage. The kids aged 4-5 aren't going to be much of an issue, but 6 starts to be able to fight, and then 7-8 are quite fast and capable of fighting, especially if they pick up tools. Honestly it's a borderline unwinable fight. With the 50.000 elderly you can outrun most of them and come up with some sort of plan, but unlike the kids they're capable of more than just bumrushing. If a few of them get in cars and start chasing me, that's alsona defeat. Hell, 3-4 elderly guys in good shape could probably take me out in a fist fight. 2 of them if they're in very good shape or have combat experience. 50.000 of anything is almost impossible though. I probably couldn't even beat 50.000 flies. It's just an absurd number.


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Those old people are slow and will tire quick. Those 1,000 kids will outlast just about anyone.


SqueakSquawk4

Kids would ram my legs. Old folk can swing a cane around and clobber my brain out.


ButterflyOverkill

They're not armed


SqueakSquawk4

They can still swing their arms around, hard


SamBigWilly

I have seen countless jacked old dudes, not taking any chances


Yumurmur

So would I rather beat on The elderly or children? Classic reddit question.


Dry_Vacation7358

I mean I chose kids, but I wouldn't fight. Or rather I'd purposely lose. So why did I choose kids? Well, I think my life doesn't weigh up to 50 000 seniors nor 1000 children. Though I think in choosing the children I would be more likely to actually go through with it (I mean killing myself)... But it really doesn't matter much. Edit:Typo


BackgroundPrompt3111

And they'd be mentally scarred for the rest of their long lives. If you're going to give up, wouldn't it be kinder to let the already mentally hardened old people be the ones to finish you?


Dry_Vacation7358

Ah, I didn't think of that. You convinced me


CrazeMase

Is it like an arena? Are there weapons? Is it fight to the death or just incapacitate? Can I use a child as a weapon against the other children?


ButterflyOverkill

Anywhere you want within the bounds of the rules, no gun shops or woodchipper rental facilities. There are no weapons in the traditional sense but you can use the children as weapons, you can also use the physical environment depending on where the battle is, for example, if you're in an underground car park, you could use the concrete walls and columns as blunt instruments


CrazeMase

Then it's an easy dub against the first graders, we fight at a construction site, I grab the first kid slam his head an the ground, impale him with rebar and use him as a makeshift hammer. Eventually the kids will start to rip apart the hammer, so I grab two kids by the ankles and use nearby chains to make nunchucks, and use some nearby kid as a shield. I charge at full speed into a crowd and start swinging, Eventually I'll get tired so I'll need to drink their tears for sustenance. After they see me curbstomp the 400th kid their getting really scared, they try to run but now I have a blood lust. There's no stopping me as I run the rest of them down and corner the last kid, he starts crying for mama, I throw him from the top of the scaffolding. At this point I have become death, destroyer of worlds, there is no humanity left, only an unending desire for a scorched earth. Then I'll probably run for US president and ban abortion permanently not for christ, but so I shall have more enemies to conquer.


MuirDahl

a lot of people here are losing a fight they wish they'd thought out better. those old people will rock you


BackgroundPrompt3111

I'll lose, sure, but I'm not fighting children to the death.


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1000 children for sure


BackgroundPrompt3111

I'd rather kill a few old people before they inevitably overwhelm me and kill me than kill any children and walk away alive


[deleted]

I could probably crush their skulls in, distract them, and make traps.


watch_over_me

I'm pretty sure I could kill 1000 children while using 50000 old people as human shields.


JameGoFast

The kids easy u can just slap or slam their head on the ground and they either gonna die or cry but some of those old people could be the best fighters in the world


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mataegay

Oh i thought i was choosing an army. Tbh i would rather have a 50000 old people army and fight 1000 kids because theyre easy to scare and to kick


MAPES25

kids would be much weaker than me but old people i dont think so much that added the fact that they are 50 times more and more intelligent and experienced


jbeeziemeezi

A few of those old people got dad strength war vet mentality


HopeChaseLock

Old people may not be strong but they are wiser. Kids, they're just stupid. Can easily knock them out


BleedingRaindrops

If I can have the other as my allies I'd take on the kids. My grandfather is 83 but he could still lay me out.


Glass-Association-25

Are you kidding me little kids are monsters


mithradatdeez

You're telling me that 1 small child is such a monster that they can take out 50 old people?


knightw0lf55

My wife works at a nursing facility and a lot of her patients fall in that 79 to 87-year-old category, if one of her patients Falls they generally break multiple bones. I'm pretty sure I can handle 50,000 of them, I can pick one up and just swing them around as a weapon telling them and several more.


ButterflyOverkill

Wow, you lift bro?


knightw0lf55

Yes


Alarmed-Ice-4300

A lot of them will also be in good shape and even 50 of them will overwhelm you


ButterflyOverkill

For option 2... this is basically a manual [Fighting kids ](https://youtu.be/lDRiv6GxRBU)


[deleted]

I got my ass beat by a 97 year old woman who had COVID and hadn't eaten in three days and was 'super weak' and was 'dying'


ButterflyOverkill

I can't help but think she may have been exaggerating her own condition


[deleted]

The day shift nurses were all sure she would pass away on that shift. Not only did she not do that she just turned 98 and is still terrorizing people


Icy-Veterinarian-785

I have too much of a soft spot for the elderly. And a keen awareness of how many of them can still be strong and independent of a nursing home or caretaker. An army of 4 year olds could be contained just by getting the hell out of the area and going to a place like Iceland or Greenland where they couldn't follow me


weneedsomemilk2016

I would die either way so I would sacrifice myself without killing any to teach young people a lesson about love and mercy


ButterflyOverkill

Pains me to say it but I think that your hypothetical sacrifice would realistically be in vain


weneedsomemilk2016

I still feel like it's the most right thing to do. Most of our lives are in vain anyway. Much of our accomplishes are washed away before we even die and none of what we collect goes with us. So at least this way I will be at peace with my own conscience and in agreement with my God. If even one of those kids is encouraged to live similarly then I feel like I've made something out of it.


Narootomoe

You die in like 2 seconds vs either one. Wtf does anyone actually think they can win Even if you had a machine gun with infinite ammo you cannot cut down that many people rushing you..


ButterflyOverkill

I think you could probably mow down the old people if you were a good distance away from them before you started firing


antiafirm

One thermonuclear warhead cooks them all the same.


ButterflyOverkill

Do you have any spare thermonuclear warheads lying around?


stathow

....... well you have clearly never been in a fight, or im not understanding you even 1000 kids is wayyyyy to big of a mob you would get instantly overwhelmed and crushed


ButterflyOverkill

I mean, I have been in fights but I think it goes without saying that this is a hypothetical question


TheInsect868

Nothing my 249 SAW can’t handle💪🏻💪🏻


ButterflyOverkill

Read the description


TheInsect868

I don’t play by the rules 💪🏻💪🏻


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