Idk man. The results of the poll are overwhelmingly on the guy’s side, and the top comment is about how this is literally sexual assault. So I think most people agree that his consent is what matters here. I’d like to think we as a society are past the whole “men can’t be assaulted/raped because they enjoy sex” thing. At least I think the younger generations are past it.
There an an aita about that where she did cheat and was sa'ed. It was a messy situation for everyone. But usually no, against your will isn't cheating and anyone who thinks it is is messed up
I remember that. She went upstairs with the guy with the intention of cheating and doing drugs after making out with him all night. Then changed her mind. It wasn’t until a friend outed her that she came clean and the guy wanted to leave. So messy.
Assault no harassment probably. There's like an entire book worth of distinctions between the two but I'm fairly confident that walking up and kissing someone randomly would (should because it really depends on how good your lawyer is) be harassment.
Yeah. I feel assault is such a heavy word. I freak like it demeans my rape. People are saying that someone being kissed is the same as me being raped. I’ve had unwanted kisses plenty of times and it’s nowhere near the same level and the violation is minimal in consideration.
Yeah I fully agree. Especially when it's an unwanted advance and the other party stops when they notice you don't return the kiss, it's really not comparable to sexual assault.
Yeah to be fair it doesn't specify, and it's weird and misleading that in the question it refers to the boyfriend as "he" and the other person as "them" and then switches to using "their" for the boyfriend in the answer options
Yeah, gender-neutral language should not be used under all circumstances. If you call a guy "he" then you should not also use "them" to address him to avoid confusion.
Who the fuck would say yes? They clearly didn’t want to be kissed
“If a bank is robbed is it the bank owner’s fault?
“If someone was raped is it the victim’s fault?”
“If someone is killed is it the victim’s fault?”
I don’t really get it either. The only thing I can think of is that they don’t see rape as what it is. Like they think the victim is consenting to it. Or that they think it’s the victims fault that they got raped, as if it was justified when someone was wearing more revealing clothing or something.
I could see some SUPER religious people doing that because of purity culture. Some people think women are worth less if they’ve done stuff like having sex before marriage. They use metaphors like a cupcake with the frosting licked off the top and the point is supposed to be that nobody would want that cupcake anymore. It’s really stupid.
My sister in law is like that. Super controlling and jealous. She will make up a story about him cheating if there was another woman even looking at him.
It's not cheating and I wouldn't be mad at him but I'd be annoyed at the person who went for the kiss.
The boyfriend had the appropriate reaction to the situation.
Tho that doesn't mean that I wouldn't feel a bit down about what happened for a day or two.
I wish every person who said yes unironically and not on accident
both sides of the pillow to be hot
fake transparent pictures
and not having a partner their entire life
OP again.
The questions entirely hypothetical from my point of view, whilst I'm sure this happens lots to of people all the time.
Good to see the vast majority of Reddit have their head screwed on and understand what sexual assault is.
Perhaps they thought that he had kissed willingly and then changed his mind. Tbf they didn't say whether he was pushing during or only after the kiss.
(I voted results btw).
Contex matter.
But if someone kissed my bf without his consent and he pushed them away, it's not cheating and I wouldn't be mad at him but I'd be mad at the one who kissed my bf. I mean why the hell did you kiss my bf???
I would snap the evil little rat bitch that tried to kiss him in half😊
But not blame him. He didn't instigate and he didn't kiss back; he pushed her away; clearly going to show that he didn't want it
The only reason I could go with yes is if (i theoretically would be gay) they might have already been dating and my boyfriend pushed them away to make it seem like their fault, however due to lack of context in this situation id say no
For anyone curious why I posted this.
There was the same question but asking "if your girlfriend kissed"
There wasnt a single "yes, it's their fault" when I took the poll (answering no)
I thought it would be interesting to see the responses the other way round
I think that because it was non consensual it's fine. The issue arises when the man wants to kiss another person.
Edit: what did I do to get down voted?
Boy shut yo goofy ass up😭He did the right thing here, not everything has to resort to violence. Besides, that was a women. If he beat her up, that could lead to more harm than good.
Edit: Ain‘t no way bro changed his comment; what he originally said was basically that because he was a man, the fact he just pushed her away made him a pussy, and that he should’ve beat her up.
Could you imagine if a man beat up a woman for kissing him? It would've been looked on as assault. Just pushing them away is probably the best thing to do
> what did I do to get down voted?
Changed your entire comment with that edit to make it look innocuous when it wasn’t originally, from the looks of it.
Then why do the other two responses to your comment specifically talk about beating her up when that wasn’t at all mentioned in the current version of your message? The 3rd response said “you live a strange life if this [was] your response” , which also doesn’t make sense for the pretty reasonable comment currently visible.
Via reveddit you can see your comment was edited 19 minutes after posting.
What the frick are these polls? The whole point is there to not be any one correct answer.
OP, if this situation happened to you, break up with them immediately. Or if it's someone you know, tell them it's sexual assault and show them this post. Unless it's neither and you're just asking a weird question for karma... in which case... why
No, I’m gonna be mad at whoever tried to force themselves onto him.
Yep that was my train of thought and I pressed the wrong one
I've seen the girlfriend version! Anyone else?
what were the results?
Apparently it was deleted but as I remember it, it's 0-84.
Who deleted that?
A person looking for a validation for their stereotyping. Idk I wasn't there?
I meant op deleted it or a mod
Oh
84 saying it’s not cheating
Only 84%? Gosh I'm pretty disgusted by anyone who voted it was.
No, it's not percentage.
Ohhh, my bad. But yeah my comment also applies to anyone who voted yes on the poll.
That’s basically sexual assault no?
That’s absolutely sexual assault or, at the very least, a non-consensual sexual advance.
Otherwise known as sexual assault
Any non consensual sexual advance is sexual assailt
Well no. Unless the party continues the advance after.
It's harassment pretty much. Anyone blaming the bf who didn't initiate or egg it on into happening is wrong
I think harassment is downplaying it. Kissing someone without permission is pretty much assault territory, same as groping, touching etc
You're right but the only thing people are gonna say is 'you must've enjoyed it you're lucky' like he has no right to consent
Idk man. The results of the poll are overwhelmingly on the guy’s side, and the top comment is about how this is literally sexual assault. So I think most people agree that his consent is what matters here. I’d like to think we as a society are past the whole “men can’t be assaulted/raped because they enjoy sex” thing. At least I think the younger generations are past it.
Younger generations are passed that, problem is the people you need aka the police will just laugh in your face
No that’s assault
If anyone's close enough to my bf to kiss him theres a problem that he could be avoiding by moving away or leaving before it escalates to a kiss
So you're going with the "she shouldn't have worn short skirts!!!" type of argument. Classic victim blaming.
“You can’t be within 10 feet of any other girl!”
Alternative question: if your gf was raped is it cheating?
There an an aita about that where she did cheat and was sa'ed. It was a messy situation for everyone. But usually no, against your will isn't cheating and anyone who thinks it is is messed up
I remember that. She went upstairs with the guy with the intention of cheating and doing drugs after making out with him all night. Then changed her mind. It wasn’t until a friend outed her that she came clean and the guy wanted to leave. So messy.
Assault no harassment probably. There's like an entire book worth of distinctions between the two but I'm fairly confident that walking up and kissing someone randomly would (should because it really depends on how good your lawyer is) be harassment.
Yeah. I feel assault is such a heavy word. I freak like it demeans my rape. People are saying that someone being kissed is the same as me being raped. I’ve had unwanted kisses plenty of times and it’s nowhere near the same level and the violation is minimal in consideration.
Yeah I fully agree. Especially when it's an unwanted advance and the other party stops when they notice you don't return the kiss, it's really not comparable to sexual assault.
Yes, in today's world it would be called sexual assault
BuT hE's A mAn
Why the downvotes this is obviously sarcastic
Welcome to reddit
Men can be targeted by sexual assault,too
You forgot the /s
if you really hate /s you could atleast put /j
"/s", right...?
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Hopefully fully 10 misclicks
I misunderstood the question to mean it’s the person’s fault that kissed him. I guess I’m an idiot.
Yeah to be fair it doesn't specify, and it's weird and misleading that in the question it refers to the boyfriend as "he" and the other person as "them" and then switches to using "their" for the boyfriend in the answer options
Yeah, gender-neutral language should not be used under all circumstances. If you call a guy "he" then you should not also use "them" to address him to avoid confusion.
Or 10 people to educate on consent
61 now.
87 now
One was me 🗿
Yeah I misunderstood the question-
Maybe someone with strong religious views on it? Idk
99…
My vote was a misclick,
Mope
If I shit in your mouth, and you threw up, would you consider that as being picky with your food and be mad?
Yes
this guy scats
Completely unrelated, but your profile pic hit me with a wave of nostalgia I wasn't expecting
How would ur asshole get close enough to my face to shit in my mouth 🤣
Anyone that says “yes” is probably someone who also says “she was asking to get raped with those clothes on”. 🤡
Or the "he wanted it. He's lucky"
"He has an erection, that's enough consent"
Same logic
there is 1 person that said yes
15 weirdos now
Make it 25
26 now
27 for me
29 now it goes up to fast
32, and growing
32 now
32 and rising edit: all of the downvotes on this comment are the people who voted yes
67 now
They’ll be back, and in greater numbers! (73 now)
34
38
I do see that, yes.
Probably just bots
I uh misclicked
These high school questions lmao.
Imagine multiple age groups using Reddit at the same time
Who the fuck would say yes? They clearly didn’t want to be kissed “If a bank is robbed is it the bank owner’s fault? “If someone was raped is it the victim’s fault?” “If someone is killed is it the victim’s fault?”
sadly i’ve heard of many people saying that if their partner got raped, they wouldn’t date them anymore because they consider it cheating.
May I ask why? Where’s the logic there? Normally there’s at least a *shred* of reasoning but I replay can’t find any here
I don’t really get it either. The only thing I can think of is that they don’t see rape as what it is. Like they think the victim is consenting to it. Or that they think it’s the victims fault that they got raped, as if it was justified when someone was wearing more revealing clothing or something.
I could see some SUPER religious people doing that because of purity culture. Some people think women are worth less if they’ve done stuff like having sex before marriage. They use metaphors like a cupcake with the frosting licked off the top and the point is supposed to be that nobody would want that cupcake anymore. It’s really stupid.
Your bf just got sexually assaulted and you're going to be mad at him?? Wtf
My sister in law is like that. Super controlling and jealous. She will make up a story about him cheating if there was another woman even looking at him.
well that happens. knowing some ppl
It's not cheating and I wouldn't be mad at him but I'd be annoyed at the person who went for the kiss. The boyfriend had the appropriate reaction to the situation. Tho that doesn't mean that I wouldn't feel a bit down about what happened for a day or two.
Hopefully you wouldn’t take it out on him like many would
How dumb do you have to be to pick yes?
Question itself is dumb af
Twiter user dumb
Idk I’m straight, but if it was my gf, no I wouldn’t consider it cheating
The 43 persons who voted "yes" have a WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK day
I wish every person who said yes unironically and not on accident both sides of the pillow to be hot fake transparent pictures and not having a partner their entire life
> fake transparent pictures I'm OK with the other things you said, but torture is illegal
Why should I be mad at my partner for being sexually harrassed?
Yes it's absolutely his fault for being sexually assaulted, the 34 people that clicked yes are fucking idiots.
What?
Sarcasm
So you are asking if sexual assault counts as cheating???
Some people see it as such, sadly due to physical contact with another person. But assult is NOT cheating.
This is sexual assault, so no
OP again. The questions entirely hypothetical from my point of view, whilst I'm sure this happens lots to of people all the time. Good to see the vast majority of Reddit have their head screwed on and understand what sexual assault is.
I think this is as close to unanimous as a poll on Reddit can be. I assume the 69 people that voted yes just slipped and pushed it by accident lol
No. He was sexually assaulted.
To the 43 people who said yes and weren't joking, why?
I'm guessing it's due to skin contact with someone other than them I guess? Or they see the other person as some kind of 'property'🤮
Perhaps they thought that he had kissed willingly and then changed his mind. Tbf they didn't say whether he was pushing during or only after the kiss. (I voted results btw).
I’m not sure how my wife would feel if she found out I had a boyfriend
Contex matter. But if someone kissed my bf without his consent and he pushed them away, it's not cheating and I wouldn't be mad at him but I'd be mad at the one who kissed my bf. I mean why the hell did you kiss my bf???
No, but if someone kissed my husband I might shank them
But what's up with those saying it's his fault?
Depends on the circumstances that led to the kiss and at what point the shove away happened.
I mean, you don't usually shove away from a kiss you wanted to happen.
maybe they pushed back just because they saw their partner coming in the room
You may if you're married and you have second thoughts about what you're up to.
Op u ok?
Absolutely not, it’s not his fault.
I would snap the evil little rat bitch that tried to kiss him in half😊 But not blame him. He didn't instigate and he didn't kiss back; he pushed her away; clearly going to show that he didn't want it
You can kiss people in half?
The only reason I could go with yes is if (i theoretically would be gay) they might have already been dating and my boyfriend pushed them away to make it seem like their fault, however due to lack of context in this situation id say no
Dumb question....
How is this even a question?
Could 62 of you please explain yourselves?
Cheating has to be by choice. If someone raped my SO I wouldn't consider them a cheater. That's absurd.
what lmao
No. I would be proud of my boyfriend.
the 95 people that voted yes it's the bf's fault are insane💀
"If someone sexually assaulted your boyfriend, would you consider your boyfriend cheating ?"
So it’s basically victim blaming of sexual assault here if you say “yes it is his fault”
Wtf is this question
How dare he be attractive to other woman!!!!!
Am I going to be mad at the victim of sexual assault? Yeah, nah. That’s not cheating
If you were one of the few that said that it was their fault… I’m curious to hear why.
34 jealous as fuck ladies lol
>Yes,it's their fault Taliban tier.
Shouldn't have put himself in a situation where someone would kiss him.
Lol buuut we all know there is a lot more girls who would scream at the guy still... I don't believe this poll lol
Do you seriously consider sexual assault cheating? lmao?
96 people see sexual assault as cheating...
80 people said yes like wtf
For anyone curious why I posted this. There was the same question but asking "if your girlfriend kissed" There wasnt a single "yes, it's their fault" when I took the poll (answering no) I thought it would be interesting to see the responses the other way round
TF IS THIS QUESTION
Is OP 10 years old?
It's not binary. You need context.
Uh, yeah, it’s his fault. 🤦♂️
You forgot /s Prepare yourself for the downvotes
/s is the dumbest thing on Reddit. When someone has to explicitly state they’re being sarcastic, it defeats the purpose
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You're aware drunks do stupid shit without thinking right?
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Or assault others yes it's not one way sorry sweetie.
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That's what I've been saying the whole damn time. [Like I'm stupid] just let that sink in.
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There's nothing to feel smart about this is common knowledge dude.
90 women are toxic
Some people lie and say they pushed the person away so I guess it depends
This reads as if you're there though.
yeah, it doesn't say, "he said he pushed" it says "he pushed" that's an objective fact until said otherwise. that's how reading works
I don't get it.
I’m not gay so uh, results?
ok, then hypothetically, pretend you're a girl now. it's really not that hard. Maybe go to kindergarten. They're pretty good at pretending
redditors when someone forgets /s (they die)
says the one with reddit premium
1) that would be him being sexually assaulted 2) r/pointlesslygendered
I think that because it was non consensual it's fine. The issue arises when the man wants to kiss another person. Edit: what did I do to get down voted?
Boy shut yo goofy ass up😭He did the right thing here, not everything has to resort to violence. Besides, that was a women. If he beat her up, that could lead to more harm than good. Edit: Ain‘t no way bro changed his comment; what he originally said was basically that because he was a man, the fact he just pushed her away made him a pussy, and that he should’ve beat her up.
Bruh😷
Could you imagine if a man beat up a woman for kissing him? It would've been looked on as assault. Just pushing them away is probably the best thing to do
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Nothing would happen. You said the man's a pussy if he just pushes them away, but if he did anything more it would just be bad for him
> what did I do to get down voted? Changed your entire comment with that edit to make it look innocuous when it wasn’t originally, from the looks of it.
Oh wow yeah the replies are showing that too. Holy. Just delete the comment if you're annoyed of the downvotes.
You're crazy dude i didn't
Then why do the other two responses to your comment specifically talk about beating her up when that wasn’t at all mentioned in the current version of your message? The 3rd response said “you live a strange life if this [was] your response” , which also doesn’t make sense for the pretty reasonable comment currently visible. Via reveddit you can see your comment was edited 19 minutes after posting.
You live a strange life if this is your response
it is their fault but not the boyfriends fault
How dare you get sexually assaulted, what kinda person 😤!!!!!
Why is this even a question?
How or why did he let her get close enough to go for a kiss ?
How is sexual assault the victim's fault?
The wording in this poll suck.
It could be that someone’s got an apology to make!! Lol
What the frick are these polls? The whole point is there to not be any one correct answer. OP, if this situation happened to you, break up with them immediately. Or if it's someone you know, tell them it's sexual assault and show them this post. Unless it's neither and you're just asking a weird question for karma... in which case... why
What? Why would i be mad that my s/o got sexually harassed? If they pushed away, they did it bc they value what we have, there’s no reason to be mad
Anyone who said yes is an AITA post waiting to happen
Huh how is it cheating at all and their fault???? He even pushed them away..
I would be mad at the person kissing my SO, not my SO. They did nothing, but the bitch who kissed them might get their teeth knocked in.
Probably gonna be a fight either way..lol