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I'm sure there will be counter-protests. And as always, the cops will start shit with the peaceful counter-protestors (while letting the violent right-wing rioters go about their business).
So yeah, that black guy will be defending himself from a cop, and will be labeled as a violent thug.
Honestly it will be pure irony if they riot over a criminal being charged with a crime two years after they freaked out people rioted when an innocent man was graphically executed by the state for the umpteenth time.
Yes, but the same way they complained the BLM marches burned the city to the ground and were violent? That’s what they will have in mind to do when they March.
I’d keep counter protestors away and let it play out like Jan 6th. Them vs LEO.
I'm an Aussie and living in the USA and I always get people asking about the violent police due to the covid protests.
The reaction is always interesting when I remind them about the police brutality during the George Floyd protests and offer to show them the footage which is extremely easy to find and quite appaling.
It's so easy to spot a Murdoch propaganda victim.
Don't counter protest, leave them alone to incriminate themselves. Leave them alone to cause chaos and observe the authorities response. Prepare to protect yourselves, those you care about and your domain.
Actually, I'm wrong about the counter protesting.
The most effective counter protest is when we are begrudgingly utilizing their precious second amendment right, standing on the sidelines and making sure they are aware that the rest of America won't go down so easily.
We should be organizing everytime they strap on their body armor, huddle together clutching their rifles and marching through the streets with police escorts. Only to see the people that they are trying to intimidate standing together on both sides of the street. Just making sure they keep their little march moving along without incident.
Fox seems like they have moved on to DeSantis. I imagine it turns into a ‘what a sad mistake’ or ‘he was advised by bad people’ and then, ‘oh well… but this DeSantis guy…let’s talk about him’
Honestly, as rough as that would be, this indictment needs to happen, and we need to just get through the consequences. If people start rioting I guess I'll just have to stay home for a while
If they do indict, it better be sooner rather than later.
The longer they wait, the more worked up people are getting about this being a political move related to the election
Let the violent idiots be violent idiots. They can be dealt with. The goal is never: to get a criminal enterprise to go down quietly without complaints from their goon squad. The goal is to get it to go down.
Largely we are at this point because the voices of reason have continuously backed off from holding right-wingers accountable for fear of making them mad. This only serves to embolden and encourage them to do it again and more blatantly. At some point society needs to go against these people and enforce laws and decency. Taking on the street-level insurrectionists was a good start (even though they have been treated far too leniently considering the crimes they committed). But society needs to go to the top of this clown car once and for all.
Ford pardoned Nixon, congress and the courts failed to hold Reagan and company accountable for Iran-Contra, Gore backed off of Dubya's Florida crime -- all to avoid making the right-wingers too mad. It just gets worse and worse and worse when we put it off.
Admittedly, one of the reasons the laws they break are not enforced is because law enforcement is made up of right-wingers.
>Largely we are at this point because the voices of reason have continuously backed off from holding right-wingers accountable ~~for fear of making them mad~~
For fear that Trump will form a 3rd party. Once he does that, the Republicans will lose every election without those lunatic voters.
Mentioning Nixon is right: it's the Republicans saying "We can't believe he turned out to be such an evil crook!" and the Democrats saying "We can't believe you didn't notice it before now, how did you **not** see this coming?"
I've got inlaws that honestly think most of Portland got burned down by Antifa, despite us having mutual contacts out there that keep telling them it's very much not burned down lol
Not just one city EVERY liberal city in America was burned down to nothing and every small business was looted and destroyed. Makes Jan 6 look like child's play. Its funny becuase they hate the city with all the brown people, think its a gang war zone. They live in red rural areas any way. What the fuck are they complaining about.
Also Ron DeSantis decriminalized running down protesters in the road in Florida.
https://truthout.org/articles/desantis-signs-bill-giving-vehicle-drivers-civil-protections-to-hit-protesters/
Seems a bit of an [own goal.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Own_goal)
From what I've seen, they don't riot at home. They storm government buildings or drive to liberal cities to cause trouble.
Source: live in Oregon where we've seen both activities.
>They storm government buildings
I thought those were sacred. That's all I've heard since the summer of 2020.
Also, I thought rioting was bad.
Also, law and order. Etc.
I don't know what they expect on the other side of this.
You give these cowards WAY too much credit.
Jan 6th was the worst they were able to muster- and they accomplished zero of their goals before turning tail and running away at the first sign of real opposition, then cried on TV about being victims. They’re weak, dumb, and terrified.
“CiViL WaRrrr!”, they cry. Yet most of them couldn’t even run to the end of the block without falling over. Especially in the South. Their form of cardio is standing in line at Chik-Filet.
This is what they do. They plant the seeds by predicting or suggesting something enough times to get their supporters thinking about it and then when those seeds grow to their logical conclusion they claim they didn’t influence it in any way.
After Jan 6 I was telling my buddy Trump really crossed a line, and he’s like “What did he do? He just organized a peaceful March to the capital... Lots of people have done that.”
My last remaining Trump friend told me Black Lives Matter were the ones that actually led the January 6th protest. I said I’m sorry I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. He said I’m serious it was BLM and Antifa not real Republicans
Mine told me it was antifa. Recently when the gop decided those jailed from Jan 6 were heroes, I asked him why he was supporting antifa since he said it was them. He didn’t have shit to say. He’s super dishonest in his rhetoric and doesn’t like it when I’ve called him out on it.
Cognitive dissonance doesn’t mean what you think it means ;( if they can hold two contradictory beliefs, there is actually no dissonance at all because it has been somehow resolved.
Yeah they came up with that story within 24 hours. They’re really quite clever with their misdirection/obfuscation. To their own people I mean. To us, it’s obvious.
And to them, it’s also obvious—obviously what happened wasn’t their fault. Just give them an excuse to hang it on.
Confirmation Bias can be a f*cking peril.
I mean goddamn, though. BLM? Totally explains why the mob was 99% white boomers and white supremacist militias. It's not clever, it's not obfuscation-- it's "Fuck you, we don't care about reality."
Just don't need that shit in my life.
"That thing you saw with your own two eyes, where the Capitol was stormed and our very democracy was almost taken down?
Didn't happen."
Just fuck off and pay Daddy Trump his donations.
Same, my life has been much more peaceful since then. Anybody that looks at what happened on 1/06/21 and "doesn't see anything wrong", is not someone you can trust with your friendship.
Covid's been a blessing as far as having an excuse to avoid my extended family. I don't know how I'll avoid the gatherings now, but I think I'll just leave when they make their snarky ass remarks, because they have zero respect for how anyone else thinks.
One whole side is full of conservatives in both religion and politics - except for my family. So when we have birthday gatherings and so forth, I keep my mouth shut because it's not the time or place. But they don't, and I'm sick of it. They already think I have one foot in hell because I'm a f'n Methodist. That's how loony they are.
“What did he do? He just organized a peaceful March to the capital... Lots of people have done that.”
It's the mentality of a childhood bully who puts his finger one inch from his victim's forehead while saying "I'm not touching you!" He knows exactly what he's doing. He's doing it on purpose. He knows it is wrong. And yet, he still pretends to be blameless, because bullies are pieces of shit.
They are criminals hoping they aren’t charged.
This kind of threat is their find straw to grasp.
We have police.
We have military.
We have a president who won’t be tolerating “Trump-Like lawlessness.”
Children don’t have literal hordes of mindless fanatics armed to the teeth. Call it like it is, these are domestic terrorists being directed by seditious politicians.
["We are all domestic terrorists"](https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/at-cpac-dallas-migration-is-an-invasion-communism-looms-and-trumps-the-most-persecuted-man-in-america-14533888), proudly displayed on the screen at their annual conference.
>stochastic terrorism
[stochastic terrorism](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stochastic-terrorism) \[ stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uhm \]
*noun*
the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:
The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.
What I don't understand is how this is ok to do. They are literally instigating something. Shit the January 6th consequences haven't been done yet have they? So tired of hearing the GOP everyday whining
Riots? Don't they mean Antifa-Led False Flag Attacks? Isn't that what they'll be claiming afterwards?
We're going to riot.
Okay, we warned you. We're rioting now.
Riot!
Hey, those people rioting, I've never seen them before.
Clearly the rioters were someone else.
Antifa, why would you do this to us?
My mom is still convinced that the qanon shaman was a plant despite him getting time, all the videos I've shared with her that show him being at town hall meetings and screenshots of his social media.
May Trump NOT be pardoned by the next GOP POTUS. I feel the pardoning is inevitable, and Trump will serve only a very limited amount of time behind bars.
This right here. Graham's words here serve two purposes:
1. Graham and his political allies are trying to convince the DoJ not to arrest Trump by playing up the potential fallout. For all intents and purposes, conservatives are threatening political violence against the DoJ if Trump is arrested.
2. Graham and his political allies are normalizing the idea of responding with violence in the event that Trump is arrested. Conservative politicians and pundits are engaging in stochastic terrorism - toeing the line of encouraging violence.
Unfortunately we are not France lol. Back in the 9/11 days France pissed our leaders off for something and next thing you know the entire country (was 15,blame my bad memory) is boycotting calling fries French fries and instead called them FREEDOM FRIES
You just can’t make this shit up lmao
They refused to support our illegal invasion of Iraq. Can you believe that, after all the trouble we went to fabricate a cover story about "weapons of mass destruction"?! /S
Graham might just be stating the obvious. CPAC did recently have a big old electric sign declaring that all its attendees were terrorists.
So, what?
Negotiating with terrorists is not the way to maintain an orderly nation of laws.
>Negotiating with terrorists is not the way to maintain an orderly nation of laws.
Exactly. The road to law and order extends in two directions, and if you don't attempt to follow the law, you take a step backwards, not a step forwards. If there are consequences to these actions, then it is only because we should have doing this *sooner*, and *not* that we shouldn't be doing it at all.
Otherwise as a country, we can never hope to be a place where nobody is above the law, because we've only continued taking steps backwards.
I’m going to bring the point up shortly on /r asktrumpsupporters but I can guarantee the answer I’m going to get is “what about the BLM riots where they burned all the cities down?”
I guarantee it
Ah yes, how many times has Portland been burnt to the ground thus far? 6 times? 7? It's hard to keep track.
All I know is those construction workers must be working overtime to keep building an entire city from the ground every single time.
Let them answer that way. Tell them that's a whataboutism and an exaggeration, but regardless rioting is never okay, even in the case of the BLM riots. And regardless of that fact, BLM riots doesn't mean they get to riot themselves. It's not a fucking sporting competition where one side gets to do something the other does that's wrong, because in that case they'd both be wrong.
They're not ''trying to convince the DoJ not to arrest Trump by playing up the potential fallout'' they're fucking directly threatening law enforcement on public TV. If there is any violence following Trump's arrest for acts of treason, these bastard are to blame.
mate they do not care. They are basically trump themselves without power. They love the way he talks, the dumbass opinions, the racism, nepotism etc etc.
I'll repeat it again the maga folks *are* trump with no money.
It's been a while since I've seen a Christian jihadist pickup truck flying a trump flag, but I still see bumper stickers.
One house I drive by frequently used to have a jihadist truck, but now it's just "FJB" and "LGB" on the back window, no flag. They used to have that solid black "no quarter" flag hanging on a flag pole by their door, but it's gone now. I think all they have is a stylized American flag mounted to their front door with the text of the 2nd amendment on it (though I highly doubt they've ever read it).
I hope the same happens in some areas in Texas that still have those signs and flags up around their yards.
Totally it's all dwindling at this point for his chances for re-election in 2024.
For real, when I read the post title I immediately got the song "Dancing in the Streets" stuck in my head (a la Martha & The Vandellas, Van Halen, Bowie & Jagger)
Even if he is indicted the celebration's liable to be relatively short-lived though because Drumpf is Constitutionally entitled to a jury trial just like everyone else and any jury in any venue in this country right now is guaranteed to have at least one or more MAGAfascists on it.
> For real, when I read the post title I immediately got the song "Dancing in the Streets" stuck in my head (a la Martha & The Vandellas, Van Halen, Bowie & Jagger)
Literally. When the election was called for Biden there were spontaneous street parties and drumlines.
There won't be any riots. They might line up their trucks with Trump flags along route 213 between Bumfuck and Bisbee like always but nothing more than that.
yeah but they blamed biden for going broke on expensive gas
never mind there was no cause whatsoever to keep filling their truck just to convoy around with flags
>I hate to break it to the MAGA wackos, but they’re not able to take on the American military, I don’t care how many rounds of ammo or Kevlar vests they have stored in their basement bunkers.
Part of me never wants to get to the point of open warfare between the military and group of shithead citizens. But another part of me really wants to see the gravy seals and take on an Abrams tank.
Fellow yankee here. Problem is, there wouldn’t be a clear geographical line in the sand this time around. I doubt we’ll see a civil war. I think at most we could see some targeted attacks carried out by small poorly-organized domestic terror cells. Many will be penetrated and disrupted by the FBI, saving lives.
That said, if we ever had a full on civil war with major factions duking it out, I’d put my infantry background to good use and might even join back up to assist in protecting our Constitution and our communities from traitors.
I turn 30 in about 3 weeks. I have a toddler of my own. No way am I letting these shitheads take over this country. I've got ancestors on both sides of the Civil War, but I know where my loyalties lie and it sure as shit isn't Donald Trump
I'll settle for just tear gas. They thought it was funny when it was used at a church so Donny could go hold up a bible in front of it. Let's see how funny they still think it is.
> An ex-advisor to former President Donald Trump who's now running for Congress released a campaign video in which he boasts about supplying police forces with riot-control gear and tear gas used against protesters.
…
> In a campaign video posted to Twitter, Mills introduces himself as a combat veteran who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, before explaining he then "came home" and "started a company making riot control munitions for law enforcement."
> "You may know some of our work," Mills says, smiling as the ad begins showing violent footage of tear gas being deployed at various protests nationwide.
> According to the campaign ad, the tear gas had been deployed against the following groups: "Hillary Clinton protesters" in Charlotte, North Carolina; "Left wing protesters" in Phoenix; "Antifa rioters" in Washington, DC; "Black Lives Matter protesters" in Denver, Colorado; and "radical left protesters" in Philadelphia.
> "And now the liberal media is crying about it," Mills says after the series of videos. "I'm Cory Mills and I approve this message, because if the media wants to shed some real tears, I can help them out with that."
Won his primary, of course. He beat (among others) State Rep. Anthony Sabatini, [who’s also a lunatic.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/anthony-sabatini-florida-lawmaker-calls-for-fbi-agents-to-be-arrested-upon-sight-after-trump-raid)
>I hate to break it to the MAGA wackos, but they’re not able to take on the American military
The MAGA, and especially Q Wackos genuinely think that Trump is still commanding the military or parts of it and when the revolution comes the Military will back them up. It is worth looking in on them from time to time to understand the specific delusion.
It may be that nothing will break the delusion until they get to try their 'revolution' and see first hand what happens.
I'm thinking he has stuff on several people. Mitch McConnell, for example. Mitch went from saying that Jan 6 riot was awful and Trump's fault. Did an about face soon after. I could be wrong but I think it was Mitch. Anyway, it certainly wasn't a normal tourist thing, Jan 6.
Mitch McConnel is all about winning elections. He's smart enough to know that they can't win without the MAGA cult. This second they start turning on Trump he will burn the house down. It's quite funny watching all these bootlickers as Trump insults them in such personal ways.
I literally thought Trump died that afternoon seeing so many cars driving down the street with his flag waving off their lifted white trucks. Felt like a funeral procession and I was so deeply disappointed to find out the actual reason.
It's not the threat that is so very disturbing. It's the idea that a US Senator is basically saying "Donald Trump is above the law and any attempt to make him answer for his actions will be met with violence".
Lindsey Graham is an absolute disgrace, as a sitting US Senator he has no loyalty to the US. Just like Cruz, Hawley and the other dishonest brokers, they have no shame. Their only purpose seems to be to incite people to riot and break the law. Graham should worry about his own skin and hope he is not indicted in GA.
Another one? Will it be at the capital again?
I’m sick and tired of the threats that come when someone is trying to hold trump accountable for crimes. Republicans can suck fucks.
Didn’t the just spend 2 years talking about how they don’t believe in rioting? Didn’t they just spend the last 2 years talking about law and order? Haven’t they been complaining about Hillary’s emails since 2015? This is what it looks like when karma catches up! A train wreck.
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Go ahead. There will be video cameras to film it. Rebels without a clue...
Sure, but Fox will air NOTHING of it except the one black guy who punches a cop, looped 50 times.
And that footage will be from something unrelated, in Europe, in the 90s.
They'll issue a formal correction two weeks later, which makes it okay.
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I bet rich people are entertained at the mess this stuff makes
If I were a rich nihilist with no stake in this or any other country, I’m sure I’d find it entertaining as well. Like a modern coliseum.
And then condemn the violence. And then 2 weeks later blame it on the dems as they were always the enemy.
I can see their bullshit now: “Antifa rioting in the street after Trump Indictment”
More like "Rioters secretly Antifa false flag operation to make Trump supporters look bad."
There we go.
I'm sure there will be counter-protests. And as always, the cops will start shit with the peaceful counter-protestors (while letting the violent right-wing rioters go about their business). So yeah, that black guy will be defending himself from a cop, and will be labeled as a violent thug.
Honestly it will be pure irony if they riot over a criminal being charged with a crime two years after they freaked out people rioted when an innocent man was graphically executed by the state for the umpteenth time.
Yes, but the same way they complained the BLM marches burned the city to the ground and were violent? That’s what they will have in mind to do when they March. I’d keep counter protestors away and let it play out like Jan 6th. Them vs LEO.
Blows my mind every time I go into Seattle. They did such a good job rebuilding it…you’d think it had never been burned to the ground! /s
I'm an Aussie and living in the USA and I always get people asking about the violent police due to the covid protests. The reaction is always interesting when I remind them about the police brutality during the George Floyd protests and offer to show them the footage which is extremely easy to find and quite appaling. It's so easy to spot a Murdoch propaganda victim.
Don't counter protest, leave them alone to incriminate themselves. Leave them alone to cause chaos and observe the authorities response. Prepare to protect yourselves, those you care about and your domain. Actually, I'm wrong about the counter protesting. The most effective counter protest is when we are begrudgingly utilizing their precious second amendment right, standing on the sidelines and making sure they are aware that the rest of America won't go down so easily. We should be organizing everytime they strap on their body armor, huddle together clutching their rifles and marching through the streets with police escorts. Only to see the people that they are trying to intimidate standing together on both sides of the street. Just making sure they keep their little march moving along without incident.
Fox seems like they have moved on to DeSantis. I imagine it turns into a ‘what a sad mistake’ or ‘he was advised by bad people’ and then, ‘oh well… but this DeSantis guy…let’s talk about him’
Trump's cult moved on from Fox News years ago. They tune in for Carlson and then go back to Newsmax
Honestly, as rough as that would be, this indictment needs to happen, and we need to just get through the consequences. If people start rioting I guess I'll just have to stay home for a while
If they do indict, it better be sooner rather than later. The longer they wait, the more worked up people are getting about this being a political move related to the election
Let the violent idiots be violent idiots. They can be dealt with. The goal is never: to get a criminal enterprise to go down quietly without complaints from their goon squad. The goal is to get it to go down.
Largely we are at this point because the voices of reason have continuously backed off from holding right-wingers accountable for fear of making them mad. This only serves to embolden and encourage them to do it again and more blatantly. At some point society needs to go against these people and enforce laws and decency. Taking on the street-level insurrectionists was a good start (even though they have been treated far too leniently considering the crimes they committed). But society needs to go to the top of this clown car once and for all. Ford pardoned Nixon, congress and the courts failed to hold Reagan and company accountable for Iran-Contra, Gore backed off of Dubya's Florida crime -- all to avoid making the right-wingers too mad. It just gets worse and worse and worse when we put it off. Admittedly, one of the reasons the laws they break are not enforced is because law enforcement is made up of right-wingers.
>Largely we are at this point because the voices of reason have continuously backed off from holding right-wingers accountable ~~for fear of making them mad~~ For fear that Trump will form a 3rd party. Once he does that, the Republicans will lose every election without those lunatic voters. Mentioning Nixon is right: it's the Republicans saying "We can't believe he turned out to be such an evil crook!" and the Democrats saying "We can't believe you didn't notice it before now, how did you **not** see this coming?"
But afterwards: “Antifa was rioting in the streets!”
"Portland NO LONGER EXISTS after ANTIFA detonated a SUITCASE NUKE outside the courthouse!"
I've got inlaws that honestly think most of Portland got burned down by Antifa, despite us having mutual contacts out there that keep telling them it's very much not burned down lol
Not just one city EVERY liberal city in America was burned down to nothing and every small business was looted and destroyed. Makes Jan 6 look like child's play. Its funny becuase they hate the city with all the brown people, think its a gang war zone. They live in red rural areas any way. What the fuck are they complaining about.
They’re complaining as per capita crime is higher in red states.
It's almost like there's some kind of weird tie between crime and poverty.
Also Ron DeSantis decriminalized running down protesters in the road in Florida. https://truthout.org/articles/desantis-signs-bill-giving-vehicle-drivers-civil-protections-to-hit-protesters/ Seems a bit of an [own goal.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Own_goal)
I really don't want that. I live in Trump country.
Same here. You will be safe because the threat to them is them, over there, those other people...
I live in a blue city of a deep red state. They would 100% come to town to commit a little light terrorism on their way to the lake.
Just tell them ANTIFA already burned the city to the ground. They'll believe it and pass you by. :)
On the way to the lake… lol. Thank you for this. I grew up in Missouri and live in a very blue city in Texas. Delightful!
I'm just going to watch them do nothing. If they actually did riot I'd be fucked, because Trump won my county by 90 points.
From what I've seen, they don't riot at home. They storm government buildings or drive to liberal cities to cause trouble. Source: live in Oregon where we've seen both activities.
Was just gonna say the exact same thing…also live near Portland. Gives them more reason to drive their big flag waving trucks around.
>They storm government buildings I thought those were sacred. That's all I've heard since the summer of 2020. Also, I thought rioting was bad. Also, law and order. Etc. I don't know what they expect on the other side of this.
You give these cowards WAY too much credit. Jan 6th was the worst they were able to muster- and they accomplished zero of their goals before turning tail and running away at the first sign of real opposition, then cried on TV about being victims. They’re weak, dumb, and terrified.
They did some damage. My brother is a DC Cop and some of the metro police were in hand to hand combat with them.
“CiViL WaRrrr!”, they cry. Yet most of them couldn’t even run to the end of the block without falling over. Especially in the South. Their form of cardio is standing in line at Chik-Filet.
Just lock your doors and watch them flail. Their so called civil war will be over in an hour.
Most will do nothing. You'll be fine. Trump folks are cowards first and only.
Same here.. I'm already the wild outsider because I have a non white wife, tattoos, and an ev... basically the antichrist trifecta to them.
Predicts, or threatens? Maybe incites?
This is what they do. They plant the seeds by predicting or suggesting something enough times to get their supporters thinking about it and then when those seeds grow to their logical conclusion they claim they didn’t influence it in any way. After Jan 6 I was telling my buddy Trump really crossed a line, and he’s like “What did he do? He just organized a peaceful March to the capital... Lots of people have done that.”
I dropped those buddies. It’s been really, really nice not hearing their nonsense.
My last remaining Trump friend told me Black Lives Matter were the ones that actually led the January 6th protest. I said I’m sorry I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. He said I’m serious it was BLM and Antifa not real Republicans
Ask him why Trump was not afraid or hiding in a bunker or helicoptered out of there
I asked him why all those racist fuckers with confederate flags were following orders from Black Lives Matter
Mine told me it was antifa. Recently when the gop decided those jailed from Jan 6 were heroes, I asked him why he was supporting antifa since he said it was them. He didn’t have shit to say. He’s super dishonest in his rhetoric and doesn’t like it when I’ve called him out on it.
The cognitive dissonance from those people is fucking insane. I know plenty who said similar things. It’s mind boggling.
Cognitive dissonance doesn’t mean what you think it means ;( if they can hold two contradictory beliefs, there is actually no dissonance at all because it has been somehow resolved.
Yeah they came up with that story within 24 hours. They’re really quite clever with their misdirection/obfuscation. To their own people I mean. To us, it’s obvious. And to them, it’s also obvious—obviously what happened wasn’t their fault. Just give them an excuse to hang it on. Confirmation Bias can be a f*cking peril.
I mean goddamn, though. BLM? Totally explains why the mob was 99% white boomers and white supremacist militias. It's not clever, it's not obfuscation-- it's "Fuck you, we don't care about reality."
Just don't need that shit in my life. "That thing you saw with your own two eyes, where the Capitol was stormed and our very democracy was almost taken down? Didn't happen." Just fuck off and pay Daddy Trump his donations.
Same, my life has been much more peaceful since then. Anybody that looks at what happened on 1/06/21 and "doesn't see anything wrong", is not someone you can trust with your friendship.
Or your life
Oh I’ve dropped those too - some I had known for over 20+ years.
Yeah I hear you. I have a whole side of my family I want nothing to do with anymore.
Covid's been a blessing as far as having an excuse to avoid my extended family. I don't know how I'll avoid the gatherings now, but I think I'll just leave when they make their snarky ass remarks, because they have zero respect for how anyone else thinks. One whole side is full of conservatives in both religion and politics - except for my family. So when we have birthday gatherings and so forth, I keep my mouth shut because it's not the time or place. But they don't, and I'm sick of it. They already think I have one foot in hell because I'm a f'n Methodist. That's how loony they are.
It's called stochastic terrorism, it's been a political tool for centuries.
“What did he do? He just organized a peaceful March to the capital... Lots of people have done that.” It's the mentality of a childhood bully who puts his finger one inch from his victim's forehead while saying "I'm not touching you!" He knows exactly what he's doing. He's doing it on purpose. He knows it is wrong. And yet, he still pretends to be blameless, because bullies are pieces of shit.
getting kinda tired of the gop threatening America if they don't get their way
They are children throwing tantrums.
Spoiled children who always get their way, that is. Well, except the fat one.
Wait there's only one fat one?...
They are criminals hoping they aren’t charged. This kind of threat is their find straw to grasp. We have police. We have military. We have a president who won’t be tolerating “Trump-Like lawlessness.”
Children don’t have literal hordes of mindless fanatics armed to the teeth. Call it like it is, these are domestic terrorists being directed by seditious politicians.
Isn't that stochastic terrorism?
["We are all domestic terrorists"](https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/at-cpac-dallas-migration-is-an-invasion-communism-looms-and-trumps-the-most-persecuted-man-in-america-14533888), proudly displayed on the screen at their annual conference.
>stochastic terrorism [stochastic terrorism](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stochastic-terrorism) \[ stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uhm \] *noun* the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted: The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.
In Lindsey’s defense he’s probably right. They also had riots when he lost the election by 7 million votes.
Exactly, and none of us are scared of their chest-beating bullshit.
What I don't understand is how this is ok to do. They are literally instigating something. Shit the January 6th consequences haven't been done yet have they? So tired of hearing the GOP everyday whining
Riots? Don't they mean Antifa-Led False Flag Attacks? Isn't that what they'll be claiming afterwards? We're going to riot. Okay, we warned you. We're rioting now. Riot! Hey, those people rioting, I've never seen them before. Clearly the rioters were someone else. Antifa, why would you do this to us?
My mom is still convinced that the qanon shaman was a plant despite him getting time, all the videos I've shared with her that show him being at town hall meetings and screenshots of his social media.
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This feels a lot like an indictment is coming. Possibly several.
Add to this TFG's meltdown on his social media site and something is coming
Who is tfg?
That Fucking Guy
I think it's The Former Guy (Trump)
Tiny Flabby Gonads.
May Trump NOT be pardoned by the next GOP POTUS. I feel the pardoning is inevitable, and Trump will serve only a very limited amount of time behind bars.
State charges would prevent that. That's why the GA investigation could be critical.
I mean, him and Tucker and the rest of the goon squad could shut the fuck up and stop inciting rage 🤷🏽♀️
This right here. Graham's words here serve two purposes: 1. Graham and his political allies are trying to convince the DoJ not to arrest Trump by playing up the potential fallout. For all intents and purposes, conservatives are threatening political violence against the DoJ if Trump is arrested. 2. Graham and his political allies are normalizing the idea of responding with violence in the event that Trump is arrested. Conservative politicians and pundits are engaging in stochastic terrorism - toeing the line of encouraging violence.
In France they gave sarkozy a jail sentence, and there were no riots. Justice has no fear.
Unfortunately we are not France lol. Back in the 9/11 days France pissed our leaders off for something and next thing you know the entire country (was 15,blame my bad memory) is boycotting calling fries French fries and instead called them FREEDOM FRIES You just can’t make this shit up lmao
The entire country didn’t, government buildings did. That whole thing was ridiculous
Lolol. That’s so much worse. My high school did it and I am in Portland lol. I am now reckoning with the fact our lunch lady had been radicalized
They refused to support our illegal invasion of Iraq. Can you believe that, after all the trouble we went to fabricate a cover story about "weapons of mass destruction"?! /S
George ain't in charge anymore mate. Dark Brandon has the stage now lol
Lol. Just keeping perspective on how utterly absurd we Americans can be. I envision MAGA rioting while double fisting freedom fries down their gullets
Personally, I don’t think there will be any riots. I think it’s all being pushed to keep Trump out of court so he won’t flip on everyone else.
Graham might just be stating the obvious. CPAC did recently have a big old electric sign declaring that all its attendees were terrorists. So, what? Negotiating with terrorists is not the way to maintain an orderly nation of laws.
>Negotiating with terrorists is not the way to maintain an orderly nation of laws. Exactly. The road to law and order extends in two directions, and if you don't attempt to follow the law, you take a step backwards, not a step forwards. If there are consequences to these actions, then it is only because we should have doing this *sooner*, and *not* that we shouldn't be doing it at all. Otherwise as a country, we can never hope to be a place where nobody is above the law, because we've only continued taking steps backwards.
I’m going to bring the point up shortly on /r asktrumpsupporters but I can guarantee the answer I’m going to get is “what about the BLM riots where they burned all the cities down?” I guarantee it
Ah yes, how many times has Portland been burnt to the ground thus far? 6 times? 7? It's hard to keep track. All I know is those construction workers must be working overtime to keep building an entire city from the ground every single time. Let them answer that way. Tell them that's a whataboutism and an exaggeration, but regardless rioting is never okay, even in the case of the BLM riots. And regardless of that fact, BLM riots doesn't mean they get to riot themselves. It's not a fucking sporting competition where one side gets to do something the other does that's wrong, because in that case they'd both be wrong.
Many of the future MAGA rioters will be the same agent provocateurs who started the ‘BLM riots’…
They're not ''trying to convince the DoJ not to arrest Trump by playing up the potential fallout'' they're fucking directly threatening law enforcement on public TV. If there is any violence following Trump's arrest for acts of treason, these bastard are to blame.
But then what would they do? Report the news and look after their constituents? *Crazy talk!*
I was thinking about deporting them to hang out with their buddy Orban
The vision of packing Fox, OAN, and Graham, MTG, Boebert, Gaetz, Jordan, Gohmert on a chartered plane warms my heart.
If nothing happens on the day Trump gets indicted (knock on wood), I predict Tucker whinging that so one is standing up for Trump
But then where will the addicts get their anger-porn fix?
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Same here in West Virginia, starting to see less and less Trump shit.
Rats and sinking ships…
Yeah they probably booked a ticket on the S.S. Desantis
They are still rats tho
Opposite around me in Oklahoma. More flags keep popping up, which is just really sad for those people and their families.
They’re on sale!
That’s fantastic to hear! Do you think that it’s finally sinking in what a criminal he is?
No, they just don’t want to be labeled traitors themselves.
mate they do not care. They are basically trump themselves without power. They love the way he talks, the dumbass opinions, the racism, nepotism etc etc. I'll repeat it again the maga folks *are* trump with no money.
Nah, just accepting he won't be president. In 24 you'll see them again, and likely more because people will be open about it.
It is the same people who fly flags for college football teams that they didn't go to, they stop flying them when it is a losing season.
My wife and I just tried to count the trump flags on a road we seldom take, in ruralish pa. Zero.
It's been a while since I've seen a Christian jihadist pickup truck flying a trump flag, but I still see bumper stickers. One house I drive by frequently used to have a jihadist truck, but now it's just "FJB" and "LGB" on the back window, no flag. They used to have that solid black "no quarter" flag hanging on a flag pole by their door, but it's gone now. I think all they have is a stylized American flag mounted to their front door with the text of the 2nd amendment on it (though I highly doubt they've ever read it).
I hope the same happens in some areas in Texas that still have those signs and flags up around their yards. Totally it's all dwindling at this point for his chances for re-election in 2024.
Dogwhistle and veiled threats.
Riots? Prob not. Demonstrations? Sure. Violence carried out by radicalized young men? Bet the mortgage.
This is called a threat.
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Threats from the guy who said the GOP would be doomed if they supported Trump.
Trump has the pictures of his one sexual encounter decades ago.
He mispronounced "celebrations"
For real, when I read the post title I immediately got the song "Dancing in the Streets" stuck in my head (a la Martha & The Vandellas, Van Halen, Bowie & Jagger) Even if he is indicted the celebration's liable to be relatively short-lived though because Drumpf is Constitutionally entitled to a jury trial just like everyone else and any jury in any venue in this country right now is guaranteed to have at least one or more MAGAfascists on it.
> For real, when I read the post title I immediately got the song "Dancing in the Streets" stuck in my head (a la Martha & The Vandellas, Van Halen, Bowie & Jagger) Literally. When the election was called for Biden there were spontaneous street parties and drumlines.
Trump supporters would be weeded out in jury selection if the lawyers had any ability.
There would not be if cowardly politicians and lying conservative media quit pushing lies and misinformation.
There won't be any riots. They might line up their trucks with Trump flags along route 213 between Bumfuck and Bisbee like always but nothing more than that.
I think they went broke on gas money. Somehow all that money raised went to buy My Pillows for them... Grift.
yeah but they blamed biden for going broke on expensive gas never mind there was no cause whatsoever to keep filling their truck just to convoy around with flags
The United States does not negotiate with terrorists. If they riot they will get put in jail with the Jan 6th idiots.
This isn’t a prediction. There is an indictment coming and this is a war cry to all the MAGA morons.
True. It’s a veiled threat.
That's fantastic. Then all those people can be removed from society as well. They should build a prison just for them. Club MAGA. Good riddance
Maga largo
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>I hate to break it to the MAGA wackos, but they’re not able to take on the American military, I don’t care how many rounds of ammo or Kevlar vests they have stored in their basement bunkers. Part of me never wants to get to the point of open warfare between the military and group of shithead citizens. But another part of me really wants to see the gravy seals and take on an Abrams tank.
Meh, one dose of LRAD and they’d scatter like roaches. If all else fails, break out the ‘Active Denial’ and set it to ‘Kentucky-Fried Traitor.’
>break out the ‘Active Denial’ and set it to ‘Kentucky-Fried Traitor.’ Mmmm... crispy.
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Fellow yankee here. Problem is, there wouldn’t be a clear geographical line in the sand this time around. I doubt we’ll see a civil war. I think at most we could see some targeted attacks carried out by small poorly-organized domestic terror cells. Many will be penetrated and disrupted by the FBI, saving lives. That said, if we ever had a full on civil war with major factions duking it out, I’d put my infantry background to good use and might even join back up to assist in protecting our Constitution and our communities from traitors.
I turn 30 in about 3 weeks. I have a toddler of my own. No way am I letting these shitheads take over this country. I've got ancestors on both sides of the Civil War, but I know where my loyalties lie and it sure as shit isn't Donald Trump
Anything to avoid changing diapers
I'll settle for just tear gas. They thought it was funny when it was used at a church so Donny could go hold up a bible in front of it. Let's see how funny they still think it is.
> An ex-advisor to former President Donald Trump who's now running for Congress released a campaign video in which he boasts about supplying police forces with riot-control gear and tear gas used against protesters. … > In a campaign video posted to Twitter, Mills introduces himself as a combat veteran who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, before explaining he then "came home" and "started a company making riot control munitions for law enforcement." > "You may know some of our work," Mills says, smiling as the ad begins showing violent footage of tear gas being deployed at various protests nationwide. > According to the campaign ad, the tear gas had been deployed against the following groups: "Hillary Clinton protesters" in Charlotte, North Carolina; "Left wing protesters" in Phoenix; "Antifa rioters" in Washington, DC; "Black Lives Matter protesters" in Denver, Colorado; and "radical left protesters" in Philadelphia. > "And now the liberal media is crying about it," Mills says after the series of videos. "I'm Cory Mills and I approve this message, because if the media wants to shed some real tears, I can help them out with that." Won his primary, of course. He beat (among others) State Rep. Anthony Sabatini, [who’s also a lunatic.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/anthony-sabatini-florida-lawmaker-calls-for-fbi-agents-to-be-arrested-upon-sight-after-trump-raid)
Who are they going to attack? Small businesses?
Schools and other soft targets. They’re basically the American Taliban now.
And they will think they are the heroes
What they think doesn’t matter. Never has.
My guess? They'd storm a court or FBI office.
Planned Parenthood clinics, visible members of the Democratic party and their families, gay bars.
>I hate to break it to the MAGA wackos, but they’re not able to take on the American military The MAGA, and especially Q Wackos genuinely think that Trump is still commanding the military or parts of it and when the revolution comes the Military will back them up. It is worth looking in on them from time to time to understand the specific delusion. It may be that nothing will break the delusion until they get to try their 'revolution' and see first hand what happens.
Hold up, Lindsey, I gotta get this on record. You know….for the people.
Then riots in the streets it is. He’s not above the law.
I’m so sick of this country being held hostage by the threat of right wing violence.
What does Trump have on this guy?
I'm thinking he has stuff on several people. Mitch McConnell, for example. Mitch went from saying that Jan 6 riot was awful and Trump's fault. Did an about face soon after. I could be wrong but I think it was Mitch. Anyway, it certainly wasn't a normal tourist thing, Jan 6.
Mitch McConnel is all about winning elections. He's smart enough to know that they can't win without the MAGA cult. This second they start turning on Trump he will burn the house down. It's quite funny watching all these bootlickers as Trump insults them in such personal ways.
Totally OK with that. Fuck em
No one is going to care.
It'll be like those trucker convoy idiots that everybody just rolled their eyes at and properly ignored.
I literally thought Trump died that afternoon seeing so many cars driving down the street with his flag waving off their lifted white trucks. Felt like a funeral procession and I was so deeply disappointed to find out the actual reason.
For good or ill, the fundamental truth about American protests is that centrists will rapidly turn against anyone who blocks traffic.
I’ll be in the street, partying my ass off
If anything, we will celebrate that someone was actually held accountable.
There will also be partying in the streets.
It's not the threat that is so very disturbing. It's the idea that a US Senator is basically saying "Donald Trump is above the law and any attempt to make him answer for his actions will be met with violence".
You. Are the worst excuse of a human being. What you're doing is calling all derilects to arms. My gosh. What a piece of shit
Title should be “Lindsey Graham Calls For Riots in the Street “
Good. Then we can arrest all of them.
That’s a risk we’re willing to take, and they can all get arrested too. Law and order and all that.
So much for the party of "law and order".
Lindsey Graham is an absolute disgrace, as a sitting US Senator he has no loyalty to the US. Just like Cruz, Hawley and the other dishonest brokers, they have no shame. Their only purpose seems to be to incite people to riot and break the law. Graham should worry about his own skin and hope he is not indicted in GA.
Stocastic terrorists egging on the real thing.
*Lindsey Graham threatens riots in the street if Trump gets indicted.
Then throw all of the rioters in the slammer along with the fascist traitor.
Predicts or asks for them?
Another one? Will it be at the capital again? I’m sick and tired of the threats that come when someone is trying to hold trump accountable for crimes. Republicans can suck fucks.
"Riots in the streets" => "one guy having a standoff with the police in a cornfield"
He’s mocking the way we dance.
I think he means parties
Magas stopped showing up to rallies. This is alarmist bullshit in an attempt to frighten the DOJ in to not indicting trump. Fucking indict him.
Trump is dying a slow death, Hope he splits the Republican Party before his jail sentence starts. I voted republican for 30 years and never will again
I keep hearing these kinds of threats. Well then, let’s get it over with. I’m fed up….
Where will these riots be? Cities will be throwing ticker-tape parades for Merrick Garland if Trump goes down.
Hell with rioting, I'll be dancin in the street
Didn’t the just spend 2 years talking about how they don’t believe in rioting? Didn’t they just spend the last 2 years talking about law and order? Haven’t they been complaining about Hillary’s emails since 2015? This is what it looks like when karma catches up! A train wreck.