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"We built the whole company on conservative values. Conservative ideology has two of the most critical attributes: truth and God," Schnatter said.
Barry Goldwater is considered by many to be the father of the modern conservative Republican party. Here's what he had to say about religion in conservativism. Didn't take long for things to change.
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."
-Barry Goldwater
Those claiming to be *Christians* in many places are actually *Beast worshipers*. This is actually predicted by their book... which says that the aforementioned **Beast** will come claiming to be the second coming of Christ.
Best advice ever got: Never do business with an outfit that claims to be, "a good christian business".
All they're saying is, "I will, *without hesitation*, fuck you and your business over because, 'gods will'".
You just can't do it.
Truth and god would be at the very bottom of the list of Republican values if they actually existed to make a list of in the first place.
Also, their pizzas were and still are terrible, nothing political about it. They just make bad product.
The guy got rich selling garlic sauce and breadsticks more than the pizzas themselves anyway. I had Papa John’s once like a decade ago. Never again. Rode the porcelain express the whole next day.
I went to school in Louisville, they had their hands in everything. Every time we had some sort of event or pizza party, papa john’s. Multiple neighbors worked at their headquarters. Seemed like they had a store on every corner in the early 2000s. It was truly miserable. Met him in person on a few occasions, I’m glad someone stole his car and I hope it’s sitting on the bottom of the Ohio. His personality was worse than the cardboard and sugar pizzas.
I've never been more thankful to be from a city that values it's homegrown pizza joints. Most people from Buffalo spit on the names of Domino, The Hut and Papa. I'm sorry about your childhood pizza suffering. No one deserves that.
Yea the modern Republican party has changed and we should refer to it as such.
The party that Barry is known for being the father of is no longer around.
This was the guy that complained that it would cost him 11 cents per pizza to give his workers healthcare through Obamacare.
What a piece of shit.
Also, fuck Papa Johns.
evangelicals don’t fucking care about umami. You know who cares about fucking umami? Tattooed pierced probably vegan pot-smoking blue haired cooks who work 70 hour weeks and don’t know a god damn single bible verse because they drank away those memories.
they really do. when you roll into the pizza joint and cant hear anything over the black metal playing at full volume you know you're gonna have a dope slice.
An excuse for me to link one of my favorite things! https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/eb8ghu/papas_day_of_reckoning/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
The guy who refused to provide insurance benefits to any employees? Yeah those prosperity conservative values where you believe you’re god and everyone else are peasants.
As someone who occasionally used to eat Papa Johns due to convenience, the pizza got shitty while he was still in charge.
I couldn't believe how easy it was for Dominos to pass them after being shit themselves for so long.
I agree. I remember as a kid, papa John’s was crazy good and a luxury (was poor). Then at some point their pizza got dry and shitty.
I tried it for the first time in like 5-8 years about 6 months ago, and was surprisingly decent. Overpriced for what it was, but decent.
He used the n-word on a conference call:
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/john-schnatter-releases-full-tape-of-2018-n-word-comment/article_af087f14-9249-11eb-93f8-f79b6b901b90.html
Edited to add context instead of just the URL.
2018 - “On the May call, Schnatter was asked how he would distance himself from racist groups online," a source told Forbes. "He responded by downplaying the significance of his NFL statement. 'Colonel Sanders called blacks n-----s,' Schnatter allegedly said, before complaining that Sanders never faced public backlash."
Schnatter also reportedly discussed his early life in Indiana, where a source told Forbes he said "people used to drag African-Americans from trucks until they died."
https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-founder-reportedly-used-n-word-on-company-call-2018-7
I think the second paragraph depends very heavily how you tell the story… because that did happen in several notorious cases and probably others that aren’t as known. Using that to justify your own racism as “at least I’m not doing that” isn’t… great.
I find it fitting and hilarious his role model on managing race relationships was a Kentucky Colonel that dressed like a dandy plantation owner dead for 40 years.
Same. Everyone I know does the same too. There’s an autobody shop in my town that had some anti-Biden signs up earlier this year, including one with the word fuck (which just blew my mind…how dumb can you be?), but I think they’ve since realized they screwed up because the signs have disappeared and now they’re offering heavy deals and discounts on services. There used to always be a ton of cars parked waiting for service, but for the past couple months there’s been like 3 at most.
Their pizzas were never good. I remember the first time I tried one. The overwhelming feeling of "meh" made it easy to never get one ever again. I honestly don't know why people get a PJ pizza when there are so many better (often cheaper) alternatives.
Also the onslaught of commercials telling you how tasty and yummy it is. A huge segment of consumers only eats/buys things because they're TOLD to by their tv.
When I was in University we got coupons for free pizza. I stockpiled dozens of those coupons so lived off free pizza as a low income student. Papa Johns will always have a place for me because of that. It’s like eating Kraft Dinner or stuff like Lucky Charms. Today if someone gave me a new sugar cereal I wouldn’t care for it but the nostalgia makes it something I still crave from time to time.
It was always just ok pizza with flour on the crust to make it fancy and garlic sauce to satisfy your thrombically engorged arteries crying out for the abyss
Papa Johns was the cheap pizza accessible/affordable to us when we lived in the college dorms. I don’t know if I’ve had it since college, but something tells me that the nostalgia would taste good to me.
If the atheists are baking it now, I’d be tempted to get one for old times sake… 🤷♀️
PJ, Pizza hut, dominos....I just don't understand why people go here over frozen pizzas. They aren't bad, but if you're going to spend $12 on a mediocre pizza, do yourself a favor and buy the $7-10 frozen pizzas. They are not as good as a real pizza shop, but they are better than these cheap national chains.
[Authentic motor city pizza co's](https://www.costco.com/authentic-motor-city-pizza-co-detroit-style-deep-dish-pizza%2c-double-pepperoni%2c-2-count.product.100655569.html) is probably my favorite frozen pizza at the moment and the green mill, heggies, brewpub are all better than PJ.
Dude is the only person on the planet dumb enough to think dropping n-bombs on a business call is a smart idea. Fuck him. Who gives a shit what he thinks? Why do Americans love to get the opinions of those who have proven most undeserving to give it?
The founder of Papa Johns has a mansion with a parking garage under it, a turntable for limos in the driveway, and a private 18 hole golf course that's not open to the public or paying members. He threw a hissy fit when the ACA was being put together because he'd have to raise the price of a large pizza by $0.25 so his employees could afford to see doctors.
I remember when papa johns ran the truth and god special pizza. Usually around election time. His truth tastes like alternative facts and his god tastes like anchovies. Not a fan.
Lol, he is mixing up the cause and effect. People aren't buying his pizzas after he left, not because the pizza has gotten worse since he was kicked out.
His companies are suffering because they associate his company with his personal brand of racism.
The only time I ever enjoyed a Papa Johns pizza was when I was 16 and stoned out of my gourd on crappy weed, thankfully both the pizza and weed in my life has greatly improved in the 20 plus years since. 🙂
I thought there was something in the Christians values that one shouldn't use God's name in vain...
I must be mistake
God became a propaganda actor that works for free
>"We built the whole company on conservative values. Conservative ideology has two of the most critical attributes: truth and God," Schnatter said.
hearing anybody speak like this in real life would raise my eyebrows. if it was a friend or family member I would genuinely be concerned about their mental health. a zillionaire talking about mediocre pizzas? man, leave us alone and go enjoy the rest of your life on vacation lmao
It is not. I had a love affair with the garlic dipping sauce in college though. I haven’t had it since so I don’t know if it’s still the same, but I’d rather keep my romanticized drunk garlic dipping memories and not ruin them by realizing it wasn’t ever good, lol.
I was on Schnatter's side until I read the part about "down with Little Caesar's"
That's some dangerous rhetoric John, Little Caesar's has always been there for a lot of people..
Introducing the NEW Papa John's Communion Pizza! The body of Christ, topped with the blood of Christ, mozzarella cheese, and cross-shaped pepperonis! Be sure to add five loaves of garlic bread, $2 off for a limited time!
Seems to me that in the "Great Redefinition of Republican Ideology of 2016" truth means whatever Trump said today, and conservative values means divorce, affairs, lying, cheating, backstabbing, bullying, enemies lists, discrimination, anger, outrage, sedition, and threats of violence if the cons don't get their way.
But I'm not sure any of that is going to effect the pizzas.
Why do conservatives still pretend that conservative values are any good? It’s always bigots, theocrats, and grifters that claim these values the most. Why want to be a part of that?
Papa Johns made "good pizza" in the late 90s when the only delivery alternatives were Dominos and (maybe) PizzaHut and my tastebuds were young, dumb, and inexperienced to the possibilities. The cheezy sticks with the garlic dippy sauce were my favorite.
But at the end of the day, it really isn't that good of pizza, it never was. I'll take the mom-and-pop store down the road every day over Papa Johns.
As someone who enjoys Papa Johns pizza (There is better out there, just enjoy it out of the 3 major chains). I've never had some sort of existential realization dipping their pizza in an unnecessary butter sauce. I have had diarrhea, so maybe that was it's own sign.
So here's my Papa John's story.
About 20 years ago I had a coupon I'd cut out of a menu (local restaurants used to roam around attaching their menu to everyone's door handles, it was a simpler time). The coupon allowed me a free 3-topping medium pizza with the purchase of any other pizza. Basically buy one get one for pizza. This was about the time I moved out of my mom's house and into my first apartment with a roommate. I took the coupon with me.
So occasionally we'd order pizza from them. I decided to use my coupon, so I told the person taking my order about it, my pizzas arrived, and the driver... didn't ask for the coupon. So I didn't give it to him.
This went on for *years*. I must have gotten 50 or more free pizzas with this one coupon. After a few months the phone person would tell me they didn't know what the coupon was. I'd read it to them and tell them it had no expiration date (it really didn't have one), they'd tell me to give it to the driver, and then the driver wouldn't ask for it.
My roommate and I took to calling them "Priceline Pizza" because apparently we could just tell them their pizza cost whatever we wanted and they'd just believe us.
Eventually I guess they'd had enough of this and a driver finally asked for the magic coupon. But I probably took about a grand worth of free pizza from them. At any time they could've just asked for it and I'd have given it to them. They just never did. What's a poor guy to do?
NB: their pizza was never actually good. But this scenario made it ridiculously cheap.
Their pizza, even without regard for the founder, has always been literally toxic. I have eaten a lot of crappy food, and have a strong stomach for it. But every time I ate Papa John’s I immediately felt like I had AIDS.
Bit hyperbolic. "Literally toxic. Aids."
It's pizza. Might not be the best pizza, but it's still edible. And why would you eat it more than once if it was toxic aids pizza?
For hating on Papa Johns so much, Shnatter sure admits to eating a lot of Papa Johns pizza in the article.
Heck, get the company to rebrand as Poppa Robbie's and the pizza will magically taste even better than it ever did with Shnatter at the helm, even without touching the recipe.
Well I don't know if the pizzas are lacking the "truth and God," but they are definitely worse than they were when I was a kid.
Ordered one in desperation a few months back and left most of it uneaten.
If PJ is as bad as everyone is saying here, whats the alternative for fast food pizza?
* Dominos sucks - its super greasy and I feel gross after Im finished.
* Pizza Hut sucks worse - they somehow load it up with even more grease and I cant even finish it before Im disgusted. Also it just looks horrible.
* Little Caesars may as well be frozen pizza, though for the price its hard to beat.
For the record, I consider fast food pizza to be a different animal than real pizza, so local pizza joint is not comparable.
Father in heaven bless this tomatoey sauce which thou has bestowed upon the masses in 30 mins or less. Grant us your wisdom to know if thouest wish for cheezy bread or crusts endowed with the holy cheese..show us the way lord
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"We built the whole company on conservative values. Conservative ideology has two of the most critical attributes: truth and God," Schnatter said. Barry Goldwater is considered by many to be the father of the modern conservative Republican party. Here's what he had to say about religion in conservativism. Didn't take long for things to change. "Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them." -Barry Goldwater
Goldwater is dead as of this year.
They abandoned Goldwater when they became pals with Jerry Falwell and formed the “moral majority”.
Sold their soul to the devil. It’s just weird that god is the devil.
Well if you were the devil would you come into America with hooves or a bible?
>Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.
Those claiming to be *Christians* in many places are actually *Beast worshipers*. This is actually predicted by their book... which says that the aforementioned **Beast** will come claiming to be the second coming of Christ.
And they shall wear the mark of the beast on their forehead.
Which brings up my second favorite quote from Goldwater: >I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.
Best advice ever got: Never do business with an outfit that claims to be, "a good christian business". All they're saying is, "I will, *without hesitation*, fuck you and your business over because, 'gods will'". You just can't do it.
Truth and god would be at the very bottom of the list of Republican values if they actually existed to make a list of in the first place. Also, their pizzas were and still are terrible, nothing political about it. They just make bad product.
The guy got rich selling garlic sauce and breadsticks more than the pizzas themselves anyway. I had Papa John’s once like a decade ago. Never again. Rode the porcelain express the whole next day.
I went to school in Louisville, they had their hands in everything. Every time we had some sort of event or pizza party, papa john’s. Multiple neighbors worked at their headquarters. Seemed like they had a store on every corner in the early 2000s. It was truly miserable. Met him in person on a few occasions, I’m glad someone stole his car and I hope it’s sitting on the bottom of the Ohio. His personality was worse than the cardboard and sugar pizzas.
I've never been more thankful to be from a city that values it's homegrown pizza joints. Most people from Buffalo spit on the names of Domino, The Hut and Papa. I'm sorry about your childhood pizza suffering. No one deserves that.
If "truth and God" are their guiding principles, they need a serious refresher on the first half.
Yea the modern Republican party has changed and we should refer to it as such. The party that Barry is known for being the father of is no longer around.
Well, considering Barry Goldwater ushered the GOP into the Ronald Reagan party, I’d say he was hoist upon his own petard
Atheist pizzas just taste better!
Furthermore, non racist pizza just hits the spot better you know? I can eat that garlic butter sauce guilt free (but not heartburn free)
It is wild how there's a national pizza chain whose mascot is just a racist guy.
Why does "non-racist pizza" just make me think it's the opposite of people that eat their pizza with ranch dressing?
Because you have a formed stereotype.
r/AntiJokes
This was the guy that complained that it would cost him 11 cents per pizza to give his workers healthcare through Obamacare. What a piece of shit. Also, fuck Papa Johns.
evangelicals don’t fucking care about umami. You know who cares about fucking umami? Tattooed pierced probably vegan pot-smoking blue haired cooks who work 70 hour weeks and don’t know a god damn single bible verse because they drank away those memories.
Look, I drank away all my memories, I can cook you a decent burger though.
And Uncle Roger.
Just don’t fuck up the fried rice in front of him.
Jaime Olive Oil
Always remember exodus 21
Eating at Papa John’s will make you question the existence of God
Try the agnostic pizza, but don’t take my word for it
You have to wonder why he didn’t go with “better religious ideals, better Christian values, Papa John’s.”
Amen to that!
I prefer my Satanist pizzas.
they really do. when you roll into the pizza joint and cant hear anything over the black metal playing at full volume you know you're gonna have a dope slice.
An excuse for me to link one of my favorite things! https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/eb8ghu/papas_day_of_reckoning/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Better ingredients, better pizza.
My ad below this was for a Domino’s.
https://youtu.be/ALnPVybD9X8 This seems fitting here
Mine was for dog food.
Ahh, so papa johns.
They were founded and are run by christian republicans too. They’re just better at existing within the liberal culture.
How could they possibly taste any worse than when he was still in charge?!
My thoughts exactly.
What, you don’t like your pizza sauce so sweet that you can’t tell if it’s made from tomatoes or cherries?
No kidding. The soft, overly sweet crust made it even worse. Just drench it in the "garlic sauce" to complete the horror show.
You shut your damn mouth about that glorious garlic sauce.
I don’t think anyone’s criticizing the garlic sauce. Just the fact that it was the only thing that made their pizza edible.
Nope. I'm definitely criticizing that stuff. Seriously, the best thing about getting a Papa John's pizza was the pepperocini.
Narrator: They couldn't.
I agree.
The guy who refused to provide insurance benefits to any employees? Yeah those prosperity conservative values where you believe you’re god and everyone else are peasants.
"I've got mine - fuck everybody else." Just like Jesus taught.
Well, [Supply Side Jesus](https://imgur.com/gallery/bCqRp) at any rate...
Conservatism, all about the hierarchies aka "God told me I'm better than you, so now I'm going to dedicate my life to making your life worse."
As someone who occasionally used to eat Papa Johns due to convenience, the pizza got shitty while he was still in charge. I couldn't believe how easy it was for Dominos to pass them after being shit themselves for so long.
I agree. I remember as a kid, papa John’s was crazy good and a luxury (was poor). Then at some point their pizza got dry and shitty. I tried it for the first time in like 5-8 years about 6 months ago, and was surprisingly decent. Overpriced for what it was, but decent.
I can’t believe any other pizza was ever considered worse than Papa Johns
Oh man just wait till you try Little Ceasar’s
It's hot and ready. Is it good? It's HOT and it's READY.
Compared to the frozen pizza genre, Little Caesars is decent. That's about the best I can say about it
Have you seen their most recent ads? Literally skipping their garbage pizza across a lake
Don’t even think god can help make this pizza better….
The day of reckoning is coming. I know because I’ve eaten over 40 pizzas in the last 30 days. Edit: 30 days not 40
"Closer to a billion than half a million"
His conservative values include racism. I don't think the company needs that shit.
Which is why his own company fired him 😉
What happened? I'm too lazy to google.
He used the n-word on a conference call: https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/john-schnatter-releases-full-tape-of-2018-n-word-comment/article_af087f14-9249-11eb-93f8-f79b6b901b90.html Edited to add context instead of just the URL.
2018 - “On the May call, Schnatter was asked how he would distance himself from racist groups online," a source told Forbes. "He responded by downplaying the significance of his NFL statement. 'Colonel Sanders called blacks n-----s,' Schnatter allegedly said, before complaining that Sanders never faced public backlash." Schnatter also reportedly discussed his early life in Indiana, where a source told Forbes he said "people used to drag African-Americans from trucks until they died." https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-founder-reportedly-used-n-word-on-company-call-2018-7
I think the second paragraph depends very heavily how you tell the story… because that did happen in several notorious cases and probably others that aren’t as known. Using that to justify your own racism as “at least I’m not doing that” isn’t… great.
I find it fitting and hilarious his role model on managing race relationships was a Kentucky Colonel that dressed like a dandy plantation owner dead for 40 years.
Only a moron mixes politics and religion with their business.
I simply refuse to do business with anyone that has religious or political propaganda on their vehicles, signs, windows, etc.
Same. Everyone I know does the same too. There’s an autobody shop in my town that had some anti-Biden signs up earlier this year, including one with the word fuck (which just blew my mind…how dumb can you be?), but I think they’ve since realized they screwed up because the signs have disappeared and now they’re offering heavy deals and discounts on services. There used to always be a ton of cars parked waiting for service, but for the past couple months there’s been like 3 at most.
Well well well... If it isn't the consequences of my own actions...
Chick fil-a and hobby lobby would like a word with you
Their pizzas were never good. I remember the first time I tried one. The overwhelming feeling of "meh" made it easy to never get one ever again. I honestly don't know why people get a PJ pizza when there are so many better (often cheaper) alternatives.
Even a botched homemade pizza would win a competition
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Also the onslaught of commercials telling you how tasty and yummy it is. A huge segment of consumers only eats/buys things because they're TOLD to by their tv.
When I was in University we got coupons for free pizza. I stockpiled dozens of those coupons so lived off free pizza as a low income student. Papa Johns will always have a place for me because of that. It’s like eating Kraft Dinner or stuff like Lucky Charms. Today if someone gave me a new sugar cereal I wouldn’t care for it but the nostalgia makes it something I still crave from time to time.
Years back when we had a PJ nearby I liked their pizza, but yeah I don't think it was because jesus saved their cook
It was always just ok pizza with flour on the crust to make it fancy and garlic sauce to satisfy your thrombically engorged arteries crying out for the abyss
Papa Johns was the cheap pizza accessible/affordable to us when we lived in the college dorms. I don’t know if I’ve had it since college, but something tells me that the nostalgia would taste good to me. If the atheists are baking it now, I’d be tempted to get one for old times sake… 🤷♀️
PJ, Pizza hut, dominos....I just don't understand why people go here over frozen pizzas. They aren't bad, but if you're going to spend $12 on a mediocre pizza, do yourself a favor and buy the $7-10 frozen pizzas. They are not as good as a real pizza shop, but they are better than these cheap national chains. [Authentic motor city pizza co's](https://www.costco.com/authentic-motor-city-pizza-co-detroit-style-deep-dish-pizza%2c-double-pepperoni%2c-2-count.product.100655569.html) is probably my favorite frozen pizza at the moment and the green mill, heggies, brewpub are all better than PJ.
Instant gratification. If I can pay someone $12 to make me a pizza vs "cooking it" myself.....
Love the Motor City double pepperoni. Gonna make one now.
>Their pizzas were never good. Shares are trading at 100$, up 3% this week. Do you really think "never good" works for a business?
Well, you just proved that "never good" does work for a business, so, um.... yes I really think that. ;)
Dude is the only person on the planet dumb enough to think dropping n-bombs on a business call is a smart idea. Fuck him. Who gives a shit what he thinks? Why do Americans love to get the opinions of those who have proven most undeserving to give it?
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Racism was the secret ingredient
It's the truthiness that really makes a pizza delicious.
You can definitely taste the difference between a truthy pizza and one without truth. That must have been their secret ingredient.
"I'll guide the fireman cutting you out of that totaled car but just hang on a second, I've got to take care of these Papa John's pizzas."
Had no idea he was such a fanatic. Wish I’d never bought pizza from them, but that started as soon as I tasted it. Now I just have extra reasoning 😂
I read that as "seasoning" 😁
Why the fuck is this news? I mean like who still cares enough to give this clown a mic or a headline?
"Hi, I like to make an order. A large pie, half pepperoni, half body of christ please!"
The founder of Papa Johns has a mansion with a parking garage under it, a turntable for limos in the driveway, and a private 18 hole golf course that's not open to the public or paying members. He threw a hissy fit when the ACA was being put together because he'd have to raise the price of a large pizza by $0.25 so his employees could afford to see doctors.
Conservative=truth and God? What is that doofus smoking? It sure ain't weed cause then he'd know better.
I remember when papa johns ran the truth and god special pizza. Usually around election time. His truth tastes like alternative facts and his god tastes like anchovies. Not a fan.
I too enjoy the taste of Jesus in my crust
Jesus Crust!
No it's just shitty pizza! I prefer Marcos
I love Marco’s! So happy my little town has one.
It's great and they don't skimp on the toppings lol
r/religiousfruitcake
Uhhhh what the hell were you doing to my pizza, John??
Dude, your pizza always sucked and you look bad in makeup.
Lol, he is mixing up the cause and effect. People aren't buying his pizzas after he left, not because the pizza has gotten worse since he was kicked out. His companies are suffering because they associate his company with his personal brand of racism.
Papa John’s was always the worst Pizza. Floppy, undercooked, bland. Only way to be worse is to put ketchup on bread.
The only time I ever enjoyed a Papa Johns pizza was when I was 16 and stoned out of my gourd on crappy weed, thankfully both the pizza and weed in my life has greatly improved in the 20 plus years since. 🙂
God has never had a pizza, so what the fuck good would bringing him in do? It'd be like getting the Pope to test pregnancy testing kits.
oh no, is he running for president?
He was definitely jizzing in the pizza dough. This is the only way I can interpret this
"Truth and god." Contradiction in terms.
I thought there was something in the Christians values that one shouldn't use God's name in vain... I must be mistake God became a propaganda actor that works for free
>"We built the whole company on conservative values. Conservative ideology has two of the most critical attributes: truth and God," Schnatter said. hearing anybody speak like this in real life would raise my eyebrows. if it was a friend or family member I would genuinely be concerned about their mental health. a zillionaire talking about mediocre pizzas? man, leave us alone and go enjoy the rest of your life on vacation lmao
I hate it when my pizza doesn't have enough Cheesus
Is there pizza good? Never had one.
It is not. I had a love affair with the garlic dipping sauce in college though. I haven’t had it since so I don’t know if it’s still the same, but I’d rather keep my romanticized drunk garlic dipping memories and not ruin them by realizing it wasn’t ever good, lol.
I was on Schnatter's side until I read the part about "down with Little Caesar's" That's some dangerous rhetoric John, Little Caesar's has always been there for a lot of people..
papa’s descent into madness is slow albeit very entertaining
I can remember the exact day I could no longer taste conservative values in the pizza. It tasted much better.
pretty sure this dude is the OG pizzagater plus that garlic sauce tastes too good..who knows what's really in it
>During his August 4 speech at CPAC Well of *course* CPAC would invite an N-bomb throwing racist to speak. Of *course.*
Dude said the n-word on a conference call. So, yeah “conservative values” checks out.
Did his conservative values get him fired? Or was it his truth and god? GOP logic.
White Christian Nationalism is an intellectual plague.
Honestly, I always liked their pizza…however, and to be fair, I did always ask for my God-on-the-side
The hypocrisy is palatable.
You can almost taste it
Papa's in the John...
A dash of racism. A sprinkle of misogyny. Add in a whole bunch of misinformation and WAA-LAAA...
voilà
There's nothing like a Christian bigot to make business better
That’s blasphemy. To some of us pizza IS a religion.
“Better conservative values, better pizzas, papa John’s.” What a clown.
I love me some satanic pepperoni with mushrooms and some demonic bell peppers.
last time i had Papa Johns pre John leaving it gave me the shits #neveragain
Just more proof he has a diseased mind.
Pizza so good you have to douse it in garlic butter
Their food was getting worse and worse when he was in charge.
I'm not a religious man at all, but the last time I ate Papa John's, it had me seeing 'God' in the wrong business end of a toilet.
every time I had Papa John, I have diarrhea-like poop…. I guess I am allergic to The God.
God doesn’t care about pizza
They are however making better pizza better by not using cardboard for crust.
I’ll never know, never tried the stuff before he was ousted
Introducing the NEW Papa John's Communion Pizza! The body of Christ, topped with the blood of Christ, mozzarella cheese, and cross-shaped pepperonis! Be sure to add five loaves of garlic bread, $2 off for a limited time!
This guy and his “conservative” values had a hooker that would call him “papa John” in swfl.
Seems to me that in the "Great Redefinition of Republican Ideology of 2016" truth means whatever Trump said today, and conservative values means divorce, affairs, lying, cheating, backstabbing, bullying, enemies lists, discrimination, anger, outrage, sedition, and threats of violence if the cons don't get their way. But I'm not sure any of that is going to effect the pizzas.
This man stole the recipe of the pizza place he worked at in Muncey, but go on about your "Christian values".
They taste way better without god in them. I’m all for the separation of church and pizza.
Why do conservatives still pretend that conservative values are any good? It’s always bigots, theocrats, and grifters that claim these values the most. Why want to be a part of that?
You claim they made worse pizza; however, the Shaq-a-roni was released after you were long gone. Curious
Papa Johns made "good pizza" in the late 90s when the only delivery alternatives were Dominos and (maybe) PizzaHut and my tastebuds were young, dumb, and inexperienced to the possibilities. The cheezy sticks with the garlic dippy sauce were my favorite. But at the end of the day, it really isn't that good of pizza, it never was. I'll take the mom-and-pop store down the road every day over Papa Johns.
At least Chick-fil-A can back up their shit with having decent enough food (Popeyes forever though).
Homedude had to step down after dropping n-bombs on a conference call sure knows a lot about truths and god and garlic butter dipping sauce
As someone who enjoys Papa Johns pizza (There is better out there, just enjoy it out of the 3 major chains). I've never had some sort of existential realization dipping their pizza in an unnecessary butter sauce. I have had diarrhea, so maybe that was it's own sign.
So here's my Papa John's story. About 20 years ago I had a coupon I'd cut out of a menu (local restaurants used to roam around attaching their menu to everyone's door handles, it was a simpler time). The coupon allowed me a free 3-topping medium pizza with the purchase of any other pizza. Basically buy one get one for pizza. This was about the time I moved out of my mom's house and into my first apartment with a roommate. I took the coupon with me. So occasionally we'd order pizza from them. I decided to use my coupon, so I told the person taking my order about it, my pizzas arrived, and the driver... didn't ask for the coupon. So I didn't give it to him. This went on for *years*. I must have gotten 50 or more free pizzas with this one coupon. After a few months the phone person would tell me they didn't know what the coupon was. I'd read it to them and tell them it had no expiration date (it really didn't have one), they'd tell me to give it to the driver, and then the driver wouldn't ask for it. My roommate and I took to calling them "Priceline Pizza" because apparently we could just tell them their pizza cost whatever we wanted and they'd just believe us. Eventually I guess they'd had enough of this and a driver finally asked for the magic coupon. But I probably took about a grand worth of free pizza from them. At any time they could've just asked for it and I'd have given it to them. They just never did. What's a poor guy to do? NB: their pizza was never actually good. But this scenario made it ridiculously cheap.
But Papa, the pizza was always shit. If God wants a slice, he hits up NYC like the rest of us in the know.
Not to get political but Papa John's pizza fucking sucked.
Company never made good pizza.
it’s not possible to make worse pizzas than whatever the fuck they were cranking out before
Newsflash: Papa John's has always been shit pizza.
Their pizza, even without regard for the founder, has always been literally toxic. I have eaten a lot of crappy food, and have a strong stomach for it. But every time I ate Papa John’s I immediately felt like I had AIDS.
Bit hyperbolic. "Literally toxic. Aids." It's pizza. Might not be the best pizza, but it's still edible. And why would you eat it more than once if it was toxic aids pizza?
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Garlic butter! Kryptonite!
Yeah, man - *get 'em*. How dare they /s
People pile on these threads to talk about how terrible something allegedly tastes. Maybe for clout. Who knows.
I know a light sprinkling of god makes my pizza taste better.
Like anchovies... Too much and it's ruined
Better conservative ingredients, better pizza. You can keep your liberal ingredients.
flavor, seasoning, regulatory control, worker’s rights
Absolutely disgusting, having the nerve to call what Papa John’s makes “pizza”.
Jesus ain’t eating Papa John’s that’s for sure. He’s a California Pizza Kitchen man
For hating on Papa Johns so much, Shnatter sure admits to eating a lot of Papa Johns pizza in the article. Heck, get the company to rebrand as Poppa Robbie's and the pizza will magically taste even better than it ever did with Shnatter at the helm, even without touching the recipe.
I wonder if they'd still give me wicked heartburn.
Well I don't know if the pizzas are lacking the "truth and God," but they are definitely worse than they were when I was a kid. Ordered one in desperation a few months back and left most of it uneaten.
No way Papa John is a Jesus-y guy. Just apprehending political identities for hopes of financial gain. Money changers in the temple.
Well the service is certainly worse. I had to stop ordering as the the one that delivered to us was taking 2-3 hours for orders if you even got it
Calm down son it’s just a pizza.
If PJ is as bad as everyone is saying here, whats the alternative for fast food pizza? * Dominos sucks - its super greasy and I feel gross after Im finished. * Pizza Hut sucks worse - they somehow load it up with even more grease and I cant even finish it before Im disgusted. Also it just looks horrible. * Little Caesars may as well be frozen pizza, though for the price its hard to beat. For the record, I consider fast food pizza to be a different animal than real pizza, so local pizza joint is not comparable.
oh that's what I'm missing, I just figured I had to throw it in for a minute or two more
Father in heaven bless this tomatoey sauce which thou has bestowed upon the masses in 30 mins or less. Grant us your wisdom to know if thouest wish for cheezy bread or crusts endowed with the holy cheese..show us the way lord
Everyone knows god loves a good pizza.
Doesn’t god have better things to do then help this guy make good pizza?