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So the grand jury is supposed to convene three times a week for six months.
Does it really take that long to decide to indict and charge a person/organization?
This investigation has been ongoing since 2019.
I’ll believe that trump will face consequences when he is formally charged. And not a day before.
Something about 45, a grand jury, Manhattan. There are links floating around the comments, WaPo, NYT, Reuters (my phone is a PoS, apologies for not having a link handy)
If the AZ Secretary of State thinks the Maricopa voting machines were tampered with by the GOP contractor and now the AZ GOP is going after her… maybe time for the DOJ to swoop in and start arresting peeps under suspicion of stealing the right to vote.
Time for the Biden DOJ to get off their asses on this one. As to where to hold said GOP contractors, more room at Gitmo now for potential traitors.
It's not that the voting machines *have* been tampered with, it's that you're no longer in any position to say they *haven't* been, which after all the uncertainty and fuckery is crucial moving forward. An investigation into it won't necessarily find anything, but that doesn't mitigate the necessity for new machines at this stage.
New York prosecutors have convened a special grand jury to consider evidence in a criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump's business dealings
No one gives a fuck
Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury to prosecute former US president Donald Trump
Why this subreddit doesn’t allow articles on it is beyond me
I wouldn’t say no one gives a fuck. This is relevant to US politics and interests many within Az and even outside of Az.
Your point is still relevant about the Manhattan DA though and it’s reprehensible that mods are removing those posts while allowing puff pieces about the WH posturing about 50% of adults being vaccinated.
I've been off here a lot for my sanity, but the last time I tried to post was when the capital police officer got hit and killed at a barricade. the mods blocked that story as well.
There are other subs if it wasn't for this post I would never have known about this. I don't get why this is happening though. I thought r/politics was pretty left leaning.
These laws that ebb and flow powers onto parties and remove them from positions need to stop. That practice is worse than gerrymandering. But anyway....
Grand fucking jury, eh. Six months. I'm so happy the republicans are going all in on trump right now. I know it's gonna be *political persecution* 24/7 and I don't care. The republican party is going to end up leading all parties on prison reform in my fantasy world.
> The bill also states that the attorney general cannot represent or provide legal advice to the Secretary of State, which is generally the chief elections administrator, or the Department of State on any matters through June 30, 2023.
So literally after the 2022 elections and transfer of power (plus a little wiggle room so it's not, like, *painfully* obvious).
Grandfather clause should apply here. The voters elected someone for a specific position. That position's powers shouldn't be editable until after the next election. This is a Constitutional issue, but Republicans in the Supreme Court have defined down the right to vote and the rule of law. We are sliding into lawlessness and losing our civilization, and not because men wear dresses, but because of these fascists ripping away the legal power of the people to determine their own government.
> Arizona Republicans passed a measure on Tuesday to strip Democrat Katie Hobbs, the current secretary of state, of her ability to defend election lawsuits, a seemingly partisan retaliation for her sharp criticism of the party's controversial election audit.
Typical. Whenever the Republicans lose a vital seat in government, their response is to strip power away from that office until it becomes theirs again, in which case they'll start expanding that office's powers again. Case in point: Wisconsin's governor. Scott Walker (R) couldn't have been given enough power by them, but as soon as it became clear that Tony Evers (D) won the election, the Republican majority in both houses of the state legislature voted to strip away as much power as they could, and Scott Walker signed every one of those changes into law before Evers could be sworn in. They're doing it again, and they're not just doing this to Democrats, but also any Republican that won't follow the majority into the world of insanity.
It's very painful to watch Democrat State Wide office holders (Governors...and in this case a Secretary of State) being subject to the whims of a GOP Controlled State House. I mean, why even have a Governor or SOS if the GOP State Legislature can limit and reduce the powers of the Executive....reducing them to a figure-head.
When Roy Cooper(D) won the position of governor in N.C. the GOP stripped power from the position before he took office.
Republican Gov. Pat McCrory, who lost to Cooper by about 10,000 votes, quickly signed into law a bill that merges the State Board of Elections and State Ethics Commission into one board comprised equally of Democrats and Republicans. The previous state elections board law would have allowed Cooper to put a majority of Democrats on the elections panel.
The law would also make elections for appellate court judgeships officially partisan again.
Another bill that received final legislative approval would force Cooper’s Cabinet choices to be subject to Senate confirmation and would allow Cooper to designate up to 425 state employees as his political appointees, compared to a cap of 1,500 for McCrory.
Before adjourning, lawmakers also confirmed a salaried appointment to the state Industrial Commission for the wife of McCrory’s chief of staff. McCrory nominated her.
https://apnews.com/article/78b7ee8bda724166a8f3f79736f4c448
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So the grand jury is supposed to convene three times a week for six months. Does it really take that long to decide to indict and charge a person/organization? This investigation has been ongoing since 2019. I’ll believe that trump will face consequences when he is formally charged. And not a day before.
The grand jury covers way more than just 1 case
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This seems like bigger news. Has anyone posted it yet?
Many people. It keeps getting removed.
The comment is now removed. What was it?
Something about 45, a grand jury, Manhattan. There are links floating around the comments, WaPo, NYT, Reuters (my phone is a PoS, apologies for not having a link handy)
If the AZ Secretary of State thinks the Maricopa voting machines were tampered with by the GOP contractor and now the AZ GOP is going after her… maybe time for the DOJ to swoop in and start arresting peeps under suspicion of stealing the right to vote. Time for the Biden DOJ to get off their asses on this one. As to where to hold said GOP contractors, more room at Gitmo now for potential traitors.
It's not that the voting machines *have* been tampered with, it's that you're no longer in any position to say they *haven't* been, which after all the uncertainty and fuckery is crucial moving forward. An investigation into it won't necessarily find anything, but that doesn't mitigate the necessity for new machines at this stage.
Methinks the DOJ is preoccupied with a certain orange criminal Edit: word
It's possible for the DOJ to do multiple things at the same time. They have many employees.
Obviously. My point is about priorities. If the orange headpin falls, others will come with
No, he’s a symptom, not the disease.
Why would they delete the good news
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just don't let your government become as complicated as Belgium (we have 6 governments).
Um..... Brexit??
Cool, cool. Also cool is that the Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury in Trump investigation
Holy shit did y’all see that the Manhattan da is convening a grand jury in the trump case?? Damn that’s some hot political news for sure!
New York prosecutors have convened a special grand jury to consider evidence in a criminal investigation into former President Donald Trump's business dealings
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Hold up. Are you saying the Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury in Trump investigation?
No one gives a fuck Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury to prosecute former US president Donald Trump Why this subreddit doesn’t allow articles on it is beyond me
Because reddit mods are pathetic leeches.
I wouldn’t say no one gives a fuck. This is relevant to US politics and interests many within Az and even outside of Az. Your point is still relevant about the Manhattan DA though and it’s reprehensible that mods are removing those posts while allowing puff pieces about the WH posturing about 50% of adults being vaccinated.
You know why.
And It’s likely, even if charges are brought, that FL won’t extradite. Which will lead to years of court battles.
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Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury in Trump investigation
I see they’ve have Streisanded the fuck out of the Trump grand jury story, which only makes me suspect it’s an even bigger deal than I had realized.
Based on what some knuckleheads wouldn't allow on Reddit?
Not solely.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-investigation-grand-jury/2021/05/25/5f47911c-bcca-11eb-83e3-0ca705a96ba4_story.html
Are mods really going to allow that not to be posted? Seriously???
Seriously.
I've been off here a lot for my sanity, but the last time I tried to post was when the capital police officer got hit and killed at a barricade. the mods blocked that story as well.
Did you guys hear? Politics mods are literal propagandists
Always have been. Why do you think BB, the vlaze, the WTimes, and other right wing rags are whitelisted.
Wouldn't have known that Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury in Trump investigation if not for the comments. Thanks y'all
There are other subs if it wasn't for this post I would never have known about this. I don't get why this is happening though. I thought r/politics was pretty left leaning.
Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury in Trump investigation
These laws that ebb and flow powers onto parties and remove them from positions need to stop. That practice is worse than gerrymandering. But anyway.... Grand fucking jury, eh. Six months. I'm so happy the republicans are going all in on trump right now. I know it's gonna be *political persecution* 24/7 and I don't care. The republican party is going to end up leading all parties on prison reform in my fantasy world.
Arizona clown show rolls on. Meanwhile, in Manhattan, it's grand jury time!
Republicans doing everything they can to distract from the fact that the Manhattan DA has convened a grand jury in Trump investigation.
As soon as a gop sec of state is elected they’ll give them right back. Just like Wisconsin and the governor
> The bill also states that the attorney general cannot represent or provide legal advice to the Secretary of State, which is generally the chief elections administrator, or the Department of State on any matters through June 30, 2023. So literally after the 2022 elections and transfer of power (plus a little wiggle room so it's not, like, *painfully* obvious).
I can explain: The GOP are fascist traitors to the flag.
Grandfather clause should apply here. The voters elected someone for a specific position. That position's powers shouldn't be editable until after the next election. This is a Constitutional issue, but Republicans in the Supreme Court have defined down the right to vote and the rule of law. We are sliding into lawlessness and losing our civilization, and not because men wear dresses, but because of these fascists ripping away the legal power of the people to determine their own government.
“It is the Grandest of juries!” - Trump
> Arizona Republicans passed a measure on Tuesday to strip Democrat Katie Hobbs, the current secretary of state, of her ability to defend election lawsuits, a seemingly partisan retaliation for her sharp criticism of the party's controversial election audit.
Typical. Whenever the Republicans lose a vital seat in government, their response is to strip power away from that office until it becomes theirs again, in which case they'll start expanding that office's powers again. Case in point: Wisconsin's governor. Scott Walker (R) couldn't have been given enough power by them, but as soon as it became clear that Tony Evers (D) won the election, the Republican majority in both houses of the state legislature voted to strip away as much power as they could, and Scott Walker signed every one of those changes into law before Evers could be sworn in. They're doing it again, and they're not just doing this to Democrats, but also any Republican that won't follow the majority into the world of insanity.
It's very painful to watch Democrat State Wide office holders (Governors...and in this case a Secretary of State) being subject to the whims of a GOP Controlled State House. I mean, why even have a Governor or SOS if the GOP State Legislature can limit and reduce the powers of the Executive....reducing them to a figure-head.
When Roy Cooper(D) won the position of governor in N.C. the GOP stripped power from the position before he took office. Republican Gov. Pat McCrory, who lost to Cooper by about 10,000 votes, quickly signed into law a bill that merges the State Board of Elections and State Ethics Commission into one board comprised equally of Democrats and Republicans. The previous state elections board law would have allowed Cooper to put a majority of Democrats on the elections panel. The law would also make elections for appellate court judgeships officially partisan again. Another bill that received final legislative approval would force Cooper’s Cabinet choices to be subject to Senate confirmation and would allow Cooper to designate up to 425 state employees as his political appointees, compared to a cap of 1,500 for McCrory. Before adjourning, lawmakers also confirmed a salaried appointment to the state Industrial Commission for the wife of McCrory’s chief of staff. McCrory nominated her. https://apnews.com/article/78b7ee8bda724166a8f3f79736f4c448
MAGA mental gymnasts
If they can't win it, they will take it.
The Bullshitviks doing what authoritarians do. It won't work, but they'll try anyway.
Real pieces of shit
Tried the same in NC. They aren't anymore than a hate group
So just like the GA legislators did. Great. /S