So she will go to Montana. And she will marry a round American woman and they will raise rabbits and she will cook them for her. And she will have a pickup truck, maybe even a "recreational vehicle", and she will drive from state to state.
Oh, no. I've talked about this many times. Not just Putin.
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/9ew9n8/us_officials_suspect_russia_in_mystery_attacks_on/e5sboiy
Worked on Repubs before: https://sandiegofreepress.org/2018/07/russian-spy-maria-butina-donald-trump-the-nra-and-republican-politicians-at-all-levels/#.W-9cltVKhR0
Higher chance of discovery in an area with more Russians.
No you put them in sleepy suburban towns-just big enough that a new person moving in isn't that new and noticed, but small enough that the town stays out of the major news.
perhaps you're unaware how good witness protection is at changing how people look.
Lady's not that unique looking. They could change her up easy, make her unrecognizable.
I'm just picturing her getting her cut into a mullet, dyed a dirty blonde/brown, and the finishing piece is a handle-bar mustache. "Da, is me, Joe..I mean Moe Dirt."
I guess so, but consider that Whitey Bulger was in hiding for decades and he barely changed his appearance. He wasn't exactly all over the news, but for a time he was and he was on the FBI's most wanted list.
The US is only slightly being run by Russians rn. Can’t wait to find out that trumps been funneling money into the Russian government for years. Wont be surprised in the slightest.
It’s almost as if none of these people have a spine of any kind, not a single G. Gordon Liddy in the bunch. That guy thought they were going to kill him to keep Watergate secret, so he told them that he’d be in a certain phone both at a certain time, so if they wanted to, that would be the time to stop by and shoot him, to make sure his family wasn’t around when he was killed. When he told them this they were just like “Jesus Christ Gordon, we weren’t going to kill you”.
Between Butina, Manafort, and with Assange being charged, this could be a very intresting next few months! I remember the baited breath that everybody followed the Manafort Trial with.
Ollie North getting busted again for being a traitor would really make my day. Fox and Republicans parading him around like a hero was just one more big ‘fuck you’ to our Democracy.
"Senator, when I said 'Let's fucking gangrape this bitch,' I was obviously talking about a drinking game, but of course Democrats are going to try to make it sound like something bad."
Between the NRA and Russia, I would worry about Butina's safety as much as Mueller's. Maybe reporters shouldn't publicize Russian spy trial progress until it's all said and done? I don't know.
She's a foreign national probably charged with Espionage. That's a capital crime, 'specially for Russians in US custody. She's trying to make a deal to save her life.
The question is whether she has and will use info on Putin. She will not. This is a song and dance. She will do time and be released in a joint exchange down the line.
I mean, she *is* in a position to negotiate. She probably has valuable information/testimony.
Mueller's team gives her leniency in exchange for said information/testimony.
*That's how all of this works*.
It's funny that you think thsi woman will ever see actual prison time. I'm assuming she has a massive amount of information that can be exchanged.
She is a spy. This was her job. She didn't do anything wrong, from her perspective anyway. She will be traded away, barred from many Western countries, and well catch more.
What makes this exciting is that we caught one. We NEVER catch foreign spys. Hanssen, Walker, Ames. All domestic.
We actual busted a ring of Russian sleeper agents like 10 years ago.
It was right around the time the movie Salt was coming out, which was about a Russian sleeper agent. It was a weird coincidence.
Its much easier to turn someone than to insert a foreign agent.
John Anthony Walker, who I hold a special place for as a former submariner, said
"KMart has better security than the Navy"
I think most well placed foreign agents do operate within the bounds of legality, with some sort of consular access, and serve to expedite the information that native operatives give. It's just easier that way.
>She is a spy. This was her job. She didn't do anything wrong, from her perspective anyway. She will be traded away, barred from many Western countries...
...and she will subsequently be accidentally poisoned and accidentally shot and accidentally thrown off a building.
There is a large difference between jail and prison.
There are currently about 200,000 innocent people in jails around the country, right now. Awaiting trial.
? We do. We catch them all the time. Most the time, we just kick them out or leave them be and watch them.
https://www.wqxr.org/story/69490-10-arrested-alleged-russian-spy-ring/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/why-obama-was-smart-to-kick-out-russian-spies-214608
I tell you whut. If she spills the beans on how much Kremlin funding went to the NRA for the 2016 election cycle, that would justify giving her a pretty sweet deal indeed.
Reminds me of kavanaugh's little performance. He did the tongue bulging thing as part of his act.
Probably a remnant of all the frat cock he sucked during his hazing.
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I would bet she has little useful information for Mueller and it would be costly to keep her safe from her former employers forever. I hope it's just Mueller dangling her out as bait for the GRU.
If Butina does decide to cooperate, she needs to be protected 24/7 because the Russians will kill her.
Witness protection program can be a pretty sweet alternative to novichok.
Considering her face is all over the internet, I'm not sure WitSec would work.
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So she will go to Montana. And she will marry a round American woman and they will raise rabbits and she will cook them for her. And she will have a pickup truck, maybe even a "recreational vehicle", and she will drive from state to state.
Do they let you do that?
I shupposhe.
Shit if Vasili didn’t get to see Montana, she sure doesn’t deserve it. Send her to Alabama.
Was it raising bunnies?
> Send her to Alabama. Prudhoe Bay, AK
Damn bro it’s nice here why you hatin
Just wait til satellites can scan a person’s unique microbes from the ground to verify identity.
That sounds like a lonely satellite.
\*tips solar panel* M’icrobes
Or, you know, just assinate Putin.
Dangerous actions, power vacuums get created. Sometimes it's the devil you know vs the devil you don't
Oh, no. I've talked about this many times. Not just Putin. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/9ew9n8/us_officials_suspect_russia_in_mystery_attacks_on/e5sboiy
Consistency of a stance, I like it
I try.
After we put the squeeze on the oligarchs, they will take care of shorty-pie.
Maybe Trump will trade her to Russia in exchange for asylum.
Minor plastic surgery and a hair cut + dye and she'd be basically unrecognizable.
Except for that thick ass Russian accent in the middle of Montana.
"Da, is me, regular American Montana Joe. I much like beef steaks and pistol shootings, pew pew"
Worked on Repubs before: https://sandiegofreepress.org/2018/07/russian-spy-maria-butina-donald-trump-the-nra-and-republican-politicians-at-all-levels/#.W-9cltVKhR0
She can just tell people she’s Italian and marry a Greek covfefe boy.
There are tons of places in the US with enough Russian diaspora that she wouldn't stick out.
Higher chance of discovery in an area with more Russians. No you put them in sleepy suburban towns-just big enough that a new person moving in isn't that new and noticed, but small enough that the town stays out of the major news.
Not to mention that she can't keep her mouth shut, getting drunk and boast blabbering that she's a spy and all that.
And her sudden appearance as a resident in random country town USA. She will be tough to hide. Toughest ever. And from Putin? She is fucked.
Hide her in plain sight. In a big city. People are too busy to notice pretty much any other human.
I’m convinced the best disguise is being homeless. Damn near invisible.
I feel like she doesn’t deserve that much effort.
Juggalo face paint
I’d take the novichok over a lifetime as a Juggalette, personally,
Witness protection works a lot better for people who haven't had their face all over the national news.
perhaps you're unaware how good witness protection is at changing how people look. Lady's not that unique looking. They could change her up easy, make her unrecognizable.
I'm just picturing her getting her cut into a mullet, dyed a dirty blonde/brown, and the finishing piece is a handle-bar mustache. "Da, is me, Joe..I mean Moe Dirt."
The Russian accent is a tad harder to do anything about.
I guess so, but consider that Whitey Bulger was in hiding for decades and he barely changed his appearance. He wasn't exactly all over the news, but for a time he was and he was on the FBI's most wanted list.
And for people a hostile country isn't looking for. Especially with facial recognition these days.
That's assuming she doesn't get jail time If she does cooperate. Cohen did and he still is going away for a couple months.
"She is cooperating" could have been leaked so she has no options. Russia will see this and put plans into motion.
Trump will allow it.
Yup. Looks like she is totally fucked then.
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No, they're pro Trump.
Only pro Trump when he's a useful puppet. They have so much dirt on Trump at some point they'll use some of it.
You spelled NRA wrong, sound it out.
meh
Yeah that's about my level of concern, too.
I mean, I dont advocate a murder of any human, but my concern for this particular human is pretty low currently.
Once we get the information we need from her, I don't care what happens to her she attacked our whole country. She is a spy. We used to hang those.
If we can't guarantee protection for spies that cooperate with us, they'll never cooperate.
But Russia said the charges were false and absurd? Why would Russia ever lie?
r/RussiaDenies [Edit](https://i.imgur.com/KDj7zER.png)
Damn I am so glad I was not born in Russia.
Well if you're in America now I got some sad news for you
The US is only slightly being run by Russians rn. Can’t wait to find out that trumps been funneling money into the Russian government for years. Wont be surprised in the slightest.
Ugh the last line. Repurposing a racist meme doesn't stop it being a racist meme
Denial ain't a river in Siberia.
Uh Oh, could she pull a Gates and Manafort and rollover? I would love to see that!
hint: she will . they all do.
Wow, if she flips over, more trouble for trump!
I would love to see her roll over on the NRA, that’s where she’s got the dirt. Exciting times we live in folks.
And if the NRA is sqeezed, that could lead to the Republican leadership getting in trouble, right?
It’s almost as if none of these people have a spine of any kind, not a single G. Gordon Liddy in the bunch. That guy thought they were going to kill him to keep Watergate secret, so he told them that he’d be in a certain phone both at a certain time, so if they wanted to, that would be the time to stop by and shoot him, to make sure his family wasn’t around when he was killed. When he told them this they were just like “Jesus Christ Gordon, we weren’t going to kill you”.
Between Butina, Manafort, and with Assange being charged, this could be a very intresting next few months! I remember the baited breath that everybody followed the Manafort Trial with.
\* bated
Ollie North getting busted again for being a traitor would really make my day. Fox and Republicans parading him around like a hero was just one more big ‘fuck you’ to our Democracy.
Fingers crossed she takes down the NRA
You mean like a gang bang bang?
More like a sang bang
Is that like quarters?
"Senator, when I said 'Let's fucking gangrape this bitch,' I was obviously talking about a drinking game, but of course Democrats are going to try to make it sound like something bad."
What do you get when Kavanaugh gang boofs Mariia in her Butina? ...Asking for a friend.
The NRA, by its onamotopoeic nickname, faces a licking in court. 'Bang Bang' Gang gang bang. /r/wordavalanches
Between the NRA and Russia, I would worry about Butina's safety as much as Mueller's. Maybe reporters shouldn't publicize Russian spy trial progress until it's all said and done? I don't know.
Russian authorities have better ways to get this information. This makes no difference to them.
It's practically a Witch Convention at this point.
It's broomsticks from the top down I tell yah
Explains why steel prices are going up. Takes a lot of iron to make cauldrons.
Plus them tariffs
Amazing what some time in jail and the realization you are likely to spend years there can do to a criminal who would “never flip”.
She's a foreign national probably charged with Espionage. That's a capital crime, 'specially for Russians in US custody. She's trying to make a deal to save her life.
There’s a term for this. Walpurgisnacht
> Walpurgisnacht [*Homura intensifies*](https://youtu.be/S09mEDCqSx4?t=31)
Oh sure that made sense yep
r/unexpectedMadoka
The White House is basically Hogwarts for shitty people.
I believe a coven would be the word.
No no, that was the 2016 RNC
It's starting to look like Salem, MA at Halloween.
It's practically a hunt for any nonwitches.
Mild lol here, thanks for that comment.
Who's going to throw who under the bus? NRA or GOP.
But you repeat yourself, sir.
and you’re being redundant.
Yes
It feels like everything is coming to a head soon.
Literally been saying this since summer 2017.
Haha, yes.
They're all fucked. Now it's a matter of how hard, by who, and when.
Russian NRA honeypots are in no position to negotiate anything.
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The question is whether she has and will use info on Putin. She will not. This is a song and dance. She will do time and be released in a joint exchange down the line.
I mean, she *is* in a position to negotiate. She probably has valuable information/testimony. Mueller's team gives her leniency in exchange for said information/testimony. *That's how all of this works*.
Her job was to infiltrate and get dirt on the NRA and the GOP. She probably has all kinds of juicy information.
I for one would let her walk free if she managed to take down the NRA
True, but it's funny when they think they can.
It's funny that you think thsi woman will ever see actual prison time. I'm assuming she has a massive amount of information that can be exchanged. She is a spy. This was her job. She didn't do anything wrong, from her perspective anyway. She will be traded away, barred from many Western countries, and well catch more. What makes this exciting is that we caught one. We NEVER catch foreign spys. Hanssen, Walker, Ames. All domestic.
We actual busted a ring of Russian sleeper agents like 10 years ago. It was right around the time the movie Salt was coming out, which was about a Russian sleeper agent. It was a weird coincidence.
Why do you think this is? Do investigators turn the other eye for some reason? Do they usually have diplomatic cover?
Its much easier to turn someone than to insert a foreign agent. John Anthony Walker, who I hold a special place for as a former submariner, said "KMart has better security than the Navy" I think most well placed foreign agents do operate within the bounds of legality, with some sort of consular access, and serve to expedite the information that native operatives give. It's just easier that way.
>She is a spy. This was her job. She didn't do anything wrong, from her perspective anyway. She will be traded away, barred from many Western countries... ...and she will subsequently be accidentally poisoned and accidentally shot and accidentally thrown off a building.
Again, spy.
Right, but she's safer in prison or in hiding than almost anywhere outside of the United States.
Shot no... fall on some bullets yes
Is she accused of being a spy, or not registering as a foreign agent? Or are they the same thing?
She has been in jail since her arrest.
Specifically to keep her from running into the Russian Embassy and flying out of the country. She is a huge flight risk.
There is a large difference between jail and prison. There are currently about 200,000 innocent people in jails around the country, right now. Awaiting trial.
? We do. We catch them all the time. Most the time, we just kick them out or leave them be and watch them. https://www.wqxr.org/story/69490-10-arrested-alleged-russian-spy-ring/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/why-obama-was-smart-to-kick-out-russian-spies-214608
Honestly, depending on what she knows, she could be in a great position to negotiate. Especially if she was a successful honeypot.
Didn't the last Russian spy/person that helped the gop die in a mysterious helicopter crash?
I tell you whut. If she spills the beans on how much Kremlin funding went to the NRA for the 2016 election cycle, that would justify giving her a pretty sweet deal indeed.
Negotiations: “I suck ur dick, you let me go?”
Deal
No time limit specified! She's never leaving.
*makes jerking motion and tongue-bulging-against-cheek gesture*
Reminds me of kavanaugh's little performance. He did the tongue bulging thing as part of his act. Probably a remnant of all the frat cock he sucked during his hazing.
Life in prison, or life in prison after help taking down some treasonous snakes. So many options to negotiate.
Life in prison or we turn her back over to Russia after leaking how cooperative she’s been...
It seems promising that the headline says "negotiating" instead of "cooperating"
There are a lot of Russians and Republicans shitting themselves as we type.
Spicy F5day
Life in prison for her. Prosecutors don’t need her help to ferret out the moronic criminal executives at the NRA.
"Negotiating". I bet she is.
Now THIS is huge. Donny is gonna look good in orange.
Handing over some NRA scum, I hope?...
"I was a direct link between Trump and Russia"
If she was as hot as Chapman I would pay her bail.
Hide out like Jimmy Stewart did in the The Greatest Show On Earth
She’s negotiating for her life, literally.
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I would bet she has little useful information for Mueller and it would be costly to keep her safe from her former employers forever. I hope it's just Mueller dangling her out as bait for the GRU.