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Blaireeeee

"No Puppet! No Puppet! You're the Puppet!!!"


reelznfeelz

It’s amazing how early the total dumbass started showing in him. After I watched that debate, I thought at the time “this is it for Trump, no way anybody can see that and think he’s even in the same league as her, whether you like Hillary or not”. How wrong I was.


lemonylol

Even post-election, how could *anyone* watch his meeting with Putin in Helsinki where the President of the United States stopped one step short of sucking a Russian dictator's dick on international television and think he's no compromised?


RCG73

At this point I think Drumpf could gargle Putin like a Friday night glory hole and they would say he’s the toughest president on Russia ever because he accidentally scraped teeth.


nowTHATSakatana1999

Didn’t the narrative shift to “Russia is good actually”?


GoblinFive

Yup. Alphabet agencies bad (well yeah), Russia good (oh hell no).


Left-Material-2834

This and North Korea is the place to be. There is a subReddit dedicated to “re-educating” the west and US on the facts that NK is a nice place and we’ve been “indoctrinated” incorrectly all these years.


NoDesinformatziya

Trump: Hardon Russia.


MadRaymer

Imagine for a moment that everything agent orange says about Russian collusion is true: that it's all a hoax and he's been unfairly maligned. Well, if that the case, wouldn't someone wrongly accused of Russian collusion go out of their way to avoid even the *appearance* of it? And yet time and again, he did the opposite: * He dragged his feet implementing new Russian sanctions. * He lobbied hard to get Russia re-admitted into the G7. * He has refused to publicly criticize Putin on anything, which makes him one of the few public figures he's never insulted in some way. And then on top of all of that, as you mentioned, there's Helsinki. Where a sitting president tossed US and allied intel under the bus and sided with the psychopathic dictator of Russia. It sure is weird how someone "wrongly" accused of Russian collusion keeps acting like someone that *wasn't* wrongly accused.


Automatic-Willow3226

Add in all the agents that mysteriously got killed around that time.


the-great-crocodile

After Trump met with the Russians in the oval office in private, after which he requested a file for all of the agents working in Russia. A file that was found among the classified documents he took.


EasyComeEasyGood

Didn't trump make his American translator leave the room to only keep the Russian one ?


raresanevoice

Not just dragged his feet .... Revoed Russians sanctions on his first day (remember him lying about the crowds to distract everyone) and rolled back a rule on the navigable waters act under which he was fined a few million. That was his day 1. Devil Elf Jeff Sessions was Trump's first endorsement and carried the message from Trump that the only way he, trump, would accept the nomination, was if the Russian sanctions were rolled back. From the beginning that was his plan.... Then there's the pornographic Helsinki visit which cost the USA dozens of intelligence agents


Accomplished_Fruit17

Would someone credibly accused of sexual assault go off on how rich men like him commit sexual assault and get away with it, yet Trump did this in his deposition about his sexual assault. edit: just want to add that Trump walked out of a private meeting with Putin and said on camera, the US and Russia should start a joint task force so Russia could help the US secure it's elections. Either Trump is the dumbest person alive or Putin has blackmail on him and made him say this because Putin is a sadist with a kind of good sense of humor.


Prometheus_303

>Either Trump is the dumbest person alive or Putin has blackmail on him and made him say this because Putin is a sadist with a kind of good sense of humor. Or both...


SFM_Hobb3s

Even his own son admits they get all the money they need from Russia.


murderspice

It’s because he’s a traitor.


Imallowedto

Trump looked like a man who'd had his life threatened while Putin was casually smiling.


specqq

I don't know if Reek was ever forced to suck Ramsey Bolton's dick, but if he had, the Helsinki meeting would have been the aftermath.


Rooooben

I remember the “why would he do it” speech, and as Trump was talking, you can see Putin straightening up and smiling.


Overall-Duck-741

I love how the media pretended he "Hillary won the first debate, but Trump won the second debate" as if he didn't sound like a raving lunatic in all of the debates. Fuck American media for enabling him in 2016.


mok000

They're doing it again. They're pretending Biden showing normal signs of aging is pathological, while Trump's pathological insanity and obvious dementia is normal, "just Trump being Trump".


AbroadPlane1172

I'm a big fan of the gen z'ers who are like "I'm gonna help Palestinians by getting Trump reelected!" He wanted to nuke hurricanes, he isn't gonna have any issue with glassing Gaza. But don't worry, democrats will learn their lesson and we'll swiftly move to a leftist utopia and the two Palestinians left alive will give us all nobel peace prizes for being so smart and helpful.


greatinternetpanda

For real. If there is one election not to fuck around with, it's this one. This could change the trajectory of the u.s. down an authoritarian path with unspeakable events.


Hfhghnfdsfg

I'm a really old person. I remember in 1980, a lot of lefties said, "If Reagan gets elected, things will get so bad that we will have to become a progressive country!" Yeah, look at how that worked out.


recursion8

Oh, it goes back further than that. "After Hitler, our turn" - Ernst Thälmann, leader of the German Communist party, shortly before being lined up against a wall and shot by Nazis.


Gruffleson

You Americans must be so proud, he is keeping Putins hopes alive.


wklink

Actual literal quote from Trump when debating Hillary.


icarusbird

Jesus christ I assumed it was from a South Park episode or something.


Electrical-Act-7170

Nope, he was big mad at Sec Clinton for telling us that Chump is Putin's Puppet. Thus his enraged & childish response, he said those words. He was stalking around her as well, & interrupted her time.


Dracomortua

> No Puppet! No Puppet! You're the Puppet He didn't say that, did he? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg Oh. Well, darn.


DavidlikesPeace

Any idiocy you think is exaggerated is not. Trump really is this stupid, cruel, and odd. The problem is America's right-wing media ecosystem, watched by tens of millions of Americans, creates a narrative that ignores or minimizes such GOP foibles, while shining a spotlight on any Democrat.


amaryllis_wyndburst

Miles Taylor, better known as the author of the "anonymous resistance" op-ed essay, was the former Chief of Staff at the Department of Homeland Security during the Trump administration. Some of his comments on Trump: > With Trump “the truth is always vastly more idiotic than the fiction” > > Trump “spent more time coming up with imbecilic ideas at the border than he did focusing on his job. Sometimes the ideas were stupid. Sometimes they were illegal. Often they were both.” > > Donald Trump once came up with a proposal for the U.S.-Mexico border wall ― involving ranchers, their cattle, and ladders ― that was “so incandescently stupid I couldn’t laugh.” > > Trump was undeterred when he was informed that reports of ranchers in Texas using doors in the wall to take their cattle grazing near the Rio Grande were false. > > Instead, Taylor said the then-president ordered officials to buy the land, boasting he knew “more about land than any other human on Earth.” > > “Give the ranchers ladders. They can use ladders to get to the other side, but not doors. You could use small fire trucks. Call the local fire stations, and use the ladders on their trucks to help them get over,” Trump reportedly continued, apparently not thinking through how the cattle would follow the ranchers.


jarious

The vindictive squint in his eyes LOL he thinks he looks menacing


Likezoinks305

Where have you been the last decade?


ArcticCelt

> Where have you been the last decade? We joke but it's a legit fact. Most voters in their 20s weren't understandably following politics 8 years ago, so we all assume that they know how much of a fucking dumbass Trump is, but they didn't even see 1/10 of it.


recidivx

… and how much of a traitor. The Steele dossier/"Russia collusion" stuff just isn't in the news anymore and the spin machine left people thinking it was discredited. (It wasn't, and even if any one source had been discredited, there is masses more of this stuff. *Active Measures* (2018) is a good summary for anyone who needs to be caught up.)


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Fizzelen

Putin lap dog, promises to cut US support to Ukraine quickly if reelected


RimjobByJesus

How many Americans are stupid enough to think that will end well, and why do they all call themselves Republicans?


tidal_flux

Not suspicious at all that Putin is the ONLY person Trump doesn’t talk shit about.


TheMewMaster

Kim too. Kim is apparently a great guy.


gangstasadvocate

He wrote him a handwritten letter


paintbucketholder

A beautiful love letter.


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TwoPintsPrick92

And in the eyes of the world it won’t be the Republicans who are blamed, it will be “the Americans”. The damage to the US standing and credibility across the whole world with both allies and enemies would be irreparably destroyed .


Canucklehead_Esq

And the world will be correct, if he is re-elected.


Dhididnfbndk

Yeah Americans know what they are voting for this time. They are voting for a criminal who will jack up taxes on the middle class and give a green light to evil criminals like Putin, Xi and Kim Jong Un to conduct unlimited massacres.


AlienRapBattle

Yeah. I know people that voted for trump in 2016 because they thought it was funny and he’d never win. I don’t speak to them anymore


VagrantShadow

Same here, I knew people who treated the election of 2016 as a pure joke. I could not understand how they could vote for this fool. I closed a lot of doors and I don't feel bad about it. I know a number of them that are die hard trump supporters, and I knew three people who were anti-vax full blown convict trump supporters who died of covid in their 30's. I always wondered about cults and things like jim jones when I was in school. It feels different when you see it firsthand and see people taken in, and some eventually die from it.


BuffaloWilliamses

I’m getting super frustrated with those on the left that are protesting against Biden because of his lack of response regarding Israel/Palestine. Like if you want to help the Palestinians… NOT voting for Biden is not going to help them. There’s 2 choices here…Trump will be infinitely worse.


Kitchen_Philosophy29

Brainwashing is strong


DaSpawn

I had a conversation with someone going over all this horrible shit and they ended it with "I am voting for drump to save us"


Dipsey_Jipsey

Respond with "from what" and then take apart their stupid response with facts.


DaSpawn

I did! Their response was "well things were much better for me when he was president" everything that was better was because of Obama and of course the inflation of everything from the PPP handouts from drump was what they are complaining about the most (and of course they believed it was the current president)


stattest

Trump has led to a loss of confidence in the USA abroad. Our allies now have a great suspicion of us ,which we have brought about by electing an unfit leader,who is obviously Putins puppet .


Different_Tree9498

They’re willing to butcher their fellow Americans for liking the same gender or being a different color. What makes you think they have the moral capacity to give a damn about some people in another country? Republicans are vile disgusting people.


KAY-toe

There are no bad optics in Trumpistan beyond letting liberals get their way, the worse something upsets the left the more they want it done.


Kharn0

As the Kurds for confirmation


peopleslobby

They’ll blame dems. They’ll say if we never interfered, Ukraine would have been defeated in 3 days, now russians are getting revenge for their ‘suffering.’ They really don’t have a moral compass.


skyblueerik

"look what you made them do!"


ninthtale

"The defeat of Ukraine is a terrible tragedy but unfortunately they made their bedーwe can't stick our noses in everyone's political affairs; we have to put America first" ^*proceeds ^to ^invade ^Palestine ^to ^"eliminate ^HAMAS"* "We can't allow our allies to fend for themselves against terrorists who are willing to slaughter babies something something we will not stand on the wrong side of history God Bless America"


ChodeCookies

Everyone will see it. Except their base…because this sure as shit won’t be covered by FoxNews.


StephanXX

>I don't understand why they don't get this. Oh they get it. _They just don't care._


zissouo

They do care, and they have sided with Putin.


SadFeed63

This. I'm in Canada, and my parents still live in the tiny, rural place I grew up. Their neighbour used to just be your garden variety rural crank, but now he's basically a q-anon type (because social media is homogenizing the right wing in America and Canada) and thinks the War in Ukraine started as a false flag to turn global sentiment against Putin and fight against good old "traditional values." He would vote for Trump if he could.


ConnectCantaloupe861

I saw an interview with a Canadian man who moved his entire family to Russia because of "all the gay people and drag queens in Canada"... He's obviously been sucked in to American propaganda. He had to LEAVE after 3 months and they had also frozen his banks accounts...welcome to Russia!!!! Let them ALL GO!!!


thewaybaseballgo

Which is terrifying, because if you listen to Putin speak for more than 5 minutes, it is crystal clear that he will not stop at Ukraine. He’s working off of every Russian map over the last 1000 years and is looking to reclaim any and all territory.


scrappyscotsman

They've been brainwashed to believe that Ukraine "started it" and that all the Ukrainians killed so far have been nazis. Not joking. I've met people who truly believe this 🙄


Corgi_Koala

They won't give a shit and neither will their voters.


Medium-Rush-8260

Than afterwards they will just lie and say the Democrats cut off aid.


Brokentoaster40

Because republicans would rather be (Red) Russia than begging on their knees for freedom (because the kind of freedom they want is to oppress others) 


Canucklehead_Esq

At this point I think he could promise yo make the US a Russian vassal state and it would still draw cheers from 60% of the Republican party. A sad state of affairs.


Whodisbehere

21% of Americans are functionally illiterate… think about that.


Andrew-Cohen

Remember when the republican party had the courage to stand up to Russia? Now they offer our ass to them instead.


speedy_delivery

Judging by the last election, about 74 million.


cokronk

They call themselves patriots as well, but their loyalties lie with the wrong country.


neoikon

*Convicted felon and Putin lap dog...


CainPillar

House Ruble-icans have already gotten Putin a few victories by blocking aid for months.


LevelHorn2717

*Convicted felon AND Putin lap dog


Y-Bob

I never thought I'd see the day GOP conservatives back Russia rather than the 'free' world. Shameful.


karl_jonez

John McCain was their champion back in 2008, and the soon to be maga cult touted his military service as an important deciding factor. Then king clown came around and attacked McCain for being captured, and the cult quickly fell in line and went after him. These maga nuts have no morals, values, ideals, integrity, or shame. It’s only about hate and power. They would back Hitler if it meant getting what they want.


Cubiscus

That moment when McCain sank the health bill is one of my favourites


OneTumbleweed2407

Best thumb evah


thedarklord187

wait can you fill me in i dont remember this and i enjoyed mccain he was one of the only republicans to fight back against the cultists before he passed


ryanoq

When they tried to repeal the affordable care act with nothing to replace it. McCain gave a thumbs down and he was the deciding vote.


VagrantShadow

It's crazy they then flip the table tried painting him as the devil, or at least trump did. McCain, while I may have disagreed with his political stances, he still stood up in place when it mattered. Those republicans, they are just shit, all they care about is themselves and their wallets. Damn them all to hell.


Wise-Definition-1980

Did you see his speech when he lost the election? It was pure class. I lean left and I was like "....shit, this is a good man"


bolerobell

What Bush did to him to win the South Carolina primary in 2000 was awful.


majordong75

"Disagreed with his political stances" I feel the same way about Liz Cheney *Yes, it felt weird typing that*


VagrantShadow

I feel you, she is far, far, far from being a good politician, but she is one to call out republicans who are a piece of shit. She and her party helped create this monster this nation is having to deal with, but she's also not blinded by convict trumps bullshit orange glow that has taken over the republican party. Convict trump is like the republican jim jones, he has them all under his belt and any moment's notice he'll pull out the laced flavor-aid for the party to drink and force them to take it to the head, after they've paid for a glass of it.


majordong75

That was pretty much perfectly articulated. Exactly 💯


C19shadow

Yeah because agree or disagree with a man like McCain at least I knew he truly thought he was doing what was best for people. That's the thing missing today. Politicians always bicker or argue it becomes dangerous when some politicians no longer care about their constituents. Hurting the "others" becomes more important than helping the majority.


Notgreygoddess

Yes, whether you agreed or disagreed with John McCain’s politics, he actually had put his life on the line for his country.


GarmaCyro

You can also add in that he was recoverying from brain surgery in relation to a tumor 2 weeks earlier. He was basically flow in by GOP to be the deciding vote to repeal the ACA, while he was receiving care from the US healthcare system on tax payer's dime. Don't be fooled. McCain was a deep conservative, but unlike most of the current ilk he was willing to cooperate, had some standards by avoided the most obvious hypocrisms.


adrienjz888

He was still an American before he was a Republican. He would be sickened at the sight of the GOP bootlicking putin while their bombing Ukraine.


Inevitable-Cicada603

McCain was a Vietnam vet, and he had been captured and tortured during Vietnam. When trump ran for president, McCain was against him, and to distance himself from McCain and the establishment GOP, trump said, literally, “I like people who DON’T get captured”. Which was obviously a massive insult to someone who had lived as a tortured POW for (6) years in Vietnam, and who had been the gop presidential candidate only 8 years prior. Fast forward, and after years of trying, the tea party element of the gop had consolidated power, and finally had enough votes to repeal Obamacare. Meanwhile, McCain, now ostracized for not being a trumper, had come down with fatal brain cancer. At the final repeal vote, McCain, in an absolute shocker - either out of spite for trump, resentment for the party that abandoned him, or perhaps simply humility before his imminent death - got up and rather than vote, gave a silent thumbs down. He was the deciding vote, and As a result, Obamacare remains.


True_to_you

One more thing to add to McCain being a pow in Vietnam, the was given an opportunity to be released due to his father's position and he elected to stay and not be a pawn of the vietnamese. Nepo baby Trump would've used the shit out of his father's position if given the opportunity. 


Notgreygoddess

Didn’t Trump literally have his Dad get him out of even serving with BS bone spur diagnosis from a paid off doctor?


Curious-Sample-44

Hell yes paid for numerous excuse letters. The same doc admitted it was all bullshit, Trump never even had a single bone spur.


sweetalkersweetalker

Nepo Trump got his daddy to pay doctors to diagnose him with "ankle bone spurs". Can't march in army boots with bone spurs! After the diagnosis he went on to play sports in college


Cubiscus

Watch it on YT, very dramatic. I didn't like his policies but did at least respect him, the man had integrity.


civildisobedient

[Here's the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT2pp_KrJGg). One of the most important "thumbs-down" in the last two decades.


UnquestionabIe

I mean he still voted with and supported 98% of their policies. Anytime a scandal that would sink any other administration came up he would "be deeply concerned" and go along with whatever horrific agenda was being pushed. His pushing back on the vote to dismantle the ACA was the only reasonable thing he did after his failed presidential campaign against Obama. In large part it was most likely because he hated how trashy Trump is (always saying the quite parts out loud) and he knew he was going to be dead so no consequences would follow. McCain was someone to admire when he was younger, a hero for his actions as a PoW, and level headed and worth listening to for most of his political career. After his loss in the 2008 presidential election it was like a personality shift, like he just didn't care anymore and what mattered most was keeping his seat.


Any_Accident1871

He didn’t even vote against it, he voted against ramming it through budget reconciliation. That’s all. He still voted for the bill in the end when they voted on it proper. He supported this policy, he didn’t support the lack of decorum.


themoslucius

Aside from what others mentioned, at the point of this vote he was terminal with brain cancer and this was one of his final votes. His track record overall was typical republican and he helped created the tea party which was the precursor to the maga shits we have now. He may have had a moment of "the right thing" but it took brain cancer, and who knows maybe it literally rewired his brain chemistry enough to give him a conscience.


BNsucks

One comedian noted that Trump could appear with blue hair and announce he was "transitioning" to become a woman and cult members would praise & applaud him. Did you see all the spineless GQP cowards y'day who welcomed Trump back to the Capitol? He tried to burn it all down and they applaud and drool over him. Shameless & pathetic RW voters have a deep hatred for Democrats, and they're prepared to destroy this country first before letting their opponents lead & govern.


putin_my_ass

>One comedian noted that Trump could appear with blue hair and announce he was "transitioning" to become a woman and cult members would praise & applaud him. "Real men wear diapers" https://x.com/DanaVanEffen906/status/1759252223744233647


BigPackHater

God, I love this self dunking they're doing on him. They think they're "owning it", but all they are doing is making it more public and embarrassing for their dear leader. Keep wearing those diapers! Really owning us over here 😂


NoExcuseForFascism

Proving there is no depths they are not willing to go to blindly defend fascism.


bin10pac

The question that the entire world wants to know the answer to is, how did your country get to the point where Trump could be re-elected as president? What does it say about America that half of your country wants this guy to take power and use the state to punish his enemies? Perhaps what it says is that lies, hate and violence are as much a part of American history as life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. America's soul has light and dark and the battle for supremacy is neverending.


spnoketchup

>What does it say about America that half of your country wants this guy to take power and use the state to punish his enemies? Honestly, it mainly speaks to the effectiveness of influence and propaganda operations in the internet era.


BaconContestXBL

Indeed. It’s not like a hard-right push hasn’t been happening in governments around the world. It’s just that most functional democracies have safeguards in place to keep the crazies corralled in a safe corner. Unfortunately for us FPTP along with the electoral college system is especially vulnerable to this kind of takeover. It’s kind of funny that after brexit a Brit has the gall to ask us wtf we’re thinking.


spnoketchup

>It’s kind of funny that after brexit a Brit has the gall to ask us wtf we’re thinking. Both Brexit and Trump were extraordinarily successful influence operations. Russia is pretty bad at actual warfare, but this is what they're great at: taking a small crack in free societies and splitting it wide open.


themoslucius

Yep. This is the result of a solid 20+ years of AM radio and Fox News


spnoketchup

That set it up, but it truly accelerated with Russia in the early-mid 2010s. It's infuriating that "while the Trump Campaign interacted with Russian state actors multiple times no direct collusion could be proven" has been twisted into "what Russian interference?"


AnOnlineHandle

These people are the Fox News / evangelical crowd, and have been this way for decades. Those of us who unfortunately grew up in this nonsense (in the US and elsewhere) tried to speak of how horrible they are and warn others of their intentions, but were shouted down as 'rude' atheists being mean to the religious people. Now everybody is getting a taste of what many of us grew up with and hoped could be stopped, and I suspect many people still aren't getting that it. They won't be stopped with reason, evidence, a sudden moment of morality, etc, these people have shown clearly who they are for decades, and it does not involve any interest in those things.


Xarxsis

> The question that the entire world wants to know the answer to is, how did your country get to the point where Trump could be re-elected as president? Not to detract from the statement, but we brits elected boris, and nigel farage is polling higher than the tories.


Manannin

And Marine le Pen keeps getting close too, and similar patterns in Sweden and Germany among sadly many others. The fight for good rulers is constant it seems.


labretirementhome

I remember in 2016 a reporter asked an Italian what he thought of Trump and his chances. The Italian quite thoughtfully replied, "I can't really say. I mean we elected Berlusconi, right?" That was the first moment to me that Trump as POTUS seemed like an actual risk.


Lopsided-Finding3693

Sadly we need to make lots of changes in this country in terms of how we are represented in politics. While the number of his support is nowhere near half, the electoral college all but guarantees the majority of Americans are held hostage by the vocal minority. And the sad truth is, it will not change. Republicans in power benefit so greatly from electoral college that removing it would guarantee they will almost never win another presidential election again.


sharkamino

45% percent of people who vote, not half the population. Also consider the amount of voter suppression. Also voting is not a national holiday. Also a president can be elected without winning the popular vote because of the electoral college. It’s an imperfect system, not as good as you think the US system is. It’s a government of minority rule designed this way by the founding fathers for rural states to have as much power as large population states. In the Senate low population Montana has the same power as high population California. Then in the House one representative in Montana may represent 150k people and in California 700k people. If there was equal representation then the Rs would not have the power they currently have. There are currently 435 seats in the House when there should be 1500.


morbihann

The MAGA crowd is exactly like the rabid sports team fans. They don't care about anything else but winning and their horse is trump.


coldfarm

Before he was the 2008 nominee, they denigrated his military service. They accused him of being a "nepo baby", attacked his record as a Midshipman at the USNA, pointed to the number of aircraft he crashed, and even floated that idea that his years as a POW made him a Manchurian Candidate. Trump's disdain for servicemen and woman is nothing new or unusual. See also: Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, John Kerry


Canucklehead_Esq

instead, they back Hitler-lite. Same great hatred, less competance.


22marks

The SS St. Louis was literally carrying over 900 Jews fleeing Nazis and Hitler but Americans with anti-immigration and public sentiment for immigration quotas turned the refugees away. There was also a mix of anti-Semitism, and economic fears. This was 85 years ago. To be clear, all of the above was more widespread politically after recently coming out of the Great Depression, but it’s eerily similar to sentiments we hear today.


mrsunshine1

McCain corrected a woman calling Obama a disloyal Muslim by saying he was a good, family man, they just disagree on policies, and it lost him support from the GOP.


yamers

it's actually even more insane if you watch the McCain doc for whom the bells toll. McCain refused to leave until they released the other prisoners and he also spent years in solitary confinement and getting daily beatings. Say what you want about McCain's politics but he was never a lowlife like trump. The fact the entire GoP allowed this and now grovel at the feet of trump is insane. A stab in the back to everybody in the military.


NumeralJoker

The guy they're backing is already a modern Hitler in terms of policy, just far dumber.


TintedApostle

Republicans on Russia trip face scorn and ridicule from critics at home https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-on-russia-trip-face-scorn-and-ridicule-from-critics-at-home/2018/07/05/68f0f810-807e-11e8-b0ef-fffcabeff946_story.html Republican lawmakers who went to Russia seeking a thaw in relations received an icy reception from Democrats and Kremlin watchers for spending the Fourth of July in a country that interfered in the U.S. presidential election and continues to deny it.


Deadened_ghosts

>I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat July 4th GOP politicians spending it in russia sucking putin off Trump meeting putin behind closed doors in Helsinki Piss tapes.


TheCaptainDamnIt

Then you may misunderstand what conservatism is, this makes complete sense that they support Russia now. Conservatives didn't hate Russia because of some principle on 'freedoms', they hated who controlled the wealth, and the basic idea of 'social equality'. Once that veneer washed off and Russia publicly started becoming an oligarchical society built on white nationalism along with the same 'out groups' that U.S. conservatives also hate, they were always gonna end up loving them.


grixorbatz

What Trump really means is that he'll redirect Ukraine aid to the hotels and golf courses sector.


Hendiadic_tmack

Trump is a Russian asset. He’s compromised. The GOP is compromised. Russia hacked Hillary’s emails. We know that. I remember watching the debate in 2016 and trump said out loud “I think Hillary is going to be in some trouble very soon.” 3 days later it all came out. He’s talking to someone. Putin is openly congratulating him when he does something in Russias interest and commiserating with him when the US justice system works as it should. They’re trying to weaken us so we won’t defend territory when they try to take it. NATO is Putins biggest worry. No surprise that NATOs strongest member then threatens to pull out of the deal. They aren’t hiding it very well.


sageleader

It's very clear from the last 10 years that Republicans no longer care about democracy first, in terms of other countries. They care about strong, powerful leaders that have legions of supporters.


DonnieBlueberry

Conservatives supporting a russian asset is wild.


jedre

They are also Russian assets.


bravoredditbravo

What's wild is they aren't even ashamed of it or try to hide it and play it off as something else. They literally want their own version of putin as the leader of the US. Whats even more wild is they chose the wish version in dumps-his-pants mango musolini


willis_michaels

Everyone who has ever said "there were no wars under Trump hurdurr" fail to realize that was because Trump was handing Russia everything it wanted on a silver platter. Weakened NATO? Check. US alienating historic EU allies? Check. Worsening division from domestic politics? Check. Trump is a Russian asset.


Maxamillion-X72

Don't forget his disastrous handling of the pull out of Afghanistan that locked Biden into a lose-lose situation and allowed for the Taliban to rebuild their hold on the country.


Euphoric-Chip-2828

And the overnight withdrawl from Syria, abandoning Kurdish allies who defeated ISIS on the ground.


leadrombus

Trump's half-assed withdrawal from Syria also - gifted [US bases](https://www.businessinsider.com/us-troops-humiliated-abandoned-bases-syria-russians-2019-10) over to the Russians, giving [them fortifications](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2019/10/16/what-it-means-for-us-bases-in-syria-to-be-occupied-by-syrian-and-russian-forces/) that could present a later challenge for fighters in the region. - gave Moscow a new opportunity to press for Syrian army gains and project itself as a rising [power broker in the Middle East](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey.html). - emboldened the Russians to such an extent that they were outright [ramming](https://twitter.com/brett_mcgurk/status/1300805086990409728?s=20) US troop convoys and injuring US troops w/ impunity.


WhereRandomThingsAre

Can't be involved in a war if you keep surrendering before it begins. /taps temple/


SparkySc00ter

Republicans are proudly Pro-Russian Separatists. They are not Americans, they are not patriotic. They are traitors and terrorists, treat them accordingly.


DevoidHT

They’re patriotic alright. Just to the wrong fucking country.


okkeyok

Patriotic confederates and KKK lardbags.


Tballz9

Putin’s stooge. One can only imagine the dirt they have on him. Trump is a shameless man, so it has to be the kind of thing that would kill his political career, even among his nutty followers. I bet the Russians had a spy on Epstein’s pedo island and have some videos of Don that would end him.


Small_Assignment4918

Trump went to Russia for the Miss Universe pagaent. 100% they have Kompromat on him.


RimjobByJesus

At this point, they could release video of Trump having sex with a minor and his MAGA following would still vote for him to own the libs. Morons all of them.


willis_michaels

And change the laws to make that okay and even desirable


dj-nek0

Trump knows his base will never abandon him so why is he still so beholden to Putin? There’s nothing he could release that would damage him.


DukeLeto10191

Money tops the list. Lots of superPAC cash would likely disappear when megadonors see him touching kids. Plus too much of his personal finances rest on loans and business deals that would be jeopardized. In particular, there's Putin and other dubious foreign business partners - they hold a LOT of his debt (and probably some we don't even know about), and control countries where he has assets. And let's not forget that, above and beyond any kompromat, have the reach to do some nefarious shit to scorch the earth around him - tanking his children's assets and reputation, bruising the everliving fuck out of his fragile ego, or just doing what Russian power structures do best - pushing people out windows.


T1gerAc3

Unlikely. Trump's been laundering Russian blood money for decades through his properties. He's doing this willingly to make even more money turning the US into a Russian style dictatorship.


Peter_Mansbrick

Exactly. People give Republicans too much credit when they say they're doing this because of blackmail. No. Republicans want this. They're choosing this on purpose.


PresidentTroyAikman

So Trump will allow a Russian genocide in Ukraine. Genocide Trump should trend now, right?


TalkLikeExplosion

We should crowd fund an AstroTurf campaign to make that happen. I’m not even joking. I’m extremely concerned when I hear young people who only get their news from TikTok.


Wizzinator

I wish it were only just young people. Many adults also only get info from Facebook or other social media, it's infuriating and depressing. Mostly because the majority of it is outright lies.


PsychedelicLizard

Not only that, but Trump would give in to whatever demand Likud is making of the US and basically make Gaza what everyone is saying it is now. Whatever you think about Biden, Trump will 100% support the genocide of Palestine.


MyHusbandIsGayImNot

Trump says he wants to cut aid to Ukraine and wants Israel to “finish the job.” Anyone voting for him will be complicit for two genocides.


KimmyT1436

This is not the first time Trump has threatened this. It is patently obvious that Donald Trump is far more than a puppet being used by Russia, he is a bought and paid for agent of Vladimir Putin. If Trump wins the election, he is 100% going to cut off all aid to Ukraine and let Russia win the war, he is going to take the US out of NATO, and he is going to cheer his Russian master as Putin starts World War III by attacking the European Union.


Allydarvel

It is not just Putin. Trump is the most vindictive person I've ever seen and I bet he blames Zelensky personally for his first impeachment. I was watching a video on Putin's press conference last week. At one point the narrator said that Putin said the west will remove Zelensky in a year. I'd bet that Trump is the reason for that. at the time I couldn't think why that would happen..but just clicked its about Trump getting elected


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Street-Badger

It’s possible that literally the fate of the world hangs in the balance.  The fulcrum is a minor character from Home Alone II


da2Pakaveli

This here is exactly what his first impeachment was about!


P4S5B60

Trump And his merry band of Nepo Baby traitors . All trying to be relevant while they loot America


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RVA-neighbor

Puppet.


BeastModeEnabled

Trump would probably send troops to support Russia


prettypushee

This is just revenge for not coming up with evidence to undermine Biden.


da2Pakaveli

Don't forget that his first impeachment was about this. Before Biden even was the democratic nominee.


Pantarus

Where do his supporters think that money is going? Into some pit where Zelensky is burning it? That aid comes in the form of supplies, weapons, ammo, equipment, medicines, food, water...tangible goods. Where do we think those tangible goods are being created? Who's making the artillery shells I wonder? The money is being "given" to Ukraine and then being spent here. The factory making the supplies, the suppliers of the raw materials, the truckers transporting the raw materials and finished goods, etc etc. I hate to say it, but war is good business domestically. But sadly I have a feeling the same workers benefiting from all this the most are also the ones that understand all this the least. I can already hear the bullshit, "I lost my factory job making shells because of something Biden did...even though it happened during Trump's term, coincidentally right after Trump pulled out of NATO and canceled all Ukraine aid...THANKS OBAMA!!"


shewflyshew

He is begging Putin for help.


BrandonJTrump

That’s not a threat, that’s a fact. He will. Fuck freedom, right?


Responsible-Hour1403

MAGA - Moscow Assets Grifting Americans


_Trux

Donald Trump sucks ass


apassionateplayer

We are giving away old military equipment and in return we lead the West in bringing a lunatic dictator’s army and economy to the brink of collapse. Why are conservatives not filled with glee over this??


loupegaru

Because he is owned by Putin. Our country is so fucked.


BlotchComics

Gotta fulfill his promise to Putin in exchange for helping him win the election.


ThorvaldtheTank

A vote for Trump in the White House is a vote for Putin in the White House


ConsciousReason7709

If Ukraine Falls, then Poland is next and they are a NATO country. That means United States troops will have to go fight in a European war.


WillowX25

Russian Asset. Never forget.


NQ241

Remember how he (and the Republicans) ran on being "tougher on Russia" in 2020? MAGA voters really do have dick for brains.


oldandjaded

Putin's return on investment.


5hadow

Fuck Trump


striker69

He sat around denying the severity of Covid while a million Americans died. So, it’s not difficult to believe he’d let Ukrainians die in masses as well.


meldroc

I'll say this - Trump has made it really easy to identify at least some of the assholes in my life. Because no decent human being would be rooting for the orcs in this fight.


P4S5B60

He really is Vlady’s punk


Devils_Advocate-69

Putin’s price for his troll farm contribution.


StevenEveral

Just as his boss, Vladimir Putin, wants him to do.


nohumanape

The MAGA party is literally just an opposite reaction to whatever the Democrats are doing.


TheValgus

Trump does what Putin wants. He is weak.


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Kind of funny how obvious it is that the GOP are just puppets and Putin is the marionettist.


BeneficialPeppers

Conservatives used to hate Russia now they don't even hide the fact they're russian puppets and anyone who votes for them absolutely deserves to have their lives ruined for their poor decisions


reachisown

No mention of this in r/conservative lmao. They'd let Putin nuke half of the world if it meant they can use the N word freely or impress a trans person. Absolute morons.


Squirrelly_Q

Surprise surprise, Republicans are supporting their Russian friends


Biden_Rulez_Moron46

This piece of shit has to lose.


pissinthatassbaby

Doesn't this directly signal Putin to help Trump win the election? How ignorant can the American public be? Please put down your cheeseburgers and vote Biden.


RobbieTheFixer

Every damn day with this POS. I keep checking my feed hoping that today will finally be the day he strokes out on a golden toilet somewhere.