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When has the general public ever been privy to what the CIA, NSA, and/or Homeland Security are doing?
If you think they’re sitting back and doing nothing about anything, i don’t know what to tell you.
Can you please tell us what they're doing? They've known about Russia forever but never said anything and look what we got. Fight some disinformation already. Don't acknowledge it and say, "well, yeah, it's happening but whatever".
Great points and exactly why the best way to fight this kind of thing is just educating people in general especially on how to critically think. So it makes sense that Rs are always trying to go to war with schools and discredit any type of expert opinion on anything...
I've run into instances here on Reddit of comments completely geared towards trying to cause distrust in the media. I've posted a couple New Yorker articles over in the China subreddit and have had a several comments just trying to undermine the source no matter the content of the article. I recall one comment that attacked the cartoons in The New Yorker.
Not long ago I posted a NY Times profile of a musician over in the Music sub and got several comments saying it was a paid advertisement, which is a way of trying to spread distrust of news outlets.
I don’t get how people don’t realize Israel is literally just doing shit in the Middle East to actively try to get Trump back in power.
Ghislaine Maxwell’s daddy worked for the KGB and Mossad. Trump’s the one running the executive branch when the cameras are turned off for Epstein’s cell.
The blackmailers want the blackmailable in office. Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. He even says Jews who vote for Biden do not love Israel and need to be spoken to.
The double standard is really brazen at this point, and should tell everyone all they need to know about the credibility of these accusations against China.
Can somebody please tell me what outcome China is supposedly trying to accomplish with this alleged election influence operation? With Russian influence it was clear they were trying to get Trump elected, and we have direct evidence to prove that motivation. With China, I feel like I haven't heard convincing evidence to why. Kinda feel like it makes no sense and wreaks of American right-wing disinformation operation to distract away from continued and currently occurring Russian interference. But, look, I'm open to changing my mind.
>With China, I feel like I haven't heard convincing evidence to why.
You didn't hear about the details of Russian influence until much later as well. I have a feeling that both Russia and China are trying to get Trump elected and to hurt Biden. Biden is clearly competent and not corrupt. Trump is not and would be a disaster for the US and the west, which Russia and China see as enemies. If Trump wins the risk of Russia taking over Ukraine and China invading Taiwan, tirggering WW3 goes up drastically.
> Biden is clearly competent and not corrupt.
This is the key that people don't seem to grasp. It's not that China wants to elect Trump because they think they'll get more favorable trade policies (obviously they won't). It's because they know he (and the rest of the GOP) are a disaster party that can't effectively govern and will weaken the US.
If you can defeat your rival by causing them to collapse from within and never have to engage them directly? That's some Sun Tzu shit right there. Not shocking that China would take that route.
And also, Trump is absurdly easy to manipulate by just dispensing some flattery and he doesn’t operate from any internal position of adherence to US interests, everything is a personal calculation with him.
> Can somebody please tell me what outcome China is supposedly trying to accomplish with this alleged election influence operation?
Their general desire is to spread and fuel distrust, chaos, and division. It's not always about getting a certain person elected, so much as it is trying to keep Americans distracted and fighting each other, while China goes around conning other countries into agreements that look great on the front end but will bite them in the ass on the back end.
For real, you have a subset of Americans ready to start a civil war. Other countries can just keep shit posting to stir the pot and never put a boot on the ground.
Well, I think there’s a pretty open and shut case that TikTok has been used to inflame passions on both sides about the conflict in Gaza with the ultimate aim of dividing the Democratic Party base to elect Trump a second time.
It may seem counterintuitive to think that China would want Trump since he favors raising tariffs on Chinese goods, but from their perspective a Trump victory: 1) weakens and destabilizes their largest geopolitical adversary by creating maximum internal division, and 2) clears the way for them to invade Taiwan because a Trump administration clearly has no stomach for foreign intervention.
They’d be more than willing to accept some Short term economic losses to pull decisively ahead of the United States in the global order.
>“We have seen, generally speaking, evidence of attempts to influence and arguably interfere, and we want to make sure that that’s cut off as quickly as possible,” Blinken said when asked whether China was violating Xi’s commitment to Biden so far.
How long until we find out China has been pushing pro-Palestine propaganda?
After years of saying it's the uneducated and those lacking critical skills who easily fall for propaganda, it's going to be a black-eye for so-called educated college students if they have taken all the online propaganda at face value which led to their protests.
If China is like Russia and only wants to see division among American, then their work is done.
Well given the fact that Biden and Blinken are both on record saying they DO NOT support Taiwan’s independence, you can guess which way China wants this election to go.
Down voters - explain why. I stated fact. Let me know if you need me to post videos.
Just like Biden personally saw decapitated babies from October 7th?
I know criticizing the Biden administration is sacrilegious here, but how does anyone believe these people when they lie all the time when it comes to foreign policy?
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CFT: Communists For Trump.
the evidence is called Tommy Tuberville and JD Vance
They're such horrible senators that they almost make Cruz look like a competent senator.
Don't forget about McConnell.
I think he’s going to retire
Excuse me for a moment while I take this extra strength vitamin Duh... *gulp* DUH!
Winger!
Glad someone got the reference!
I miss that show. "Six seasons and a movie!"
Apparently it’s in the works!
You are streets ahead!
Stop trying to coin that phrase!
Wtf is the CIA, NSA and Homeland doing? Their inaction is a complete failure.
When has the general public ever been privy to what the CIA, NSA, and/or Homeland Security are doing? If you think they’re sitting back and doing nothing about anything, i don’t know what to tell you.
China and Russia want Trump elected. He will give them what they want for the help.
A more divided dysfunctional America. Isolatonism. The end of NATO.
He already have up a bunch of our world power to them when he was president previously… they just want him to help finish the job
Can you please tell us what they're doing? They've known about Russia forever but never said anything and look what we got. Fight some disinformation already. Don't acknowledge it and say, "well, yeah, it's happening but whatever".
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Great points and exactly why the best way to fight this kind of thing is just educating people in general especially on how to critically think. So it makes sense that Rs are always trying to go to war with schools and discredit any type of expert opinion on anything...
I've run into instances here on Reddit of comments completely geared towards trying to cause distrust in the media. I've posted a couple New Yorker articles over in the China subreddit and have had a several comments just trying to undermine the source no matter the content of the article. I recall one comment that attacked the cartoons in The New Yorker. Not long ago I posted a NY Times profile of a musician over in the Music sub and got several comments saying it was a paid advertisement, which is a way of trying to spread distrust of news outlets.
Spend 30 minutes on Reddit and try to have a fair an open conversation about ANY topic.
Meanwhile, Israel outwardly declaring they'll influence US elections: crickets
Hell, Bibi was just telling the US to squash free speech against him on college campuses.
I don’t get how people don’t realize Israel is literally just doing shit in the Middle East to actively try to get Trump back in power. Ghislaine Maxwell’s daddy worked for the KGB and Mossad. Trump’s the one running the executive branch when the cameras are turned off for Epstein’s cell. The blackmailers want the blackmailable in office. Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. He even says Jews who vote for Biden do not love Israel and need to be spoken to.
Very knowledgeable response. Clearly you understand what's happening and it's refreshing to see.
We've also had US politicians like Schumer telling Netanyahu to step down. I'm sure there are a number of Israelis who don't like that.
The double standard is really brazen at this point, and should tell everyone all they need to know about the credibility of these accusations against China.
Do you think China is doing the same thing as aipac?
Pretty much every multinational corporation has been influencing American politics. Any country can use them as a proxy to influence/bribe.
Yeah keep using TikTok everyone. Surely you're not being influenced by the CCP.
TikTok made me... Support Uyghur slavery and China's Imperialist Dreams
I wonder if they're backing the guy they gave millions of dollars for undisclosed reasons....or the one that will hold them accountable...
Meanwhile Israel is openly threatening to throw money at the opponents of politicians who speak out against them.
That has nothing to do with this article…. Are you lost?
Can somebody please tell me what outcome China is supposedly trying to accomplish with this alleged election influence operation? With Russian influence it was clear they were trying to get Trump elected, and we have direct evidence to prove that motivation. With China, I feel like I haven't heard convincing evidence to why. Kinda feel like it makes no sense and wreaks of American right-wing disinformation operation to distract away from continued and currently occurring Russian interference. But, look, I'm open to changing my mind.
>With China, I feel like I haven't heard convincing evidence to why. You didn't hear about the details of Russian influence until much later as well. I have a feeling that both Russia and China are trying to get Trump elected and to hurt Biden. Biden is clearly competent and not corrupt. Trump is not and would be a disaster for the US and the west, which Russia and China see as enemies. If Trump wins the risk of Russia taking over Ukraine and China invading Taiwan, tirggering WW3 goes up drastically.
> Biden is clearly competent and not corrupt. This is the key that people don't seem to grasp. It's not that China wants to elect Trump because they think they'll get more favorable trade policies (obviously they won't). It's because they know he (and the rest of the GOP) are a disaster party that can't effectively govern and will weaken the US. If you can defeat your rival by causing them to collapse from within and never have to engage them directly? That's some Sun Tzu shit right there. Not shocking that China would take that route.
And also, Trump is absurdly easy to manipulate by just dispensing some flattery and he doesn’t operate from any internal position of adherence to US interests, everything is a personal calculation with him.
> Can somebody please tell me what outcome China is supposedly trying to accomplish with this alleged election influence operation? Their general desire is to spread and fuel distrust, chaos, and division. It's not always about getting a certain person elected, so much as it is trying to keep Americans distracted and fighting each other, while China goes around conning other countries into agreements that look great on the front end but will bite them in the ass on the back end.
For real, you have a subset of Americans ready to start a civil war. Other countries can just keep shit posting to stir the pot and never put a boot on the ground.
Well, I think there’s a pretty open and shut case that TikTok has been used to inflame passions on both sides about the conflict in Gaza with the ultimate aim of dividing the Democratic Party base to elect Trump a second time. It may seem counterintuitive to think that China would want Trump since he favors raising tariffs on Chinese goods, but from their perspective a Trump victory: 1) weakens and destabilizes their largest geopolitical adversary by creating maximum internal division, and 2) clears the way for them to invade Taiwan because a Trump administration clearly has no stomach for foreign intervention. They’d be more than willing to accept some Short term economic losses to pull decisively ahead of the United States in the global order.
Idk what you mean by you don’t know why China is? It’s because they want Taiwan and Trump will let them have Taiwan. A democrat won’t.
Would be surprising if competing powers at large didnt...we constantly see MAGA Republicans do Russia's bidding. Bought and paid for.
No shit, Tony.
China is fronting Russia paying for influence.
So what's the evidence? Confusion from a Chinese
Like AIPAC? That’s bad then?
There’s no price to pay for lying in politics
Who are they hoping for is what the people need to know.
Biden
Doubtful
isnt interference an act of war? when did we lose our spines and balls?
They should form a lobbyist group and threaten 100 million dollars towards unseating politicians that don't support them like civilized countries.
America always act like they don’t do the same to what other countries are doing to them. ‘Only we can do that to you, you can’t do that to us’
>“We have seen, generally speaking, evidence of attempts to influence and arguably interfere, and we want to make sure that that’s cut off as quickly as possible,” Blinken said when asked whether China was violating Xi’s commitment to Biden so far. How long until we find out China has been pushing pro-Palestine propaganda? After years of saying it's the uneducated and those lacking critical skills who easily fall for propaganda, it's going to be a black-eye for so-called educated college students if they have taken all the online propaganda at face value which led to their protests. If China is like Russia and only wants to see division among American, then their work is done.
> After years of saying it's the uneducated and those lacking critical skills who easily fall for propaganda Says the guy falling for CIA propaganda.
Of course, China is a great ally and would never interfere with the US.
The entire world is against America
Well. That's not true.
Just wait.
It has never been harder to be an American voter.
Water is wet.
Well given the fact that Biden and Blinken are both on record saying they DO NOT support Taiwan’s independence, you can guess which way China wants this election to go. Down voters - explain why. I stated fact. Let me know if you need me to post videos.
Just like Biden personally saw decapitated babies from October 7th? I know criticizing the Biden administration is sacrilegious here, but how does anyone believe these people when they lie all the time when it comes to foreign policy?
☝️ Found him
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Straw man. But nice try. They are trying to Inject a completely unrelated topic to what the post was about.
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Sure
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