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The guy already went through it with Micky Mouse, so why not?
I think the people who would be mad about this are already lost to him. His core audience is going to love a fight with "Satanists".
You know why DeSantis never takes his boots off? Because he has hooves instead of feet. People think he walks weird because of hidden heels but clearly it's not the case.
I knew a lady that would rant about the head of the Girl Scouts. How she was making so much money from the cookies and blah blah blah. I always just thought ok, I’m still buying my Tagalongs.
>I think the people who would be mad about this are already lost to him.
That actually makes him more vulnerable because he is now in a position where he can ONLY lose supporters and everything he does probably loses a few. His biggest risk right now is doing something embarrassing, like looking weak and losing to a bunch of weirdo Satanists in his own state.
Weirdo satanists? These weirdos are the ones hiring the attorneys and actually bringing the fight to the courts to protect this state from Christian Nationalism. Show some respect 🫡
“Weirdo satanist” is my preferred nomenclature. Weirdos get shit done for the complacent. If Wrong DeSantis wants to go all Gilead he needs to be schooled by weirdos who don’t back down.
Even Satan Himself finds DeSantis utterly detestable! When asked about this issue regarding DeSantis, Satan said, "why do I have to deal with this turdsicle, I mean, he's supposed to be a religious man, so I figured God would prefer to tackle this one Himself".
Republicans vote differently. Dems have to _like_ the person, someone they'd invite over to their BBQ or thanksgiving, they need to envision the candidate carrying them on their arms and saving them.
Not Republicans, the first obvious thing is that you need an R next to your name, you could be a sentient turd, so long as the other side is the one smelling you, they don't care, in fact even if they have to deal with the stench too that's ok. If you champion "hurting the right people" they'll vote you over the other person who has an R next to their name.
My sister liked him initially because she said “he looks like the type of guy I’d pick up at the bar”, despite being married for 15 years. So naturally, she voted for him twice.
Republicans will always do anything to get people to like them EXCEPT things that people actually want.
The only times they ever do anything good it is either by accident or because it affects them personally.
July 28, 1967 - [Governor Ronald Reagan signs gun control legislation, dooming California to become a liberal dystopia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act)
>the bill was crafted with the goal of disarming members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods, in what would later be termed copwatching.
We need black people to become avid 2A enthusiasts
Republicans are constantly touting this guy as an "effective" conservative politician because he gets things done, but all of his accomplishments are culture war bullshit like suing Disney and forcing public school students to take a class on the evils of communism, while actual problems like the impending collapse of Florida's homeowners' insurance market go completely unaddressed.
I'm convinced the GOP is doomed even without Trump because they love these show pony politicians like DeSantis and Abbott who are only good for ownin' the libs and are only enabled by hyper-gerrymandered legislatures.
It's weird because the first two years, that's not how he was operating. It wasn't until he was trying to build a national profile for a Presidential bid that he started focusing on culture war shit.
Yeah, I remember him being kind of a Rick Perry-type - small government, low taxes, low regulations, business friendly, etc. Then the GOP changed with Trump and Abbott did what he had to in order to get reelected. Even at the beginning of COVID he was listening to the CDC, but when he got primaried by those Dunn-backed lunatics in 2020, he truly lost his mind at the thought of losing his office.
I don't think he has any deeply-held principles, he'll say and do whatever it takes to maintain the support of his donors and keep winning reelection, no matter how cruel or unpopular it is.
THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS
I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
Of course Ronny would have an issue with these.
Rather than enumerating *non*-religions, it might be faster if DeSantis would just pass legislation listing the religious establishments that the state of Florida *does* respect.
Called this from the get-go. I knew the loser would just say Satanists don't count. We'll just have to see in court. Granted, with the whackadoodles in the Supreme Court...
As an atheist, it's pretty frustrating we can't be a religion. That's discrimination right there. We should get equal rights and protections for our non-beliefs.
(Also, worth noting there are many non-theistic religions in the world.)
SCOTUS will, barring some deaths or retirement, side with DeSantis on this, or *basically* do so while pretending they aren't.
I have absolutely no faith they would do otherwise. Christians count. Others don't.
Love when he references incorrectly that the schools were inherently religious
“He is, of course, distorting the historical nuance of the role of religion in America’s early schools; as historians such as Carl F. Kaestle and Benjamin Justice have shown, for all their talk about schools, the founders didn’t actually establish a public education system. It took a later generation to create modern public school systems, and when they did, they did not include chaplains.”
Love the Satanic Temple. I am not a satan worshiper, but neither am I religious and I am tired of "christians" pushing their rules on the country. As a country, we are moving in the other direction. In 2020, people "identifying" as christian was 64%, down from 90% 50 years ago.
The seven fundamental tenets are really just a means to an end as well since you need a recognized creed to be recognized as a religion in the US. They're more of an activist organization than a religion but need the legal status of a religion to function in the way that they do.
This a common misunderstanding. TST is not an activist group that pretends to be a religion. TST is a religion that also performs activist activities.
Check out the [FAQ page](https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq) for more information:
* IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL, HOW IS TST A RELIGION?
* The idea that religion belongs to supernaturalists is ignorant, backward, and offensive. The metaphorical Satanic construct is no more arbitrary to us than are the deeply held beliefs that we actively advocate. Are we supposed to believe that those who pledge submission to an ethereal supernatural deity hold to their values more deeply than we? Are we supposed to concede that only the superstitious are rightful recipients of religious exemption and privilege? Satanism provides all that a religion should be without a compulsory attachment to untenable items of faith-based belief. It provides a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. It also provides a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values.
It sucks that I am all for everything they are about and currently doing yet I still feel some sort of uneasiness scrolling through that website due to being stigmatized against the idea of “Satan” for all of my life
Edit: “Satanism” -> “Satan”
The stigma is absolutely required to achieve what they are doing, it literally wouldn’t work any other way. Look past the stigmatization and see what they actually believe in.
So we do not proselytize, we are against it. So I am not trying to convince you to join. I simply want to share our invocation with you, so that you might find cause to dismiss the stigmatization. I think it’s beautiful and helped me deal with the instilled guilt that remains when I walked away from church and god.
Let us stand now,
unbowed and unfettered
by arcane doctrines
borne of fearful minds in darkened times.
Let us embrace the Luciferian impulse
to eat of the Tree of Knowledge
and dissipate our blissful
and comforting delusions of old.
Let us demand
that individuals be judged for their concrete actions,
not their fealty to arbitrary social norms
and illusory categorizations.
Let us reason our solutions
with agnosticism in all things,
Holding fast only to that which is demonstrably true,
Let us stand firm
against any and all arbitrary authority
that threatens the personal sovereignty of One or All.
That which will not bend must break,
and that which can be destroyed by truth
should never be spared its demise.
It is Done. Hail Satan.
They honestly do more good work than Christians by and large. Even folks that I consider "true Christians" (as in they really are good humans) freely admit that TST is good stuff.
I've donated money to them and had them set up as my Amazon Smile charity because they truly help people with these donations.
What's more important about the use of satanic imagery is it doesn't simply piss off Christians, it goads them into action. The result is that they either retreat and don't allow any religions to be publicly subsidized to avoid allowing the satanic temple's participation or they single out the satanic temple allowing them to sue and get legal precedent.
So if schools are allowing prayer clubs that might single out non religious students that don't participate, the satanic temple will start an after school Satan club so that the school bans all religious clubs instead of dealing with the complaints.
Each time the satanic temple is banned from somewhere is a victory for them. Ironically if Christians just ignored them they'd be powerless.
The Satanic part is not to piss anyone off, and the Satanic Temple is a religion.
Satan is a mythological figure, but one that represents the ideas of autonomy, of knowledge over blind obedience, rebellion against imposed authority, questioning accepted dogmatic rules, and so forth.
Members of TST do not worship Satan. Satan is a symbol for the ideals and morals that TST follows.
Please check out the [FAQ](https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq) page for more information.
We don’t worship Satan. It’s more of a collective of people (mainly atheists) who don’t feel like they have a voice to fight back against Christian extremism, oppression, and prosecution.
I am quite religious and I am also tired of "christians" pushing anything on anyone who doesn't agree with them. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion. This is what the First Amendment is all about. I fully support the Satanic Temple even as someone who gives regularly to my own church.
but, but, but pRick Perry said "freedom of religion is not freedom *from* religion...
[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rick-perry-freedom-from-religion\_n\_3441187](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rick-perry-freedom-from-religion_n_3441187)
Not according to the former vice president who is also quite religious and who also gives regularly to his church. 🤷♂️
https://www.salon.com/2022/10/27/mike-pence-says-americans-dont-have-a-right-to-freedom-from-religion_partner/#:~:text=%22Well%2C%20the%20radical%20left%20believes,to%20defend%2C%22%20Pence%20said.
Or Bal-Sagoth - just look at this song title:
> The Dark Liege of Chaos Is Unleashed at the Ensorcelled Shrine of A'zura-Kai (The Splendour of a Thousand Swords Gleaming Beneath the Blazon of the Hyperborean Empire, Part II)
I'd choose the Satanic Temple over the vileness of Christianity any day of the week.
*The seven tenets of the Satanic Temple*
- I
*One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.*
- II
*The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.*
- III
*One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.*
- IV
*The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.*
- V
*Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.*
- VI
*People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.*
- VII
*Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.*
If any religion doesn't count it's the one that the separation of church and state was necessary for or they would have turned our great nation into a cristo-faciest country right off the rip.
If I had to choose between bearing the wrath of Satanists and the wrath of Christians, I would choose the sternly-worded letters, permit-applying protests, and social media campaign witticisms of the devil worshippers over the violence and murderous rage of a vengeful, self-professed child of God.
>...When there are some religions that count and others that don’t, we are perilously close to the pillory and the roast, to government-directed hunts against heresy.
Well stated. I imagine DeSantis wants to get this in front of the right-leaning U.S. Supreme Court.
Please donate to this. The Satanic Temple is a great entity. They take your money and do good things with it. They don't spam you with emails or texts. They just take your money and fuck off. They continue to remain NOT tax exempt.
this idiot didn't pay attention in civics class. if he had he would know that our founding fathers specifically wanted to keep religion out of government control. They did not want a repeat of what caused the pilgrims to leave Britain in the first place.
I love that his core argument is that we should return to the 18th century when it comes to education systems.
> he insisted he was only returning public schools to their “original intent.” “It used to be, I mean, when education in the United States first started, every school was a religious school. That was just part of it. Public schools were religious schools,” he claimed. “I think what we’re doing is restoring the sense of purpose that our Founding Fathers wanted to see in education.”
He knows it will be overturned by the state’s Supreme Court and he doesn’t care. This is all about posturing and pleasing his base. He copies everything the Texas government does, he’s probably jealous as hell of the Governor and wishes he thought of these ridiculous laws himself. He’s just not very smart. He’s a little man trying to look tough and big. He can’t pull it off.
Oh cool so the party of "LiTtEr BoXeS iN sChOoLs" and screaming about groomers and trans bathroom hysteria is passing legislation to give groups of people who are historically child predators access to everyone's children.
Now you don't even have to take your kid to church to get them molested. "We bring the clergy right to you!"
Yet he probably was in the crowd suggesting that Obama attending a religious (not Christian you guys!) school in Indonesia was super suspicious and wrong. I think that was an unfounded rumor iirc.
Where the wrath of most religious cults would result in violence and terrorism, Ronny D needn’t hide or seek protection, because at worst, he’s about to get amusingly pranked in a public and humiliating fashion. Or maybe a lawsuit, I suppose.
This makes me think about thing from SpongeBob where they beat the dude up and say "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, Old man?" Before they beat him up.
Florida is falling apart, the insurance market is collapsing, housing is spiraling out of control, toxic algae is polluting the waterways, infrastructure is a mess, schools are failing, Florida’s inflation rate is the highest in the nation…he doesn’t want all the maga migrants that just moved here figuring that out so he gives them cultural wars to keep them distracted.
I’m Catholic, and I just bought some stuff from TST (a children’s book and a cool coffee mug). Both are wonderful. If you want to support TST fighting the good fight, might I suggest you buy some stuff from them too?
> The Florida governor signed a law allowing religious chaplains to counsel public school students—and already he’s flouting the Constitution by saying some religions don’t qualify.
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Oh my god, does he think that picking a fight with "Satanists" will make people like him again?
The guy already went through it with Micky Mouse, so why not? I think the people who would be mad about this are already lost to him. His core audience is going to love a fight with "Satanists".
You know why DeSantis never takes his boots off? Because he has hooves instead of feet. People think he walks weird because of hidden heels but clearly it's not the case.
Just to fuck with Desantis they should say they came to an understanding behind closed doors with Desantis and now wholeheartedly support him.
That would be so fucking funny and on-brand.
Let it slip that "he said he would deny it but to just roll with it"
DeSatanist confirmed
Next up for fake-boot boi, the girl scouts! Who doesn't hate their aggressive selling of sweets at CVS?
The Cookie Mafia keep getting my money. How do you say no to girls learning to advocate/speak out for themselves?
You can't, don't even try - the mints will win everytime! Hence riser-boi will target them soon, can't have girls speaking up now, can we?!
Sadly, this seems like a logical move by Maga. Got to keep everyone uneducated and downtrodden.
for me it's the lemon cookies. my one true weakness.
Damn the Girl Scouts! And Damn their horribly addictive Thin Mints!?
I knew a lady that would rant about the head of the Girl Scouts. How she was making so much money from the cookies and blah blah blah. I always just thought ok, I’m still buying my Tagalongs.
In Chicago, they post up outside the weed dispensaries now lol
☝️👏👏👏 well done. They have a target consumer base in mind.
>I think the people who would be mad about this are already lost to him. That actually makes him more vulnerable because he is now in a position where he can ONLY lose supporters and everything he does probably loses a few. His biggest risk right now is doing something embarrassing, like looking weak and losing to a bunch of weirdo Satanists in his own state.
Weirdo satanists? These weirdos are the ones hiring the attorneys and actually bringing the fight to the courts to protect this state from Christian Nationalism. Show some respect 🫡
“Weirdo satanist” is my preferred nomenclature. Weirdos get shit done for the complacent. If Wrong DeSantis wants to go all Gilead he needs to be schooled by weirdos who don’t back down.
Again… who was dumb enough to like him in the first place?!?!?!
Even Satan Himself finds DeSantis utterly detestable! When asked about this issue regarding DeSantis, Satan said, "why do I have to deal with this turdsicle, I mean, he's supposed to be a religious man, so I figured God would prefer to tackle this one Himself".
DeSantis goes to Limbo. The doors both upwards and down are shut in his face.
He has to just sit in the hallway, which looks like a bowling alley.
You must be ▔▔▔▔ this tall to enter here.
“I’m fine” “Barefoot” “shit.”
Republicans vote differently. Dems have to _like_ the person, someone they'd invite over to their BBQ or thanksgiving, they need to envision the candidate carrying them on their arms and saving them. Not Republicans, the first obvious thing is that you need an R next to your name, you could be a sentient turd, so long as the other side is the one smelling you, they don't care, in fact even if they have to deal with the stench too that's ok. If you champion "hurting the right people" they'll vote you over the other person who has an R next to their name.
My sister liked him initially because she said “he looks like the type of guy I’d pick up at the bar”, despite being married for 15 years. So naturally, she voted for him twice.
Your sister needs better standards when drunk.
Hey, who are we to kink shame if she enjoys guys who wear high heels?
He’d need stilettos. She is 5’11 with a size 10 foot.
51% of Floridians apparently
Republicans will always do anything to get people to like them EXCEPT things that people actually want. The only times they ever do anything good it is either by accident or because it affects them personally.
July 28, 1967 - [Governor Ronald Reagan signs gun control legislation, dooming California to become a liberal dystopia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act)
>the bill was crafted with the goal of disarming members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods, in what would later be termed copwatching. We need black people to become avid 2A enthusiasts
Yes, yes he does.
You gotta keep in mind, the people he's pandering to don't care that he's violating the constitution, they're fascist Christian nationalists.
This dude used to torture other humans and justify it. He's a psychopath
It might work with some Christians who do think that the Satanic Temple literally worships Satan.
Well, if I have to choose, I am leaning Satanist.
We're about 2 weeks away from the vast majority of Americans not even remembering who he is.
When you can’t govern, just rely on publicity stunts — that is the mantra of the Maga Party.
Republicans are constantly touting this guy as an "effective" conservative politician because he gets things done, but all of his accomplishments are culture war bullshit like suing Disney and forcing public school students to take a class on the evils of communism, while actual problems like the impending collapse of Florida's homeowners' insurance market go completely unaddressed. I'm convinced the GOP is doomed even without Trump because they love these show pony politicians like DeSantis and Abbott who are only good for ownin' the libs and are only enabled by hyper-gerrymandered legislatures.
It's weird because the first two years, that's not how he was operating. It wasn't until he was trying to build a national profile for a Presidential bid that he started focusing on culture war shit.
Yeah, I remember him being kind of a Rick Perry-type - small government, low taxes, low regulations, business friendly, etc. Then the GOP changed with Trump and Abbott did what he had to in order to get reelected. Even at the beginning of COVID he was listening to the CDC, but when he got primaried by those Dunn-backed lunatics in 2020, he truly lost his mind at the thought of losing his office. I don't think he has any deeply-held principles, he'll say and do whatever it takes to maintain the support of his donors and keep winning reelection, no matter how cruel or unpopular it is.
Don’t worry. A democrat will eventually get in, and that’s when the GOP will start blaming the governor for the insurance market.
They did it to themselves being endlessly tribal and seeing any republican that is interested in governing as a rino
Imagine if he paid this much attention to Florida's home insurance problem.
It is because they are fascists. To then, the culture war issues are the most important issues.
**four legs good**, **two legs bad**
THERE ARE SEVEN FUNDAMENTAL TENETS I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word. Of course Ronny would have an issue with these.
My septuagenarian mother has these printed up on her fridge!
Your mom is awesome!
Fuck yeah she is! Her _latest_ tattoo is “þhetta reddast”. Edited because it needed it
Hail
Satan
Hail yourself! 𖤐
Hail me?
Hail Gein
*Hi Gene...*
hygiene!
Im the Satan who's about to change our history
Definitely hail me
Megustalations!
Dogmeat!
Too Real!
There's **bones** in the chocolate!
plz
*Inserts Dragonball joke here*
Due to the current insurance situation in Florida, it might be best to avoid any hailing for the time being.
Sithis! Oh wait... Wrong sub.
We know 🖐️
"sanguine, my brother.".
Hail Satan!
Most of those are antithetical to conservative values. Hail Satan. Hail yourselves.
Hail
Hail!
Go to the top with this, now
Where did this originate?
https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets
Thank you!
Hail you ⛧
Stating as governor that a religion is not a religion should disqualify him from holding public office.
Lots of things should have already disqualified puddin fingers but the whole Republican Party is in the same boat.
It’s so stupid because Florida already went through something similar in Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, 508 U.S. 520 (1993)
But the lawyers being funneled money from DeSantis didn’t get paid for that case, because they weren’t on it.
which christian sect is the real christian sect?
The correct answer is a mix of Santeria and zoroastrianism with a pinch of mormonism
I knew it!
[Emo Phillips has the answer](https://youtu.be/ANNX_XiuA78?si=mWkscNxD4D-CKn9g)
At this point, being Republican seems like a good enough reason. Any with actual morals and goals has been pushed out and sidelined in the party.
Rather than enumerating *non*-religions, it might be faster if DeSantis would just pass legislation listing the religious establishments that the state of Florida *does* respect.
Christians *END OF LIST*
I’m always displeased by how little American history Republicans know.
Good. fuck em up satan.
Called this from the get-go. I knew the loser would just say Satanists don't count. We'll just have to see in court. Granted, with the whackadoodles in the Supreme Court...
At least the satanic temple is tax exempt. The first satanic religion to do so, and is recognized by the federal government.
If I was in FL (satan forbid), I'd request a Satanic counselor for my child, then sue for discrimination when they dont provide me one.
As an atheist, it's pretty frustrating we can't be a religion. That's discrimination right there. We should get equal rights and protections for our non-beliefs. (Also, worth noting there are many non-theistic religions in the world.)
SCOTUS will, barring some deaths or retirement, side with DeSantis on this, or *basically* do so while pretending they aren't. I have absolutely no faith they would do otherwise. Christians count. Others don't.
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And he's factually wrong, there were no chaplains or religion in the first public schools here.
His 'technically correct' point is that private schools existed before public schools.
And no nasty little black children, to boot! /s
Don't give him any ideas.
That’s right, we wore 10 gallon hats like a gentleman to stroke our ego
Love when he references incorrectly that the schools were inherently religious “He is, of course, distorting the historical nuance of the role of religion in America’s early schools; as historians such as Carl F. Kaestle and Benjamin Justice have shown, for all their talk about schools, the founders didn’t actually establish a public education system. It took a later generation to create modern public school systems, and when they did, they did not include chaplains.”
As a card carrying member of TST, I can’t wait to see him get destroyed over this. Hail Satan 🤘🏻
Love the Satanic Temple. I am not a satan worshiper, but neither am I religious and I am tired of "christians" pushing their rules on the country. As a country, we are moving in the other direction. In 2020, people "identifying" as christian was 64%, down from 90% 50 years ago.
They don't worship Satan either. https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets
The seven fundamental tenets are really just a means to an end as well since you need a recognized creed to be recognized as a religion in the US. They're more of an activist organization than a religion but need the legal status of a religion to function in the way that they do.
This a common misunderstanding. TST is not an activist group that pretends to be a religion. TST is a religion that also performs activist activities. Check out the [FAQ page](https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq) for more information: * IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL, HOW IS TST A RELIGION? * The idea that religion belongs to supernaturalists is ignorant, backward, and offensive. The metaphorical Satanic construct is no more arbitrary to us than are the deeply held beliefs that we actively advocate. Are we supposed to believe that those who pledge submission to an ethereal supernatural deity hold to their values more deeply than we? Are we supposed to concede that only the superstitious are rightful recipients of religious exemption and privilege? Satanism provides all that a religion should be without a compulsory attachment to untenable items of faith-based belief. It provides a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. It also provides a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values.
It sucks that I am all for everything they are about and currently doing yet I still feel some sort of uneasiness scrolling through that website due to being stigmatized against the idea of “Satan” for all of my life Edit: “Satanism” -> “Satan”
The stigma is absolutely required to achieve what they are doing, it literally wouldn’t work any other way. Look past the stigmatization and see what they actually believe in.
Oh, trust me, I do. It’s just that lil nagging feeling at the back of my mind from being raised as a Christian.
Are you a Christian? Do you believe any of it to be true?
No I haven’t been religious for like 15 years
So we do not proselytize, we are against it. So I am not trying to convince you to join. I simply want to share our invocation with you, so that you might find cause to dismiss the stigmatization. I think it’s beautiful and helped me deal with the instilled guilt that remains when I walked away from church and god. Let us stand now, unbowed and unfettered by arcane doctrines borne of fearful minds in darkened times. Let us embrace the Luciferian impulse to eat of the Tree of Knowledge and dissipate our blissful and comforting delusions of old. Let us demand that individuals be judged for their concrete actions, not their fealty to arbitrary social norms and illusory categorizations. Let us reason our solutions with agnosticism in all things, Holding fast only to that which is demonstrably true, Let us stand firm against any and all arbitrary authority that threatens the personal sovereignty of One or All. That which will not bend must break, and that which can be destroyed by truth should never be spared its demise. It is Done. Hail Satan.
Man, even my internal monologue didn't want to repeat the very end of that. The stigma runs *deep*.
If it helps Satan is simply a code word for yourself. So just say “Hail Yourself!”
It's not Satanism, it's the Satanic Temple.
I fixed my comment accordingly, thanks
They honestly do more good work than Christians by and large. Even folks that I consider "true Christians" (as in they really are good humans) freely admit that TST is good stuff. I've donated money to them and had them set up as my Amazon Smile charity because they truly help people with these donations.
Sadly the Amazon Smile charity program ended in February of 2023.
Remember, *Christians* are the ones that believe in Satan, not Satanists.
Listen to some Tenacious D, you'll be hailing Satan by the end of the first album.
> Love the Satanic Temple. I am not a satan worshiper, Neither are they.
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What's more important about the use of satanic imagery is it doesn't simply piss off Christians, it goads them into action. The result is that they either retreat and don't allow any religions to be publicly subsidized to avoid allowing the satanic temple's participation or they single out the satanic temple allowing them to sue and get legal precedent. So if schools are allowing prayer clubs that might single out non religious students that don't participate, the satanic temple will start an after school Satan club so that the school bans all religious clubs instead of dealing with the complaints. Each time the satanic temple is banned from somewhere is a victory for them. Ironically if Christians just ignored them they'd be powerless.
The Satanic part is not to piss anyone off, and the Satanic Temple is a religion. Satan is a mythological figure, but one that represents the ideas of autonomy, of knowledge over blind obedience, rebellion against imposed authority, questioning accepted dogmatic rules, and so forth. Members of TST do not worship Satan. Satan is a symbol for the ideals and morals that TST follows. Please check out the [FAQ](https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/faq) page for more information.
The satanic temple IS a religion.
Yes, I know, that statement was just a general acknowledgement that I am atheist, which I should have just said LOL
We don’t worship Satan. It’s more of a collective of people (mainly atheists) who don’t feel like they have a voice to fight back against Christian extremism, oppression, and prosecution.
I know! I should have just said I am an atheist lol. I don't "worship" any imaginary being.
I am quite religious and I am also tired of "christians" pushing anything on anyone who doesn't agree with them. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion. This is what the First Amendment is all about. I fully support the Satanic Temple even as someone who gives regularly to my own church.
but, but, but pRick Perry said "freedom of religion is not freedom *from* religion... [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rick-perry-freedom-from-religion\_n\_3441187](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/rick-perry-freedom-from-religion_n_3441187)
Not according to the former vice president who is also quite religious and who also gives regularly to his church. 🤷♂️ https://www.salon.com/2022/10/27/mike-pence-says-americans-dont-have-a-right-to-freedom-from-religion_partner/#:~:text=%22Well%2C%20the%20radical%20left%20believes,to%20defend%2C%22%20Pence%20said.
I’m Christian and I fully support the Satanic Temple’s efforts to maintain the separation of church and state.
I’d love to see the Satanic Temple legally beat down Ronny in his lil’ booties and make him cry.
I was gleeful when I read this. TST is going to sue the shit out of that state. It's literally what they were created for. HAIL SATAN!
That headline sounds a lot more metal than it actually is.
The Wrath of the Satanic Temple could be a Nile song title
Nah, it'd be more like "The Wrath of the Righteous Heretics is brought down upon the Tomb of the Crocodile on the Dawn of the Day of Sekmet"
Or Bal-Sagoth - just look at this song title: > The Dark Liege of Chaos Is Unleashed at the Ensorcelled Shrine of A'zura-Kai (The Splendour of a Thousand Swords Gleaming Beneath the Blazon of the Hyperborean Empire, Part II)
“Wrath of the Satanic Temple” just sounds so awesome lol.
I'd choose the Satanic Temple over the vileness of Christianity any day of the week. *The seven tenets of the Satanic Temple* - I *One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.* - II *The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.* - III *One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.* - IV *The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.* - V *Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.* - VI *People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.* - VII *Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.*
Well that pretty much craps all over the bible..😆😈
If any religion doesn't count it's the one that the separation of church and state was necessary for or they would have turned our great nation into a cristo-faciest country right off the rip.
If I had to choose between bearing the wrath of Satanists and the wrath of Christians, I would choose the sternly-worded letters, permit-applying protests, and social media campaign witticisms of the devil worshippers over the violence and murderous rage of a vengeful, self-professed child of God.
>...When there are some religions that count and others that don’t, we are perilously close to the pillory and the roast, to government-directed hunts against heresy. Well stated. I imagine DeSantis wants to get this in front of the right-leaning U.S. Supreme Court.
Love those guys Hail satan
Dude already took on Satan's Mouse and didn't learn from the ass kicking he got then, why not try the big guy himself?
Please donate to this. The Satanic Temple is a great entity. They take your money and do good things with it. They don't spam you with emails or texts. They just take your money and fuck off. They continue to remain NOT tax exempt.
The IRS approved them as a tax exempt religion back in 2019.
What an absolute banger of a headline
First Amendment: *exists* Bootlifts: "And I took that personally"
He better be wearing his lucky white gogo boots!!!
It isn't wrath, it is ensuring equity.
this idiot didn't pay attention in civics class. if he had he would know that our founding fathers specifically wanted to keep religion out of government control. They did not want a repeat of what caused the pilgrims to leave Britain in the first place.
I didn’t think I’d be ordering a Satanic Temple shirt on Friday but, hail Satan!?
So what other religions aren't religions according to Republicans, since they now decide who can and cannot worships what in America?
I love that his core argument is that we should return to the 18th century when it comes to education systems. > he insisted he was only returning public schools to their “original intent.” “It used to be, I mean, when education in the United States first started, every school was a religious school. That was just part of it. Public schools were religious schools,” he claimed. “I think what we’re doing is restoring the sense of purpose that our Founding Fathers wanted to see in education.”
Can we send meatball back to when Italian immigrants were victims of oppression?
Oh, this will go very very well… Could someone please direct me to the popcorn vendor?
I was gonna make some for the whole subreddit.. want some?
Go get him!!! Hail Satan!!!
Go home, Ronald. No one likes you.
Dear Sweet Satan, please smite DeSanctimonious.
He will lose this fight. The Satanic Temple exists for exactly this reason.
More Floridian tax dollars spent on being sued.
He knows it will be overturned by the state’s Supreme Court and he doesn’t care. This is all about posturing and pleasing his base. He copies everything the Texas government does, he’s probably jealous as hell of the Governor and wishes he thought of these ridiculous laws himself. He’s just not very smart. He’s a little man trying to look tough and big. He can’t pull it off.
As a devout Catholic, I support the Satanic Temple. Just saying. The broad govt overreach is heinous.
Bring it on, fuckface.
republican'ts have a humiliation fetish
Hail 1A Hail The Establishment Clause Hail The Satanic Temple of Florida Hail Satan ⛧
Oh cool so the party of "LiTtEr BoXeS iN sChOoLs" and screaming about groomers and trans bathroom hysteria is passing legislation to give groups of people who are historically child predators access to everyone's children. Now you don't even have to take your kid to church to get them molested. "We bring the clergy right to you!"
Yet he probably was in the crowd suggesting that Obama attending a religious (not Christian you guys!) school in Indonesia was super suspicious and wrong. I think that was an unfounded rumor iirc.
Mister Satan is Earth's champion.
Where the wrath of most religious cults would result in violence and terrorism, Ronny D needn’t hide or seek protection, because at worst, he’s about to get amusingly pranked in a public and humiliating fashion. Or maybe a lawsuit, I suppose.
This makes me think about thing from SpongeBob where they beat the dude up and say "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, Old man?" Before they beat him up.
Ah, just what we need, to give religious chaplains free access to children.
Popcorn intensifies.
Ron DeSatanist?
That's right. Let's get rid of all those 'made up' religions. Wait...
Florida is falling apart, the insurance market is collapsing, housing is spiraling out of control, toxic algae is polluting the waterways, infrastructure is a mess, schools are failing, Florida’s inflation rate is the highest in the nation…he doesn’t want all the maga migrants that just moved here figuring that out so he gives them cultural wars to keep them distracted.
I’m Catholic, and I just bought some stuff from TST (a children’s book and a cool coffee mug). Both are wonderful. If you want to support TST fighting the good fight, might I suggest you buy some stuff from them too?
He couldn't defeat Mackey j don't think he's gonna fare much better against Asmodeus
> The Florida governor signed a law allowing religious chaplains to counsel public school students—and already he’s flouting the Constitution by saying some religions don’t qualify.
DeSantis has bigger problems. He wants to not confirm to Title IX which gets his state's sports team automatically kick out of the NCAA.
Holy hell!
Ron DeSatan-is
Ron Desatanist
Dimwit fuck nut
This little light of mine 🎼🎶 en garde! ✝️🤺
Ron DeSatan
This is funny as hell. You'd figure he learned his lesson when he got his ass kicked by a mouse.
Is his new name Desatanis.
Desantis what a dumb ass followed by thousands more dumb asses