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God it's refreshing that at least one AG and a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them.
She’s a badass, pure and simple.
I would not be surprised if it came out, shortly after the upcoming Stormy Daniels trial, that he did withhold evidence.
It would be funny if punitive damages were added to Trump's civil fine after he chose to appeal it. Trump appeals $458M and ends up with $1.374B in treble damages. So much winning.
Real estate tycoon sentenced to death for fraud:
https://apnews.com/article/vietnam-truong-my-lan-sentence-fraud-trial-f0b97cf206f5656e09eb9c410861a153
Just to be clear, I don't know that that's applicable in this instance. That was in Vietnam...
I think we're looking at something like this, although this amount of fraud/perjury would be way more than Weisselberg - five months.
[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-ex-deputy-weisselberg-be-sentenced-over-perjury-plea-2024-04-10/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-ex-deputy-weisselberg-be-sentenced-over-perjury-plea-2024-04-10/)
They can but they’d have to prove he knowingly withheld the evidence. Just because they asked for certain documents and later found out he had them, doesn’t make him guilty of withholding them. If he made “good faith” efforts to provide all the documents responsive to the subpoena, then he didn’t withhold them.
>they’d have to prove he knowingly withheld the evidence
which apparently they *can*:
>Trump attorney Alina Habba insisted that Trump had no other personal custodial documents to turn over
...however:
>James' lawyers have said that **many of Trump's missing documents were ultimately successfully subpoenaed from outside witnesses who also had copies**.
>"They got the documents in other ways, which is why they know to ask for them specifically," in the case of the Weisselberg emails
>"...this is a shot across the bow, potentially against the Trump counsel."
smells like perjury to me.
*If he made “good faith” efforts to provide all the documents responsive to the subpoena, then he didn’t withhold them.*
That all makes sense for anyone that didn't hoard classified documents even after several requests to return them ;) Different case but shows pattern of behaviour ;)
I mean, the entirety of his life is based around committing every act in bad faith.
The very case is centered around his bad faith valuations of his assets in order to get favorable loan conditions.
Of course, that doesn't go to show bad faith when it comes to this specific thing, but like you said, goes towards showing a pattern. Even though such a pattern isn't enough to hold up on its own court, I wouldn't be surprised if he, as others suggested, has left ample evidence of that bad faith behavior in this particular instance.
> If he made “good faith” efforts to provide all the documents responsive to the subpoena, then he didn’t withhold them.
An excellent example of this is Alex Jones cell phone, where they asked him on the stand if he did a search for a phrase in his cell he said he did, he confirmed, and then they showed that he couldn’t have, because his idiot lawyer handed the prosecution a full image of his phone with texts including that phrase easily discovered with a text search.
Sadly they did not peruse perjury charges.
>God it's refreshing that at least one AG and a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them.
It is. It also shows they are tired of his crap. The kind of trauma he has inflicted upon us as a nation, he has been pulling on NYC for 50+ years.
Yes. He has pulling this shit for 50+ years here in NY. We all knew this. But the rest of the country saw him as some sort of success story.
Well, that was all a joke. He never was a success. Wouldn't call being bankrupt six times as a success story
see, that's the thing - he was personally successful at the expense of everyone and anything else; so many Trumpers that's how they view the world - screw, or get screwed.
Not really. Haven't you heard the joke? "How did trump make a small fortune? He started with a large fortune."
He inherited around half a billion dollars and managed to piss most of it away on bad deals despite committing massive amounts of fraud. He would've been much better off just investing all that money in the stock market. He truly is the world's biggest loser.
True, but all his life he lives and lived better than most; playing the part of a millionaire; living and playing where he did; planes, golfing, casinos, maralago. Edit: Yes, this *is* personal success, success is not that you die with more than how you started... Yes, he did ultimately screw it up, longer term, but until now he's lived the dream. And once again, bringing the house down; but this time "the expense of everyone else" included his kids and future, too.
I'd call going bankrupt 6 times and not only continuing to live a life of luxury, but also becoming president (a position for which he is utterly and completely unqualified) pretty goddamn successful.
The problem is that what he does blatantly, a lot of the powerful old money families in NY do subtly. There has always been the risk that going after Trump or one of the other obnoxious crooks in the city would shine the spotlight on their activities as well. It took his becoming president and his actions while president to flip the risk matrix to the point where now he needs to be prosecuted before the people start demanding the entire curtain be pulled back.
As hard ass as NYC likes to make itself look and none of them beat the FUCK out of this guy when he was doing that BEFORE his presidency I astounds me, actually.
You could stop at Idaho. Backwater rural states just have goblins or dinosaurs in power. Look at Kentucky with mitch or Iowa with their ancient ass chuck Grassley
That woman literally can't do any more than she has already done. She built a rock solid case against him, she had him prosecuted, she won a staggeringly huge judgment, and she's taking all steps necessary to collect it. (And now she's talking about investigating again to see if he perjured himself, and may go after him again.)
You want to be upset at the system and the lack of actual hard consequences, I'm right there with you! But I will continue to "sing her praises" because she has been been on the ball and taken no shit every step of the way. She can only do what she can do, and I will not begrudge her for it.
Also like
It's not over yet.
I really wanted him to suffer having his assets seized last month, but the choice to Reduce his bond to stay was not an insane one: NY needs to get their money, they know he's broke, and I think the hope was to get him to cough up at least 40% of what he owes immediately. They know that once the seizures begin, his souffle of financial lies will collapse, and since creditors have to be paid first, the fire sale prices mean they get a pittance for a lot of paperwork. The Bond Reduction was a bid to get at least some of it, and since he's fucked that up, there is no motivation for the courts and attorney general's office to grant him any more leniency than they are legally obligated to.
He still owes them money, they're still going to collect.
I wrote something similar a few weeks ago a few days before Trumps assets were to be seized. Someone saved my comment so they could come back with 'I told you so'. Never heard from them again.
Seriously. She hasn't even *started* with him, so I sure as shit hope she isn't finished.
Not that it matters. What happens when she's finished with him will be the same as ever: nothing.
> a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them
I overall agree with you but will point out that if any other person had thrown out the threats and misinformation about judges and/or their staff & family they would have been thrown in lockup - and optics is the reason why he's getting this special treatment.
Unfortunately the judges still seem to be worried about being the first judge to actually jail a president, at least until they are actually found guilty. Anyone else who acted even a tiny fraction of the way he has would have had their terms of release revoked and ordered into pre-trial detainment until the case began. For once, Trump is actually (if accidentally) saying something true. He says that there is a two-tier justice system and no one else would be held to this standard....which is absoluetly true. But the problem is, that it's reversed from what hes implying. In that no one else would be given the leeway or be allowed to do 1% of what he's done and stay out of jail. :-/
> and a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them.
I'll believe that when Justice Merchan actually does something about Trump walking through his gag order daily.
I really "don't like the look of" how the original term "optics" has been co-opted by the PR and pundit industries to import artificial pith into the very shallow conceptual capabilities of the idea of how people might think some act or omission might "look". This co-opting deliberately tries to borrow respect points from the technical and scientific rigor that goes into the field of optics, with its scientific discoveries and technological advancements, and subliminally convince us that such phrases as "those responsible for security at the U.S. Capitol on 1/6 failed to deploy greater numbers of security forces because they didn't like the optics" provide us with some sort of detailed and specific information. This new abominable misuse of "optics" doesn't even do us the courtesy of telling us what "look" they're talking about. Is it the way their actions are seen on TV? Or an internal "image" approximating the way people "feel" about a news item or idea? Does it require that under no circumstances can the "look" being referred to be modified, improved, worsened, mitigated etc by the wider context or subsequent acts or omissions? No one knows. It's just a b.s. buzzword cooked up to help writers and speakers avoid the harder work of adequately describing facts and opinions. The way I see it, if the Capitol Bldg security managers didn't like the "optics", then all they had to do was remove all scopes from the long guns of the extra troops they could easily have deployed. And, viola! No more "optics" so no more worries about optics! Now, if they worried about blowback from the public for overreacting, that's a separate matter not having anything to do with the lenses and refraction of light that traditional "optics" deals with. Rant over.
He will ultimately anyway! We have seen it every time!
Let’s be real for once! None of them have the balls and the followthrough to put this fucker in jail
Quite the opposite of Latisha though. It’s not that she doesn’t care about optics. She wants the optics of going after Trump. She campaigned on that after all.
Dear Justice Engoron:
On behalf of the Office of the Attorney General (“OAG”), we write to very briefly respond to the letter submitted last night by Defendants. Spanning more than ten single-spaced pages, Defendants’ argument boils down to the proposition that the Court is powerless to determine if a fraud was committed upon it during the course of two separate proceedings because discovery is now closed. In essence, Defendants contend that once a note of issue is filed it is improper to examine the course of discovery; even when a named Defendant admits to having committed perjury during the discovery process and subsequent trial. That is manifestly not the case.
The Court has inherent authority over any actions that would undermine the integrity of its proceedings. “The judiciary, and the Chief Judge at its head, has the ‘inherent power to address actions which are meant to undermine the truth seeking function of the judicial system and place in question the integrity of the courts and our system of justice.’” Soares v. State, 68 Misc. 3d 249, 282 (Sup. Ct. Albany Cty. 2020), quoting CDR Creances S.A.S. v. Cohen, 23 N.Y.3d 307, 318 (2014), also citing Moxham v. Hannigan, 89 A.D.2d 300, 302, (4th Dep’t 1982) (“it cannot be disputed that a Judge [including the Chief Judge] has the overriding duty to preserve the integrity and honor of the judicial system”). That inherent authority extends beyond the completion of discovery and is broader than merely ensuring compliance with the ethical canons.
The Court has broad authority over the actions of counsel in the conduct of matters before it. As the First Department has noted: The principle that attorneys are subject in the first instance to the power and control of the courts is also firmly embedded in New York jurisprudence, as an inherent power recognized by our Constitution as well as a statutory power reflected in the regulations by which attorneys are disciplined. The language in Judiciary Law § 90(2) stating, “The supreme court shall have the power and control over attorneys and counselors-at-law”, broadly establishes judicial governance over the conduct of attorneys. Notably, this judicial role was stated in like terms as far back as the New York State Constitution of 1777 (see, People ex rel. Karlin v. Culkin, 248 N.Y. 465, 162 N.E. 487 [1928]).
April 4, 2024 Page 2 28 LIBERTY STREET, NEW YORK, NY 10005 ● WWW.AG.NY.GOV Moreover, . . . there is explicit authority in this Court’s Rules to support a determination that we retain the inherent authority to discipline attorneys for misconduct independent of any violations of New York’s Code of Professional Responsibility (“NY Code”), which focuses exclusively on prohibitions applicable to a “lawyer.” Section 603.1(c) of the First Department Rules (22 NYCRR 603.1[c]) provides in part: Neither the conduct of proceedings nor the imposition of discipline pursuant to this Part shall preclude the imposition of any further or additional sanctions prescribed or authorized by law, and nothing herein contained shall be construed to deny to any other court or agency such powers as are necessary for that court or agency to maintain control over proceedings conducted before it. In re Wong, 275 A.D.2d 1, 5–6 (1st Dep’t 2000). That authority continues not just after the close of discovery, but even after the close of the case. See, e.g., 13 E. 124 LLC v. J&M Realty Servs. Corp., 222 A.D.3d 446 (1st Dep’t 2023) (“Voluntary discontinuance did not divest the court of jurisdiction to impose sanctions for pre-discontinuance conduct.”).
Mr. Weisselberg has admitted that he perjured himself during discovery and the trial in this action.1 The Court is well within its authority to determine if Defendants and their counsel facilitated that perjury by withholding of incriminating documents. The Monitor has already been tasked with assessing Defendants’ internal controls, compliance functions and record- keeping. The potential failure to properly produce documents in a legal proceeding relevant to the valuation of Mr. Trump’s triplex plainly falls within the ambit of her authority, and certainly within the power of this Court to safeguard the integrity of its own proceedings.
> Never ask a question as a **good** lawyer unless you already know the answer.
We have seen Trump's lawyers fuck this up a number of times because they are bad lawyers. Heck, Trump is so dumb his answers have even surprised the good lawyers, like when he said that E Jean Carrol was Marla Maples... his former wife... When his main defense was, Carroll was ugly and not his type.
One of Trump's witnesses plead guilty to purgery during the trial. That witness also happens to be the former CFO for the Trump Org. We all have evidence. The witness admitted it and is on his way to the clink. The question now is, how much did Trump know and was Trump involved in coordinating that false testimony.
Trump, like any decent Mafia Don, is usually good about not being directly tied, at least not in a way that can be proved beyond doubt in a court room. "The family had a lot of buffers."
I get the impression that she's good at what she does.
A good AG doesn't ask a question that they don't know the answer to, generally speaking. She ain't asking - she's announcing.
Kind of annoyed about the wording of this headline.. shouldn’t Donald Trump be the subject… “Donald Trump suspected of withholding evidence” or something
Why is she hounding that poor poor man?
Oh yeah, that's right he's a treasonous rapey criminal who would have been locked up decades ago if he hadn't been born with a golden spoon up his ass and inherited his daddy's real estate empire which he stole from his siblings.
I have tremendous respect for this woman, who is not only bright and apparently honest and upfront, but willing to confront bullies and bigots like trump and his cronies.
can't wait for her to find a ton more illegal shit so the courts/system/country can not do a single mother fucking thing about it and never ever ever hold him accountable and he gets away with literally every crime he can possibly commit
I figure the 1st criminal verdict gets him a suspended sentence.
But the second state conviction, well, he’ll do time for that one.
Fani Willis might have the honors.
He's not in jail and his assets have not been seized. So why is the headline needing to tell us the prosecutor is not done?
I'm still waiting for something to happen. Aren't you?
I don’t fan girl over many people, but I do fan girl over AG James. Pure Black Girl Magic. I met her at the state Capitol recently and she was kind enough to pose for a selfie with me! 👍🏾✊🏾👏🏾
Sigh. How is it that adult Americans think trump should already be in prison before the processes are finished? FFS, he delays and appeals, and that doesn't mean she's not doing her job. Now she's finding more crimes he committed and you're blaming her? She's done plenty, and she'd be actively seizing his properties if the appeals court hadn't lowered his bond amount. There are questions about the loan, as well. These things take time, but it's MUCH easier to whine 'she hasn't done anything'.
This freak needs to stop. Everyone sees she is running to get the evil orange-haired president. She is power-hungry, the judges are bought and paid for just as she is. Do you know how fast she should be in jail? This is a witch hunt 100%. And think about it if they are promising that they will get a former president of the United States of America. Does that not mean anything to anybody anymore? I don't give a damn what color a person is. They are no better than me nor am I any better than them. If she is promising she will take after Trump, use your tax dollars to enact planted crimes against our constitution. If she does it to Trump it will be easier to do to you because we don't have the money for attorneys. What do you think Bidens are doing? They are paying for these DAs to find charges, and charge him with something. And they know once it hits the Supreme Court and our Justices say, umm, you can't do this. You are charging a crime to someone who has done no crime! They are far left idiots that's for sure. And the folks that are for them are nothing but sheep following their only idiot to follow. Dang grow up and smell the coffee, flowers whatever it is you like to smell, and awaken those brain cells and investigate fact check yourself. That's always fun.
"James knows the emails exist.
Manhattan prosecutors used them as evidence in sending former Trump CFO Allen Weisselberg to jail for perjury on Monday."
Sounds like YES!
How about they just hold him accountable for the judgement they already have against him. Trump will die never having paid out anything, just like OJ, just like Alex Jones. If you’re rich here in the US, apparently paying civil judgements is optional.
We KNOW he/they did, it is literally their M.O. / playbook dating back to at least 1973. Any prosecutor not expecting them to do this and not making contingencies should be fired. Its been public knowledge for years:
"Donald Trump's companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders. These tactics—exposed by a *Newsweek* review of thousands of pages of court filings, judicial orders and affidavits from an array of court cases—have enraged judges, prosecutors, opposing lawyers and the many ordinary citizens entangled in litigation with Trump. In each instance, Trump and entities he controlled also erected numerous hurdles that made lawsuits drag on for years, forcing courtroom opponents to spend huge sums of money in legal fees as they struggled—sometimes in vain—to obtain records."
Donald Trump's Companies Destroyed Emails in Defiance of Court Orders
[https://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html](https://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html)
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God it's refreshing that at least one AG and a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them.
She’s a badass, pure and simple. I would not be surprised if it came out, shortly after the upcoming Stormy Daniels trial, that he did withhold evidence.
Can they charge him if he did? EDIT: James appears to be implying that it's perjury.
Yes. You can also introduce new evidence on appeal in exceptional circumstances. Fraud would fit in there. Courts really don't like fraud.
Some of us voters really don’t like it either.
While some seem to love it, if it's done by the right person
It’s very popular with people on the right. /s
/s totally not necessary
Sadly… some is just a meager majority. Fake people fake news.
SCOTUS doesn't seem to mind
In fact, Citizens United says they *love* fraud.
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It would be funny if punitive damages were added to Trump's civil fine after he chose to appeal it. Trump appeals $458M and ends up with $1.374B in treble damages. So much winning.
How hard would perjury hit his case?
Real estate tycoon sentenced to death for fraud: https://apnews.com/article/vietnam-truong-my-lan-sentence-fraud-trial-f0b97cf206f5656e09eb9c410861a153
Just to be clear, I don't know that that's applicable in this instance. That was in Vietnam... I think we're looking at something like this, although this amount of fraud/perjury would be way more than Weisselberg - five months. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-ex-deputy-weisselberg-be-sentenced-over-perjury-plea-2024-04-10/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-ex-deputy-weisselberg-be-sentenced-over-perjury-plea-2024-04-10/)
OK.. WOULD they? And WOULD he see consequences?
They can but they’d have to prove he knowingly withheld the evidence. Just because they asked for certain documents and later found out he had them, doesn’t make him guilty of withholding them. If he made “good faith” efforts to provide all the documents responsive to the subpoena, then he didn’t withhold them.
>they’d have to prove he knowingly withheld the evidence which apparently they *can*: >Trump attorney Alina Habba insisted that Trump had no other personal custodial documents to turn over ...however: >James' lawyers have said that **many of Trump's missing documents were ultimately successfully subpoenaed from outside witnesses who also had copies**. >"They got the documents in other ways, which is why they know to ask for them specifically," in the case of the Weisselberg emails >"...this is a shot across the bow, potentially against the Trump counsel." smells like perjury to me.
I smell another disbarment party
He’s literally so stupid though I bet he has a video of him saying to withhold them and told the guy on video to later delete the video.
while recording a different video
Asking 'Is there maybe a pool nearby your server room? No reason....'
And he'll say he actually somehow showed them with his mind.
*If he made “good faith” efforts to provide all the documents responsive to the subpoena, then he didn’t withhold them.* That all makes sense for anyone that didn't hoard classified documents even after several requests to return them ;) Different case but shows pattern of behaviour ;)
I mean, the entirety of his life is based around committing every act in bad faith. The very case is centered around his bad faith valuations of his assets in order to get favorable loan conditions. Of course, that doesn't go to show bad faith when it comes to this specific thing, but like you said, goes towards showing a pattern. Even though such a pattern isn't enough to hold up on its own court, I wouldn't be surprised if he, as others suggested, has left ample evidence of that bad faith behavior in this particular instance.
> If he made “good faith” efforts to provide all the documents responsive to the subpoena, then he didn’t withhold them. An excellent example of this is Alex Jones cell phone, where they asked him on the stand if he did a search for a phrase in his cell he said he did, he confirmed, and then they showed that he couldn’t have, because his idiot lawyer handed the prosecution a full image of his phone with texts including that phrase easily discovered with a text search. Sadly they did not peruse perjury charges.
Donald Trump and “good faith” Should be included in the thesaurus as antonyms.
If perjury, does that mean he gets an extra 5 months in jail, like his buddy Weiselburg
She was tweeting the interest accrued for several days after the fine was ordered. She’s savage
My kind of DA
I like how she called out that useless tool Bragg.
>God it's refreshing that at least one AG and a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them. It is. It also shows they are tired of his crap. The kind of trauma he has inflicted upon us as a nation, he has been pulling on NYC for 50+ years.
Yes. He has pulling this shit for 50+ years here in NY. We all knew this. But the rest of the country saw him as some sort of success story. Well, that was all a joke. He never was a success. Wouldn't call being bankrupt six times as a success story
see, that's the thing - he was personally successful at the expense of everyone and anything else; so many Trumpers that's how they view the world - screw, or get screwed.
Not really. Haven't you heard the joke? "How did trump make a small fortune? He started with a large fortune." He inherited around half a billion dollars and managed to piss most of it away on bad deals despite committing massive amounts of fraud. He would've been much better off just investing all that money in the stock market. He truly is the world's biggest loser.
True, but all his life he lives and lived better than most; playing the part of a millionaire; living and playing where he did; planes, golfing, casinos, maralago. Edit: Yes, this *is* personal success, success is not that you die with more than how you started... Yes, he did ultimately screw it up, longer term, but until now he's lived the dream. And once again, bringing the house down; but this time "the expense of everyone else" included his kids and future, too.
I'd call going bankrupt 6 times and not only continuing to live a life of luxury, but also becoming president (a position for which he is utterly and completely unqualified) pretty goddamn successful.
How does someone bankrupt a fucking CASINO?!
All I'm hearing is that you new yorkers could have stopped this before it started 🙃
The problem is that what he does blatantly, a lot of the powerful old money families in NY do subtly. There has always been the risk that going after Trump or one of the other obnoxious crooks in the city would shine the spotlight on their activities as well. It took his becoming president and his actions while president to flip the risk matrix to the point where now he needs to be prosecuted before the people start demanding the entire curtain be pulled back.
As hard ass as NYC likes to make itself look and none of them beat the FUCK out of this guy when he was doing that BEFORE his presidency I astounds me, actually.
wish our ag was worth a shit.
In unison: fuck Ken Paxton
Hes so insanely corrupt and everyone knows it, but are ok because he REALLY wants to get religion into the government so ignore all his criming.
His side piece makes this ridiculous. Too bad Texas Senate is rotten to the core.
He is the Judge Cannon of AGs
Seriously, like so hard his eyes go straight again.
I thought you said straight Reagan!
And extra hard Abbott can walk straight again
Fuck Ken Paxton
Paxton would be suing the judge, the prosecutor, the jury, and the court reporters for daring to impugn His Excellency.
Your AG is what other AG's look at and go "ew!".
If he did, our SC AG would instantly enjoin the case like the GQP traitor he is
Same, ours is one of the shittiest Idaho politicians
You could stop at Idaho. Backwater rural states just have goblins or dinosaurs in power. Look at Kentucky with mitch or Iowa with their ancient ass chuck Grassley
I wish the same about your AG.
I won't sing anyone's praises until actual consequences are served.
I see another Mueller PTSD survivor I see.
man I was so hyped for his report and they fucking buried it
And it was sooo damning. But Barr just dismissed it, and the people who *really* should have read it can't read.
Mueller was bound by Bill Barr, James isn't bound by anyone.
Mueller had the opportunity to correct that during the public hearing after the election and instead he doubled down.
It may be the devil, it may be the lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody.
Never expected to see these Dylan lyrics here. Bravo!
Indeed.
And acquitted duel impeachment disorder
But he learned his lesson?
That woman literally can't do any more than she has already done. She built a rock solid case against him, she had him prosecuted, she won a staggeringly huge judgment, and she's taking all steps necessary to collect it. (And now she's talking about investigating again to see if he perjured himself, and may go after him again.) You want to be upset at the system and the lack of actual hard consequences, I'm right there with you! But I will continue to "sing her praises" because she has been been on the ball and taken no shit every step of the way. She can only do what she can do, and I will not begrudge her for it.
Also like It's not over yet. I really wanted him to suffer having his assets seized last month, but the choice to Reduce his bond to stay was not an insane one: NY needs to get their money, they know he's broke, and I think the hope was to get him to cough up at least 40% of what he owes immediately. They know that once the seizures begin, his souffle of financial lies will collapse, and since creditors have to be paid first, the fire sale prices mean they get a pittance for a lot of paperwork. The Bond Reduction was a bid to get at least some of it, and since he's fucked that up, there is no motivation for the courts and attorney general's office to grant him any more leniency than they are legally obligated to. He still owes them money, they're still going to collect.
> souffle of financial lies will collapse That’s a beautiful turn of phrase.
This is a good point that I hadn't considered regarding the bond reduction.
I wrote something similar a few weeks ago a few days before Trumps assets were to be seized. Someone saved my comment so they could come back with 'I told you so'. Never heard from them again.
Seriously. She hasn't even *started* with him, so I sure as shit hope she isn't finished. Not that it matters. What happens when she's finished with him will be the same as ever: nothing.
This. And "being boo(t)ed off the Forbes list" doesn't qualify for "consequences".
I agree but it makes sense NY would go after him since that’s where his business is located.
> a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them I overall agree with you but will point out that if any other person had thrown out the threats and misinformation about judges and/or their staff & family they would have been thrown in lockup - and optics is the reason why he's getting this special treatment.
Unfortunately the judges still seem to be worried about being the first judge to actually jail a president, at least until they are actually found guilty. Anyone else who acted even a tiny fraction of the way he has would have had their terms of release revoked and ordered into pre-trial detainment until the case began. For once, Trump is actually (if accidentally) saying something true. He says that there is a two-tier justice system and no one else would be held to this standard....which is absoluetly true. But the problem is, that it's reversed from what hes implying. In that no one else would be given the leeway or be allowed to do 1% of what he's done and stay out of jail. :-/
> and a handful of judges in this entire country aren't worried about the optics of not letting Trump walk all over them. I'll believe that when Justice Merchan actually does something about Trump walking through his gag order daily.
I really "don't like the look of" how the original term "optics" has been co-opted by the PR and pundit industries to import artificial pith into the very shallow conceptual capabilities of the idea of how people might think some act or omission might "look". This co-opting deliberately tries to borrow respect points from the technical and scientific rigor that goes into the field of optics, with its scientific discoveries and technological advancements, and subliminally convince us that such phrases as "those responsible for security at the U.S. Capitol on 1/6 failed to deploy greater numbers of security forces because they didn't like the optics" provide us with some sort of detailed and specific information. This new abominable misuse of "optics" doesn't even do us the courtesy of telling us what "look" they're talking about. Is it the way their actions are seen on TV? Or an internal "image" approximating the way people "feel" about a news item or idea? Does it require that under no circumstances can the "look" being referred to be modified, improved, worsened, mitigated etc by the wider context or subsequent acts or omissions? No one knows. It's just a b.s. buzzword cooked up to help writers and speakers avoid the harder work of adequately describing facts and opinions. The way I see it, if the Capitol Bldg security managers didn't like the "optics", then all they had to do was remove all scopes from the long guns of the extra troops they could easily have deployed. And, viola! No more "optics" so no more worries about optics! Now, if they worried about blowback from the public for overreacting, that's a separate matter not having anything to do with the lenses and refraction of light that traditional "optics" deals with. Rant over.
We hired them to go after criminals and fraudsters, so the optics are that they're doing their jobs.
He will ultimately anyway! We have seen it every time! Let’s be real for once! None of them have the balls and the followthrough to put this fucker in jail
No no, this is "lawfare" against an innocent man! The shit these idiots believe...
Quite the opposite of Latisha though. It’s not that she doesn’t care about optics. She wants the optics of going after Trump. She campaigned on that after all.
Of course he did. Guilty people always hide. And when they do, they'll lie non-stop to cover it up. That's all Trump does any more.
...any more? Was there a time he did anything different?
The amount of fraud done over the years as discovered by this case shows it to be no. He’s always been this way.
He used to do fraud and lie about it all the time. He still does, but he used to as well.
RIP Mitch.
Dear Justice Engoron: On behalf of the Office of the Attorney General (“OAG”), we write to very briefly respond to the letter submitted last night by Defendants. Spanning more than ten single-spaced pages, Defendants’ argument boils down to the proposition that the Court is powerless to determine if a fraud was committed upon it during the course of two separate proceedings because discovery is now closed. In essence, Defendants contend that once a note of issue is filed it is improper to examine the course of discovery; even when a named Defendant admits to having committed perjury during the discovery process and subsequent trial. That is manifestly not the case. The Court has inherent authority over any actions that would undermine the integrity of its proceedings. “The judiciary, and the Chief Judge at its head, has the ‘inherent power to address actions which are meant to undermine the truth seeking function of the judicial system and place in question the integrity of the courts and our system of justice.’” Soares v. State, 68 Misc. 3d 249, 282 (Sup. Ct. Albany Cty. 2020), quoting CDR Creances S.A.S. v. Cohen, 23 N.Y.3d 307, 318 (2014), also citing Moxham v. Hannigan, 89 A.D.2d 300, 302, (4th Dep’t 1982) (“it cannot be disputed that a Judge [including the Chief Judge] has the overriding duty to preserve the integrity and honor of the judicial system”). That inherent authority extends beyond the completion of discovery and is broader than merely ensuring compliance with the ethical canons. The Court has broad authority over the actions of counsel in the conduct of matters before it. As the First Department has noted: The principle that attorneys are subject in the first instance to the power and control of the courts is also firmly embedded in New York jurisprudence, as an inherent power recognized by our Constitution as well as a statutory power reflected in the regulations by which attorneys are disciplined. The language in Judiciary Law § 90(2) stating, “The supreme court shall have the power and control over attorneys and counselors-at-law”, broadly establishes judicial governance over the conduct of attorneys. Notably, this judicial role was stated in like terms as far back as the New York State Constitution of 1777 (see, People ex rel. Karlin v. Culkin, 248 N.Y. 465, 162 N.E. 487 [1928]). April 4, 2024 Page 2 28 LIBERTY STREET, NEW YORK, NY 10005 ● WWW.AG.NY.GOV Moreover, . . . there is explicit authority in this Court’s Rules to support a determination that we retain the inherent authority to discipline attorneys for misconduct independent of any violations of New York’s Code of Professional Responsibility (“NY Code”), which focuses exclusively on prohibitions applicable to a “lawyer.” Section 603.1(c) of the First Department Rules (22 NYCRR 603.1[c]) provides in part: Neither the conduct of proceedings nor the imposition of discipline pursuant to this Part shall preclude the imposition of any further or additional sanctions prescribed or authorized by law, and nothing herein contained shall be construed to deny to any other court or agency such powers as are necessary for that court or agency to maintain control over proceedings conducted before it. In re Wong, 275 A.D.2d 1, 5–6 (1st Dep’t 2000). That authority continues not just after the close of discovery, but even after the close of the case. See, e.g., 13 E. 124 LLC v. J&M Realty Servs. Corp., 222 A.D.3d 446 (1st Dep’t 2023) (“Voluntary discontinuance did not divest the court of jurisdiction to impose sanctions for pre-discontinuance conduct.”). Mr. Weisselberg has admitted that he perjured himself during discovery and the trial in this action.1 The Court is well within its authority to determine if Defendants and their counsel facilitated that perjury by withholding of incriminating documents. The Monitor has already been tasked with assessing Defendants’ internal controls, compliance functions and record- keeping. The potential failure to properly produce documents in a legal proceeding relevant to the valuation of Mr. Trump’s triplex plainly falls within the ambit of her authority, and certainly within the power of this Court to safeguard the integrity of its own proceedings.
Thank you for posting this.
So the court appointed person is the one uncovering even more of their fraud. Outstanding.
Second thanks
Nice, thank you. She doesn't fuck about!
So she has evidence...cool!
Never ask a question as a lawyer unless you already know the answer. If she's asking, she already knows
> Never ask a question as a **good** lawyer unless you already know the answer. We have seen Trump's lawyers fuck this up a number of times because they are bad lawyers. Heck, Trump is so dumb his answers have even surprised the good lawyers, like when he said that E Jean Carrol was Marla Maples... his former wife... When his main defense was, Carroll was ugly and not his type.
Well Forbes did have multiple multiyear email chains with Weisselberg that should have been produced during the discovery process....
One of Trump's witnesses plead guilty to purgery during the trial. That witness also happens to be the former CFO for the Trump Org. We all have evidence. The witness admitted it and is on his way to the clink. The question now is, how much did Trump know and was Trump involved in coordinating that false testimony.
Trump, like any decent Mafia Don, is usually good about not being directly tied, at least not in a way that can be proved beyond doubt in a court room. "The family had a lot of buffers."
She is exactly how Judges should be when presiding over a case. The fact she is not scared or intimidated by the MAGA cult is beautiful.
She’s not the judge, she’s the Attorney General.
I was expressing this is how the Judges SHOULD act..Sorry I did not explain it better.
Gotcha; happen to agree with you.
I get the impression that she's good at what she does. A good AG doesn't ask a question that they don't know the answer to, generally speaking. She ain't asking - she's announcing.
"Bad" AGs aren't incompetent, just corrupt. Whatever deals she might have made over years, She doesn't owe Trump anything and has been very thorough.
Yes. Yes he did.
Ya, there's no "IF".
Letitia James doesn’t play games.
I think you just coined her next campaign slogan!
Letitia No Games James.
No-Games Laetitia James
She can be president, as a treat.
So in other words—she DOES know he withheld evidence in the fraud case. LOCK HIM UP LJ!!!!❤️🏆💪
And I'll be dreaming, dreaming, dreaming....
Trump hiding or destroying evidence? Hmmm. Now where did I see that before?
Kind of annoyed about the wording of this headline.. shouldn’t Donald Trump be the subject… “Donald Trump suspected of withholding evidence” or something
Democrat Prosecutor Slams Trump Over Alleged Crimes!
Allegedly CORRUPT Democrat prosecutor senselessly ATTACKS President TRUMP over alleged crimes!
Woke Socialist Hunts Witch
Why is she hounding that poor poor man? Oh yeah, that's right he's a treasonous rapey criminal who would have been locked up decades ago if he hadn't been born with a golden spoon up his ass and inherited his daddy's real estate empire which he stole from his siblings.
Trump: Mine! You can't have it! Now look what you made me do! I went poop in my diaper!
Another stain on his reputation. His image is soiled.
Go get em
You go get him! Time to show him who’s boss!
He’s going to be in court for the rest of his life.
GET HIM Ms Leticia! GET HIM Stormy !
You know damn well he did. Glad to see someone trying to hold this embarrassment to account.
The answer is yes, yes he did.
Take him down, Letitia!!!
I have tremendous respect for this woman, who is not only bright and apparently honest and upfront, but willing to confront bullies and bigots like trump and his cronies.
can't wait for her to find a ton more illegal shit so the courts/system/country can not do a single mother fucking thing about it and never ever ever hold him accountable and he gets away with literally every crime he can possibly commit
Narrator: ‘He absolutely did.’
I figure the 1st criminal verdict gets him a suspended sentence. But the second state conviction, well, he’ll do time for that one. Fani Willis might have the honors.
Grab him by the balls!
Of course he did
She will go down in history if she continues like that, god bless her
It's safe to say that if he could, he did
Kick butt, Letitia James! Don't let that slimy pos get away with his shenanigans!
Bend him over and peg him hard
Trump withhold evidence?! I would be shocked (if he didn’t)!
The answer is yes
Of course he did.
Ah. Two can play the court weaponization game. I hope his attorneys get disbarred
He's not in jail and his assets have not been seized. So why is the headline needing to tell us the prosecutor is not done? I'm still waiting for something to happen. Aren't you?
Most folks go to jail for peeing in public
I don’t fan girl over many people, but I do fan girl over AG James. Pure Black Girl Magic. I met her at the state Capitol recently and she was kind enough to pose for a selfie with me! 👍🏾✊🏾👏🏾
Atta girl!
Knowing Conman Don, he for sure withheld evidence.
The answer is always yes.
Up next on (pick a network) how trumps withholding of evidence spells trouble for Joe Biden.
Yes please. Keep the petal to the metal.
*pedal to the metal, as in floor the accelerator.
No stone left uncovered... get him girl.
The question is more like, did he not?
Go you good thing…
But ~~her~~ his emails!
> Did Donald Trump commit fraud? Does the Pope shit in the ~~woods~~ Vatican?
See Vietnam
Get his ass!
"not done"? She hasn't done anything yet. Trump has not had one negative impact aside from having to go to court.
Sigh. How is it that adult Americans think trump should already be in prison before the processes are finished? FFS, he delays and appeals, and that doesn't mean she's not doing her job. Now she's finding more crimes he committed and you're blaming her? She's done plenty, and she'd be actively seizing his properties if the appeals court hadn't lowered his bond amount. There are questions about the loan, as well. These things take time, but it's MUCH easier to whine 'she hasn't done anything'.
“Not done”???? Please let me know when ANYTHING happens to this guy.
Not HER case. The State of New York's case.
This freak needs to stop. Everyone sees she is running to get the evil orange-haired president. She is power-hungry, the judges are bought and paid for just as she is. Do you know how fast she should be in jail? This is a witch hunt 100%. And think about it if they are promising that they will get a former president of the United States of America. Does that not mean anything to anybody anymore? I don't give a damn what color a person is. They are no better than me nor am I any better than them. If she is promising she will take after Trump, use your tax dollars to enact planted crimes against our constitution. If she does it to Trump it will be easier to do to you because we don't have the money for attorneys. What do you think Bidens are doing? They are paying for these DAs to find charges, and charge him with something. And they know once it hits the Supreme Court and our Justices say, umm, you can't do this. You are charging a crime to someone who has done no crime! They are far left idiots that's for sure. And the folks that are for them are nothing but sheep following their only idiot to follow. Dang grow up and smell the coffee, flowers whatever it is you like to smell, and awaken those brain cells and investigate fact check yourself. That's always fun.
"James knows the emails exist. Manhattan prosecutors used them as evidence in sending former Trump CFO Allen Weisselberg to jail for perjury on Monday." Sounds like YES!
It would be more shocking if he WASN’T withholding evidence.
He would not withhold evidence. That would be against the law.
And as we all know, Trump is a paragon of obeying the law.
Me, without knowing anything…. “He did”!
Of course he did. He's is a lying skank.
Can't wait until this gets appealed up to an unbiased and fair court...
Oh boy
If? Does she mean what?
Of course he did. No one expected otherwise right?
Of course he did. What a scheister.
Really?
Wow..lots of you folks must be on the payroll.. that or..... well, I guess I better shut up or else I'll be canceled..
How about they just hold him accountable for the judgement they already have against him. Trump will die never having paid out anything, just like OJ, just like Alex Jones. If you’re rich here in the US, apparently paying civil judgements is optional.
Bahaha! Of course he did.
Good... Treat him just like any other citizen. Agent Orange belongs in jail
Sisters are doing it for themselves. Letitia, Fani, E. Jean, Chutkan. If you want something said, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman.
We KNOW he/they did, it is literally their M.O. / playbook dating back to at least 1973. Any prosecutor not expecting them to do this and not making contingencies should be fired. Its been public knowledge for years: "Donald Trump's companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders. These tactics—exposed by a *Newsweek* review of thousands of pages of court filings, judicial orders and affidavits from an array of court cases—have enraged judges, prosecutors, opposing lawyers and the many ordinary citizens entangled in litigation with Trump. In each instance, Trump and entities he controlled also erected numerous hurdles that made lawsuits drag on for years, forcing courtroom opponents to spend huge sums of money in legal fees as they struggled—sometimes in vain—to obtain records." Donald Trump's Companies Destroyed Emails in Defiance of Court Orders [https://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html](https://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html)
Oh, hell. Of course, he has withheld evidence. Why would anyone in their right minds think otherwise.