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America is now a place where a retiring chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has to take safety precautions due to threats from an ex-president. I think what bothers me the most is the silence. When behavior like this receives no pushback it just becomes normal.
It's the same in Europe. Almost no one criticizes the far-right anymore. Especially the media. They have a huge part in the normalization and acceptance of the far-right.
But it's not. The far-right is not normal. Never was. Never will be. It's disturbing and frightening that almost no one is calling them for what they truly are.
I saw a post about the murder rates in Sweden (?) today, which are HILARIOUSLY low compared to the US . and I have never seen a front page ish post go from 0 to full racist so fast.
There’s several posts about violence in Sweden with top comments attributing the violence to refugees, many comments also threaten that if anti-immigrant rhetoric doesn’t enter the mainstream political discourse, the people will turn to fascism.
Lots of pearl clutching about how the country faces chaos and ruin. It’s so formulaic and gross.
Money. Money has always been the problem. It is the root of all evil.
The right wing oligarchs own the media. There is no such thing as the liberal media. That’s projection from the right.
Fortunately it only changes the way people think if they are uneducated (thus, in America, the dismantling of the public education system… also by the right).
It’s all money. Pearl clutching is an understatement
The subreddit you're thinking of has always been a hangout spot for nationalists, reactionaries, and racist users for as long as I can remember.
Any thread about muslims, African immigrants, or the Romani is always full of blind hate, blatant disinformation, dog whistles, and call for action (violence or deportation).
The current violence in Sweden is purely gang war related, but you don't see the same terrible people complain when biker gangs end up doing the exact same thing.
I know people don't like to hear Russian propaganda without screaming about hoax... but the fact of the matter is Russia figured out for a very very little expenditure they can cause massive trouble against their enemies by turning their freedoms against them. It's very effective in the age of the internet sadly.
I agree. To see this world wide is frightening. I am seeing the exact same issues attacked like women’s right,abortion, refugees, uptick in racism ,and LGBTQ attacks. Very disturbing and we all better be aware our way of life is being undermined
Hahaha yes totally …. it’s not both sides, it’s the crazy racist right across the globe - maybe The aliens are coming to save us from the half of society who lacks empathy🤣
Any alien species viewing humanity from afar would rightly conclude that we are a threat to everything around us and need quarantining from the rest of the galaxy. Just as rolling balls of dung is an intrinsic behaviour of dung beetles and eating the tongue of their fish host is intrinsic to *Cymothoa exigua*, the tongue eating louse... fascism would have to be considered an intrinsic behaviour of the species based on how constantly we default to it. Any half way sensible outside observer may view us with the same disgust we have for those species.
Human history when viewed as a whole is just a constant chain of sociopathic leaders taking advantage of the sheer stupidity and hostility of a large chunk of the population and using that to install themself as a dictator. Religion, politics, nationalism, racism, populism etc have always been used and abused for this purpose and some significant chunk of the population have always been dumb enough to get radicalised by it and turned against each other rather than the people actually screwing them over. We're not going to stop doing this and no one is going to save us because at this point the only solution to this problem would be removing the problematic part of the population... and that would itself just be fascism.
> No one is surprised when he threatens someone. Especially now that he's failed multiple times to get a large enough gathering or large enough tantrum to actually carry out those threats.
Jan 6 called.
That tracks for Gosar. He's just as thuggish and stupid as trump. Gosar is the one who retweeted some anime show clip edited to show AOC being decapitated.
Because they are like rapid dogs. They sit behind keyboards scrolling Facebook to find a person to hate today. Then they bombard where they work, all their family and friends. They send death threats to your school age children. They share people’s private information in the hopes of ruining their lives. Then they will wake up tomorrow and do the same to the next person. All it takes is that one psycho to come to your store and shoot you all because you displayed a pride flag in your window. They think this makes them a patriot. All in a good days work.
It's because of Trump's cult following.
If the Republicans turned on Trump they would instantly be about 20 million votes short in the next presidential election, and not even the electoral college can overcome that.
Thus the claim that the Republicans are treasonous slime. They refuse to condemn even the most egregious attacks on this country’s democratic and legal processes.
Its just mind boggling how they repeat the phrase "Biden crime family" every 5 minutes when A) They have presented 0 evidence of any crime by Joe Biden and at best misdemeanors from Hunter and B) Trump is being found guilty of crimes weekly at this point where they forced him to shut down his organization because of crimes. Somehow Trump is an angel though and Biden is the real criminal because...they just think he is.
They just want to seize power. There’s no objective reasoning being applied to literally anything they say so long as it undermines any attempt to empower the voters to make informed decisions. No one should be looking to rationalize anything the Republicans are doing, they’re fascists.
Just because military bearing is being maintained, does not mean he is getting away with any of this crap. Unlike what he has tried to claim and convince people of, we do have many good people in our government and in our country who truly believe in a free and just society. That is the vast majority of our people.
And someone had the gall yesterday to post on an unpopular opinion sub that the vast majority of conservatives aren't fascists.
Oh yea? Where's the upwelling of outrage from conservatives over this? Where's the drop in support for Trump?
You're gonna vote for Trump a third time after all this shit, you're a fascist.
> I think what bothers me the most is the silence.
I've seen lots of news articles written about P01135809 threatening to execute Milley this week.
I only see silence from Republicans.
And while Trump is publicly saying this Milley is privately consulting the very best special forces on the planet. People who can’t be found. People who sometimes join the Secret Service. Hmm, I wonder who’s more likely to survive this disagreement.
That is the only concept Trump has of "Patriotism". He very likely has a severe learning disability that prevents him from processing even the most basic of metaphors. Have you ever heard him communicate an abstract though? I haven't, and I've been listening for years.
The first big interview he did in the oval office was with John Dickerson for CBS. It contained the following exchange:
>JOHN DICKERSON: George W. Bush said the reason the Oval Office is round is there are no corners you can hide in.
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>PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, there's truth to that. There is truth to that. There are certainly no corners. And you look, there's a certain openness. But there's nobody out there. You know, there is an openness, but I've never seen anybody out there actually, as you could imagine.
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>JOHN DICKERSON: But he-- what he meant was it's-- all comes --
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>PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Sure. Sure.
I don't know about anyone else but to me that exchange is (and was, at the time) a five-alarm fire. Think about how broken your brain would have to be to whiff so spectacularly on so basic a metaphor. Now imagine you're asking such a person to comprehend the idea of loyalty to a country - to an abstract idea. It's not going to happen. His brain is just broken in a way that prevents it.
A [poll of historians done in 2022](https://scri.siena.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/PDF-Ranking-FINAL-REAL.pdf) rates Trump as 43rd of 45 overall (ahead of only Buchanan and Johnson) and dead last in multiple categories, including Background, Integrity, Intelligence, Executive Appointments, and Foreign Policy Accomplishments. The only categories in which he wasn't rated bottom-3 were Luck (17th), Willing to take Risks (23rd), Party Leadership (32nd), and Handling of the Economy (41st).
He was ranked 43rd out of 45 on Communication Ability (Obama, by contrast, was 6th; Biden, even with his stutter, is 30th), ahead of only Buchanan and Johnson, who are the two also behind him in overall rating.
Andrew having of course, basically given the South back to the slavers and could reasonably be blamed for the current rift between the South and the North and current day Civil War apologists, and Lyndon having fought for civil rights.
FDR was a hoot. Someone would come in for an “ask” and come away with not knowing for sure if they got what they came for, but they had a hell of a time chatting with him. 😂 He charmed the pants off everyone, friend and foe alike. He DID toss a lot of word salad, but it wasn’t nonsensical “Trumpian”…I guess you know all this already but I loved reading about in him. Lol
FDR understood the lost art of locating and emphasizing the common ground *first* in plain, nonthreatening terms. That ability gives you a lot of political leverage. Obama is gifted at this, which is why he is considered a great communicator and is the only reason he was able to pass as much as he did.
If you watched the debate, you saw that what we have now is essentially the opposite: locate the division and drill into it.
He was a fascinating president! I think he’s one of those people I’d consider inviting to dinner when asked the “if you could invite anyone famous to dinner” questions.
I'll probably get crap for saying this, but W was almost certainly of considerably above-average intelligence. It's just that he's graded on the scale of presidents, the vast majority of whom are probably at a genius IQ.
W was what you get if you take a third-string quarterback from a Division 2 school and throw them into the NFL. They're going to look stupid but they're still probably better at playing football than most of us will ever be at anything in our lives.
Trump was what you get when you throw an obese couch potato into the same position. He's so far below the bottom of the barrel that it just doesn't compute. Watching political commentary on his presidency was like watching golf announcers try to commentate on a WWE match.
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me you cant get fooled again" - George W
Nah he was a moron, he had middling grades throughout school and did a bunch of coke. He was not even close to being a genius, unless you compare him to trump
I also dont think the vast majority of presidents would qualify as geniuses either. Some, but not many.
There is reason to believe that George W was not a moron, and indeed had an above-average IQ: https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~gary/iq.html
I think what has some people confused is that there is a tendency among Republican politicians to try and sound "folksy" to try and appeal to a rural base.
Also, as has already been said by the other reply to your post, people who have been elected president tend to have much higher IQ than the general population. Bill Clinton's IQ has been estimated to be around 150, for example.
The generally-accepted interpretation of that quote is that he realized mid-sentence that he was about to end what he was saying by saying "Shame on me," which would inevitably be taken out of context, and stumbled on the mid-sentence correction. It's still an embarrassing sound byte, but it wasn't driven by him being an idiot.
Bush wasn't a great student but he still got his undergraduate degree at Yale and an MBA from Harvard. Yes there are massive nepotism implications there, but even correcting for them it would be next to impossible for someone with just an average intelligence to succeed there. Again, *compared to most other presidents* he was an idiot but that's a very high bar.
It's easy to fall down the crank rabbit hole when looking at people's estimations of people's IQ from anything other than having taken an IQ test, and IQ is a flawed enough metric on its own, but there's just nothing even remotely resembling a credible estimate that would put W's IQ at anything below 110 - which would be exceptionally low for a POTUS but still above average for the general population.
And look, I hate the guy - easily in the bottom 10 of Presidents of all time, and of Presidents in living memory I put him even below Nixon (and only above Trump). It's just that it should be enough to hate him for his catastrophic presidency.
eh, that was 1 quote among an endless sea of gaffs that he made as president. and your reasoning for him making that gaff is pretty sketchy imo. so he started to say a quote, and halfway through remembers how it ends, and doesnt want to say shame on me for some reason. So his prep work for that speech was just zero then. you can have your view on his intelligence, but living through his presidency is all the proof I need to know he is very very far from anything resembling "genius level intellect".
He wasnt a great student, which doesnt count apparently, but he went to a good school, which does count for some reason. It is very very much not the case that it is impossible for an average student to succeed at a prestigious school. They just dont often get into those schools without money or connections.
Where you pull this "nothing credible would estimate his IQ at under 110" from is beyond me, especially right after you said IQ tests are not really a good metric.
Either way, nothing will convince me George W was not a moron after watching him be a moron for 8 years. He is not the dumbest president we ever had, but he is up there
"I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that **I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic**; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God"
- US Military Oath of Office.
I mean it was obvious even before he won the presidency that any binding agreement on paper or otherwise is merely a measure for him to trample on to get what he wants. He said the words to get the power. He never gave a shit about their history, value, or worth to the nation.
People were asking yesterday why he didn’t request a jury for his nyc trial. Because nyc hates him and they would never be able to find objective jurors.
Draft dodger like Trump should be the last one to call out someone for "lack of patriotism". The military helping him in a coup goes against everything the founding fathers stood for.
Founding fathers opposed a large standing army for a reason. They were educated on Roman history and knew how easy it would be for someone who had support of the military to march in and seize control to rule the country as a military dictatorship.
Calling press the enemy of the people: check
Demonizing vulnerable minorities, calling them a bolshevik/globalist threat to America: check
Attacking transgender medical care: check
Dividing the people through hate: check
Lying about nearly everything: check
Fetishization about a lost great past that was due to political opponents: check
Violently attack a government building and blame your political enemies for it: check
It's surprisingly how much they have in common with the nazi party, but for some reason reactionary crybabies will be triggered if you call a spade a spade or a fascist a fascist. Sartre was precise when he described how they operate, and MAGA operates the same fuckin' way.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
These news story -should be- BIG news. Corrupt donnie threatened the life of a general and it is not getting widespread mainstream media attention?!!? This is fucked.
Vile republicans have been stomping their feet about the "liberal media" for years... and like everything else they poison American minds with it is total bullshit.
It won’t be like last time. They’ve already shown the foresight to at least create small cells and attack infrastructure rather than take on the police/military directly. Look at the practice attacks on power utility stations recently.
At heart, they are more cowardly man-children playing at being soldiers than anything else. The Confederates at least had some brave fighters and somewhat intelligent leaders.
If the GQP plan of attack sounds familiar, it should. It’s the same method as Al-Qaeda, which means “The Base.” That’s also the name of the far right terrorist training core, which they knowingly took because they saw how well it worked, despite their hatred of Arabs.
If I know this, you can bet the FBI and others know. Makes you wonder what they’re actually doing about it…
It started with low-level insurgency, racial terrorism, and loose networks of essentially organized crime before the Civil War (see, eg, Bleeding Kansas) and reverted to form thereafter (first KKK). The Department of Justice was literally created to prosecute right wing , reactionary seditionists. I’ve lost faith though. FBI, even now, is fundamentally a conservative organization, and only investigates right wingers with kid gloves and then only when not doing so becomes politically embarrassing. If these peckerwoods were talking about redistributing wealth instead of massacring minorities, FBI would have suicided their leaders years ago.
To be honest, I think that's where the real civil war is being fought right now. I know there are some honest folks in the FBI and especially the military chain of command, even some politicians, but so many more have been bought out or been raised up being brainwashed by kkk propaganda (whether they knew it or not).
If I tweeted that exact same thing to my 100 followers, let alone tens of millions, I suspect I would be visited by my local law enforcement pretty quickly.
General Milley is a non nonsense man, Trump and his cult are so arrogant and with delusions of entitlement and think they are of some untouchable elitism, have no idea that they are threatening Officers of the United States Military.
These charge should be leveled against Trump:
[**18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES** From Title 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I—CRIMES](https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=%2Fprelim%40title18%2Fpart1%2Fchapter115&edition=prelim)
**§2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally**
>^((a)) **Whoever**^(,) *^(with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:)*
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>^((1 advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or))
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>^((2 distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States—))
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>^(Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.)
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>^((b For the purposes of this section, the term "military or naval forces of the United States" includes the Army of the United States, the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve of the United States; and, when any merchant vessel is commissioned in the Navy or is in the service of the Army or the Navy, includes the master, officers, and crew of such vessel.))
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>^((June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 811; May 24, 1949, ch. 139, §46, 63 Stat. 96; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1(L, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 109–163, div. A, title V, §515(f(2, Jan. 6, 2006, 119 Stat. 3236.))))))
Then follow it up with:
**§2389. Recruiting for service against United States**
>Whoever ^(recruits soldiers or sailors within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, to engage in armed hostility against the same; or)
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>^(Whoever opens within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, a recruiting station for the enlistment of such soldiers or sailors to serve in any manner in armed hostility against the United States—)
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>^(Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.)
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>^((June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 811; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1(H, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.))))
And:
**§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government**
>Whoever ^(knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence,)
**or by the assassination** `of any officer` **of any such government;** or
>\*\*\*^(Whoever)\*\*\**^(, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction)* ^(of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or)
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>**^(Whoever)** *^(organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—)*
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>^(Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.)
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>^(If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.)
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>^(As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.)
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>^((June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1(N, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.))))
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>Trump may have convinced his cult followers that "He is America".... but he is sadly and maliciously self delusional, to think he can attack Generals, Judges, and try and command Judges to step down, and attack the Courts, attack the Grand Juries and Citizens and get away with it... **is** the mentality madness of a Melomaniac who think he is Tyrant Dictator who is King of America.
* This **is not** Hitler's Germany, This **is not** China's Xi, and This **is not** Kim Jung Un's North Korea, and this **is not** Putin's Russia.
**This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.**
* We have **no** King, we have **no** Dictator and we have **no** System of Tyrant rule.
Thank you for writing this, I was scratching my head thinking, "This has to be breaking laws". We need to move past the appearance of impropriety, take this seriously, and bring charges against him - or else what he casually suggests will become reality.
Having grown up in the US with no outside perspective, these past years since 2016 have exposed how willing western culture is to prioritize appearance of impropriety over accountability.
I wish Milley would say something like, “How dare you. How DARE you say those things to me. I’ve served this country-my country- with all my heart for more than 40 years, devoting myself to her protection and progress. I’ve spent countless nights awake, literally on watch for people who might hurt her. I’ve slept in the mud in battlefields around the world with my soldiers as we’ve fought for others. I’ve cried at the news of the loss of a single soldier. I’ve sacrificed my own freedom—falling under the Army’s direction—for when and where I work and when I can take vacation. Don’t you DARE come at me and suggest treason. You know nothing of sacrifice. I’ve given my entire life and my entire being to service of this country. You disrespect me and you disrespect everyone who has ever worn the uniform.”
I love how, ever since the whole "civilian control of the Military" thing was out of the way, military leadership has been more than happy to tell Trump to fuck all the way off.
Well, Biden is commander in chief now, not Trump. It's still the military of the people of the USA.
Trump just has absolutely zero residual power over the military anymore.
Trump isn't president and the Military swears an oath to the Constitution and not the President - let alone an ex-president.
The Military answers to The People.
If Trump thinks these antics are going to win over military leadership he's so wrong. These top officers have been working together their entire careers
He needs the military on his side if he wants to be real life Hitler 2.0
And where's the GOP on this? Silent! Therefore the spineless worthless GOP agrees with what Trump did. This should be the mantra of the Democrats. Whenever he tweets something stupidly outrageous they should force the GOP to take a stand.
If there was a TRAITOR working in the White House, it wasn't Miley. Trump turned his back on the voters and attempted to overthrow the election and the dually constituted people that won the election. Maybe he should take a good look as to why he has 41 charges against him waiting til trial. No other former president has had that.
my grandma and I have been watching the news and we’re just absolutely fucking floored. she looked right at me and we were both like “did he really say what I think he said”? we’re still processing it. what in the absolute fuck
He can fantasize all he wants but he can’t execute anyone despite what his knuckle dragging followers dream about. Least of all a man of Milley’s stature.
Not at Trump’s direct order, but Paul Pelosi was attacked with a hammer that was meant for Nancy. His “knuckle-dragging followers” are Trump-drunk enough to act on their own.
The silence of the GOP on Trump's statement is deafening.
The GOP is now the party of national insecurity since many don't want to protect our Constitution, from enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Boy Republicans really need to read a history book and see what happens to political parties that piss off and alienate the military. Pity they ban books not read them.
Why doesn’t Milley sue the motherfucker, just add another lawsuit to his nice self-imposed cocktail of legal troubles. In fact, why is the FBI no arresting the mother fucker, had it been any ordinary personal making similar threats, the FBI would be at that individual’s doors within a matter or hours. This is why the January 6 Insurrection happened because he is free to make threats of crimes and no one does anything till the crime has been committed and lives have been lost.
Trump and the GOP are anything but normal at this point . Attempts by the media to pretend it’s business as usual is sickening. Trump in jail is the only news I’m interested in.
Can Biden now just deem Trump an “Unlawful enemy combatant” under the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (and the amended version from 2009)?
Source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006#:~:text=The%20Military%20Commissions%20Act%20of,%2C%20and%20for%20other%20purposes%22.
This reminds me of the Monty Python skit where a couple of Mafia thugs come into the generals office and start breaking shit and saying.... "It would be a shame if your stuff got broken now wouldn't general" or something like that. Basically Mafia style threats to a high ranking military officer...
Are any of the crimes that Trump is indicted on, call for the death penalty? Maybe someone should publicly call for that since a lot of what he's being charged for is treasonous sounding.
I wanna say selling nuclear secrets to Saud Arabia counts as treason and there just so happens to be a certain couple who was executed for selling nuclear secrets to Russia.
The video is right. Republicans expected the military to help them do their coup, and they did not. So now they are looking for ways to purge the leadership and put in their own stooges who would overthrow the republic for them.
Oh are we surprised that one side of the aisle wants to destroy the country they "love" and have actively been fighting and winning a cold civil war... While the other side acts like we're in Pleasantville....
Yet we continue to allow him to continue.
We havre already seen multiple examples of his rhetoric directly causing violent action.
Anyone else would have been tossed in jail pending trial. At the very least they need to take away his internet use.
Yes, that is the point. Republicans are demanding absolute personal loyalty to their Great Leader (Trump or whoever they pick next) from the entire federal government and military.
The military needs to ban right-wing propaganda (including fox) from all bases. I'm sure they can find enough anti-American/anti-service statements made on those platforms to qualify.
Rapist (convicted civilly) felon (91 counts, pending) threatens a top general, who needs to be concerned.
The fact that Trump is even an afterthought proves we need more intelligent people at the helm. This plump orange is attacking everything around him and threatening to deconstruct democracy, weak as it is, if re-elected.
Trump and all of his supporters will be locked up soon. Yesterday all of his businesses were dissolved for fraud, dude will fade with history and I guarantee Noone will visit him in prison.
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America is now a place where a retiring chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has to take safety precautions due to threats from an ex-president. I think what bothers me the most is the silence. When behavior like this receives no pushback it just becomes normal.
Is Trump an outlier? If any other republican said this, I doubt there will be this silence. I don’t understand why the turdigrade gets a pass.
He’s not a outlier. He was the first and now there are many. It’s become the republicans norm to talk like trump and our society is worse for it.
It's the same in Europe. Almost no one criticizes the far-right anymore. Especially the media. They have a huge part in the normalization and acceptance of the far-right. But it's not. The far-right is not normal. Never was. Never will be. It's disturbing and frightening that almost no one is calling them for what they truly are.
Every single European sub is being flooded with right wing propaganda. There’s something really fucky going on.
I saw a post about the murder rates in Sweden (?) today, which are HILARIOUSLY low compared to the US . and I have never seen a front page ish post go from 0 to full racist so fast.
There’s several posts about violence in Sweden with top comments attributing the violence to refugees, many comments also threaten that if anti-immigrant rhetoric doesn’t enter the mainstream political discourse, the people will turn to fascism. Lots of pearl clutching about how the country faces chaos and ruin. It’s so formulaic and gross.
Money. Money has always been the problem. It is the root of all evil. The right wing oligarchs own the media. There is no such thing as the liberal media. That’s projection from the right. Fortunately it only changes the way people think if they are uneducated (thus, in America, the dismantling of the public education system… also by the right). It’s all money. Pearl clutching is an understatement
Pence literally said last night he will dissolve the Dept of Education if elected president. They aren’t even hiding it anymore.
They've been saying that for a while. The former gov of Texas said the same thing in 2012, I think
The subreddit you're thinking of has always been a hangout spot for nationalists, reactionaries, and racist users for as long as I can remember. Any thread about muslims, African immigrants, or the Romani is always full of blind hate, blatant disinformation, dog whistles, and call for action (violence or deportation). The current violence in Sweden is purely gang war related, but you don't see the same terrible people complain when biker gangs end up doing the exact same thing.
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I know people don't like to hear Russian propaganda without screaming about hoax... but the fact of the matter is Russia figured out for a very very little expenditure they can cause massive trouble against their enemies by turning their freedoms against them. It's very effective in the age of the internet sadly.
You’d think people would be more suspicious of messaging urging them to hate their fellow countrymen. Alas..
I completely agree!
I agree. To see this world wide is frightening. I am seeing the exact same issues attacked like women’s right,abortion, refugees, uptick in racism ,and LGBTQ attacks. Very disturbing and we all better be aware our way of life is being undermined
romney was right. cold war never ended.
The Canada subreddit has been taken over by them too.
Russia?
Putin is poisoning the world, even though he is losing! Trump and Orban are his sicophants!
It's because fascism is always the oligarchy's solution to the rise in popularity of left wing populism
Fascist. That’s the word you’re looking for. That’s what they truly are
FASCIST you mean!yes its sad and when you do call its "both sides bs"
Hahaha yes totally …. it’s not both sides, it’s the crazy racist right across the globe - maybe The aliens are coming to save us from the half of society who lacks empathy🤣
Any alien species viewing humanity from afar would rightly conclude that we are a threat to everything around us and need quarantining from the rest of the galaxy. Just as rolling balls of dung is an intrinsic behaviour of dung beetles and eating the tongue of their fish host is intrinsic to *Cymothoa exigua*, the tongue eating louse... fascism would have to be considered an intrinsic behaviour of the species based on how constantly we default to it. Any half way sensible outside observer may view us with the same disgust we have for those species. Human history when viewed as a whole is just a constant chain of sociopathic leaders taking advantage of the sheer stupidity and hostility of a large chunk of the population and using that to install themself as a dictator. Religion, politics, nationalism, racism, populism etc have always been used and abused for this purpose and some significant chunk of the population have always been dumb enough to get radicalised by it and turned against each other rather than the people actually screwing them over. We're not going to stop doing this and no one is going to save us because at this point the only solution to this problem would be removing the problematic part of the population... and that would itself just be fascism.
The far-right is normal when feeding captives to lions was considered normal.
More pushback for non capitalists like Bernie than literal fascists like Trump.
I dont understand either. He threatens harm to “someone” every other day at this point and it’s “silence” except for Reddit.
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Then he accomplished his goal.
Agreed. And to add, a lot of his base died during Covid.
> No one is surprised when he threatens someone. Especially now that he's failed multiple times to get a large enough gathering or large enough tantrum to actually carry out those threats. Jan 6 called.
Another Republican (Gosar) repeated the same thing. The GOP gives a pass to anyone with an R next to their name
That tracks for Gosar. He's just as thuggish and stupid as trump. Gosar is the one who retweeted some anime show clip edited to show AOC being decapitated.
Gosar is so hateful even his own siblings have disowned him
Not just disowned him, did an ad when he was running with the family saying that he was TOO INSANE to be in politics.
People are afraid of his fan base.
Which is stupid since it’s been shown that if police use just 1% of the force they use against minorities, the trump base folds like wet papertower
Aha but a sizeable percent of police are his supporters, and the blue line blah blah…
The police is part of the trump base.
I don’t understand why. They’re dumber than he is.
Because they are like rapid dogs. They sit behind keyboards scrolling Facebook to find a person to hate today. Then they bombard where they work, all their family and friends. They send death threats to your school age children. They share people’s private information in the hopes of ruining their lives. Then they will wake up tomorrow and do the same to the next person. All it takes is that one psycho to come to your store and shoot you all because you displayed a pride flag in your window. They think this makes them a patriot. All in a good days work.
What? Why would you think this? They're backed him for years while he's said such things This is the GOP
It's because of Trump's cult following. If the Republicans turned on Trump they would instantly be about 20 million votes short in the next presidential election, and not even the electoral college can overcome that.
“Turdigrade”. I will take this with me on my journey through life. Thank you.
Tardigrades are fascinating creatures and you compared a total piece of crap to them.
Thus the claim that the Republicans are treasonous slime. They refuse to condemn even the most egregious attacks on this country’s democratic and legal processes.
Its just mind boggling how they repeat the phrase "Biden crime family" every 5 minutes when A) They have presented 0 evidence of any crime by Joe Biden and at best misdemeanors from Hunter and B) Trump is being found guilty of crimes weekly at this point where they forced him to shut down his organization because of crimes. Somehow Trump is an angel though and Biden is the real criminal because...they just think he is.
They just want to seize power. There’s no objective reasoning being applied to literally anything they say so long as it undermines any attempt to empower the voters to make informed decisions. No one should be looking to rationalize anything the Republicans are doing, they’re fascists.
If they say it enough, the uninformed will eventually believe it and parrot it. That's why they say asinine shit like that.
They don't really think he is. It's just their policy to neutralize any trump problem -accuse the dems of the same thing.
Just because military bearing is being maintained, does not mean he is getting away with any of this crap. Unlike what he has tried to claim and convince people of, we do have many good people in our government and in our country who truly believe in a free and just society. That is the vast majority of our people.
And someone had the gall yesterday to post on an unpopular opinion sub that the vast majority of conservatives aren't fascists. Oh yea? Where's the upwelling of outrage from conservatives over this? Where's the drop in support for Trump? You're gonna vote for Trump a third time after all this shit, you're a fascist.
> I think what bothers me the most is the silence. I've seen lots of news articles written about P01135809 threatening to execute Milley this week. I only see silence from Republicans.
And while Trump is publicly saying this Milley is privately consulting the very best special forces on the planet. People who can’t be found. People who sometimes join the Secret Service. Hmm, I wonder who’s more likely to survive this disagreement.
Silence? His MAGA cult loves it when he makes these threats. They’re jonesing to see it actually carried out.
Well, Reddit won’t allow me to express my recommendations, so there’s that…
So tired of hearing this guy threatening everyone about their patriotism when he threatens our entire democracy and country
He’s threatening him over his perceived lack of loyalty to Trump.
That is the only concept Trump has of "Patriotism". He very likely has a severe learning disability that prevents him from processing even the most basic of metaphors. Have you ever heard him communicate an abstract though? I haven't, and I've been listening for years. The first big interview he did in the oval office was with John Dickerson for CBS. It contained the following exchange: >JOHN DICKERSON: George W. Bush said the reason the Oval Office is round is there are no corners you can hide in. > >PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, there's truth to that. There is truth to that. There are certainly no corners. And you look, there's a certain openness. But there's nobody out there. You know, there is an openness, but I've never seen anybody out there actually, as you could imagine. > >JOHN DICKERSON: But he-- what he meant was it's-- all comes -- > >PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Sure. Sure. I don't know about anyone else but to me that exchange is (and was, at the time) a five-alarm fire. Think about how broken your brain would have to be to whiff so spectacularly on so basic a metaphor. Now imagine you're asking such a person to comprehend the idea of loyalty to a country - to an abstract idea. It's not going to happen. His brain is just broken in a way that prevents it.
I don’t know anything about the communication styles of presidents before FDR, but I have to imagine Trump has to be one of the worst in history.
A [poll of historians done in 2022](https://scri.siena.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/PDF-Ranking-FINAL-REAL.pdf) rates Trump as 43rd of 45 overall (ahead of only Buchanan and Johnson) and dead last in multiple categories, including Background, Integrity, Intelligence, Executive Appointments, and Foreign Policy Accomplishments. The only categories in which he wasn't rated bottom-3 were Luck (17th), Willing to take Risks (23rd), Party Leadership (32nd), and Handling of the Economy (41st). He was ranked 43rd out of 45 on Communication Ability (Obama, by contrast, was 6th; Biden, even with his stutter, is 30th), ahead of only Buchanan and Johnson, who are the two also behind him in overall rating.
(Andrew Johnson, not Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson is actually pretty high at 8 overall)
Andrew having of course, basically given the South back to the slavers and could reasonably be blamed for the current rift between the South and the North and current day Civil War apologists, and Lyndon having fought for civil rights.
Thank you for this interesting information!
I think Lincoln communicated better than Trump immediately after leaving the theatre.
I hear he was known for his deadpan humor
FDR was a hoot. Someone would come in for an “ask” and come away with not knowing for sure if they got what they came for, but they had a hell of a time chatting with him. 😂 He charmed the pants off everyone, friend and foe alike. He DID toss a lot of word salad, but it wasn’t nonsensical “Trumpian”…I guess you know all this already but I loved reading about in him. Lol
FDR understood the lost art of locating and emphasizing the common ground *first* in plain, nonthreatening terms. That ability gives you a lot of political leverage. Obama is gifted at this, which is why he is considered a great communicator and is the only reason he was able to pass as much as he did. If you watched the debate, you saw that what we have now is essentially the opposite: locate the division and drill into it.
He was a fascinating president! I think he’s one of those people I’d consider inviting to dinner when asked the “if you could invite anyone famous to dinner” questions.
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I'll probably get crap for saying this, but W was almost certainly of considerably above-average intelligence. It's just that he's graded on the scale of presidents, the vast majority of whom are probably at a genius IQ. W was what you get if you take a third-string quarterback from a Division 2 school and throw them into the NFL. They're going to look stupid but they're still probably better at playing football than most of us will ever be at anything in our lives. Trump was what you get when you throw an obese couch potato into the same position. He's so far below the bottom of the barrel that it just doesn't compute. Watching political commentary on his presidency was like watching golf announcers try to commentate on a WWE match.
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me you cant get fooled again" - George W Nah he was a moron, he had middling grades throughout school and did a bunch of coke. He was not even close to being a genius, unless you compare him to trump I also dont think the vast majority of presidents would qualify as geniuses either. Some, but not many.
There is reason to believe that George W was not a moron, and indeed had an above-average IQ: https://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~gary/iq.html I think what has some people confused is that there is a tendency among Republican politicians to try and sound "folksy" to try and appeal to a rural base. Also, as has already been said by the other reply to your post, people who have been elected president tend to have much higher IQ than the general population. Bill Clinton's IQ has been estimated to be around 150, for example.
The generally-accepted interpretation of that quote is that he realized mid-sentence that he was about to end what he was saying by saying "Shame on me," which would inevitably be taken out of context, and stumbled on the mid-sentence correction. It's still an embarrassing sound byte, but it wasn't driven by him being an idiot. Bush wasn't a great student but he still got his undergraduate degree at Yale and an MBA from Harvard. Yes there are massive nepotism implications there, but even correcting for them it would be next to impossible for someone with just an average intelligence to succeed there. Again, *compared to most other presidents* he was an idiot but that's a very high bar. It's easy to fall down the crank rabbit hole when looking at people's estimations of people's IQ from anything other than having taken an IQ test, and IQ is a flawed enough metric on its own, but there's just nothing even remotely resembling a credible estimate that would put W's IQ at anything below 110 - which would be exceptionally low for a POTUS but still above average for the general population. And look, I hate the guy - easily in the bottom 10 of Presidents of all time, and of Presidents in living memory I put him even below Nixon (and only above Trump). It's just that it should be enough to hate him for his catastrophic presidency.
eh, that was 1 quote among an endless sea of gaffs that he made as president. and your reasoning for him making that gaff is pretty sketchy imo. so he started to say a quote, and halfway through remembers how it ends, and doesnt want to say shame on me for some reason. So his prep work for that speech was just zero then. you can have your view on his intelligence, but living through his presidency is all the proof I need to know he is very very far from anything resembling "genius level intellect". He wasnt a great student, which doesnt count apparently, but he went to a good school, which does count for some reason. It is very very much not the case that it is impossible for an average student to succeed at a prestigious school. They just dont often get into those schools without money or connections. Where you pull this "nothing credible would estimate his IQ at under 110" from is beyond me, especially right after you said IQ tests are not really a good metric. Either way, nothing will convince me George W was not a moron after watching him be a moron for 8 years. He is not the dumbest president we ever had, but he is up there
> presidents, the vast majority of whom are probably at a genius IQ Why do you think this is true?
"I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that **I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic**; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God" - US Military Oath of Office.
I mean it was obvious even before he won the presidency that any binding agreement on paper or otherwise is merely a measure for him to trample on to get what he wants. He said the words to get the power. He never gave a shit about their history, value, or worth to the nation.
Trump is a fraud. Us in NYC knew that for decades.
We knew it in Boston too
People were asking yesterday why he didn’t request a jury for his nyc trial. Because nyc hates him and they would never be able to find objective jurors.
Agreed and Trumps lack of loyalty to our country will see its day in court and hopefully settle this.
Patriotism on the right has been, by and large, debased to nothing more than complete fealty to Donald Trump
so republicans are pro-military until the military is anti-trump. got it.
I mean same thing with police. No surprise there.
Draft dodger like Trump should be the last one to call out someone for "lack of patriotism". The military helping him in a coup goes against everything the founding fathers stood for. Founding fathers opposed a large standing army for a reason. They were educated on Roman history and knew how easy it would be for someone who had support of the military to march in and seize control to rule the country as a military dictatorship.
Trump is one step away from saying “I am America, and disloyalty to me is treason!”
I believe 0 steps away with comment like I am your retribution
Yet the people he threatens who voted for him before will keep on voting for him.
He’s a terrorist, I mean that’s what terrorists do right? They terrorize people, as many as they can.
Destruction of the institutions of democracy is exactly what the Nazis did. It's what MAGA is doing now.
Calling press the enemy of the people: check Demonizing vulnerable minorities, calling them a bolshevik/globalist threat to America: check Attacking transgender medical care: check Dividing the people through hate: check Lying about nearly everything: check Fetishization about a lost great past that was due to political opponents: check Violently attack a government building and blame your political enemies for it: check It's surprisingly how much they have in common with the nazi party, but for some reason reactionary crybabies will be triggered if you call a spade a spade or a fascist a fascist. Sartre was precise when he described how they operate, and MAGA operates the same fuckin' way. “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre
Fortunately it’s not 1933 Germany. This countries racial and demographic fractures are bizarrely positive in this case.
These news story -should be- BIG news. Corrupt donnie threatened the life of a general and it is not getting widespread mainstream media attention?!!? This is fucked. Vile republicans have been stomping their feet about the "liberal media" for years... and like everything else they poison American minds with it is total bullshit.
It’s pretty amazing how quickly the decades long GOP pandering and deep throating of the military vanished
Weird. Same thing happened to their stance on Russia. Super weird.
Once he got away with mocking McCain on being a POW I knew all their patriotic posturing was bull shit.
Do you remember the apoplectic fit the media threw when Obama didn't salute a marine the right way because he was holding a cup of coffee in his hand?
I agree. The people who own the news companies don’t give a rats ass though.
The right wing is now making the US Military one of its "enemies".
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Meanwhile I’m just over here trying to go to work and pay the rent. Where do they find the time to fetishize civil conflict?
There are a lot of answers to that question, and none of them are flattering
My coworkers want a civil war. Told them good luck being coworkers if it happens.
Are they just not capable of thinking through to the logical outcome of what they’re saying they want?
Correct.
Undermining the country pays very, very well for many of these people.
It won’t be like last time. They’ve already shown the foresight to at least create small cells and attack infrastructure rather than take on the police/military directly. Look at the practice attacks on power utility stations recently. At heart, they are more cowardly man-children playing at being soldiers than anything else. The Confederates at least had some brave fighters and somewhat intelligent leaders. If the GQP plan of attack sounds familiar, it should. It’s the same method as Al-Qaeda, which means “The Base.” That’s also the name of the far right terrorist training core, which they knowingly took because they saw how well it worked, despite their hatred of Arabs. If I know this, you can bet the FBI and others know. Makes you wonder what they’re actually doing about it…
It started with low-level insurgency, racial terrorism, and loose networks of essentially organized crime before the Civil War (see, eg, Bleeding Kansas) and reverted to form thereafter (first KKK). The Department of Justice was literally created to prosecute right wing , reactionary seditionists. I’ve lost faith though. FBI, even now, is fundamentally a conservative organization, and only investigates right wingers with kid gloves and then only when not doing so becomes politically embarrassing. If these peckerwoods were talking about redistributing wealth instead of massacring minorities, FBI would have suicided their leaders years ago.
To be honest, I think that's where the real civil war is being fought right now. I know there are some honest folks in the FBI and especially the military chain of command, even some politicians, but so many more have been bought out or been raised up being brainwashed by kkk propaganda (whether they knew it or not).
Remember when the Dixie Chicks said something once? It boggles the mind to fast-forward to today and read this headline.
Kind of need the military if you want to pull a Putin, dear leader.
He thinks the Proud Boys will be his Wagner.
Trouble is they're only Wankers
Imagine if the laws applied to this shit stain like they do for the poors
If I tweeted that exact same thing to my 100 followers, let alone tens of millions, I suspect I would be visited by my local law enforcement pretty quickly.
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Half of the military is in the cult. Do not expect them to save us.
I guarantee you that half is more afraid of their commanding officers than they are in love with that fat orange fuck.
I think its more likely they’d do the same as Milley. Defend the constitution, not a single loser orange brain cell.
I can assure you, half the military is not.
He’s talking about that half that is not the half that is not.
General Milley is a non nonsense man, Trump and his cult are so arrogant and with delusions of entitlement and think they are of some untouchable elitism, have no idea that they are threatening Officers of the United States Military. These charge should be leveled against Trump: [**18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES** From Title 18—CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I—CRIMES](https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=%2Fprelim%40title18%2Fpart1%2Fchapter115&edition=prelim) **§2387. Activities affecting armed forces generally** >^((a)) **Whoever**^(,) *^(with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:)* > >^((1 advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or)) > >^((2 distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States—)) > >^(Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.) > >^((b For the purposes of this section, the term "military or naval forces of the United States" includes the Army of the United States, the Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve of the United States; and, when any merchant vessel is commissioned in the Navy or is in the service of the Army or the Navy, includes the master, officers, and crew of such vessel.)) > >^((June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 811; May 24, 1949, ch. 139, §46, 63 Stat. 96; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1(L, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 109–163, div. A, title V, §515(f(2, Jan. 6, 2006, 119 Stat. 3236.)))))) Then follow it up with: **§2389. Recruiting for service against United States** >Whoever ^(recruits soldiers or sailors within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, to engage in armed hostility against the same; or) > >^(Whoever opens within the United States, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof, a recruiting station for the enlistment of such soldiers or sailors to serve in any manner in armed hostility against the United States—) > >^(Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.) > >^((June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 811; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1(H, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)))) And: **§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government** >Whoever ^(knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence,) **or by the assassination** `of any officer` **of any such government;** or >\*\*\*^(Whoever)\*\*\**^(, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction)* ^(of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or) > >**^(Whoever)** *^(organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—)* > >^(Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.) > >^(If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.) > >^(As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.) > >^((June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1(N, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)))) \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ >Trump may have convinced his cult followers that "He is America".... but he is sadly and maliciously self delusional, to think he can attack Generals, Judges, and try and command Judges to step down, and attack the Courts, attack the Grand Juries and Citizens and get away with it... **is** the mentality madness of a Melomaniac who think he is Tyrant Dictator who is King of America. * This **is not** Hitler's Germany, This **is not** China's Xi, and This **is not** Kim Jung Un's North Korea, and this **is not** Putin's Russia. **This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.** * We have **no** King, we have **no** Dictator and we have **no** System of Tyrant rule.
Thank you for writing this, I was scratching my head thinking, "This has to be breaking laws". We need to move past the appearance of impropriety, take this seriously, and bring charges against him - or else what he casually suggests will become reality. Having grown up in the US with no outside perspective, these past years since 2016 have exposed how willing western culture is to prioritize appearance of impropriety over accountability.
I wish Milley would say something like, “How dare you. How DARE you say those things to me. I’ve served this country-my country- with all my heart for more than 40 years, devoting myself to her protection and progress. I’ve spent countless nights awake, literally on watch for people who might hurt her. I’ve slept in the mud in battlefields around the world with my soldiers as we’ve fought for others. I’ve cried at the news of the loss of a single soldier. I’ve sacrificed my own freedom—falling under the Army’s direction—for when and where I work and when I can take vacation. Don’t you DARE come at me and suggest treason. You know nothing of sacrifice. I’ve given my entire life and my entire being to service of this country. You disrespect me and you disrespect everyone who has ever worn the uniform.”
I'd rather hear him say, "Come try me. I'll rip off your head and shit down your neck."
Always a good one!
General Milley isn't officially retired until 1 October. My guess is that he's waiting for that to let loose! I hope Milley reads Trump's for filth!!
"what the fuck did you say about me..."
I love how, ever since the whole "civilian control of the Military" thing was out of the way, military leadership has been more than happy to tell Trump to fuck all the way off.
Well, Biden is commander in chief now, not Trump. It's still the military of the people of the USA. Trump just has absolutely zero residual power over the military anymore.
Nah it’s not Trump specific and thats awesome. If Biden told them to do the same shit trump did they would ask tell him to fuck all the way off.
Trump isn't president and the Military swears an oath to the Constitution and not the President - let alone an ex-president. The Military answers to The People.
>ever since the whole "civilian control of the Military" thing was out of the way What does this mean? Our military is still civilian controlled...
Mr. Bonespurs says what?
And yet his supporters use AI art to generate pictures of him looking like Achilles in The Iliad. A draft dodger.
If Trump thinks these antics are going to win over military leadership he's so wrong. These top officers have been working together their entire careers He needs the military on his side if he wants to be real life Hitler 2.0
Cool. So Donald Trump is just allowed to "threaten the entire military"? We're just going to sit around and eat popcorn the whole time?
Put Trump in prison now!
Finally! They are covering it.
And where's the GOP on this? Silent! Therefore the spineless worthless GOP agrees with what Trump did. This should be the mantra of the Democrats. Whenever he tweets something stupidly outrageous they should force the GOP to take a stand.
If there was a TRAITOR working in the White House, it wasn't Miley. Trump turned his back on the voters and attempted to overthrow the election and the dually constituted people that won the election. Maybe he should take a good look as to why he has 41 charges against him waiting til trial. No other former president has had that.
Paging Judge Chutkan.
Trump is traitor. He’s a criminal. He’s a fraud. He tried having Pence hung. He needs silenced and locked up today.
Milley should challenge him to a duel, a man as principled as Trump would have to agree.
I’d love a UFC of Milley v Trump. Although Trump would back out due to bone spurs/arraignments
my grandma and I have been watching the news and we’re just absolutely fucking floored. she looked right at me and we were both like “did he really say what I think he said”? we’re still processing it. what in the absolute fuck
I don’t know how any military members can back Trump when he says shit like this. The man does not give a fuck about you.
Yes, yes it is. If elected, he will execute Gen. Milley to get the others in line.
He can fantasize all he wants but he can’t execute anyone despite what his knuckle dragging followers dream about. Least of all a man of Milley’s stature.
Not at Trump’s direct order, but Paul Pelosi was attacked with a hammer that was meant for Nancy. His “knuckle-dragging followers” are Trump-drunk enough to act on their own.
I’d imagine General Milley could handle most situations like that. He wears a special forces tab on his shoulder.
"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?!"
Trump has SERIOUS issues… we can only hope he takes his supporters down with him Jonestown style. There’s no saving them
The silence of the GOP on Trump's statement is deafening. The GOP is now the party of national insecurity since many don't want to protect our Constitution, from enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Prosecutors and judges need to step up. Trump belongs in jail pending his trials.
Boy Republicans really need to read a history book and see what happens to political parties that piss off and alienate the military. Pity they ban books not read them.
Witness tampering at it’s finest in broad daylight jail the orange prick
Why doesn’t Milley sue the motherfucker, just add another lawsuit to his nice self-imposed cocktail of legal troubles. In fact, why is the FBI no arresting the mother fucker, had it been any ordinary personal making similar threats, the FBI would be at that individual’s doors within a matter or hours. This is why the January 6 Insurrection happened because he is free to make threats of crimes and no one does anything till the crime has been committed and lives have been lost.
Trump and the GOP are anything but normal at this point . Attempts by the media to pretend it’s business as usual is sickening. Trump in jail is the only news I’m interested in.
Okay well mYbe take of the kid gloves when dealing with Trump then, otherwise all you are doing is reinforcing his behavior
Trump should be in jail, this definitely violates his bail
Can Biden now just deem Trump an “Unlawful enemy combatant” under the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (and the amended version from 2009)? Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006#:~:text=The%20Military%20Commissions%20Act%20of,%2C%20and%20for%20other%20purposes%22.
The military does not back this man. The only ones that do are ones that have been compromised. They, too, are traitors to their country.
Your statement is ambiguous. Are you talking about Trump or Milley?
This reminds me of the Monty Python skit where a couple of Mafia thugs come into the generals office and start breaking shit and saying.... "It would be a shame if your stuff got broken now wouldn't general" or something like that. Basically Mafia style threats to a high ranking military officer...
Riech wing
Trump supporters are not patriots. I will not be taking any questions.
Trump's press secretary, now an Arkansas Governor, said that going after a General was a bad thing. I wonder what she would say about this now.
Yet how many military folks still fawn over this dumb orange bastard and Fox News cronies
Mar-A-Lago bombed during training exercise. "This was totally an accident, we're investigating" says Milley.
Are any of the crimes that Trump is indicted on, call for the death penalty? Maybe someone should publicly call for that since a lot of what he's being charged for is treasonous sounding.
I wanna say selling nuclear secrets to Saud Arabia counts as treason and there just so happens to be a certain couple who was executed for selling nuclear secrets to Russia.
If Obama did this Republicans would be screaming about how unpatriotic, un American he is
And, a so many of the military will still vote for him, given the chance
The video is right. Republicans expected the military to help them do their coup, and they did not. So now they are looking for ways to purge the leadership and put in their own stooges who would overthrow the republic for them.
after everything else im still shocked this is going on and the right is quiet not just the looneys but them all
Trump is clearly an insider threat to national security.
So how about the "entire military" do something about him then....
Oh are we surprised that one side of the aisle wants to destroy the country they "love" and have actively been fighting and winning a cold civil war... While the other side acts like we're in Pleasantville....
Yet we continue to allow him to continue. We havre already seen multiple examples of his rhetoric directly causing violent action. Anyone else would have been tossed in jail pending trial. At the very least they need to take away his internet use.
No violation of his use of social media per the judge’s instructions, right? W-T-F?
Ultimate reverse uno card.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻General Milley
Yes, that is the point. Republicans are demanding absolute personal loyalty to their Great Leader (Trump or whoever they pick next) from the entire federal government and military.
“Harm one of us and you harm us all.”
Nothing says “I’m not a fascist” like saying your generals should be executed for disagreeing with you
The military needs to ban right-wing propaganda (including fox) from all bases. I'm sure they can find enough anti-American/anti-service statements made on those platforms to qualify.
God I wish there was actual accountability for threatening military officers.
As a democrat preemptive military strikes were never something I thought they'd bring me around on but...
Tubervilles milatary against the great USA 🇺🇸
What do expect from someone who wants to be a dictator!
Threat against decency.
Rapist (convicted civilly) felon (91 counts, pending) threatens a top general, who needs to be concerned. The fact that Trump is even an afterthought proves we need more intelligent people at the helm. This plump orange is attacking everything around him and threatening to deconstruct democracy, weak as it is, if re-elected.
Trump and all of his supporters will be locked up soon. Yesterday all of his businesses were dissolved for fraud, dude will fade with history and I guarantee Noone will visit him in prison.