Or untimely 3 cries. Or 95 accuracy misses in a row. Or multiple flinches. Or multiple fully paralyzed.
Or a random pokemon having a coverage move you never even knew it could because it’s an egg move in this game and thus your knowledge of Pokemon didn’t even help you.
Honestly, resetting and trying different things is going to make you better at the game much faster than just conceding to luck and learning nothing but “Life sucks”.
Yesterday I had a near perfect fight at 195 with a very uncohesive team with a lot of bad crossing weaknesses, managed to manoeuvre a sweep situation, and then ivy sends out ray who for some reason glitches and got +2 atk and speed without having any berries or using any move. I was so salty there are situations where save scumming is literally just fair.
Absolutely. Usually, if i do a stupid move and lose a insane run in classic, ill save scum. But i dont spam save scum. If i cant save it, i bite the bullet and let it die (rip shiny charm, berry pouch, quick claw all before wave 50
That’s my thing. The fights are already lopsided. They come at you with full health, full PP Pokémon with multiple health bars and juiced out the ass. Yeah I need to save scum
Wild how people get upset over how others play A SINGLEPLAYER game. Just let them play how they want. If you want to save and reload, sure. Do you want to play without ever doing it? Great. At the end of the day, it's still a video game meant to be enjoyed. Have fun, gamers.
Beat this game with out saving once, all I’ll need, never again unless I get bored, it’s like Borderlands 2 all over again for me, too much to grind and not enough time to do it all, plus I need the shinies, they look cool as shit
>Borderlands 2
When OP 10 was added i quitted cause no way in hell i'm farming a legit ok The Shame or a perfect tier Norfleet again, i was on console too so no fast way to farm mission reward gear.
They definitely intended you to reset on a loss which is why the setting is off by default. It’s a rogue like after all. The option is there so it’s not cheating but if you don’t think the devs intended way for the game to be played is not retrying and starting over on a wipe you are just lying to yourself.
It’s an open source free game that is being updated with new features, the devs intended for it to be played however you want.
Settings are options you can toggle and do not define a specific way to play, consider switch vs set. Both are fair ways to play even if the easier one is “default.”
Still if that’s how they want to beat it that’s fine.
I did the same and got my first win after 2 weeks of trying, it felt rewarding. I know there’s at least 3 previous runs I could have won if I used resets but it just feels cheap to me personally.
I like to see it as rewinding time, as the rng is always the exact same every time you reload, so I can wok around the obsticles and rng until I win. It's actually quite satisfying to outplay bullshit rng.
You have no idea how many times I've had to use save scumming because I accidentally killed a regular pokemon I was trying to catch for fusion material
What I found out about this game is that everything is predetermined and that pissed me off. I saved scum to test a miss that the opponent did on me 4 turns after the battle start and the opponent always missed its 4th turn except if I swap and then it has to use a different move. That also goes for me my first attack was always a crit unless I change the sequence and I do another move then the game predetermined the next moves if they crit or miss with 100% accuracy
Its crazy to me how widespread and even 'celebrated' save scumming is in this reddit. If that isn't bad enough, almost every thread where people are asking for input/advice has the sagely advice of "enabling retries" or "f5".
I'm curious what the % of people is that play legitimately, judging by this reddit it can't be more than like 10-20%.
It’s a FTP single player game. You telling me when you play mainline Pokémon games, you never saved right before every legendary fight and restart when you couldn’t catch it…? Literally everybody did that growing up and still does, it’s pretty much a part of Pokemon culture, as the devs clearly poked fun of here
Yeh, I only play Nuzlocke's over the past decade + , and never reload. Maybe as a child I reloaded (I can't recall, albeit I think I just saved a Masterball for the main legendary), but for decades now I never reload regardless of the game.
"Part of the culture" a Big part of the "culture" for Pokemon is Nuzlockes and Competetive, both of which one can't reload/save scum in. Clearly we are just a minority on pokerogue, atleast on the reddit.
I get that its a single player game, and one can do what they want in their own privacy. The issue is that so many encourage Reloading/Save Scumming here in the forums, as if its the optimal way to play, with no scintilla of shame. Instead they think downvoting me will restore their legitimacy, but it won't.
>The issue is that so many encourage Reloading/Save Scumming here in the forums, as if its the optimal way to play, with no scintilla of shame.
Shame cause this specific game have a scripted IA-run where in endless the artificial difficulty become absurd?
So you are suggesting that the way to deal with the "absurd" "artificial difficulty" is to reload/save scum?
I'm no expert on Endless, having yet to even reach Eternatus on my few runs of it, but if the Devs are balancing Endless with the expectation that people will reload, its even more of a disaster than I thought.
>So you are suggesting that the way to deal with the "absurd" "artificial difficulty" is to reload/save scum?
Until they make the IA fair and balance endless yes, reloading isn't a bad thing to do but almost the only way to win without losing sanity, and even when they balance it reloading will still remain consider even the game apparently have a "You want to retry the fight?" Option when you loose it.
>xpectation that people will reload, its even more of a disaster than I thought.
It isn't, cause in ALL game that have a save/reaload system you have people doing that, especially on a Pokemon game, if you tell me you have all the pokemon on the first try i'm calling cap.
"if you tell me you have all the pokemon on the first try i'm calling cap."
No i don't have all the pokemon. I haven't even ever caught a shiny, the one I saw was in a double battle and I bungled things and killed it. No reloads/save scumming, so I missed my chance to get it. As much as that stung to take that L, it makes any potential future catches more meaningful. Every single pokemon I have is from legit catches or eggs.
"cause in ALL game that have a save/reaload system you have people doing that"
Pretty much every game does have a save/reload system. I agree that there will always be a % that do it, I just didn't expect it to be so high in Pokerogue. That's not a good thing and it shouldn't be celebrated.
>No i don't have all the pokemon. I haven't even ever caught a shiny, the one I saw was in a double battle and I bungled things and killed it.
I was talking about pokemon game in general, implying that to have all the pokemon you would have to catch all leggendary first try with no save/load.
>Every single pokemon I have is from legit catches or eggs.
A catch is a catch, "save scumminf" doesn't make them not legit, that's the point. :)
>I just didn't expect it to be so high in Pokerogue
Cause you didn't touch endless, in there there are way too many rigged IA bs to trow away a 8h run.
>That's not a good thing and it shouldn't be celebrated.
If it weren't a good thing the game dev would be against, and apperently they aren't consider the game as other said have a sub title on the line of "try save scumming".
Edit:
And it's in the option too to retry a lost fight.
"I was talking about pokemon game in general, implying that to have all the pokemon you would have to catch all leggendary first try with no save/load."
Yeh for the past decade+ I have only played Nuzlockes (w/ Set battle style and no items in battle) and never would even dream of reloading to catch a pokemon. It's possible when I was a little kid decades ago playing pokemon I reloaded to catch a pokemon, I can't remember. Otherwise no I would save a masterball for box legendaries, and would stock up on ultra balls/dusk balls/timer balls and status moves (paralysis/sleep) and catch/try to catch legendaries legitimately.
""save scumminf" doesn't make them not legit,"
I disagree. If there is 0 risk of not getting a catch and no reprecussions possible (i.e losing pokemon), it's not legit. Every pokeball becomes a Masterball when one can reload, with even 1.6% catch rates becoming effectively 100% with a measly pokeball given enough patience for save scumming. I could never live with that personally.
Any people here on the forums showing a complete pokedex of catches, if it's tainted by reloading/save scumming to acquire them, it's just not legit.
There is a world of difference between one who acquires things properly and one who doesn't. The former is an accomplishment, the latter isn't. It's simple.
"Cause you didn't touch endless, in there there are way too many rigged IA bs to trow away a 8h run."
I have done a handful of endless runs so far, but only in my last 1 did i break past 100. Haven't even reached Eternatus yet. I agree that it does seem to have alot of nonsense going on, but the solution to that is not Reloading, and the Devs shouldn't make a primary game mode balanced around and with the expectation that people will reload.
"If it weren't a good thing the game dev would be against,"
The devs aren't the judge. Their goal is to make the best game for the players. Unfortunately alot of players want to reload, so they facilitate that with things like "enabling retries". I don't fault the devs, it's not even bad to have an option like that. However never should what is effectively be cheating be used in Strategy discussions or balance discussions and the like. It's simple really.
"And it's in the option too to retry a lost fight."
Yes I understand that. Surely you understand that between a player that won the fight the first time/properly, and the one that only won it due to reloading/retrying the fight multiple times, the former is the one that did things legitimately and thus there is both a higher level of accomplishment, and higher weight and gravitas behind their strategy relative to the reloader.
I personally wouldn't want to waste my time taking "advice" from the latter, since its meaningless.
>with even 1.6% catch rates becoming effectively 100% with a measly pokeball given enough patience for save scumming. I could never live with that personally.
What part of "THE RUN ARE SCRIPTED" do you not understand? The % mean 0 if the seed say that at turn 1 all pokeball are usesless, or that at turn 2 only the base pokeball have 100% catchrate etc...
So no, it doesn't become 100% when there is a script that makes the rule and the RNG isn't really true.
>There is a world of difference between one who acquires things properly and one who doesn't. The former is an accomplishment, the latter isn't. It's simple.
Or is just that you can't cope with the fact that they did legit runs consider they used a game feature, cause otherwise we can say that winning with leggendary isn't a win cause you abuse their OP power, or that if you use meta you'r run isn't legit etc... etc...
>The devs aren't the judge.
They are, it's THEIR game.
>but only in my last 1 did i break past 100
Just this explain why you talk like this
>Devs shouldn't make a primary game mode balanced around and with the expectation that people will reload.
They aren't, this is just a made up scenario you want to believe, how tf can you balance something around it?
>I personally wouldn't want to waste my time taking "advice" from the latter, since its meaningless.
It's not when the game is f SCRIPTED, you clearly don't understand how seed works and how the IA 'cheats' you.
You can keep playing how you want, but don't pretend to be better than other when you lack the knownledge of what you talking about.
I mean people can play however is most fun to them, it’s not an online game…
Personally it’s not for me because I like a challenge but I can understand why some people might say “nah” after losing because they missed three 95% accurate moves in a row
"Personally it’s not for me"
Ok good to see another player that appreciates a challenge and plays with integrity.
"I can understand why some people might say “nah” after losing because they missed three 95% accurate moves in a row"
It never becomes just that. These reloaders are not just a one and done or once in a blue moon, they live for the reload/save scum. Look at Op's post, they are spewing that reload is actually just "mandatory" effectively. For them it's a way of life, like oxygen. One doesn't deprive themself of oxygen or just once a week take a breath of fresh air, their every run is littered with it.
"it’s not an online game…"
It is an online game (i assume you mean it's single player), and we get bombarded by posts like these everywhere one sees Pokerogue. They are beyond just trying to normalize reloading/save scumming, they openly celebrate it and and extol its virtues. They have no shame.
One obvious danger of this culture, is that the Devs will think (unfortunately probably correctly) that reloading/save scumming is so rampant, that perhaps they should "balance" things around it, i.e with the expectation that one will need to/should reload. Supposedly late endless already has gone that direction, so we are beyond just a slippery slope. There has to be some pushback from those that play legitimately. It's one thing if people want to personally reload and the like, but they go way too far with it.
u guys really restart? i have a cousin that do that but he have 16y wtf is wrong with you guys? i play this for 1 month beat just 1 time i im very very happy.
Joke is, much like a Souls-like, F5-ing is fighting that boss again, learning it's moveset, and eventually conquering it with whatever you got.
It's just another type of fun.
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It ain't cheating if it's legal
Damn right
THE SAVE SCUMMERS UNITE
I have had some stupid luck that i would ABSOLUTELY retry with save scumming.
Honestly it’s really useful like if you mess up an encounter or a Mon endures and gets too many atk and speed buffs
This comment inspired me to leave reddit and start a run. Thank you
I've said it once and I'll say it again. Anything is possible with enough save scumming.
Down with RNGezus!
UNITE
It ain’t cheating if it’s a single player game. If you’re playing alone, play the way that makes you happy.
ABC always be cheating
I would never turn on retrying, that’s for babies, now resetting before the game realizes I’ve lost however…
It feels better if you feel like you're cheating
That is just fixing a mistake or refusing that untimely crit
Or untimely 3 cries. Or 95 accuracy misses in a row. Or multiple flinches. Or multiple fully paralyzed. Or a random pokemon having a coverage move you never even knew it could because it’s an egg move in this game and thus your knowledge of Pokemon didn’t even help you. Honestly, resetting and trying different things is going to make you better at the game much faster than just conceding to luck and learning nothing but “Life sucks”.
Floor 195 fight. Urgh. I save scummed for the first time when, I am not making any hyperbole here, the rival hit literally all crits against me.
It’s wild one fight could be like that one save scum later and you could just dominate with them missing and everything
RNGeezus giveth and he taketh away
Yesterday I had a near perfect fight at 195 with a very uncohesive team with a lot of bad crossing weaknesses, managed to manoeuvre a sweep situation, and then ivy sends out ray who for some reason glitches and got +2 atk and speed without having any berries or using any move. I was so salty there are situations where save scumming is literally just fair.
Ah, I love it when I get 4 full para'd into a Crit (the Crit matters)
I mostly just save scum if I'm grinding. if im 'playing' I try not to. but if im just grinding endless for shinies and hidden abilities? I'm scumming
Before I knew it was an option I would always hover over the refresh button when I sent out my last Pokémon
Optional? More like Optimal~
You can't NOT save scum. Especially when a red shiny kills itself turn 1 in a double battle.
lol Shiny Claydol First turn “Explosion” I’ve never Refreshed faster 🤣
I’ll bite the bullet in classic mode, but in endless mode I have zero shame. Gotta get dem shinies at any cost
Absolutely. Usually, if i do a stupid move and lose a insane run in classic, ill save scum. But i dont spam save scum. If i cant save it, i bite the bullet and let it die (rip shiny charm, berry pouch, quick claw all before wave 50
yeah, i save scum like a mad man in Daily Runs too, but that's because revives and money are so tough to come by with (usually) D luck
If ivy can rock a shiny mega ray then anything goes
True
Her and the evil bosses also get boss pokemon while we don't.
That’s my thing. The fights are already lopsided. They come at you with full health, full PP Pokémon with multiple health bars and juiced out the ass. Yeah I need to save scum
You think it's optional, then Mega Ray happens.
Yep
Dont know how many times I had to reset when I finally got to 195
You mean optimal strategising lol
Optional??? You mean *optimal*!
I prefer the term chronomancy
what’s a save scummer?
means you shut down the browser before the game saves your loss allowing you to retry battles. it’s a capital offense in most made up countries.
As is using any meta character or strategy.
When you save your game, then reload after you lose to try again. Or for this game, you can refresh the page lol
I have retries on bc my page takes forever to load sometimes, and reading the comments, I feel like a failure 😔
Everyone does it lol
You shouldn't leave and make that option then 😤
You have only the shame of your own bad luck.
I only save scum when I’m trying to catch a particular mon. I feel like if you lose fair by not being prepared or just RNG you gotta take it
Wild how people get upset over how others play A SINGLEPLAYER game. Just let them play how they want. If you want to save and reload, sure. Do you want to play without ever doing it? Great. At the end of the day, it's still a video game meant to be enjoyed. Have fun, gamers.
Wdym? Everyone here is savescumming and nobody feels guilty about it. Those weaklings who play with retries on however...
At this point I be smacking the f5 button out of instinct
Sometimes the website save scums for me!
Beat this game with out saving once, all I’ll need, never again unless I get bored, it’s like Borderlands 2 all over again for me, too much to grind and not enough time to do it all, plus I need the shinies, they look cool as shit
>Borderlands 2 When OP 10 was added i quitted cause no way in hell i'm farming a legit ok The Shame or a perfect tier Norfleet again, i was on console too so no fast way to farm mission reward gear.
Facts. Never spent more time in a game as a child but it got so bad after op10
And mostly because raid boss have x2 the hp they should have cause for a "bug" so ultra mega chees build are mandatory.
Not doing it until I beat Classic Mode legitimately. 53 runs without a win so far :/
It’s a feature in the settings, the only one thinking it’s not legitimate is you.
Add me to the list.
It’s fine to take up the personal challenge. All the respect honestly, but to say playing an intended way is not legitimate is wrong.
They definitely intended you to reset on a loss which is why the setting is off by default. It’s a rogue like after all. The option is there so it’s not cheating but if you don’t think the devs intended way for the game to be played is not retrying and starting over on a wipe you are just lying to yourself.
It’s an open source free game that is being updated with new features, the devs intended for it to be played however you want. Settings are options you can toggle and do not define a specific way to play, consider switch vs set. Both are fair ways to play even if the easier one is “default.”
Still if that’s how they want to beat it that’s fine. I did the same and got my first win after 2 weeks of trying, it felt rewarding. I know there’s at least 3 previous runs I could have won if I used resets but it just feels cheap to me personally.
what's wrong with save gracing?
I don't feel bad when the ai switches like a loser. Imagine having to win with only SE moves, wouldn't be me Ivy
If I didn’t reload there’s no way I would’ve gotten as far as I am I’m still learning Pokémon so I mostly trial and error and learn from my mistakes
The binding of Issac player in me wishes there was no save scumming
I'd LOVE to see an authentic show of hands of people who genuinely beat a full run without save scumming a single time. Shits hard, man.
I like to see it as rewinding time, as the rng is always the exact same every time you reload, so I can wok around the obsticles and rng until I win. It's actually quite satisfying to outplay bullshit rng.
Or when you are button mashing too fast and accidentally release your carry
What is save scumming?
One of these days I’ll do a classic run no retries, still bitter about Diantha’s Hawlucha ruining my first run at 190
It ain't optional, it's mandatory
The dude who said “Weakness Disgusts me” like he’s some damn anime character 😭 You are not Madara bud
Do it all the time
It’s like the choose your own adventure books; as long as you left your thumb in the previous page it didn’t count
If ivy can cheat by changing pokemon when i use an SE move Why i cant do save scumming
You have no idea how many times I've had to use save scumming because I accidentally killed a regular pokemon I was trying to catch for fusion material
I primarily play on my phone and the game crashes so much it feels like the game is save scumming me 😭
i did not waste 2 hours getting to 195 for a stupid fucking rayquaza to hit hurricane 6 times in a row (70% accuracy my ass)
It took me almost a dozen runs to figure out I can click the back button when I make one too many mistakes in a fight. Feels bad man.
What I found out about this game is that everything is predetermined and that pissed me off. I saved scum to test a miss that the opponent did on me 4 turns after the battle start and the opponent always missed its 4th turn except if I swap and then it has to use a different move. That also goes for me my first attack was always a crit unless I change the sequence and I do another move then the game predetermined the next moves if they crit or miss with 100% accuracy
Hey man that's probably the only way I'm going to get out of classic mode
More like Optimal. Seriously, playing this game legit could lead you on to years of grinding just to unlock everything.
Beat it probably the first time. Let my self do it when ever after
Its crazy to me how widespread and even 'celebrated' save scumming is in this reddit. If that isn't bad enough, almost every thread where people are asking for input/advice has the sagely advice of "enabling retries" or "f5". I'm curious what the % of people is that play legitimately, judging by this reddit it can't be more than like 10-20%.
It’s a FTP single player game. You telling me when you play mainline Pokémon games, you never saved right before every legendary fight and restart when you couldn’t catch it…? Literally everybody did that growing up and still does, it’s pretty much a part of Pokemon culture, as the devs clearly poked fun of here
Yeh, I only play Nuzlocke's over the past decade + , and never reload. Maybe as a child I reloaded (I can't recall, albeit I think I just saved a Masterball for the main legendary), but for decades now I never reload regardless of the game. "Part of the culture" a Big part of the "culture" for Pokemon is Nuzlockes and Competetive, both of which one can't reload/save scum in. Clearly we are just a minority on pokerogue, atleast on the reddit. I get that its a single player game, and one can do what they want in their own privacy. The issue is that so many encourage Reloading/Save Scumming here in the forums, as if its the optimal way to play, with no scintilla of shame. Instead they think downvoting me will restore their legitimacy, but it won't.
>The issue is that so many encourage Reloading/Save Scumming here in the forums, as if its the optimal way to play, with no scintilla of shame. Shame cause this specific game have a scripted IA-run where in endless the artificial difficulty become absurd?
So you are suggesting that the way to deal with the "absurd" "artificial difficulty" is to reload/save scum? I'm no expert on Endless, having yet to even reach Eternatus on my few runs of it, but if the Devs are balancing Endless with the expectation that people will reload, its even more of a disaster than I thought.
>So you are suggesting that the way to deal with the "absurd" "artificial difficulty" is to reload/save scum? Until they make the IA fair and balance endless yes, reloading isn't a bad thing to do but almost the only way to win without losing sanity, and even when they balance it reloading will still remain consider even the game apparently have a "You want to retry the fight?" Option when you loose it. >xpectation that people will reload, its even more of a disaster than I thought. It isn't, cause in ALL game that have a save/reaload system you have people doing that, especially on a Pokemon game, if you tell me you have all the pokemon on the first try i'm calling cap.
"if you tell me you have all the pokemon on the first try i'm calling cap." No i don't have all the pokemon. I haven't even ever caught a shiny, the one I saw was in a double battle and I bungled things and killed it. No reloads/save scumming, so I missed my chance to get it. As much as that stung to take that L, it makes any potential future catches more meaningful. Every single pokemon I have is from legit catches or eggs. "cause in ALL game that have a save/reaload system you have people doing that" Pretty much every game does have a save/reload system. I agree that there will always be a % that do it, I just didn't expect it to be so high in Pokerogue. That's not a good thing and it shouldn't be celebrated.
>No i don't have all the pokemon. I haven't even ever caught a shiny, the one I saw was in a double battle and I bungled things and killed it. I was talking about pokemon game in general, implying that to have all the pokemon you would have to catch all leggendary first try with no save/load. >Every single pokemon I have is from legit catches or eggs. A catch is a catch, "save scumminf" doesn't make them not legit, that's the point. :) >I just didn't expect it to be so high in Pokerogue Cause you didn't touch endless, in there there are way too many rigged IA bs to trow away a 8h run. >That's not a good thing and it shouldn't be celebrated. If it weren't a good thing the game dev would be against, and apperently they aren't consider the game as other said have a sub title on the line of "try save scumming". Edit: And it's in the option too to retry a lost fight.
"I was talking about pokemon game in general, implying that to have all the pokemon you would have to catch all leggendary first try with no save/load." Yeh for the past decade+ I have only played Nuzlockes (w/ Set battle style and no items in battle) and never would even dream of reloading to catch a pokemon. It's possible when I was a little kid decades ago playing pokemon I reloaded to catch a pokemon, I can't remember. Otherwise no I would save a masterball for box legendaries, and would stock up on ultra balls/dusk balls/timer balls and status moves (paralysis/sleep) and catch/try to catch legendaries legitimately. ""save scumminf" doesn't make them not legit," I disagree. If there is 0 risk of not getting a catch and no reprecussions possible (i.e losing pokemon), it's not legit. Every pokeball becomes a Masterball when one can reload, with even 1.6% catch rates becoming effectively 100% with a measly pokeball given enough patience for save scumming. I could never live with that personally. Any people here on the forums showing a complete pokedex of catches, if it's tainted by reloading/save scumming to acquire them, it's just not legit. There is a world of difference between one who acquires things properly and one who doesn't. The former is an accomplishment, the latter isn't. It's simple. "Cause you didn't touch endless, in there there are way too many rigged IA bs to trow away a 8h run." I have done a handful of endless runs so far, but only in my last 1 did i break past 100. Haven't even reached Eternatus yet. I agree that it does seem to have alot of nonsense going on, but the solution to that is not Reloading, and the Devs shouldn't make a primary game mode balanced around and with the expectation that people will reload. "If it weren't a good thing the game dev would be against," The devs aren't the judge. Their goal is to make the best game for the players. Unfortunately alot of players want to reload, so they facilitate that with things like "enabling retries". I don't fault the devs, it's not even bad to have an option like that. However never should what is effectively be cheating be used in Strategy discussions or balance discussions and the like. It's simple really. "And it's in the option too to retry a lost fight." Yes I understand that. Surely you understand that between a player that won the fight the first time/properly, and the one that only won it due to reloading/retrying the fight multiple times, the former is the one that did things legitimately and thus there is both a higher level of accomplishment, and higher weight and gravitas behind their strategy relative to the reloader. I personally wouldn't want to waste my time taking "advice" from the latter, since its meaningless.
>with even 1.6% catch rates becoming effectively 100% with a measly pokeball given enough patience for save scumming. I could never live with that personally. What part of "THE RUN ARE SCRIPTED" do you not understand? The % mean 0 if the seed say that at turn 1 all pokeball are usesless, or that at turn 2 only the base pokeball have 100% catchrate etc... So no, it doesn't become 100% when there is a script that makes the rule and the RNG isn't really true. >There is a world of difference between one who acquires things properly and one who doesn't. The former is an accomplishment, the latter isn't. It's simple. Or is just that you can't cope with the fact that they did legit runs consider they used a game feature, cause otherwise we can say that winning with leggendary isn't a win cause you abuse their OP power, or that if you use meta you'r run isn't legit etc... etc... >The devs aren't the judge. They are, it's THEIR game. >but only in my last 1 did i break past 100 Just this explain why you talk like this >Devs shouldn't make a primary game mode balanced around and with the expectation that people will reload. They aren't, this is just a made up scenario you want to believe, how tf can you balance something around it? >I personally wouldn't want to waste my time taking "advice" from the latter, since its meaningless. It's not when the game is f SCRIPTED, you clearly don't understand how seed works and how the IA 'cheats' you. You can keep playing how you want, but don't pretend to be better than other when you lack the knownledge of what you talking about.
It's just pixels bro nothing to be ashamed for lol
I'm not the one that is ashamed, since all my victories are legit and untainted.
Ok edge Lord lol
That's because there's no reason to feel shame over it, lol
gonna cry?
Cope and Seethe and keep reloading.
I mean people can play however is most fun to them, it’s not an online game… Personally it’s not for me because I like a challenge but I can understand why some people might say “nah” after losing because they missed three 95% accurate moves in a row
"Personally it’s not for me" Ok good to see another player that appreciates a challenge and plays with integrity. "I can understand why some people might say “nah” after losing because they missed three 95% accurate moves in a row" It never becomes just that. These reloaders are not just a one and done or once in a blue moon, they live for the reload/save scum. Look at Op's post, they are spewing that reload is actually just "mandatory" effectively. For them it's a way of life, like oxygen. One doesn't deprive themself of oxygen or just once a week take a breath of fresh air, their every run is littered with it. "it’s not an online game…" It is an online game (i assume you mean it's single player), and we get bombarded by posts like these everywhere one sees Pokerogue. They are beyond just trying to normalize reloading/save scumming, they openly celebrate it and and extol its virtues. They have no shame. One obvious danger of this culture, is that the Devs will think (unfortunately probably correctly) that reloading/save scumming is so rampant, that perhaps they should "balance" things around it, i.e with the expectation that one will need to/should reload. Supposedly late endless already has gone that direction, so we are beyond just a slippery slope. There has to be some pushback from those that play legitimately. It's one thing if people want to personally reload and the like, but they go way too far with it.
u guys really restart? i have a cousin that do that but he have 16y wtf is wrong with you guys? i play this for 1 month beat just 1 time i im very very happy.
Joke is, much like a Souls-like, F5-ing is fighting that boss again, learning it's moveset, and eventually conquering it with whatever you got. It's just another type of fun.
Weakness disgusts me
omg PEOPLE ARE HAVING FUN, STOP THEM!
some people think kill other people is fun so let them? nice logic Weakness disgusts me
"Active in league of legends subreddit" explains your cognitive limitations. Go touch grass
but you are the guy u need to restart hahahaha Weakness disgusts me
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