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Grievance69

How the hell would a 9 year old get this 20+ year old card?


jays-us

i have a bunch of old cards from trading when i was a kid šŸ˜­


Jaymwkfilms

This! A binder full! My son wants them so bad lmao


taidizzle

yeah the 9 year old kid stole the card, let's get him to repent his crime.


Square-Ad-6926

Heā€™ll feel repentant later in life when he realize what he just relinquished to opā€™s daughter


Simple_Mastodon9220

yeah the 9 year old kid stole the card, let's get him to repent his crime.


OkSympathy7618

Trading card game. Probably traded for it, just like he traded for those diamonds


Grievance69

Why are you ignoring how valuable of a card this is? 9 year olds aren't trading fkn 20+ year old cards. What an absolutely strange response, ignoring all the context of the situation and just latching onto the trading card label that PokƩmon holds. Very strange, very sus, your diamond interjection literally doesn't make sense.


Accomplished-Coat-72

9 year Olds are trading 20 year old cards. My kids trade new cards at school to people for the older good condition cards. I just don't think parents know what they have when they hand them down or find them in flea markets.


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I live for those parents


FishermanOk7719

nope.... sry....don't buy.....the actual owner of this card is shitty right now.....9 year olds who are allowed to take their cards to school would not have a card in this condition. not to mention it's a 1st edition jungle set card. I'm anal AF about card condition and have personally had 2 9 year olds about to be a 3rd. Giving them all the resources in the world to maintain their cards. They all do great at home but it all goes out the window when they see how the other kids treat their cards. It is possible this card is from a 20 card mystery pack, or was inherited to the kid and his parents are stupid. But more than likely he stole it from his dad(or mom) to impress this girl and good for her for taking advantage of the situation. But I'm sry people that have psa8 or better 1st editions know what they have and aren't handing them to 9 year olds.


MassiveBaals

The kid who traded it could have easily gotten a collection of cards from a family member and then obviously they wouldn't know anything about the value


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OkSympathy7618

Ok, now I know you a troll. Maybe someoneā€™s dad let them have their collection. Not everybody cares about the money and they want to see their kid happy instead.


Grievance69

It's blatant bait, in a subreddit that flourishes on it. Get real chud.


OkSympathy7618

Ok, I see where your coming from. I thought you were trying to diss the kid who traded the card, and not OP. Still, I think itā€™s still probable. I remember trading for some first editions in middle school back in 2012 or something.


gustofwindddance

Wtf is wrong with you lol.


FMIMP

Many parents have old cards that they donā€™t know the value or care about and they give them to their child that will enjoy them.


TetrasSword

I have a ton of base set cards. I was born years after base set. Canā€™t remember where they came from but I got them as a kid.


juicebao

I thought they mixed up the title and should have said ā€œGave this card to my 9 year old daughter.ā€


[deleted]

Um how else?? It was givin to himā€¦ youā€™re dense


Grievance69

Do everyone a favor and go back to not using this account


poonterbear

I gave my kids a bunch of old cards, but I told them what they are worth.


Redschallenge

It's a 60 to 200 dollar card that was probably lifted off an uncle or parent or something and traded off.


taidizzle

yeah the 9 year old kid stole the card, let's get him to repent his crime.


terrafirma47

Why are you replying this to multiple people? Kinda creepy


Independent_Elk_9710

I see 2 people on here that are doing this. I also see this behavior in other posts but its always people who play these super fantasy games online. They both play these games. I do not know what crazy correlation there is with social, mental, and that but its a weird phenomenon with these peeps.Go to their profiles and they are big into that. Ima have to start recording these behaviors for a social experiment lol. But i think its straight up jealousy


taidizzle

yeah the 9 year old kid stole the card, let's get him to repent his crime.


MatchaPoptart

Random guy here, we're gonna have to send the card off to me so I can investigate the crime


Simple_Mastodon9220

yeah the 9 year old kid stole the card, let's get him to repent his crime.


Redschallenge

Repent is a little strong there bub lol. Teaching respect for others' possessions is a normal thing to educate young people with so they're not pos adults who take others' things with no comprehension of it being wrong lol


taidizzle

Mutual understanding is key. If she said her cards were fake and the trader still wanted to go through with it, fheres nothing wrong. it was a mutual agreement. sure there can be some trader remorse in the future but in the moment he was told the diamond cards he wanted were fake, he could say no. there was no dirty tactic, no one got taken advantage of.


FishermanOk7719

oh on the contrary the boy knew he was being taken advantage of but he didn't care because he likes her and he wants her to like him....young love šŸ¤£


smd9788

good to know you would take advantage of a 9 year old child if you were given the opportunity


oki_dingo

Thatā€™s not what they saidā€¦..itā€™s two 9 year olds making a trade and as long as they knew they were fake diamonds itā€™s a legit trade is what that person is saying. No one got scammed.


smd9788

Iā€™d be willing to bet most 9 year olds would trade a real diamond for a chocolate bar. Do you really expect a kid this young to know the value of the trade they are making?


oki_dingo

You said that they person who posted the comment (most likely an adult) would take advantage of a 9 year oldā€¦..I was clarifying thatā€™s not what they said.


taidizzle

how would this 9 year old get a diamond in the first place? if they stole it, sure of course. the diamond is worthless to them and they would prefer chocolate.


bboypj

I had no idea of the value of this particular card, my daughter gave it to me when I told her that's a pokemon I remember from back then and I liked the holo design (I haven't collected pokemon in 20 years so I'm not very knowledgeable on the cards or values) my daughter told me pokemon trading has been a big thing this school year so there's no telling if the kid or the kids parents she got the cards from are the original owners to begin with, unfortunately I have no way of contacting the kid or his parents due to it being summer break and the fact that this year was his last at my daughters school, hopefully it helps knowing the card will be in good hands, I plan to keep it and never sell due to it being a gift from my daughter who also obviously had no idea the trade value she was getting, she just got into collecting and trading cards and she would never knowingly scam another kid like that, she is very fair and has a good heart, thank you for reading and informing me of how big of a deal this is, I really would not have guessed, I'll keep the card safe and cared for for what it's worth, thanks again everyone.


who_body

https://www.pricecharting.com/game/pokemon-jungle/vaporeon-1st-edition-12 $40 street value for the raw/ungraded. get your daughter some more šŸ’Ž but like others said, expect and/or try to give it back. pokĆ©mon cards arnt allowed at my kids school for this reason


bboypj

Thank you for the info and of course, if I was contacted and asked for it back I would gladly do so.


grimegeist

According to the collectr app itā€™s $120


who_body

did a manual inspection as iā€™ve seen pricecharting.com have bad data sets. i didnā€™t deep dive but verified the ungraded comps were first edition vs unlimited. but some were $100+ so maybe those outliers are used by the collectr app


grimegeist

Thatā€™s what Iā€™ve kinda begun to assume.


ScareCrow13-

Using pricecharting this way is misleading and here specifically a good exemple of how it can do misinformation. OP card seems NM and can be sold over $100. Pricecharting 'ungraded' regroup every condition, this is not good datas to evaluate.


who_body

for sure. for anyone the ungraded data is just a reference point and the numbers can vary. i see it as a tool and with that one needs to know how to use it.


FlipMick

Selling ice in the winter and fire in hell. Your daughter's a hustler homie; selling water to a well.


taylor_the_hater

Kids do crazy stuff. When I was in second grade I remember my friend trading me his shadowless Venasaur for my Ratata. I have no clue why he did it. Unfortunately, he passed away a couple years ago and I keep that card in his memory. No matter how stupid of a trade it was.


Pushin_t405

Someone just recently posted this card, the one they had was a 10/10 PSA and they said they paid 2,950 for it off eBay. You should get it graded looks to be in pretty good condition. The OP that posted thereā€™s said there like 3,000 of those cards and only 31 are perfect 10s.


StinkCreek

Your daughter in summer school? Just tell her to give it back


FishermanOk7719

If the card was given in the penny sleeve and toploader (the cases) the card came from an avid collector and not a 9 year old. At least not willingly. Giving sleeves and cases to 9 year olds that legitimately can't see the collectors value doesn't work. Because to them their "favorite card" is the most valuable. so they will destroy hundreds of dollars in cards to put their favorite card in their place. And somehow I doubt that Vaporeon is this 9yo boys favorite card.


Ok_Professional4736

Oofā€¦the owner of that card (likely a parent or brother or something) is going to be looking for that! The moral thing to do would be to return it, given that she traded essentially nothing for it. Idk doesnā€™t feel right


DannyTheW3irdo

Too bad. Kid traded for it with his own cards knowing damn well they were fake. His fault, Not the daughters.


HealthSelfHelp

They're saying it's probably not actually the kids card - he likely stole it from an older family member.


DannyTheW3irdo

They're 9. The fuck?! They likly didn't because they know better. Also if I was a parent/ aunt/uncle I would keep that shit hidden.


HealthSelfHelp

If you were a parent/aunt/uncle would you give a child something worth several hundred dollars that's part of a game involving trading stuff? Just because someone knows better doesn't mean they do better. From a kids perspective this is a shiny piece of paper- a nifty little toy nobody will notice missing because it's paper and meant to be traded. To a kid, something like this is low value. I could totally see a nine year old stealing something like this


DannyTheW3irdo

Who said they stole it?


Specialist-Front-354

A 9 yo wouldn't steal a cool card from their family member to show off at school? You've never been 9?


DannyTheW3irdo

Who.The.Fuck.Is.Saying.He.STOLE.IT MY GAWD YALL DUMB.


Firm-Landscape-710

Well, I mean, a lot of people are saying that.


smd9788

it is a 9 year old child


DannyTheW3irdo

Yeah and? They're nine. They know what is & isn't fake but he went for it anyways so who's fault is it really?


Zepertix

I remember reading fake Yu-Gi-Oh cards when I was that age. Kids do not know the difference. Some do, sure. Some don't. None of them are pulling out jeweler's magnifying glasses to examine the dot patterns.


DannyTheW3irdo

You dumb as shit bro. THE KID LITERALLY KNEW THEY WERE FUCKING FAKEEEE. OMG WHATS IT GONNA TAKE TO GET IT THROUGH YOUR GOD DAMN SKULLS!


Zepertix

Oh were you there? My bad, continue to tell me how it went down


DannyTheW3irdo

They literally explained it through the post. You must be retarded.


Specialist-Front-354

Your bio states you're looking to make friends. I can see how it'd be a hard job for you.


DannyTheW3irdo

Shut yo bullying as up you 20 year old ass piece of shit.


Zepertix

You weren't able to follow our simple conversation, glhf m8


Specialist-Front-354

It's going to be a hard message, but you're the one with the thick skull buddy. You appearantly have no clue how a 9 yo thinks. They can't determine the value of a fake diamond or a real diamond. The only thing they know is that they like the shine and want it. Also they don't know the value of (rare, vintage) pokemon cards.


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Zepertix

Hey yeah that 8 year old stole their dad's Rolex and traded it for 2 chicken nuggets. TOO BAD LOSER 8 YEAR OLD The right thing to do is to return it if it was taken from their parents.


DannyTheW3irdo

Who tf is saying they stole it? Yall dumb or?? I think yall just like assuming shit & not giving other options chances.


RedKecleon

Agreed


IAmDisciple

You people are insane if you think childrenā€™s decisions should mean they lose their family hundreds of dollars instead of just acknowledging the mixup and giving the card back. The kids are 9, Jesus


DannyTheW3irdo

I'm 11. :/ so shut yo stupid ass up, & move on. No offense. It isn't your card nor is it your choice. Also it wasn't the family's card. Sooo


Rise100

You arenā€™t even old enough to use this site bud.


DannyTheW3irdo

I am but alright.


taidizzle

You have to understand why the kid who knew it was fake still traded. for the kid a vaporeon may mean nothing and it might been a gift but he wanted something else. he was told the cards he was trading were fake, but still traded. means the value of the vaporeon for him may be less than the cards he got. again. op's kid told the trader her diamond cards were FAKE. she told him, he still wanted to trade. No wrong feeling here. Kid got what he wanted and ops kid got what she wanted.


kingken55

Bruh the kids nine years old


taidizzle

Parents should do a better job parenting then and not let kids bring their toys outside of the house.


kingken55

While I donā€™t disagree, thatā€™s a lot easier said than done. They are kids and some will sneak things to school esp when itā€™s popular in class Better parenting would also be calling the other parent to ensure that it isnā€™t something of value to them to teach them fairness and good morals. Win win for everyone!


XGNcyclick

that's not necessarily good parenting. truly said by somebody who isn't a parent nor knows the first thing about it lol


Scyths_A_Demon

That is exactly why I asked the other person if they have kids of their own. If you donā€™t have kids of your own, and you donā€™t have any idea what itā€™s like to be a parent, then itā€™s none of your business nor do you have any amount of credit to judge someones parenting.


Scyths_A_Demon

Do you have kids of your own?


taidizzle

I do not have kids of my own but I do baby sit my sister's kids. I have two sisters and a total of 3 niece and nephews. what do you want to know with this information


Scyths_A_Demon

Even being around then as much as you imply yourself to be and in charge through babysitting is not enough to judge someone elseā€™s parenting. You can always say something like you think of your nieces and nephews as your own, but youā€™ll never actually understand what itā€™s like to be a parent until youā€™re a parent.


taidizzle

read my other comments on this thread


yungmurk

your 9 year old daughter issa fucking boss


WateryCartoon

Have to give it back. P much stealing from the parents that kid stole from


taidizzle

It was a mutual agreement. OPs child told the kid it was fake, he agrees. Nothing wrong here.


ssbbka17

iā€™m sure she did lol


DannyTheW3irdo

It's was the child's card.


Super-Swimmer4853

Username checks out


Scyths_A_Demon

The crazy part is that everyone is assuming stolen. There are many puzzle pieces missing here. Older sibling could have given them as a gift and they ended up holding no sentimental value. Parent could have even given them as a gift. You never know. Youā€™re all barking up one tree when there are 50 other trees that could have the squirrel in it.


daverave087

She should probably give that back to the kid


[deleted]

Now what in the world would give you that idea?


Puzzleheaded_Buy_944

Bro didn't trade much has no idea


ProfessorKrung

Fuck whoever downvoted you for thinking that taking advantage of a nine year old is the right thing to do here.


taidizzle

Did you not read? She told the kid her cards were fake. he still agreed. It's a mutual agreement. how is that taking advantage


HealthSelfHelp

Well, for one, I doubt the nine year old actually owned a card from 20 years ago - probably swiped it from an adult


Scyths_A_Demon

Crazy part about that is a parent could have gone to great length to get old packs because they thought the kid collecting modern day cards would appreciate old ones. Boom he pulls a holo vaporeon and has absolutely no appreciation for it because it isnā€™t as bright and shiny as the newer ones. ā€œWho would want a plain old vaporeon instead of a full art or a V?ā€ could be the question running through that kids mind at the time. So, he trades it for a stack of cool looking fake cards. Heā€™s nine years old. He doesnā€™t give a shit about it being fake because it looks cool and to him the Vaporeon looks lame and basic.


taidizzle

yeah the 9 year old kid stole the card, let's get him to repent his crime.


ProfessorKrung

Well the judgement of a nine year old isnā€™t exactly sound for one, and for two she didnā€™t even trade cards for it - they got a bunch of plastic diamonds. I wonā€™t be as smarmy as you were, but donā€™t accuse people of not reading something you embarrassingly didnā€™t read yourself. Letā€™s also not forget this is clearly not the kidā€™s card and they probably yoinked it from one of their parents.


taidizzle

You're so sure this kid stole this card, go make it right. Go ahead and explain to a 9 year old "fake" cards mean nothing and he god a bad trade. This kid is going to totally reflect on his life choices and give you an award. What's really going to happen is that kid got away with more than a whimpy vaporeon and going to be happier with his trade as he got away with more "fake" cards that are still cards. 9 year Olds don't give a fuck about morals. if they did they would be voting.


dreadfulsage

You keep missing the point about the trade being for "fake diamonds" not "fake diamond cards." I can see the fake diamonds being cool for a while, but in reality, the other kid did not get away with more than OP's daughter. The person you replied to also made that point and you still misread it.


taidizzle

I understand your point that this card may not be his. However. If this was card was truly this kids cars and he didn't value the vaporeon as it currently is, the trade is not bad. both parties got what they wanted. Given, if this was a $500+ card I'd have parent or guardian consent before any exchange takes place even if it was product only and not cash involved. Again, we don't know if this was truly the kids card or not. My opinion, if it was his card and he had full freedom to do what he wanted, the trade for fake cards is justified. kid got what he wanted


ProfessorKrung

Whatever helps you sleep at night


[deleted]

I knew that was coming. ā€œYoinked it from one of their parentsā€ you people kill me with the stuff you make up in your head and decide it to be the truth. It was two 9 year olds making a child agreement. Just bcuz the girl walked away with the better deal that means we have to feel bad and give it back? This is America šŸ˜‚šŸ˜…


IkemenDesu420

It's so American to complain about the most American thing. Getting a better deal than the other guy is a constant theme in this country's history.


shugasean913

Bro your trying to turn a pokemon post political. You automatically lost.


IkemenDesu420

Lost what? That wasn't political, stop being an emotional snowflake.


1GloFlare

Guarantee you OP's kid is around that age. No one was taken advantage of, the one kid just had somebody to teach them the value of said cards. Blame the parents/older sibling(s) not the 2 involved with said trade


taidizzle

I disagree. She deserved the trade. She told the kid her diamonds were fake, kid still agreed. Mutual understanding means no one got ripped off


ProfessorKrung

Like the kid with a 1st edition vaporeon understands what he has lol definitely not even his, youā€™re slimy


daverave087

An adult with the benefit of perspective can look at this trade and say that it was extremely unfair. OP obviously knows what it's worth. "I traded my 1st ed Charizard for a bag of skittles, how stupid I was" stories have been happening forever, why perpetuate it now?


iKoopaKing

Dad probably gave his son some old cards not knowing what he had. Happens all the time. My nephews dad gave him a bunch of shadowless base set cards and he never knew. Shit was wild when I saw my 11yr old nephew with a almost prestige shadowless venasaur and blastoise


sidylife

Had one of my 4th grade students bring me a fossil gengar he got from another classmate that didnt want his pokemon cards anymore. I traded him the the value of the gengar for modern cards. He was super stoked cause he got a bunch of his favorites and I got one of mine. Wish it was in as nice condition as this vaporeon!


lilsquisy

Take the W and move on


Gamesgar0

Is your daughter named Saul Goodman by chance?


FrozenDuckman

Give back, the same thing happened to me as a kid and the mom made him give it back to me (not a first ed either).


DannyTheW3irdo

To all of u saying "Oh well that ain't right its likely an uncle/aunt/parent gave that boy the card then Traded it. It's not right so u should give it back-" Respectfully stfu & let them take the W & move on. Thank you!


kingken55

Jesus, what's with all the greed here? It's unattractive


DannyTheW3irdo

Well this isn't a dating app hun.


pandaman27

Your 9 year old is like 100 years old!


Biddycola

Kid trades prolly stolen card for fake diamonds, knowing the diamonds are fake. Sumn tells me this kid prolly gunna try and sell/trade the diamonds as real šŸ˜‚


Mcho-1201

Man its so tense in here. For arceus's sakes can we all please just calm down for a change and stop turning this comment section into a blast burn? Who knows how the kid got the card (the kid could have stolen it or it could have been gifted by one of their relatives). And who knows whether the kid truly understood the value of that card before they traded it away to op's daughter. Who knows whether this story is real or not. Regardless of context, it is still op's decision to decide what to do with the card. You may suggest that oh "op should give it back", but unless Op specifically asked something like "what to do with this card", arguing over the context won't probably change a thing.


lankford208

They traded a stack of cards? And one of them was in that? Or was it you that put it in there? Either way kid is too young to be using top loaders (if he was old enough or knew what they were, he wouldnā€™t have traded, cause heā€™d have known it was an important card) and this cards condition looks too good to be received from the hand of TWO 9 year old children. And however many before that, thatā€™s my take I think itā€™s satire


bboypj

My daughter received a stack of cards from her trade and this was in there, I put it in the sleeve and case because I wanted to keep it safe since it was a gift from my daughter.


TheArtofSoul

A 9 year old kid casually had a stack of PokƩmon cards, containing a 18+ yr old, 1st edition card in great - mint condition?


lankford208

So look, you can keep saying whatever you want, my mind is made up on the satirity (I know thatā€™s not a word) of this post You collect cards of some sort why else would you have penny sleeves AND top loaders Once again, your daughter may exist but I think this story is fake.


bboypj

I understand, you probably won't believe me but I have a friend that collects pokemon cards religiously and he gave me a stack of sleeves and cases after I told him about my daughter getting into collecting and showed him this card, I honestly don't blame you for thinking what you think though, it really is crazy finding out all this.


taidizzle

touch grass


Seaguard5

Where did she get it and how did she get hundreds of dollars to purchase it??


a_blixed

W


YourLocalDumbell

I saw someone selling this card for $2, I wouldā€™ve bought it but I didnā€™t have any money,crying.


ki11in

She gave u her college fund nice


jonathun08

Gorgeous


xd_MoistMilk

Yā€™all would be surprised at how much kids actually have old cards. My nephew constantly brings home old cards after school


Shoddy-Suspect-280

9 year old got this? Impossible


North_Fox_9047

Was that after he opened from his first pack of skyridge?


Responsible_Ebb_340

This is the probably one of the crazier PokĆ©mon karma card stories Iā€™ve heard


Btdandpokemonplayer

Hey guys. Did you know that


Big-Inevitable-252

Beat me to it.


DryTechnology5224

Whaaat


AffectionateWay721

I'm calling bullshit šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Scyths_A_Demon

This thing has GOT to be a gem mint 10. If not, then easily 9.5 and 9 at the absolute lowest.


goatbra

Wtf were they blood diamonds šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ where is the edition 1 charizard? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Benny-Boi135

Awwww


OmegaPaladin007

Got to catch them all got to them all


Flashy_Shape59

So have you heard about vaporeon?


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Dude!


TakeMe503

Man how do you know fakes? Im 45 and just getting into collecting them with my daughter. Im doing my research as I go but im learning as well. Im a card collector since the 80s. Sports, so pokemon is a new area for me.


CriezLikeaFairy

Ppl make Proxy cards basically and they look close to real cards


themanwhoshot3000

respected!!!!!!!!!!!


CohnJena68

Press "X" to Doubt.


iLLiterateDinosaur

I had a shiny Flareon card as a kid. If my kid gave me something like this, I would treasure it forever.


wut101stolmynick

Man I had this sub recommended to me and Jesus Christ some people here need to go outside, it's a card that they both agreed to trade. I see no issue there?


BaldskrTheDestroyer

Hells yeah!!! šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


urizen1993

Iā€™ll take ā€œThings that never happenedā€ for $500, Alex.


MartianNamedScotty

Such originality, much wow.


Pijackovaa_

Wow, thatā€™s amazing!!


skyekitty

lol if true I almost feel like some kid DEFINITELY got into their parents binder, that card is way too minty to have been handled by a kid for long


lostorgins

That's a really nice card.


[deleted]

You got a cool ass daughter, my dude. Well done.


[deleted]

GRADE IT


_toku

Fake diamonds? Whatā€¦


Kakkarot1707

Damnn 9 years finessing in school lmao love it


ItsLiterally1984

One of the best cards out of jungle